[VIDEOS] The legacy of Mohammad Asif

[yokoonodie]

Exactly how good was Mohammad Asif?

Since his ban Ab de villiers, Kevin Pieterson and now Alistar Cook has named Mohammad Asif as one of the toughest bowlers they have faced in their careers.

These guys are three of the most prolific batsmen of the modern era. Come to think of it, Mohammad Asif had no pace, just line and length and one of the sharpest cricketing brains i've ever witnessed.

James Anderson mentioned how Asif helped him out with the wobbly seam. Aamir mentioned how much Asif taught him and how Asif was twice the bowler he ever was. Most people believe he was the second coming of Mcgrath, I personally believed he was better.

He is probably the most talked about bowlers along with Steyn since the golden era of the 90s with Wasim Waqar Walsh Ambrose Mcgrath Pollock all played in the same decade. Asif, even though had a very short career is still mentioned in the international cricket circles.

There is no point in crying over what could have been and time to look at the future. Asif wasn't a finished product when he came to the international scene, Woolmer worked on him a lot and shaped him into the bowler he became.

Do you guys think that Asifs talent and acumen for the game should be utilised by letting him train bowlers in the NCA or new talented bowlers moving up in the ranks or is it too risky to let him interact with young players given his dodgy persona and bad boy lifestyle?

I personally believe he has done his time and as long as hes out of the lime light he should be given the opportunity to work with young bowlers and pass on his knowledge, his ability to set up batsmen was legendary and most of the bowlers coming through in Pakistan Cricket do not have much pace, learning some tricks from a master like Asif would help young bowlers leaps and bounds and can only be beneficial for Pakistan Cricket.

Discuss

 

[Arham_PakFan]

He was a brilliant,extremely talented bowler.He was a McGrath type bowler.

But his legacy will always be that of a controversy magnet and a fixer.

He should play domestics if he wants can give tips to the younger bowlers who bowl similarly to him.

 

[Abdullah]

Biggest waste of talent ever.

 

[Saj]

Unbelievable skills.

A thinking bowler.

A guy who had the ability to out think the best batsmen in the world.

Sadly, also someone who wasted many opportunities.

 

[muqarrab]

Exactly how good was Mohammad Asif?

Since his ban Ab de villiers, Kevin Pieterson and now Alistar Cook has named Mohammad Asif as one of the toughest bowlers they have faced in their careers.

These guys are three of the most prolific batsmen of the modern era. Come to think of it, Mohammad Asif had no pace, just line and length and one of the sharpest cricketing brains i've ever witnessed.

James Anderson mentioned how Asif helped him out with the wobbly seam. Aamir mentioned how much Asif taught him and how Asif was twice the bowler he ever was. Most people believe he was the second coming of Mcgrath, I personally believed he was better.

He is probably the most talked about bowlers along with Steyn since the golden era of the 90s with Wasim Waqar Walsh Ambrose Mcgrath Pollock all played in the same decade. Asif, even though had a very short career is still mentioned in the international cricket circles.

There is no point in crying over what could have been and time to look at the future. Asif wasn't a finished product when he came to the international scene, Woolmer worked on him a lot and shaped him into the bowler he became.

Do you guys think that Asifs talent and acumen for the game should be utilised by letting him train bowlers in the NCA or new talented bowlers moving up in the ranks or is it too risky to let him interact with young players given his dodgy persona and bad boy lifestyle?

I personally believe he has done his time and as long as hes out of the lime light he should be given the opportunity to work with young bowlers and pass on his knowledge, his ability to set up batsmen was legendary and most of the bowlers coming through in Pakistan Cricket do not have much pace, learning some tricks from a master like Asif would help young bowlers leaps and bounds and can only be beneficial for Pakistan Cricket.

Discuss

Asif was best fast bowler in the world when he was playing. I have not seen anyone make the ball do the same tricks as asif.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Best bowler in my lifetime.

Biggest lost in the history of cricket.

 

[shaz619]

A guy who could make the world's best look like absolute tailender's, all while having this charismatic superior complex about him; loved the bowler and Asif the character; which he had his head screwed on, ATG status would have been inevitable.

 

[yokoonodie]

Should he be training bowlers in the domestic circuit? You guys have been dodging this question

 

[yokoonodie]

A lot of people talk about swag on this forum (a word a hate to use when it comes to cricket) but Asif had an aura, a swag about him which bowlers much faster than him lacked.

 

[ahmedzee]

He was the best bowler at the time of his ban, better than Aamir, better than Styen, Anderson, McGrath even. The tricks he can do with the ball, I have never seen anyone do as such. UNBELIEVABLE TALENT! Pakistan won so many games because of him. I am sure if he was still playing, he would've won Pakistan many tournaments and series. Unfortunately, he will now only be remembered as a fixer.

 

[khiska]

Asif had the ability to make you sit and watch a test match as long as he bowled. I think I actually started watching test matches because of him and now unless we play in England, SA or Australia I am not too bothered

I wish he could just play in a test match, just once

 

[Klopp2005]

Watching him bowl was like a conductor, conducting an orchestra.

So much thought and planning went into setting a batsman up.

Looked so innocuous when he ran in but made the ball talk.

Also had one of the smoothest actions you will ever see.

No doubt the one of the greatest losses in world cricket but has nobody but himself to blame.

 

[Im Suds]

Up there with Wasim as the most skilled bowler we ve ever had.
When he wanted to he could slip himself and bowl quite fast~ and seam and swing it both ways at the same time.

Amazing bowler, talent on oneside
serial rogue on the other~ drugs, women, corruption
Sums up the very best and worst of our nation

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Just how much of a legacy can a player who only played 23 test matches and 38 odis have? A tragic waste of talent really.

 

[Buffet]

His legacy will pretty much remain about fixing. Not many cricketers have gone behind the bars for fixing and he didn't get chance to play cricket after coming out of jail so that will be the dominating memories for most fans.

A very good talent and what a waste!

 

[Billy1999]

He is like Abbas,Philander,Hazlewood type bowler

 

[mak36]

It pains me to think of what could have been... but he only has himself to blame.

 

[mak36]

He is like Abbas,Philander,Hazlewood type bowler

They are all similar type bowlers but Asif was in a league of his own.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Should he be training bowlers in the domestic circuit? You guys have been dodging this question

Definitely.He should only teach them about cricket though...

 

[PakPhenom]

Should he be training bowlers in the domestic circuit? You guys have been dodging this question

Definitely! And hopefully he will be telling the kids not to ruin themselves like him. How wonderful will it be for the kids to learn from a guy with such an aura and swag.

 

[Proactive_]

His legacy is that he chose a few thousand pounds of cash over a million pound worth of cricketing talent and skill. Hard to top that level of life judgement skills tbh.

 

[Markhor]

He could have been a part of a Test side reaching #1 in the world or a Champions Trophy winning team. He could have had 300-400 Test wickets.

Maybe he'd have been the difference between us drawing and beating England last year - or drawing instead of losing to New Zealand last winter.

Instead he has to make do with lines like "he was the toughest bowler I faced" from his opponents, no tangible legacy other than lamenting what could've been had it not been for corruption and drugs.

As skilful as he was with the ball to set up a batsman's demise, he was as skilful in setting up his own demise off the field. He could be a bowling coach, but he'll have to be watched like a hawk by the PCB.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Should he be training bowlers in the domestic circuit? You guys have been dodging this question

why is there anything to dodge? he should be training domestic bowlers or whomsoever he wishes. the punishment is served and some more.

He is like Abbas,Philander,Hazlewood type bowler

he is what all of them wish to be. it's not always just about stats, there was an aura to him. maybe philander has a case but purely being a bowler, asif was way ahead.

 

[Billy1999]

why is there anything to dodge? he should be training domestic bowlers or whomsoever he wishes. the punishment is served and some more.





he is what all of them wish to be. it's not always just about stats, there was an aura to him. maybe philander has a case but purely being a bowler, asif was way ahead.

Yeh I'm just putting the point out that he was a swing bowler that pitched it on a good length around about 82-83 Mph

 

[BDwarriors]

After wasim the best bowler pak has produced.

 

[Hasan123]

An absolutely brilliant bowler to watch. He only has himself to blame for not reaching atg status.

 

[kaifmazhar]

The biggest waste of talent since that SA bunch just before the apartheid era.

 

[Speedster777]

The best new ball bowler in the world.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Shoaib knocked Tendu's poles out and silenced a billion people. Asif went a step further made the man himself bow down to him.

 

[yokoonodie]

Shoaib knocked Tendu's poles out and silenced a billion people. Asif went a step further made the man himself bow down to him.

I watched this spell live, to be fair that ball kept pretty low, brilliant spell none the less

 

[TQ89]

Shoaib knocked Tendu's poles out and silenced a billion people. Asif went a step further made the man himself bow down to him.

I am a hardcore sachin fan. I bought his auto-biography last year. It was a disappointing read. The major reason being that it was too superficial and one thing i specifically noticed was that whenever he talked about Pak tours, he would always find something to complain about starting from his debut. I will get a lot of flak for this but the truth is the truth. He is not a god that his country has turned him out to be. Is he the best batsmen ever? Yes. The best in every other thing, a godlike figure? Nobody is especially not him. It hurt me to see that he has a poor attitude about us which has never been revealed due to his politeness. Check out the recent tweet congratulating hockey team after CT 2017 defeat. That reveals his mindset about us

He had dissected the 1989 and 2004 tours in great details which included talking about how ridiculous curfews were, how pitches were made to favor the Pak bowlers or batsmen. The whole of 1989 was spent talking about each match pitch and how they made green pitches to get the indians out. And then for one match they made flat pitch so miandad could get 100. In 2004 too after the multan victory, he talks about how we gave them a seaming wicket in lahore cause we were scared of whitewash.(This infuriated me the most especially when this criticism is coming from an indian whose own administration are masters at making home advantage pitches & whose team enjoyed ridiculous home advantage during the 1990's & onwards).

Funnily enough and in huge contrast to his early descriptions about Pak tours, he just skipped the whole 2006 test series in just few paragraphs and made no mention of his dismissals especially during the karachi test match. Infact the next paragraph was about their odi series win 2006. Greatest batsmen ever? Yes for sure. Greatest sportsman ever? My foot

 

[Hitman]

How can any person be so naive? Caught twice taking illegal substances, caught trying to smuggle drugs in another country, caught spot fixing. That's four extremely serious offences. And all of those in a career spanning just 5 years. Either he is the biggest idiot to have ever played international cricket or he deliberately wanted to leave a wrong legacy.

 

[A.A.Z]

How can any person be so naive? Caught twice taking illegal substances, caught trying to smuggle drugs in another country, caught spot fixing. That's four extremely serious offences. And all of those in a career spanning just 5 years. Either he is the biggest idiot to have ever played international cricket or he deliberately wanted to leave a wrong legacy.

These aren't even his biggest scandals, well apart from the spot-fixing. Veena Malik had already torn his public image to shreds before the spot-fixing scandal. No one even talks about his fight with Shoaib Akhtar who beat him with a bat. But this is what Asif was, it is hard to understand but genius is hard to comprehend.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

How can any person be so naive? Caught twice taking illegal substances, caught trying to smuggle drugs in another country, caught spot fixing. That's four extremely serious offences. And all of those in a career spanning just 5 years. Either he is the biggest idiot to have ever played international cricket or he deliberately wanted to leave a wrong legacy.

Exactly. Plus the fight with Shoaib Akhtar. His disciplinary issues were the end of what could have been a career of perhaps one of the GOAT

 

[Hitman]

Exactly. Plus the fight with Shoaib Akhtar. His disciplinary issues were the end of what could have been a career of perhaps one of the GOAT

I won't blame him for that fight since Akhtar has always been known for causing trouble. Now since we don't know what exactly transpired between the two, any conclusion would be inconclusive. But for a person to commit 4 career ending offences that too in a span of 5 years is just beyond belief. Add to that like the poster above me reminded us of how his ex girlfriend Veena Malik previously revealed of Asif having connection with the bookies, we all laughed it off previously as some publicity stunt. Now it won't be far fetched to assume that she was true in what she said.

If only we produced a bowler with such talent/skills, he would have achieved the stars.

 

[LordJames]

Asif is better than Wasim in terms of teaching the youngsters and knowing the art of fast bowling.

Wasim was a genious but I am not sold on him being a fast bowling Coach.

You just have to hear Asif speak about bowling and it becomes clear that he knows the art and importantly can teach the art.

Pakistan will be wasting Asif if they don't get him to coach and teach Youngsters. If yoy are so worried about his negative vibe, gey ISI to tail him 24/7 BUT it will be a huge loss to just let him go his way.

Pakistani fans like showman like Akhtar but Asif knows the art and can teach the art, trust me.

 

[iniqbal223]

To date he is much much better swing fast bowler than others; I would definitely have him in my plans for 2019 WC. Instead of having an army of left arm bowlers; why not add him to our arsenal.

My fast bowlers for 2019 wc would be:
Asif
Hasan Ali
Amir
Junaid

People can say that he has done that and that; I still think he has suffered for that and should be given an opportunity. He can be devastating in England. In today's cricket all you need is one good spell of 2/3 important player wickets to demolish the opposition. And Asif is the master of taking prime wickets.

Good thing is, we have England tour in 2018 , and this could be revival of Asif, like that of Amir. We can also see what he has to offer now. But considering his fearless attitude it wont take him much time to get back into rhythm...

 

[Waqar89]

Is it a proven fact that good bowlers only make great bowling coach.....I mean teams have been coached by Waqar Wasim and likes but the bowling unit under Azhar has been one of the most disciplined and good unit with limited experience. Being great at an art is one thing having the ability to teach/transfer that is another thing.

 

[yokoonodie]

No point in having him in the plans for the 2019 WC, even if you ignore his shady past he was never a great odi bowler, with the kind of bats and hitting ability batsmen possess these days Asif will be murdered in limited overs cricket.

 

[yokoonodie]

He can teach our bowlers a thing or two about setting up batsmen, should definitely be included in the system under supervision

 

[yokoonodie]

Waqar was a very very good bowling coach, however should never have been given captaincy or the head coach position, like shoaib, he was never a leader of the pack, just one of the wolves you can unleash on the opposition, never possessed a shrewd mind like wasim imran salim malik or miandad , terrible tactician with a superiority complex, head coaches need to be flexible in every sport

 

[iniqbal223]

World has also seen the down of batting techniques, big guys such as Kohli , Root, Warner, etc. murder 1 dimensional kind of bowlers who rely on pace alone, but struggle against quality spin and swing bowling. These gys are good stroke makers and does not have good defensive techniques of Dravid/Sanga/Sachin,etc. That guy Kohli struggled 5 times out of 9 balls he faced in CT final only because of quality swing bowling from amir. Had it been another trundler or skiddy/pacy bowler he would have dominated.

Our bowling will become lethal with Asif/Amir/Junaid and Hasan. And Asif was same everytime he made a comeback in the past from his bans..Even though this time can be tough but we can see, how he performs.

 

[yokoonodie]

Not only Pakistani fans, my Australian friends have mentioned Asifs ability several times, Kp, Abd and Cook have mentioned him. I personally dont think he should be back in the team, but no need to get upset if people talk about a fallen gem and his ability if it wasn't for his sucidal career he would've been the greatest pakistani test bowler, the more you talk about him the more kids know how not to ruin your career, talent is not enough

 

[idrizzy]

I am a hardcore sachin fan. I bought his auto-biography last year. It was a disappointing read. The major reason being that it was too superficial and one thing i specifically noticed was that whenever he talked about Pak tours, he would always find something to complain about starting from his debut. I will get a lot of flak for this but the truth is the truth. He is not a god that his country has turned him out to be. Is he the best batsmen ever? Yes. The best in every other thing, a godlike figure? Nobody is especially not him. It hurt me to see that he has a poor attitude about us which has never been revealed due to his politeness. Check out the recent tweet congratulating hockey team after CT 2017 defeat. That reveals his mindset about us

He had dissected the 1989 and 2004 tours in great details which included talking about how ridiculous curfews were, how pitches were made to favor the Pak bowlers or batsmen. The whole of 1989 was spent talking about each match pitch and how they made green pitches to get the indians out. And then for one match they made flat pitch so miandad could get 100. In 2004 too after the multan victory, he talks about how we gave them a seaming wicket in lahore cause we were scared of whitewash.(This infuriated me the most especially when this criticism is coming from an indian whose own administration are masters at making home advantage pitches & whose team enjoyed ridiculous home advantage during the 1990's & onwards).

Funnily enough and in huge contrast to his early descriptions about Pak tours, he just skipped the whole 2006 test series in just few paragraphs and made no mention of his dismissals especially during the karachi test match. Infact the next paragraph was about their odi series win 2006. Greatest batsmen ever? Yes for sure. Greatest sportsman ever? My foot

Great read. Highlighted this part as many Indians would unequivocally say Tendulkar is their greatest sportsman ever, but he lacks sportsmanship. I guess being a 'little' guy means you can blend in within the crowd, but to me it's just poor attitude.

Think Kohli is learning from this. In his earlier stages he was very proud, and self-centred. Seems to have toned down and respects other teams to an extent. Still not totally convinced about his sportsmanship though.

 

[Abdullah719]

I am a hardcore sachin fan. I bought his auto-biography last year. It was a disappointing read. The major reason being that it was too superficial and one thing i specifically noticed was that whenever he talked about Pak tours, he would always find something to complain about starting from his debut. I will get a lot of flak for this but the truth is the truth. He is not a god that his country has turned him out to be. Is he the best batsmen ever? Yes. The best in every other thing, a godlike figure? Nobody is especially not him. It hurt me to see that he has a poor attitude about us which has never been revealed due to his politeness. Check out the recent tweet congratulating hockey team after CT 2017 defeat. That reveals his mindset about us

He had dissected the 1989 and 2004 tours in great details which included talking about how ridiculous curfews were, how pitches were made to favor the Pak bowlers or batsmen. The whole of 1989 was spent talking about each match pitch and how they made green pitches to get the indians out. And then for one match they made flat pitch so miandad could get 100. In 2004 too after the multan victory, he talks about how we gave them a seaming wicket in lahore cause we were scared of whitewash.(This infuriated me the most especially when this criticism is coming from an indian whose own administration are masters at making home advantage pitches & whose team enjoyed ridiculous home advantage during the 1990's & onwards).

Funnily enough and in huge contrast to his early descriptions about Pak tours, he just skipped the whole 2006 test series in just few paragraphs and made no mention of his dismissals especially during the karachi test match. Infact the next paragraph was about their odi series win 2006. Greatest batsmen ever? Yes for sure. Greatest sportsman ever? My foot

Have always had a similar impression of Sachin. Don't want to go into too much detail on this as it's not really relevant to the thread but this is one of the reasons why I feel a lot of people respect Tendulkar the batsman for all his achievements but find it hard to admire him, or even like him.

 

[iniqbal223]

In India, cricketers are robots; they are given instructions from media house and big investors in IPL such as Ambanis/SRKs etc.

Do you want to know how Indian cricket works , let me tell you that, and you will get all the answers to how BCCI behaves the way it does..

1> On from 1950s after the independence and partition and all that drama, India was poor economy, may be poorer than current day Afganistan. Their PM Nehru and his cronies, started stealing money from Indian public in the name of development. the trend was started, which later continued by his daughter and grand children. But they cant keep the money in India; so they had to transfer all that money into Swiss bank accounts (in form of black money-- unaccounted money). In every generation, their cronies are the people who have now become idols of Indian society, such as Amitabh Bachan, Vijay Mallya, Sharad Pawar, Ambanis, many bollywood stars.

Conclusion : Big influential people have billions of dollars stashed in Swiss Banks.

2> But the problem is they can not invest this big money in any other country, rules are simple, this unaccounted money can be taxed heavily even if they invest in countries outside Asia. an there could be danger of confiscation too. Situation is real bad for these influential people; they have money which they can not use it. First, they started putting some portion of this big amount in Real Estate in countries such as Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom , Canada and to some extent United States.

conclusion : only small portion of black money can be invested outside India.

3> In the meantime, apart from Hockey, India continued to be roll out shambolic bollywood movies, which only people with no sense could watch and tolerate. In cricket also India was getting flogged , let alone other sports.

4> Turning point 1 : Somehow, yes somehow, India won the 1983 world cup. Cricket was the new sport in their days of gloom and corruption. Indian people found new heros in Kapil Dev, Gavaskar etc. Meanwhile, craze of Hockey waned. Cricketers were given new identity in India, players were given big monetary rewards, more honour. Bollywood sensed opportunity, if they want to get more public attention for their shoddy movies, they must adhere with the norm, and invest in cricket.

5> Turning point 2 : While many players were made and destroyed; Indian cricket was still struggling from financial vegetation. Nothing big and nothing new happening. Team India is also losing wherever they were going. But bigger than this, India suffered the biggest financial crisis of their history. That was year 1991, India, infested by corruption, unemployment, and many other societal problems did not have money to buy 2 weeks of oil to fulfil its energy needs. Yes , 2 weeks of oil. In the same time, politicos, big industrialists like Ambanis, and other influential people keep pumping money out of the Indian financial system for their gains.
India, had no choice but to bail out from World bank, to open its domestic market for foreign companies.

6> Enter big companies like Coke, Pepsi, Sony, Walmart, Hyundai,etc. etc...
They have the products and they sensed India has big population or customer base; but how to sell their products. Cricket was high on popularity in India, so chose them as the medium.
Suddenly, cricket was promoted like their was no tomorrow. Their media got involved to promote their cricket because they get funding/TRPs or whatever to just spread the good words about their idols.

But that was not bad. Praising their players is good. Foreign MNC's had marketing budget; at the same time they did not want to overspend on just marketing. On the cricketing field, India was playing okayish cricket, nothing bad was happening, people have the new heros in Sachin,Dravid, Ganguly,etc.

7> Match Fixing : India was playing okayishly, but nothing stellar for even big MNC's to invest heavily on marketing budget. But their cricket took the rock bottom because of match fixing scandal in 2000/2001. Cricket popularity was at its lowest. Players were seen as suspicious. Indian people interests swung back to watching those rustic bollyshit movies.
Things moved at snail pace, when Indian cricket achieved a historic victory in Kolkata test in 2002. Cricket was popular...

8> Big companies chased popularity to promote their products. But yet again this was not big enough. BCCI although in comparison to other boards got bigger, but was not that big enough.

9> ICL, WT20 -- 2007 and the birth of IPL : India crashed out in 2007 50/50 world cup. Public sentiment that India lacks talent, and people like Sachin, Ganguly, etc. should be booted out from the team. One business man, Subhash Chandra, took heed, created his own private cricket league, ICL. That was an instant hit, people followed it, as it was modelled on T20 cricket, yet again Bollywood attached itself in cricket to promote their ****** films.

Somewhere, in BCCI people were stunned, among many industrialists, people were confused how come this guy arranged so much funds to operates his own league. Later, to their joy, they got to know he somehow pumped back his black money back in India. Thus, the idea of IPL was born. Meanwhile, somewhere in South Africa, India won the T20 world cup. Cricket has yet again become wild fantasy of Indians. India got their new cricket heros.

For funding, IPL investors in coordination with Indian government, started bringing back their own black money to India. Now the big surprise. The first IPL auction..

Suddenly the player, who was earning 10 lakh per year was handed 10 crore contract. Why? Investors had surplus money, but to make IPL a long lived success they cant just give peanut salaries to cricketers. Cricketers were made God, Heros, Legends,etc.

So the IPL which was seen as a platform for promoting cricket is in fact a machinery which converts black money into white.

10> With this moolah.. BCCI became more powerful and arrogant.

11> Still India on cricket was not delivering results. India knocked out of 2009 T20, 2009 CT, 2010 T20. Now questions were raised, players are not committed to national duty. Yet again , players popularity was down.
India was made to win 2011 WC, yes 2011 WC final... Nobody could believe SL played few of their second string players. Nobody knows what happened behind the doors.

12> Foolish Indian public, found Gods again..This triggered indirect investment in cricket. Likes of Amitabh Bachan, Sharad Powar, etc. invested money in Indian cricket. But to evade taxes, they partnered withn IPL franchises as blanket franchise. So for example, if Vivo has bought IPL rights for 5 years at 2000 crores, then Vivo's own money is may be 500 crores, while likes of Black money stashers invested the rest of 1500 crores, and on paper it quotes vivo has bought the IPL rights. BCCI became the puppet...

Now, when you have invested $, and someone questions your product/investment; then I will be very angry. Example, Harsha Bhogle criticised Indian team performance in WC T20 vs NZ; and was sacked next day because Amitabh Bachan did not like the comment Bhogle had made.

Feared from this backlash, nowadays, or even during their CT 2017, Indian/Foreign commentators were praising Indian cricket, and demeaning others. Because they fear their jobs, their *****, etc...

 

[Lefthanded]

Easily the most unfulfilled and wasted talents along with Shoaib since the 90s.

Both could've been staggering greats, and Asif even greater than Shoaib.

Still hurts to think of what could've been and their self-destructive streaks.

Yet another Pakistani cricketer who underachieved or wasted unmatched talent.

 

[PakLFC]

Just imagine how brilliant our attack would have been if we had him today. Asif, Amir, Junaid and Hasan followed by Shadab and Yasir as spinners would give any batting line up plenty to worry about. His career is over now for sure as is Butt's. They only have themselves to blame.

 

[MenInG]

37 years old today!

What could it have been if 2010 hadnt happened?

 

[King_Kohli]

One of my fav bowler.

 

[King_Kohli]

37 years old today!

What could it have been if 2010 hadnt happened?

ATG bowler

 

[Mean&Green]

Gujjra dokha de gaya sanu or else it would have been a different story today

 

[Mueez]

A magician with the ball.

 

[Hitman]

1. Gets caught using nandrolone in 2006.
2. Gets caught using nandrolone again in 2007.
3. Gets caught with cannabis in Dubai airport just a couple of months later.
4. Gets involved in spot fixing in 2010.

All of the above in a span of about 4 years. He will be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Kroll]

The tragedy of Mohammad Asif would be more apt.

 

[Savak]

Jonathan Trott had figured Asif out. Other international batsmen would have taken note and followed suite

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

1. Gets caught using nandrolone in 2006.
2. Gets caught using nandrolone again in 2007.
3. Gets caught with cannabis in Dubai airport just a couple of months later.
4. Gets involved in spot fixing in 2010.

All of the above in a span of about 4 years. He will be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

A maverick.

 

[Saj]

He's in USA doing some coaching over there and playing a bit of cricket out there.

 

[Slog]

He's in USA doing some coaching over there and playing a bit of cricket out there.

Is this true?

Both Nauman Niaz and Shoaib akhtar said he is not doing well and has let his life go off the rails.

 

[Manunited18]

One of the biggest waste of talents in world cricket and all down to his personal gain and greed, good riddance I say

 

[khiska]

He's in USA doing some coaching over there and playing a bit of cricket out there.

Saj any idea if he is planning to play domestic again, if he even wants to make a come back?

 

[Saj]

Is this true?

Both Nauman Niaz and Shoaib akhtar said he is not doing well and has let his life go off the rails.

According to his very good friend he is in USA playing some league cricket out there. He didn't mention any issues regarding him.

I've spoken with his friend again and he said Asif has warned Shoaib Akhtar to stop talking rubbish about him.

 

[Saj]

Saj any idea if he is planning to play domestic again, if he even wants to make a come back?

I think he's done regarding QeA Trophy etc. He wasn't even picked for the 2nd XI teams this time around.

At best he'll play in a few leagues around the world. I know he usually plays in Norway.

 

[Slog]

According to his very good friend he is in USA. He didn't mention any issues regarding him.

Hmm don’t know.

Shoaib said he went to meet him to check up and he’s lost it and unless his wife doesn’t keep him in check you’ll hear something messed up on news.

And then Nauman niaz had also said that he’s not doing well and must be because he’s depressed.

It is interesting though. He’s totally disappeared from the scene. Domestic season he had zero involvment

Also had bad car accident a year ago

 

[Saj]

Hmm don’t know.

Shoaib said he went to meet him to check up and he’s lost it and unless his wife doesn’t keep him in check you’ll hear something messed up on news.

And then Nauman niaz had also said that he’s not doing well and must be because he’s depressed.

It is interesting though. He’s totally disappeared from the scene. Domestic season he had zero involvment

Also had bad car accident a year ago

He wasn't picked in the QeA Trophy so has been abroad coaching and playing. Currently he's in USA.

As mentioned above, what Akhtar has been saying about Asif has got back to him and he has sent a warning to Akhtar to shut his trap.

 

[HasanA]

Hmm don’t know.

Shoaib said he went to meet him to check up and he’s lost it and unless his wife doesn’t keep him in check you’ll hear something messed up on news.

And then Nauman niaz had also said that he’s not doing well and must be because he’s depressed.

It is interesting though. He’s totally disappeared from the scene. Domestic season he had zero involvment

Also had bad car accident a year ago

You believe Shoaib actor ?

 

[HasanA]

Jonathan Trott had figured Asif out. Other international batsmen would have taken note and followed suite

You figure batsmen out. You never figure bowlers out.

 

[Ahmed4472]

Muhammad Asif was here in Los Angeles not too long ago and played in a few minor leagues.

 

[Ahmed4472]

You figure batsmen out. You never figure bowlers out.

Haha very interesting and deep point

 

[Saj]

Muhammad Asif was here in Los Angeles not too long ago and played in a few minor leagues.

Yes he's been playing around various states in USA in the past few weeks and has been doing some coaching too.

 

[Ahmed4472]

Mohammad Asif in Los Angeles

 

[Waleed93]

His loss was a bigger one than Amir's loss for Pakistan.

 

[Saj]

Mohammad Asif in Los Angeles

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So much for Akhtar's "Asif is depressed in Pakistan" story on tv.

As I wrote, Akhtar needs to be careful what he's saying about people.

 

[jeetu]

Asif had to potential to have career at par with big 3 (Imran , Wasim , Waqar). Sadly he was his own worst enemy. A great loss to World cricket.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I am a hardcore sachin fan. I bought his auto-biography last year. It was a disappointing read. The major reason being that it was too superficial and one thing i specifically noticed was that whenever he talked about Pak tours, he would always find something to complain about starting from his debut. I will get a lot of flak for this but the truth is the truth. He is not a god that his country has turned him out to be. Is he the best batsmen ever? Yes. The best in every other thing, a godlike figure? Nobody is especially not him. It hurt me to see that he has a poor attitude about us which has never been revealed due to his politeness. Check out the recent tweet congratulating hockey team after CT 2017 defeat. That reveals his mindset about us

He had dissected the 1989 and 2004 tours in great details which included talking about how ridiculous curfews were, how pitches were made to favor the Pak bowlers or batsmen. The whole of 1989 was spent talking about each match pitch and how they made green pitches to get the indians out. And then for one match they made flat pitch so miandad could get 100. In 2004 too after the multan victory, he talks about how we gave them a seaming wicket in lahore cause we were scared of whitewash.(This infuriated me the most especially when this criticism is coming from an indian whose own administration are masters at making home advantage pitches & whose team enjoyed ridiculous home advantage during the 1990's & onwards).

Funnily enough and in huge contrast to his early descriptions about Pak tours, he just skipped the whole 2006 test series in just few paragraphs and made no mention of his dismissals especially during the karachi test match. Infact the next paragraph was about their odi series win 2006. Greatest batsmen ever? Yes for sure. Greatest sportsman ever? My foot

Jonathan Trott had figured Asif out. Other international batsmen would have taken note and followed suite

Asif required helpful conditions anyway. A but like philander in that respect. He would have needed an extra yard of pace for flat batting tracks which I felt was lacking.

 

[trickyone]

So much for Akhtar's "Asif is depressed in Pakistan" story on tv.

As I wrote, Akhtar needs to be careful what he's saying about people.

Asif is the only person who can take Akhter down... Time for him to get on Youtube, tell some of his past stories how he slap the Bob Woolmer and fighting with players all the time.

 

[Saj]

Asif is the only person who can take Akhter down... Time for him to get on Youtube, tell some of his past stories how he slap the Bob Woolmer and fighting with players all the time.

He mentioned to me earlier this year that one day he will do an autobiography which will reveal plenty including what he says actually happened regarding the spot-fixing matter.

 

[Savak]

So much for Akhtar's "Asif is depressed in Pakistan" story on tv.

As I wrote, Akhtar needs to be careful what he's saying about people.

Haven't a few people on here confirmed that Asif is addicted to beer, whiskey and weed? Not hard to imagine such a person will not be living life seriously

 

[Savak]

He mentioned to me earlier this year that one day he will do an autobiography which will reveal plenty including what he says actually happened regarding the spot-fixing matter.

Asif has zero credibility himself, his rapsheet explains everything. He had the last ten years to explain the spot fixing scandal but he didn't

 

[HasanA]

Haven't a few people on here confirmed that Asif is addicted to beer, whiskey and weed? Not hard to imagine such a person will not be living life seriously

you mean like most NBA, NFL players in US?