Hasan123
Test Star
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2016
- Runs
- 38,432
His numbers in World Cup knockout games have not been good enough. He still has the 2023 WC to correct his numbers.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
![]()
![]()
Professor the GOAT
![]()
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Virat Kohli in Champions Trophy & World Cup knockout matches versus Aus, Eng, NZ, Pakistan, S Africa and West Indies:<br><br>Innings 6<br>Runs 83<br>Average 13.83<br>Strike-rate 71.55<br>Fifties 0<br>Hundreds 0<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1148932949645123584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Virat Kohli in Champions Trophy & World Cup knockout matches versus Aus, Eng, NZ, Pakistan, S Africa and West Indies:<br><br>Innings 6<br>Runs 83<br>Average 13.83<br>Strike-rate 71.55<br>Fifties 0<br>Hundreds 0<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1148932949645123584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Why include South Africa and West Indies? South Africa is a terrible team in WC and West Indies is a minnow. Cherry picking at it's finest.
Why include South Africa and West Indies? South Africa is a terrible team in WC and West Indies is a minnow. Cherry picking at it's finest.
It says knockout matches. If they played India in that stage it should be counted
Also the point is not about skill of opposition. Kohli can score against bowler of any skill. The point here is the pressure
Oh ok I just noticedWhy leave out other teams? It's still a cherry picked stat. We all know Kohli is a choker in WC. But selecting random teams is nonsense.
So Kohli need to wait 4 more years to prove his worth in World Cups
And that will be his last World Cup
How so? Even Pakistan led by Imran Khan lost in the semi finals in the 1987 world cup despite being a really strong team. Kohli still has 1-2 world cups left to win it.
May not be GOAT, but he is still a ATG regardless of his performances in ICC events. If he does not perform in the WC, he may not finish as the GOAT.
Viv is the GOAT. There shouldnt be any debate tbh.
May not be GOAT, but he is still a ATG regardless of his performances in ICC events. If he does not perform in the WC, he may not finish as the GOAT.
I would put him firmly below Viv, Tendulkar, Ponting, ABD as of now.
Imran made 50 and took 3 wickets in that match
The stats are damning to be honest. He has maximum of 2 world cups left now. Even if he does well in them during knockouts, it will be 3 failures vs 2 successes.
Above ABD
To hell with a 60 avg when you **** the bed the only time it matters.....Sorry Kohli even as your fan I'd say your'e no GOAT, just another batsmen who failed to win us 2 trophies.
I would put him firmly below Viv, Tendulkar, Ponting, ABD as of now.
Kohli has been in poor form. Hence the uncharacteristic dismissals after scoring fifties.
Kohli has been in poor form. Hence the uncharacteristic dismissals after scoring fifties.
I would put him firmly below Viv, Tendulkar, Ponting, ABD as of now.
The ODI average has lost its shine. In next decade we might have at least 5 more batsmen averaging 50+.
Kohli cannot be classified as GOAT cricketer if he does not win his country a WC. Simple as that, he will be an Indian great and even amongst the ATG batsmen of the world, but not THE GOAT unless he wins a WC.
Fair enough, but Virat still has 1-2 world cups to redeem himself.
Imagine if they didn't perform in the group stages either when they were "less needed".Deserted us when they were most needed...
And what's the excuse for WC15 and CT17?
Yes and i don't see entering in the league of Viv, Ponting, Sachin
When is India's next bilateral series with Sri Lanka or West Indies? [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]
He always has poor form during WC. That's the defining characteristic of bottlers.
I would take Kohli over Ponting and ABD still.
Don't know whether he'll play for 8 more years. He already suffers from too much workload so 2023 WC will be last chance but at 34 whether his form holds is even a bigger question.
He will be 38 by the time next WC rolls around...
Based on what? I don't value bilateral that highly anymore. I used to in the past, you know me. I changed my mind after seeing Australia play in last 6 months, they went from minnow level to world beaters just before WC. It shows that the top teams still value WC much, much higher than bilaterals (that includes India as well).
Kohli himself skips tons of bilateral series now. That's why this WC was so crucial for him, and he failed. India is out of a WC yet again, and his legacy is tainted. Next WC is his last chance to set things straight.
Why should I give you excuses?
Are you telling me that pressure situations occur only during world cups? Kohli has rescued India from tough situations many times. It’s just that the World Cup is far more relevant than any of those. A bigger stage.
38 in 2 WC time not next
lol.
Have to ask Cycle Agarbatti.
It's not just the fact that he has failed in crunch situations, it's the fact that he has SURRENDERED whenever the pressure is on.
1(13)
1(6)
5(9)
3(8)
9(21)
read some of his scores in ICC ODI Knockouts. You expect your best players to ATLEAST put up a fight. This guy has failed to do so again and again and again.
Not an ATG by any means, sorry.
No he was in poor form even before the WC.
woops, it's what I meant. So basically he'll have 1 WC at the peak of his powers, let's see what he can do then.
Tendulkar in World Cup semi-finals
1996 - 65 v Sri Lanka
2003 - 83 v Kenya
2011 - 85 v Pakistan
#CWC19 #TeamIndia
Kohli might make more runs or centuries than sachin but sachin is better than kohli during pressure matches
But then Sachin record in final is worst of all players to ever play the game or something like that.
But then Sachin record in final is worst of all players to ever play the game or something like that.
Yeah but Kohli has nothing to show in any Kock out games. Sachin has good scores in Quarters and Semis atleast.
No excuses for kohli in KOs
It's just my opinion. If you rate them higher that's fine. I think it's only on PP that Kohli legacy is tainted. The rest of the world will still rate him highly regardless of him winning a WC or not.
The thing which is most alarming is Kohli getting out in single digits. He edged the ball in two consecutive balls in the CT final and now again he's out for 1 run.
Overall, a pretty bad world cup for Virat Kohli. He may never have a great world cup. Next time, he will be 34 and past his prime. I do not see him playing the 2017 edition.
You are right but i was trying to be more positive for Kohli because he is so fit. Lets see. But at the moment, things dont look good at all.
Kohli is twice the batsman Babar is but even Babar scored a 100 vs Kiwis in what was a virtual knock out. Babar also scored a good 45 vs India in CT final.
Ok duly noted, but whats your excuse for his match winning innings in ct 2013?It's not just the fact that he has failed in crunch situations, it's the fact that he has SURRENDERED whenever the pressure is on.
1(13)
1(6)
5(9)
3(8)
9(21)
read some of his scores in ICC ODI Knockouts. You expect your best players to ATLEAST put up a fight. This guy has failed to do so again and again and again.
Not an ATG by any means, sorry.
Ok duly noted, but whats your excuse for his match winning innings in ct 2013?
I know you are here to push your agenda, you said he"ll fail in England test series and he avgd 60,highest scorer in sa series as well, but instead of admitting that he proved u wrong you were applying meaningkess filters to downgrade his performances.
And yeah even though he may not be a GOAT but still he is 10 times the odi player dravid ever was and has won a world cup unlike rahul.
He will retire as the second best batsman from india behind sachin.
well said.... it is laughable to see some of these knee jerk OTT reactions ...... Kohli won India the champions trophy 2013(top scorer in both semi & final), played a vital 35 in the 2011 world cup final, a 96* in 2017 champions trophy semi.He won the first abroad bilateral series in SAF & AUS for India.All of a sudden he does not deserve to be even an ATG. Agreed he has been far below his normal self, yet this is too much
90% of India believes Kohli is a bottler in any knockouts/deciders (tests/odis) not just good enough to be called a match winner