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Virat Kohli - A bottler in ODI knockouts?

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Legendary stats and look at the strike rate of kohli tell you how much damage pressure can do :D

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It means nothing really, till yesterday some poster were saying that he has a poor record against Pak, and Kohli came back with a ton.

He's not done yet, i'm sure he will do well in future.
 
funny thing is failed against Bangladesh the pressure player :)) i think he need sri lank to score runs?
 
Of course. Let's totally ignore the part where 3 out of those 4 matches was when he was not even established as a player. But whatever makes you :)) after Kohli's century in the opening match. ;)


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Didn't Kohli do well in the World T20 2014?

Or are you considering 50-over games only?
 
ali2220 said:
Only one question bother me, why can't our bowlers bowl like this against India in WC?
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Why, somebody takes a 5-fer each time. Riaz, Sohail, Akram. It's the others who leak the pressure at the other end.
 
Varun said:
Didn't Kohli do well in the World T20 2014?

Or are you considering 50-over games only?
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oh now we will have world t20 to defend world cup failures haha fun cricket being compared with 50 over cricket to defend the legend well you have a point now whats next asia cup? champion trophy? sr lanka series :))
 
Bhai will get another chance against NZ let see if Kohli can now get another shot against Australia.
 
ali2220 said:
Only one question bother me, why can't our bowlers bowl like this against India in WC?
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simple answer is pressure our players get under more pressure and i will not defend them like the perosees doing here just because i am pakistani doesn't mean i have to defend everything pakistani
 
CT Final Top scoring is not considered or is it only the CWC ?

SL series/Asia Cup is not ICC
 
adit_sh said:
CT Final Top scoring is not considered or is it only the CWC ?

SL series/Asia Cup is not ICC
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this is about 50 over world cup knockout written clearly in title!

but if you feel good by throwing his 40 runs of CT here to defend him well that is your choice :)) but he is the sachin of this era. Players like Raina are miles ahead of them when it comes to scoring in pressure situations
 
Early days.


I thought he played a pretty good little inning in the 2011 world cup final. Very crucial partnership that with Gambhir.
 
Kohli has flopped chasing a simple wide ball and deserves criticism like any.

But he is as clutch as it gets. Let's see.

Important knocks in WC 2011 finals, CT finals.

WC T20 SF and Finals was a masterclass.
 
The important things is how well team is doing, who cares if the team win and the star player flops?
 
ali2220 said:
The important things is how well team is doing, who cares if the team win and the star player flops?
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This doesn't work in amla case even if his team wins he will be bashed by anti bhai birgade for rest of the like and people like [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] make those threads active and now here he is defending his kohli by adding t20 and ct into a world cup knockout :)) well i can't blame him if he can't see the difference
 
Cricket Baba said:
this is about 50 over world cup knockout written clearly in title!

but if you feel good by throwing his 40 runs of CT here to defend him well that is your choice :)) but he is the sachin of this era. Players like Raina are miles ahead of them when it comes to scoring in pressure situations
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ok agreed if its CWC only
 
Cricket Baba said:
This doesn't work in amla case even if his team wins he will be bashed by anti bhai birgade for rest of the like and people like [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] make those threads active and now here he is defending his kohli by adding t20 and ct into a world cup knockout :)) well i can't blame him if he can't see the difference
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:facepalm:

I said Kohli is generally clutch and gave examples.

He deserves criticism if he flops in knockouts.

Classic case of being sensitive.
 
If you can't see that Kohli has been a clutch player (as of now) and Amla hasn't, then its just laughable.

Of course, future performance would change perceptions.
 
Cricket Baba said:
This doesn't work in amla case even if his team wins he will be bashed by anti bhai birgade for rest of the like and people like [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] make those threads active and now here he is defending his kohli by adding t20 and ct into a world cup knockout :)) well i can't blame him if he can't see the difference
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And for a good reason.

What's the reason Amla gets away with comments like "I hope SA loses against Pakistan but Amla plays good so his average isn't disturbed".

Can you give any sort of logic to that statement, except Muslim Ummah 11?
 
Cricket Baba said:
sensitive? i blame both bhai and anti bhai brigade for hyping these 2 players they are are they sachin of this era and will never become big match players like ponting gilly or viv not even mahela
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Kohli hasn't even finished his tourney and shown glimpses of extreme clutch in the past.

Amla hasn't even finished his tourney but he is criticized for his past performances.

So calling them as SRT of this era (you are misinformed as SRT as he performed in ALL WC knockouts except 2 finals) is just faulty analysis.
 
Cricket Baba said:
sensitive? i blame both bhai and anti bhai brigade for hyping these 2 players they are are they sachin of this era and will never become big match players like ponting gilly or viv not even mahela
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Sachin is one of the biggest big match player ever. Has one the highest average in finals, almost single handedly won us the CB series, only indian series win in Aus. Also was critical in both QF and SF in WC 2011. Now if you count one single failure in final to prove your point, what can I say (WC 2003 was chasing 360 in WC final, something not even Viv could have done)

I love how you chose all knock outs for Kohli and Amla and just one final for Sachin. Troll.
 
Cricket Baba said:
keep them coming excuse brigade!
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Actually I don't get you.

You don't rate Tendulkar thats fine.

You think Gilly, Ponting, even Jayawardene is better than Tendulkar that's fine as well.

But why do you insist that that's actually the case.

Your opinion is pretty weak and you should just consider it your personal opinion.

Lots of ex-cricketers and those who have watched the game for decades rate Tendulkar as the finest batsmen of the generation.

And he is awesome.

I think he is next to Bradman. Only Viv could make a case for being better.

But people like Gilchrist while ATG's are not close to Tendulkar, and if you constantly repeat that , you are only showing your own short-sighted opinion.

It's better to just stick with your opinion, and not try to convince Indian or other nationality posters that your opinion is the best as regards Tendulkar.
 
Funny troll thread. I enjoy reading such threads and pop corn moment is when the trollers make a fool of themselves and meanwhile others are defending their attacks of such people. Epic thread :D
 
Haha this is going to be fun.

It has become supporting/criticizing individuals rather than discussion on pure cricket.

The Kohli fan boys will come up with their own logic to prove he is not a bottler,making claims like the sample size isn't big enough etc.
But this same lot goes after Amla/ABDV head despite those guys having not as bad record as Kohli who has bottled more.

Insecurities getting annoying.
 
Cricket Baba said:
Legendary stats and look at the strike rate of kohli tell you how much damage pressure can do :D

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Maybe stats justify Amla's performance but as of Kohli, its a matter of time before he score big in one of KO game. And that will open the floodgates then........
 
Tough time for :amla brigade, but unlike the Ummah legend, Kohli has proven his mettle in various ICC tournaments. Its true that he hasn't clicked in this World Cup like he should have, but he has a lot left in the tank.

In 2011, he was not close to the player he is today.

:amla was the best ODI opener in 2011 as well, but flunked badly. Even in this World Cup, he has been pretty ordinary in spite of being in the form of his life. Not to forget the various failures in World T20s and Champions Trophy 2013.

T20 may be 'fun' cricket, but players don't under-perform because they don't take it seriously; once you step onto the field wearing your countries colors, there is no such thing as fun; its all pride and honour.

The lengths people will go to defend :amla, I wonder why no South African created this thread.
 
Kohli - A bottler in ODI knockouts?

So far, has been a failure in ODI knockouts.

Was great in the first match against Pak and then had a mediocre tournament.

And failed again where he was needed..

Will we see a different Kohli in perhaps 2019 World Cup then?
 
Gg cya India, Kohli gone, so is the world cup.

Giving back the cup tonight !
 
Virat Kohli - Big Game Bottler?

That's 5 KO World Cup matches and he's been poor.

Terrible today, killed all the momentum and then got out.
 
OK,

Make it 5 out of 5 failures.

What on Earth? :))) :)))

I really like Kohli, but this is getting a bit too much. :))
 
Not a good day for Tiranga Club(Headed by mamoon) :P...maybe if india make the finals kohli may have final say in this
 
Lol no comment. I suppose he would have pulled it off if Sri Lanka was playing :P
 
where is mamoon....apparently Kohli is so clutch that knock outs were supposed to be sleep walking 100s for him :P

Tiranga club seems to be invisible regarding kohli:D
 
Amla and Kohl are both bottlers as of now.

Although Amla cannot even score against non- minnows in qualifiers, so he is still the benchmark for bottlers.

This is why ABDV is hands down the greatest batsman of the generation, no comparison,
 
now Dhoni and Raina need to win this match for Kohli i guess so he can score a double hundred in final?
 
Scrolln said:
Amla and Kohl are both bottlers as of now.

Although Amla cannot even score against non- minnows in qualifiers, so he is still the benchmark for bottlers.

This is why ABDV is hands down the greatest batsman of the generation, no comparison,
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ABDV is by far the best batmsan of probably 2-3 decades. No comparison with anyone else.

Now for Amla and Kohli, at least Amla has scored on the big stage, in this world cup.

Made his team win a few matches, scored heavily. Whereas Kohli scored in ONLY ONE match where he was dropped TWICE... against Pakistan.

5 out of 5 failures for Kohli.... 15 average in 5 matches. :P
 
Not as much a bottler as Amla,but not as good clutch player as people hype too
 
hahahhaha tiranga club seems angry:P

bashing amla even today prolly not tired of bashing him all month long now since their ghar ka kohli failed they bringing it all back on amla:P


where is the leader mamoon:P....clutch kohli ?:P
 
Hawkeye said:
What are you smoking?

Kohli has 5 failures in 5 matches, at 15 average. Scored in only one match in such a big ICC event.

Whereas Amla has 2 (now 3) failures only.. and actually scored heavily for his team at the big stage of ICC World Cup.

Please use logic and facts, not what you've made up in your mind.
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What did Amla do in other ICC tournament knockouts?

Amla scored against WI and Ireland.Kohli against Pakistan in this WC.Which is better?
 
anyway jokes aside i think everyone knew this bottler kohli was going to be useless anyway against aus in aus with his poor technique so no surprises with his failure here...he is truly clutch against sri lanka though:P
 
wow now T20 is being used as an argument to defend ODI failures of Kohli :)) :)))

I hope Dhoni and Raina win this match for India so that we can witness Kohli 200 in Final against NZ
 
Saurav said:
Scored in knockouts of both ICC tourneys and WT20.Amla hasnt done it once
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HAHA! Please don't group the second grade CT with the World Cup. Even the choking Saffers managed to win a Champions Trophy.

And now we are including the T20 WC in this discussion? Talk about shifting goalposts. How about including test performances in here too? Amla has played amazing, pressure knocks in all the big cricketing countries as far as that format in concerned.

Amla > Kohli in WC KO matches. :yk2
 
Let us also keep in mind that this guy played a WC in his backyard in a lineup that was probably the best ever in subcontinental ODIs.
 
Bilal7 said:
Let us also keep in mind that this guy played a WC in his backyard in a lineup that was probably the best ever in subcontinental ODIs.
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and he got a QF against bangladesh

are you freaking kidding me?

a QF against bangladesh...tiranga club would hav expected a double 100 from kohli in that match but it was not to be:yk2
 
Hawkeye said:
So far, has been a failure in ODI knockouts.

Was great in the first match against Pak and then had a mediocre tournament.

And failed again where he was needed..

Will we see a different Kohli in perhaps 2019 World Cup then?
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He wasn't great in the first match by any means, bro. Scored a century at a SR of what? 80 odd? Was also dropped twice in that match and once when he was in single digits, IIRC.
 
Itachi said:
amla and kholi, both are bottler in knockouts.
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It shouldn't be used to discredit all of their other achievements though. Kohli, despite having a lot of other weaknesses has been the best at what he does. Which is chasing scores in the subcontinent and on batting tracks. Amla will make my all-time ODI lineup without question.
 
Bilal7 said:
HAHA! Please don't group the second grade CT with the World Cup. Even the choking Saffers managed to win a Champions Trophy.

And now we are including the T20 WC in this discussion? Talk about shifting goalposts. How about including test performances in here too? Amla has played amazing, pressure knocks in all the big cricketing countries as far as that format in concerned.

Amla > Kohli in WC KO matches. :yk2
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Care to list some pressure knocks by Amla?

For knockouts we will obviously talk about all knockouts.Just because Amla failed doesnt mean they are irrelevant
 
now only Dhoni can arrange another KO chance for Kohli to score a double hundred in Final by winning this match so [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] [MENTION=129996]bill_123[/MENTION] start praying guys if you want to witness a classy 200 in Final against boult and co!
 
Pretty sure he scored a unbeaten half century in the SF of the CT2013 and then top scored in the final. He's just had a bad World Cup overall.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters on here are genuinely retarded or have never been within a 20 mile radius of a data handling/statistics class. A mong would be proud of the way some of you guys like to use statistics here.
 
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