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Virat Kohli: Bhuvi hasn't played a lot of test cricket recently, Umesh picked 10 wickets in his last match and was in good rhythm so we picked him. We could have considered Ashwin if he was fully fit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Virat Kohli: Bhuvi hasn't played a lot of test cricket recently, Umesh picked 10 wickets in his last match and was in good rhythm so we picked him. We could have considered Ashwin if he was fully fit. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvAUS</a> <a href="https://t.co/UhBaaJqBjk">pic.twitter.com/UhBaaJqBjk</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1074874501920243712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Is Virat Kohli the most dumbest captain or arrogant who won't accept his mistakes?

Selecting Rohit instead of Rahane in SA.
Selecting Rohit instead of Vihari in Australia.
 
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Shaoli loves Rohit Sharma.

Be it India or South Africa, England or Australia, he'll be brought in at the slightest whim over more deserving/bonafide test candidates.
 
"When we looked at the pitch, we didn't think about the (Ravindra) Jadeja option" : Virat Kohli

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Virat Kohli opted to play with four seamers and no specialist spinner and paid a huge price for his selection by losing the second Test against Australia by 146 runs in Perth on Tuesday. Senior Indian pacer Ishant Sharma (4/41) and Mohammed Shami (6/56) bowled well for the hosts but it wasn't enough for India to win the second Test. However, Ravindra Jadeja, who was available for selection, was overlooked for Perth Test. Team India skipper Virat Kohli however, said that he thought going into the match with four quicks will be enough to win in Perth after the hosts had taken a 1-0 lead in the first Test.

"When we looked at the pitch, we didn't think about the (Ravindra) Jadeja option. We thought four quicks would be enough. Nathan Lyon bowled really well. We never thought about the spin option to be honest," Kohli said in the post-match interview.

In spite of the loss, the 30-year-old Kohli continued to back his pacers and said that it was really pleasing to see the way they dominated in the second innings.

"It was really pleasing to see the way our bowlers bowled relentlessly and dominated with the ball in the second innings," Kohli said.

With the 146-run win in Perth, skipper Tim Paine recorded his first win as Australia captain. It is also Australia's first victory in the longest format after the ball-tampering scandal broke out in March.

Kohli applauded Australia for their series-levelling victory and reckoned that his side would have liked to chase 30-40 runs less.

"As a team I think we played well in patches and that's something that we can hold on and take forward in the next game. Australia played better cricket than us and they deserved to win. Maybe we would have liked 30-40 less to chase," Kohli said.

Australia will next host India in the Boxing Day Test starting from December 26 at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG).

https://sports.ndtv.com/australia-v...o-win-perth-test-1964183?pfrom=home-sshowcase
 
Kohli is an excellent captain with a never die attitude. Bhuvi couldn't have taken a single wicket on this track, he averages 168 in Australia. This pitch is suited for Umesh, people used to call Dhoni names for not picking up lethal pace bowlers but when Kohli does he gets the hate. Kohli is right here.
 
Kohli is an excellent captain with a never die attitude. Bhuvi couldn't have taken a single wicket on this track, he averages 168 in Australia. This pitch is suited for Umesh, people used to call Dhoni names for not picking up lethal pace bowlers but when Kohli does he gets the hate. Kohli is right here.

Lol this pitch had loads of seam movement. It was perfect for Bhuvi. Plus he can bat.

Terrible, terrible selection blunder.
 
Its easy to say Bhuvi would have bowled better than Umesh. Umesh has extra pace and even though he didn't click, he was the right option for this match.
 
He is very gracious in defeat and acknowledged the Australian team. That's very nice of him. It's good that he doesn't keep any grudges after the match is over. When I looked at the pitch I also thought it's better to go with four pacers.
 
Its easy to say Bhuvi would have bowled better than Umesh. Umesh has extra pace and even though he didn't click, he was the right option for this match.

Umesh bowls around 4-5 rpo even on his good days, if he's the right option you are asking for the wrong result.
 
India's batting is unfortunately mediocre, so not much could be done for it.
 
BK is a batsman's delight to cart around in tests.

This harmless trundler has no business playing Test cricket. When will you guys learn? More laughing stock for your bowling.
 
BK is a batsman's delight to cart around in tests.

This harmless trundler has no business playing Test cricket. When will you guys learn? More laughing stock for your bowling.

On a pitch that seams, Bhuvi would have been super hard.

Bhuvi the test bowler is way different from Bhuvi the ODI bowler.
 
Check out his performance on SA seaming pitches.

Also he's the best new ball bowler in the team.

On pattas, he may not be good.
 
Kohli is an excellent captain with a never die attitude. Bhuvi couldn't have taken a single wicket on this track, he averages 168 in Australia. This pitch is suited for Umesh, people used to call Dhoni names for not picking up lethal pace bowlers but when Kohli does he gets the hate. Kohli is right here.

He averages 168 as he played a single test when injured. No one who has seen Bhuvi in recent times would accuse him on not being able to take wickets. He was bouncing batsmen and reverse seaming in SA

I think you havent watched indian bowling for last 5 years. Umesh was trundling in low 130s entire test. Bhuvi was bowling at 140 in SA and bouncing batsmen our
 
BK is a batsman's delight to cart around in tests.

This harmless trundler has no business playing Test cricket. When will you guys learn? More laughing stock for your bowling.

Bhuvi averages 26 in tests. Apart from 1 test in Australia he average below 27 in every single country including India. He averages 21 in 2017 and 20 in 2018. He averages same home and away.

I think you might be confusing LOIs for tests?
 
I can see why he picked Umesh ahead of bhuvi. Ppl r going after him without any reason what so ever. Perth is a fast and bouncy wicket with litlle to no lateral movement.

Bowlers who lack speed and relies on swing only r usually taken to the cleaners here. So naturally he picked speed star Umesh ahead of trundler bhuvi. The outcome of the match wouldn't have been different even if bhuvi had played.

It's the batters who lost the match for India, not the bowlers.
 
I can see why he picked Umesh ahead of bhuvi. Ppl r going after him without any reason what so ever. Perth is a fast and bouncy wicket with litlle to no lateral movement.

Bowlers who lack speed and relies on swing only r usually taken to the cleaners here. So naturally he picked speed star Umesh ahead of trundler bhuvi. The outcome of the match wouldn't have been different even if bhuvi had played.

It's the batters who lost the match for India, not the bowlers.

Umesh bowled at low 130s. Bhuvi was bowling 140s in SA. Bhuvi was bouncing out batsmen in SA wickets without much movement. The pitch was getting some movement throughout as Ishant, Bumrah, Starc and Hazlewood showed
 
Congratulations to Australia for their superb win. On this pitch they had superior skills and thoroughly deserved the victory. Nathan Lyon was sensational and Australia would just be half the team without his services.

As far as India goes, the 112 run first wicket partnership where Australia started exceptionally well was the first dagger on their hopes. They tried to bowl a length which was generally a good one for Australian conditions but just didn't work on this pitch. Before they altered their lengths, the horse had bolted. Similarly we batted, the third day morning is when we should have done better as the effect of the heavy roller was still there. Rahane and others only offered token support to Kohli when much more was required. On the other hand when Australia batted during the first sessions they really made it count. That was the most significant factor in this test match.

Not to forget Lyon who proved the difference in the bowling attack. The lower order batting is also a liability for India, but that is to be expected since home side is expected to bat better.

Indian batting absolutely has to pull their socks up and score - not sure how we are going to manage it especially with walking wickets right at the top. Fingers crossed they find a way!

Why don't we let Ashwin/Jadeja open as a stop gap measure?
 
Vijay and KL are the other curprits.

They need to be dropped ASAP.

Seriously! We are always 2 down for next to nothing on the board. Really irritated by Rahul. This guy is going to cost us a series win with his crap batting!
 
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Umesh Yadav is only good for home Test Matches where he can get that new ball spell + occasional old ball spell (perhaps 10 to 20 overs a day) to get those magic wickets and playing secondary role to spinners. Not a good option overseas where he will be required to bowl longer & repeated spells.
 
Seriously! We are always 2 down for next to nothing on the board. Really irritated by Rahul. This guy is going to cost us a series win with his crap batting!
Not just 1 series.

He has already cost our last 2 overseas series with his totally inept batting.
 
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On a pitch that seams, Bhuvi would have been super hard.

Bhuvi the test bowler is way different from Bhuvi the ODI bowler.

Bhuvi averages 26 in tests. Apart from 1 test in Australia he average below 27 in every single country including India. He averages 21 in 2017 and 20 in 2018. He averages same home and away.

I think you might be confusing LOIs for tests?

I see.

Might have confused his ODI performances with Tests.

But, as an outsider, if I was a batsman, it would've been easier for me to just leave his early swing balls and go after him later.
.

No such luxury in Odis where you have to go after him early..
 
Bhuvi averages 26 in tests. Apart from 1 test in Australia he average below 27 in every single country including India. He averages 21 in 2017 and 20 in 2018. He averages same home and away.

I think you might be confusing LOIs for tests?

Fair enough. Is there a rift in the Indian team now? You can watch the video in the link, Ishant vs Jadeja

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ishant-sharma-ravindra-jadeja-fight-india-vs-australia-2nd-test-perth-stadium-1411892-2018-12-18
 
Not just 1 series.

He has already cost our last 2 overseas series with his totally inept batting.

It is about time now for him to prioritize whether he wants to remain only an ipl product or wants to represent India at the highest level. There's no problem with him choosing either but he needs to make a decision.
 
Seriously! We are always 2 down for next to nothing on the board. Really irritated by Rahul. This guy is going to cost us a series win with his crap batting!

IPL surely has affected our Test Batting! I am damn sure that KL Rahul would have been a settled & prominent Test Opener by now (just like Rahul Dravid was our prominent No.3) had he not encountered IPL... On the other hand IPL has definitely helped our fast bowlers improve! So don't know what to do with this double-edged sword! Probably it comes down to proper resource handling and management (In such scenarios you need high quality Coach & Captain! But unfortunately we have two of the worst guys in those positions as of now!)
 
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I see even Rahane (such a good Test bat few years back), Vijay (should have retired on a high!) all getting affected by T20? Losing their defense? Fortunately Pujara swayed away from IPL pretty early, otherwise we would have gone dismal in Tests (losing even at home perhaps!) I don't what happens to Shaw, Gill, etc? Will they get over-aggressive and lose their defense? OR will they become smarter like Kohli and handle all formats effectively? Kohli though a great batsman is in his own mess (Captaincy/Selection issues) and he is getting into this situation of 4th innings failure where all his batting efforts goes in vein!
 
BK is a batsman's delight to cart around in tests.

This harmless trundler has no business playing Test cricket. When will you guys learn? More laughing stock for your bowling.

He was MOTM in our Johannesburg test win this year.
 
It's always easy to judge things in hindsight. For some posters, easiest way to criticize captain after the loss is - check the scorecard, figure out worst 2 performers in the match in either batting or bowling, and blame their selection the reason for the loss. As if the other 10 players did everything right, and only because of that 1 player who didn't play, we would have won the match. If you are dependent on that one player, whose selection is not guaranteed anyway, to win you the match then you are being delusional.

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar inspires no confidence these days, he looks completely harmless and it made sense to pick Yadav over him.
 
I see even Rahane (such a good Test bat few years back), Vijay (should have retired on a high!) all getting affected by T20? Losing their defense? Fortunately Pujara swayed away from IPL pretty early, otherwise we would have gone dismal in Tests (losing even at home perhaps!) I don't what happens to Shaw, Gill, etc? Will they get over-aggressive and lose their defense? OR will they become smarter like Kohli and handle all formats effectively? Kohli though a great batsman is in his own mess (Captaincy/Selection issues) and he is getting into this situation of 4th innings failure where all his batting efforts goes in vein!

Murali Vijay didn't play IPL in 2017. In fact, he had a good form while he was playing IPL. Rahane has greater domestic records than IPL record, that's why he is in the team.
 
Maybe He should judge batsmen similarly but the guy selected Rohit..so in that logic Rohit should had been dropped and Vihari selected in first test!

Kohli the captain <<<<<<<<<<< Kohli the batsman!
 
I see.

Might have confused his ODI performances with Tests.

But, as an outsider, if I was a batsman, it would've been easier for me to just leave his early swing balls and go after him later.
.

No such luxury in Odis where you have to go after him early..

Over 60% of his test wickets are with a 30 over or older ball
 
Never give up attitude? Agreed.

Lol, 6 bankruptcies, countless criminal cases. He is a conman and a liar who made his career by conning gullible people. Running for president was the worst thing he could have done as earlier he could bribe and hide but now every part of his life is under scrutiny
 
It's always easy to judge things in hindsight. For some posters, easiest way to criticize captain after the loss is - check the scorecard, figure out worst 2 performers in the match in either batting or bowling, and blame their selection the reason for the loss. As if the other 10 players did everything right, and only because of that 1 player who didn't play, we would have won the match. If you are dependent on that one player, whose selection is not guaranteed anyway, to win you the match then you are being delusional.

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar inspires no confidence these days, he looks completely harmless and it made sense to pick Yadav over him.

You can check the posts of many posters here who commented even before 5 overs were bowled in the first innings.

In fact, most posters here aren't even suggesting Bhuvi is the best option. We should hav gone with a spinner but if a pacer had to be picked, it would be Bhuvi and not Umesh.

Why?

One, in a 4 man bowling attack, you can't hav a run leaking machine. Too risky.

Two, bhuvi is good when pitch has life. Check his record in recent times.

Three, he strengthens the batting. And as predicted, our tail scored 10 runs in first innings and 2-4 runs in second. Would you believe that.

Sadly fact is that Kohli is an idiot and will remain so.

He even made a statement that after looking the pitch, he didn't even consider playing Jaddu.

Lyon ended up as MOM.

Dunno whether to laugh or cry. :))
 
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] to me Kohli has been a complete idiot on many occasions.We saw how good Rohit as a captain was in asia cup.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. The reasons for including Umesh in the XI:
- He was in good bowling form (10fer in his last test)
- He's got a 5fer at Perth
- He was in good bowling rhythm and bowling well in the nets
- The pacy pitch suited his natural style of bowling.

So, Kohli's decision wasn't illogical or irrational and he couldn't possibly have known that Umesh would bowl as poorly as he did, even by his wayward standards.
 
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Hindsight is 20/20. The reasons for including Umesh in the XI:
- He was in good bowling form (10fer in his last test)
- He's got a 5fer at Perth
- He was in good bowling rhythm and bowling well in the nets
- The pacy pitch suited his natural style of bowling.

So, Kohli's decision wasn't illogical or irrational and he couldn't possibly have known that Umesh would bowl as poorly as he did, even by his wayward standards.

If he couldn't possibly have known despite Umesh playing for so many years, he is an idiot and should resign immediately.

And you cannot talk about hindsight when every single person called Umesh selection stupid BEFORE the match began
 
I am sure even Mushfiqur has better common sense and knowledge than Kohli
 
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