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So, I was just looking at Kohli's stats, and was trying to find out if his inability to get a hundred in this WC is an anamoly or a pattern.

Kohli's career innings played/hundreds scored ratio is 227/41 = 5.53, which mean he get a hundred every 5th or 6th innings.

The number though drops to 77/8 = 9.625 in ODI tournaments including tri-series.
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His numbers in ICC ODI tournaments are even more surprising, in 37 innings he has just 2 hundreds, both of which came in the opening games for his side in 2011 and 2015 WC's respectively. The ratio of 37/2 =18.5 means that he get a hundred roughly every 2 WC's, which might be a worrying sign for India.
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His inn/ton is 150/38 = 4.54 meaning he gets a hundred every 4th or 5th innings.
 
So, I was just looking at Kohli's stats, and was trying to find out if his inability to get a hundred in this WC is an anamoly or a pattern.

Kohli's career innings played/hundreds scored ratio is 227/41 = 5.53, which mean he get a hundred every 5th or 6th innings.

The number though drops to 77/8 = 9.625 in ODI tournaments including tri-series.
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His numbers in ICC ODI tournaments are even more surprising, in 37 innings he has just 2 hundreds, both of which came in the opening games for his side in 2011 and 2015 WC's respectively. The ratio of 37/2 =18.5 means that he get a hundred roughly every 2 WC's, which might be a worrying sign for India.
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His inn/ton is 150/38 = 4.54 meaning he gets a hundred every 4th or 5th innings.
for normal bilateral series.
 
It's only in PP where you find threads questioning players like Virat Kohli and Steve Smith. These are 2 of the best players of this generation and PP looks for little holes in their records and other great players every time. To be honest nearly every player has a glitch in his record .

Kohli is averaging nearly 60 in this WC. He would have got 100s versus Pakistan and Australia had he had more time. Also against West Indies and Afghanistan on difficult pitches he looked a class above everyone else. So if PP is trying to make out as though Kohli is a choker it's a myth. He was unbelievable in the last 2 World T20s, our fans do banghra over winning meaningless bilateral T20s so they can have their cake and eat it. If Sarfraz is a great captain for winning T20 series , why is Kohli a failure under pressure for performing in ICC tournaments? Are World T20s not pressure games ? As I said posters can have their cake and eat it.

Kohli is a having a good tournament as a batter and captain imo. As I said it's only in PP will Virat Kohli be questioned for his stats and numbers. You can question his antics . But questioning his batting and numbers is mind blowing stuff.
 
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It's only in PP where you find threads questioning players like Virat Kohli and Steve Smith. These are 2 of the best players of this generation and PP looks for little holes in their records and other great players every time. To be honest nearly every player has a glitch in his record .

Kohli is averaging nearly 60 in this WC. He would have got 100s versus Pakistan and Australia had he had more time. Also against West Indies and Afghanistan on difficult pitches he looked a class above everyone else. So if PP is trying to make out as though Kohli is a choker it's a myth. He was unbelievable in the last 2 World T20s, our fans do banghra over winning meaningless bilateral T20s so they can have their cake and eat it. If Sarfraz is a great captain for winning T20 series , why is Kohli a failure under pressure for performing in ICC tournaments? Are World T20s not pressure games ? As I said posters can have their cake and eat it.

Kohli is a having a good tournament as a batter and captain imo. As I said it's only in PP will Virat Kohli be questioned for his stats and numbers. You can question his antics . But questioning his batting and numbers is mind blowing stuff.

I never said that he is choking, to me it's just a dip in numbers, the impact created by him is still there, but still it is surprising to notice such patterns.
 
i think this is one stats where Kohli is a bit off.... No doubt that Kohli in tournaments is one or 2 levels below the normal Kohli.
 
Have said this so many times already that if Kohli wants to prolong his international cricket career he has to stay away from useless leagues like IPL. This will keep him fresh and hungry. When you are playing all the formats of the game and also playing 2 months of IPL matches it is going to affect your body and mind. :inti
 
I never said that he is choking, to me it's just a dip in numbers, the impact created by him is still there, but still it is surprising to notice such patterns.

His performance in 2011 WC was mediocre. 2015 wasn't great either. However, there are no complaints in this WC. He has been very consistent and in command. In every game, I thought he was more at ease than even Rohit. This is easily his best WC and India needs one or two great innings from him.
 
So, I was just looking at Kohli's stats, and was trying to find out if his inability to get a hundred in this WC is an anamoly or a pattern.

Kohli's career innings played/hundreds scored ratio is 227/41 = 5.53, which mean he get a hundred every 5th or 6th innings.

The number though drops to 77/8 = 9.625 in ODI tournaments including tri-series.
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His numbers in ICC ODI tournaments are even more surprising, in 37 innings he has just 2 hundreds, both of which came in the opening games for his side in 2011 and 2015 WC's respectively. The ratio of 37/2 =18.5 means that he get a hundred roughly every 2 WC's, which might be a worrying sign for India.
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for normal bilateral series.


His lowest average in all of the above pics is 49.00, with a SR of 87, which is still Fantastic :vk2
 
Have said this so many times already that if Kohli wants to prolong his international cricket career he has to stay away from useless leagues like IPL. This will keep him fresh and hungry. When you are playing all the formats of the game and also playing 2 months of IPL matches it is going to affect your body and mind. :inti

So you are saying, Kohli doesnt have a 100 this World Cup, because of the IPL :trump2
 
personally I think Virat Kholi is overrated especially due to his lackluster performance during this World Cup 2019. His conduct and behavior on the field has been deplorable. Recently he admonished the Indian bowler Shami with gutter level profanity which I don’t believe I’ve ever heard any Pakistani captain talk in this way to his players! I believe BCCI should seriously look at offering the captaincy to Rohit Sharma who unlike Kholi is modest, down to earth and an outstanding sportsman.
 
Kohli should be out of Indian team. He’s a non performer. Just average of 60 in this world cup with no century!!

Only Indian player worse than Kohli is No-hit sharma who has hit not a single double century in this tournament though has three in useless Bilaterals.

Kohli is a proven arrogant non-team-player who went out of his way in stands to terrorise a 80+ year old woman. If he was a Pakistani, he would not have made it even as Habib Bank team’s 12th man. Let’s get Prithvi as replacement or beg Rayudu to come out of early retirement.
 
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personally I think Virat Kholi is overrated especially due to his lackluster performance during this World Cup 2019. His conduct and behavior on the field has been deplorable. Recently he admonished the Indian bowler Shami with gutter level profanity which I don’t believe I’ve ever heard any Pakistani captain talk in this way to his players! I believe BCCI should seriously look at offering the captaincy to Rohit Sharma who unlike Kholi is modest, down to earth and an outstanding sportsman.
Lol. Both Pakistanis and Indians have been using Hindi/ Punjabi swear words since time immemorial. Heck, even a nobody like Taufiq Umar abused Sachin Tendulkar.
 
So, I was just looking at Kohli's stats, and was trying to find out if his inability to get a hundred in this WC is an anamoly or a pattern.

Kohli's career innings played/hundreds scored ratio is 227/41 = 5.53, which mean he get a hundred every 5th or 6th innings.

The number though drops to 77/8 = 9.625 in ODI tournaments including tri-series.
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His numbers in ICC ODI tournaments are even more surprising, in 37 innings he has just 2 hundreds, both of which came in the opening games for his side in 2011 and 2015 WC's respectively. The ratio of 37/2 =18.5 means that he get a hundred roughly every 2 WC's, which might be a worrying sign for India.
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for normal bilateral series.

There is no pattern. opening batsmen stepped up most of the time. So he had little time to score a 100. he had to take chances constantly.
 
Have said this so many times already that if Kohli wants to prolong his international cricket career he has to stay away from useless leagues like IPL. This will keep him fresh and hungry. When you are playing all the formats of the game and also playing 2 months of IPL matches it is going to affect your body and mind. :inti

This is not the major fac
 
personally I think Virat Kholi is overrated especially due to his lackluster performance during this World Cup 2019. His conduct and behavior on the field has been deplorable. Recently he admonished the Indian bowler Shami with gutter level profanity which I don’t believe I’ve ever heard any Pakistani captain talk in this way to his players! I believe BCCI should seriously look at offering the captaincy to Rohit Sharma who unlike Kholi is modest, down to earth and an outstanding sportsman.

A nobody cricketer like Balaji Rao from Canada abused the great Umar Gul. It's in the blood mate.
 
Sharma getting 100s is the prime reason for Kohli not getting any, it's as simple as that. He doesn't feel the need/gets the time to play his usual long/well Calculated innings.
 
So you are saying, Kohli doesnt have a 100 this World Cup, because of the IPL :trump2

The reason Kohli doesn't have a century in this WC should be obvious. Rohit and Rahul (Dhawan previously) have been doing well and don't leave him enough overs to play.
 
Kohli should be out of Indian team. He’s a non performer. Just average of 60 in this world cup with no century!!

Only Indian player worse than Kohli is No-hit sharma who has hit not a single double century in this tournament though has three in useless Bilaterals.

Kohli is a proven arrogant non-team-player who went out of his way in stands to terrorise a 80+ year old woman. If he was a Pakistani, he would not have made it even as Habib Bank team’s 12th man. Let’s get Prithvi as replacement or beg Rayudu to come out of early retirement.

This! Finally someone says what everybody else is too afraid to say :))
 
personally I think Virat Kholi is overrated especially due to his lackluster performance during this World Cup 2019. His conduct and behavior on the field has been deplorable. Recently he admonished the Indian bowler Shami with gutter level profanity which I don’t believe I’ve ever heard any Pakistani captain talk in this way to his players! I believe BCCI should seriously look at offering the captaincy to Rohit Sharma who unlike Kholi is modest, down to earth and an outstanding sportsman.

Sir, you are a great addition to the Pakpassion forum. I look forward to your contributions, especially your thoughts on Indian cricket.
 
Kohli scored like 5 consecutive 50s, he has been an excellent support batsman. By no means he had a bad WC.
 
Kohli doesn't care for records! He only has the intention to win the games for his team and contribute in that! That's it! Now people complain that his record is not good enough! (He has such impressive stat/averages/strike-rates and even centuries for that matter!) On the other hand we saw accusations for Sachin Tendular that he only plays for records (so many centuries - 100s of centuries, blah blah) as if he was not interested in his team's victory and only cared for personal milestones! (One can see the happiness in his face in 2011 when he won the world cup finally! That is the ultimate satisfaction!) Look at the extremes of accusations for these players, and this is the best example of how stupid people can be! So how the hell a player should be for you?

The point is Kohli has a very decent, very good team with him, he is captaining it and he is concentrated in winning games for his team! (Cricket is a team game FYI in the first place!) In the event if he gets centuries, contributes in a big way, then he will be happy for that! But Sachin had a very average, sometimes worst team, so he tried hard to contribute/take full responsibility on his shoulders to again win games for his team (not to achieve personal milestones as you see!) and in the event only his personal stats used to bloat (he had to preserve his wicket perhaps! Because once he gets out - the match is over, everyone knew that!) the inferior players resulted in team's losses, that's why he couldn't even succeed as a captain (during his captaincy we had the worst team ever perhaps! So sad!) And when he eventually had a good team (2011) we won the world cup and only his presence was enough for us to win, he was past his prime and it did not matter (still played a vital role in semifinal! But he did not have many centuries/big scores to show for your liking!)

These players don't even have to worry about keeping their place in the side (They would have done that in the early part of their career! To establish in the team first, so that they can start contributing and take up the responsibility! They will have far & bright vision!) They don't bother whether they get any big scores, they will be only worried about team's victory! Nobody will question how many centuries they got, they will only question if the team is not winning! People will actually won't bother to have these players play for the team with broken fingers or legs! That's how important they are! But as I said everyone (including these players) will be happy if they achieve these personal milestones, because it is eventually going to happen but they are not critical or cynical about that and are not focused at that (And you know what happens if a player only focuses at that and how he declines and vanishes!)

This is what you will understand when you see "Cricket" as a "team game" and not "personal race"! Unfortunately PP is obsessed with player's performance, player vs player comparisons, etc! If players also think this way (personal milestones are important than team's victory) it results in fragile team-composition and leads to a team's downfall! (And I agree there are such players also in the game who think like this, think like these posters here! And they will eventually vanish one day! Only the sane cricketers who contribute to the team properly will survive and will eventually end up with better stats - simply because they will play a lot more games and that's enough to improve their stats! Those who have read Bhagavadgita or Quran or Bible will understand this! Do your work honestly, rest will follow you! Win for your team, personal stats will follow you!)

Anyhow I could see some genuine posters in this forum who do interesting conversations on actual game of cricket instead of these personal stats :)
 
Have said this so many times already that if Kohli wants to prolong his international cricket career he has to stay away from useless leagues like IPL. This will keep him fresh and hungry. When you are playing all the formats of the game and also playing 2 months of IPL matches it is going to affect your body and mind. :inti

How well you linked even this with IPL :)) But players like Pandya, Pant, Bumrah, etc, coming up and handling pressure well should not be attributed to IPL at all...!
 
How well you linked even this with IPL :)) But players like Pandya, Pant, Bumrah, etc, coming up and handling pressure well should not be attributed to IPL at all...!

Eh, the other players don't play all formats like Kohli, who's been working his rear off for 10 years. As a batsman, Kohli does inhuman amount of work. Captain of Test and ODI, being best batsman in test and second best in ODIs, and captain+ best batsman for IPL team all take their tolls. No other batsman had this much workload in cricket.
 
Have said this so many times already that if Kohli wants to prolong his international cricket career he has to stay away from useless leagues like IPL. This will keep him fresh and hungry. When you are playing all the formats of the game and also playing 2 months of IPL matches it is going to affect your body and mind. :inti

If players like Kohli don't play in IPL then IPL will not flourish! (I know you will be very happy about that!) What people like us believe is - IPL gives the platform for budding players to show & develop their skills, an opportunity to play at top level, real competitive environment, a simulation of international cricket (which you won't get in A tours, under-19 tours), real pressure situations where the world's best are involved (if you win such situations and if the world's best is your opposition, then it will give immense confidence boosters to yourself! That's how so many budding cricketers evolved quickly e.g., Bumrah - we could not get such bowler in our entire history! Not only India it also helped so many other teams to develop players which they didn't have in the past! So many players have learnt how to handle spinners - at least in LOIs... So many teams have now got good spinners in their team - like Tahir, Santner, etc!)

You are completely in a shell criticizing IPL to the core and only point negatives about it! I hope & beg that you will understand what we say for one last time! I hope you understand that top quality players won't drop from heavens just like that and start contributing, they will need some infrastructure, platform to flourish. BCCI is strong now financially (very important) and organized well, that's why top quality players are emerging from time to time (that's why IPL is important for that! And there are people who enjoy watching it! They are entertained! So what more complaint you have?) You have some petty excuses and petty things you want to achieve which are mostly insignificant (like players won't get injured if they don't play IPL, people have lost interest about international cricket due to IPL, some countries are sidelined due to IPL, etc, etc! But none of this is true! If you are that worried about IPL, then whole game of cricket should be banned in India if economical growth of each citizen of the country is your concern! If its wasting everyone's time and money!)
 
Eh, the other players don't play all formats like Kohli, who's been working his rear off for 10 years. As a batsman, Kohli does inhuman amount of work. Captain of Test and ODI, being best batsman in test and second best in ODIs, and captain+ best batsman for IPL team all take their tolls. No other batsman had this much workload in cricket.

That is why he needs a good return for all these work load, IPL gives him that in a large way (I don't think captaining the test side can give him that! It only can give him more stress mentally & physically!) More importantly IPL has given him best players to compete in International Cricket (Overseas Tests!) even though he has a poor IPL team & doesn't have much success, but it has given him better lessons to improve his international team which is going in the right direction! I think he will forget all the tensions & failures in IPL when that lays the foundation for the success in international cricket! His body and mind will be relaxed! (Its like having a nice drink after a heavy workup! This is not stress! This is equal to the happiness of silkworm after it comes out of its cocoon achieving its target!)
 
Eh, the other players don't play all formats like Kohli, who's been working his rear off for 10 years. As a batsman, Kohli does inhuman amount of work. Captain of Test and ODI, being best batsman in test and second best in ODIs, and captain+ best batsman for IPL team all take their tolls. No other batsman had this much workload in cricket.

IPL is just batting practice session for him. Bowlers work much harder than batsmen. Bumrah is a case in point.
 
Eh, the other players don't play all formats like Kohli, who's been working his rear off for 10 years. As a batsman, Kohli does inhuman amount of work. Captain of Test and ODI, being best batsman in test and second best in ODIs, and captain+ best batsman for IPL team all take their tolls. No other batsman had this much workload in cricket.

Precisely why Kohli picks the series he plays in. He prioritizes ICC tournaments, Marquee test series and IPL. Heck he didn't even care about Asia cup last year. He takes care of his fitness.
 
The only reason Kohli hasn't scored a 100 in this WC is because Rohit is already doing that and by the Kohli comes it generally 25-30 overs late.


Such a poor quality thread.
 
the expectations on him are unreal. kohli is hardly a bradman after all.
Furthermore, cricket is a team game and performance of the team >>>> performance of an individual.
India is performing well as a team so there are no repercussions.

Only when the team performances fall down a cliff, do individual failures/successes matter
 
I never said that he is choking, to me it's just a dip in numbers, the impact created by him is still there, but still it is surprising to notice such patterns.

Kohli did well in the CT in 2013 and 2017. Also performed well in the last 2 World T20s. This WC he averages nearly 60.

Do the World T20 and CT not count as pressure tournaments/games?
 
Virat Kohli's average in three World Cup semi-finals is just 3.67.

9 vs Pakistan, 1 vs Australia, 1 vs NZ

(Mazhar Arshad)
 
What a horrible thread.

Kohli is already better than Viv and Tendu so we shouldn't analyze anything.

Stop being a hater ok.
 
The only reason Kohli hasn't scored a 100 in this WC is because Rohit is already doing that and by the Kohli comes it generally 25-30 overs late.


Such a poor quality thread.

Rohit got dismissed early today, so what stopped King Kohli from getting a ton?
 
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Look a hater here.

Never expected this from you.

Kohli is the GOAT.

He is GOAT there is no doubt about that and for me his better thn Sachin and AB just a little below King Viv. I just saw Mazhar posting this stat so shared it. I am sorry i didn't mean any anything.
 
He is GOAT there is no doubt about that and for me his better thn Sachin and AB just a little below King Viv. I just saw Mazhar posting this stat so shared it. I am sorry i didn't mean any anything.

Sigh.

My sarcasm failed.

Ghanta he is better than Viv and Sachin.
 
He is GOAT there is no doubt about that and for me his better thn Sachin and AB just a little below King Viv. I just saw Mazhar posting this stat so shared it. I am sorry i didn't mean any anything.

Sachin is definitely better than Kohli in World Cups.
 
Kohli did well in the CT in 2013 and 2017. Also performed well in the last 2 World T20s. This WC he averages nearly 60.

Do the World T20 and CT not count as pressure tournaments/games?

ODI World Cup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other ICC tournaments put together x 1000
 
Didn't deny that. But still can't say he is a complete failure under pressure.

TBH his stats say otherwise. Not saying he had a bad World Cup though, and he's not the only one who bottled in this match.

But his World Cup tournament elimination round record is absolutely terrible.

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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...e=results;trophy=12;type=batting;view=innings

6 innings and highest score of 35 runs. This is his 3rd World Cup, he will play at most 2 more. He's also supposed to be a GOAT contender alongside Viv, Tendulkar, Ponting and ABD, and World Cup is the pinnacle of LOIs.
 
TBH his stats say otherwise. Not saying he had a bad World Cup though, and he's not the only one who bottled in this match.

But his World Cup tournament elimination round record is absolutely terrible.

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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...e=results;trophy=12;type=batting;view=innings

6 innings and highest score of 35 runs. This is his 3rd World Cup, he will play at most 2 more. He's also supposed to be a GOAT contender alongside Viv, Tendulkar, Ponting and ABD, and World Cup is the pinnacle of LOIs.

Damning stats.
 
Big time disappointed in Kohli. Failed in 2015WC, 2017CT and 2019 semi when it mattered. If he was really a GOAT today was his chice to perform...Even as a fan I'd say he's no GOAT but definitely top 5
 
Kohli did well in the CT in 2013 and 2017. Also performed well in the last 2 World T20s. This WC he averages nearly 60.

Do the World T20 and CT not count as pressure tournaments/games?

These stats include CT
 
He will say Cape Town and Chennai are running short of water because of IPL.

He will say Brexit is happening because of IPL.

Not sure about that but I can safely say that we are out of the World Cup because Kohli once again failed when it mattered the most. :inti
 
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