Was Danish Kaneria treated fairly by the PCB?

[MenInG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1210959692794671106

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So we had the likes of Mohammad Amir not only allowed back into international cricket but also accepted in the side as if nothing had happened. Even Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif got to play with domestic sides and Butt is also part of a PSL side. All of them, bar Amir, initially refused to accept their guilt but changed under pressure.

And in more recent times, Sharjeel Khan has been allowed back and is all set to play for Karachi Kings in next PSL. So was Kaneria unfairly singled out? If so why?

 

[King-Misbah]

Danish Kaneria was banned by the ECB for match fixing. It would be rather foolish for PCB to allow him to feature in any form of cricket. It would spoil the relationship between PCB and ECB. Tbh, Kaneria is responsible for his own demise. He was earning a decent amount with Essex but he sold the county out for some money. He would have been an Essex legend now if he did not dwell on the wrong path.

 

[Sher Khan]

He wasnt treated unfairly by the PCB. ECB was the one that laid the charges against him. Him accepting his guilt earlier may have perhaps helped him play domestic cricket in Pakistan.

 

[trickyone]

PCB can't really do anything here, ECB banned him so he should be crying to them instead of PCB...

 

[BreadPakoda]

It’s true that Danish was not welcomed back to cricket with open arms like Amir, Sharjeel, and other fixers. However two wrongs don’t make a right.

In this regard, I respect Hafeez and Azhar for taking a stand against fixers.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

He was fairly treated by PCB. He himself to blame for anything.

he was also treated fairly while he was playing as being a Non muslim he played 60 odd test matches. he would not play that many games if someone was against his religion.

 

[FreePalestine]

I voted to say that he was ‘unfairly singled out’. However, I am convinced partially by some of the opposite points of view above... Whereas others got to play domestic cricket, Kaneria’s case was completely left adrift. However, two wrongs do not make a right. We should generally not allow fixers back into the domestic game... Amir was the only exception I was willing to accept, and I don’t really have strong rational reasons for that exception.

 

[Slog]

I think PCB was in a bind. Kaneria was banned by ECB and that translates to all official cricket which PCB had to abide to. The spot fixing were allowed back after their bans were over. Similarly sharjeel was dealt by pcb.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How can there be two types of punishment for the same crime?

ICC is to be blamed.

On one hand players fixing in international games are back playing.

While another player fixing in county is banned for life.

Kaneria or Sreesanth etc were hard done because they were lesser players, less privileged.

ICC should lay down the rules for punishment.

 

[Nadeem98]

To ensure fair treatment he should name the culprits right now and put it on PCB . Unfortunately though, he wants Akhtar to name them. Imagine the fallacy dripping off this whole narrative. He wants Akhtar to name the people who supposedly discriminated against him. What a joker!!!!!

 

[Slim]

To ensure fair treatment he should name the culprits right now and put it on PCB . Unfortunately though, he wants Akhtar to name them. Imagine the fallacy dripping off this whole narrative. He wants Akhtar to name the people who supposedly discriminated against him. What a joker!!!!!

Hahaha spot on, screams fake to me.

 

[Waleed93]

He was initially banned by the ECB, not the PCB.

As mentionned by many other posters, he has only himself to blame for his state.

Despite being a Hindu, he had already played over 60 Tests, even though he was a mediocre bowler overall, averaging 35 in the only format he used to play.

Inzamam even tried his best to give him a chance in ODIs, where he inevitably flopped. The PCB and the Pakistani team both gave him a longer rope than he actually deserved given his capabilities. They could have even given him a second chance after his fixing scandal, just like they gave one to Amir, but the fact was that he was not banned by the PCB.

Giving him a second chance would have put the PCB in trouble.

 

[Ronaldo7]

How can there be two types of punishment for the same crime?

ICC is to be blamed.

On one hand players fixing in international games are back playing.

While another player fixing in county is banned for life.

Kaneria or Sreesanth etc were hard done because they were lesser players, less privileged.

ICC should lay down the rules for punishment.

Lol. Don't try to play whatever card you're trying to play.

A murder also results in two types of punishments (In the SC):
Life imprisonment or the death sentence

Why?

Because there are a lot of factors that are taken into account. How many people were killed, was it intentional etc. etc.

Likewise for spot-fixing a lot of things are taken into consideration which is why Amir was banned for 5 years while Asif was banned for 7 and Salman was banned for 10.

This isn't a conspiracy against Kaneria lol

 

[MenInG]

PCB needs to stop sitting on the fence now and say something official.

 

[Captain caveman]

How can there be two types of punishment for the same crime?

ICC is to be blamed.

On one hand players fixing in international games are back playing.

While another player fixing in county is banned for life.

Kaneria or Sreesanth etc were hard done because they were lesser players, less privileged.

ICC should lay down the rules for punishment.

Ecb allegedy claimed danish was an organiser of fixing allegedy.
Whereas, amir and co were participants paid to fix a game allegedy and not organisers of cricket fixes.
Danish's allegeded crime is therefore a greater crime and is why he received a greater punishment i.e. life ban, i believe, allegedy.
Hence NOT the same crimes!

 

[sshakir411]

Kaneria faced the same bias other minorities in Pakistan face. There's enough out there on regional bias in Pakistan Cricket and how that plays a part. Being a Hindu obv didn't help but Kaneria got enough chances in test cricket and was rightfully dropped for not being able to perform. The last game I remember of Kaneria was when he got hammered for like 12 4s by Lara in 3 overs? Fact is he was making a good enough living post Pakistan test team for Essex and dropped the ball when he got caught fixing. Since then he might've been unfairly treated but you can't blame the PCB for not supporting you if you got caught fixing after 2010.

 

[PakLFC]

Not sure what Danni wants the PCB to do. He made his bed, accepted cheating after initially repeatedly denying all charges of doing so. The PCB should have supported him in playing domestic Cricket in Pak if they've not done so already. Keeping in mind the treatment of Asif, Butt and Amir received from the PCB their could be a religious angle to it as well.

 

[MenInG]

KARACHI:
The Sindh High Court has upheld the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) ban on cricketer Danish Kaneria.

The right-arm leg spinner faces lifetime ban after being found involved in spot-fixing the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB),

Kaneria, who played for the Pakistan national side from 2000 to 2010, has moved the court seeking permission to play domestic and league cricket. A bench headed by Chief Justice Sindh High Court Justice Ahmed Ali Sheikh rejected the application of former cricketer.

The petitioner’s counsel had argued that Kaneria should be allowed to join the PCB rehabilitation programme. “My client did not commit spot-fixing. He just got a meeting held between the players and the match fixers, to which he has already confessed,” the counsel said.

He pointed out that players who were actually the spot fixers have been allowed to play but Kaneria is not being given permission. Domestic matches and coaching should be allowed, the counsel contended.

The PCB’s counsel had argued that Kaneria had been banned by the English County Club.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2338622/shc-upholds-pcb-ban-on-danish-kaneria

 

[Savak]

Let's face it, the only reason Kaneria is not approaching the ECB and the English judicial system is because he knows he has burnt all his bridges with them. He knows the ECB for starters will demand he repay $500,000 in legal costs (which he does not have) and only then will they think about showing some compassion towards him. He is well and truly screwed, he played his cards wrong from the beginning with some very dumb decision making

 

[MenInG]

New Delhi: Former Pakistan leg-spinner, Danish Kaneria, said on Friday he is feeling “humiliated” and “dejected” after the Sindh High Court rejected his appeal seeking directions to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to include him in their rehabilitation programme for players found guilty of corruption.

Kaneria was banned for life by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in 2012 for his involvement in spot-fixing attempts in county cricket in 2009. The PCB then ratified the ECB life-ban on Kaneria the same year and also banned him from all cricket activities in the country. Also Read - Cricketer Abid Ali Begins Rehabilitation After Undergoing Angioplasty

Kaneria wanted the Sindh court to direct the PCB to allow him to undergo “rehabilitation programme”, so that he could return to the sport in the capacity of coach. Also Read - Virat Kohli Needs to Focus on His Game, Rather Than Inciting Controversies: Danish Kaneria

A positive outcome on January 12 would have helped the 41-year-old Kaneria to pursue coaching roles in domestic and international tournaments without the fear of the PCB stopping him if he landed a job.

“I am feeling dejected, heartbroken and disappointed with this judgment. I don’t know how I will earn my bread and butter now. I appeal for my livelihood. I was not sure that my case has been dismissed like this. It’s been almost a year and now I appeal for humanity… when many got a reprieve in the same case, why not me (sic),” Kaneria told to IANS on Friday.

“Respected judges have given the verdict. I don’t know on what ground they have made this decision, but it’s really heartbroken for me. I requested almost everyone to let me free, but don’t know who and what stops them (sic).

“I just wanted them to give me a second chance, so I can again start my career, earn for livelihood but my all efforts went up in smoke. It’s been 10 years now. And I am still serving the (ECB) ban. Many cricketers who did the same thing are roaming free and doing their work, but I am still running pillar to post for justice (sic),” a veteran of 61 Tests told to IANS.

Asked, if anyone was to blame for his bad phase in life, the 41-year-old said, “I don’t want to blame anyone. I believe in God, but yes in Pakistan nobody wants to hear my points. PCB is not doing anything for me. I am a citizen of Pakistan, have given so many years to Pak cricket. I feel very bad about myself when I think about PCB. Why they are not supporting me, reason only they know. I made a request for a reprieve on humanitarian grounds, but it has been rejected. I think this is an outrageous, illegal, and inhuman approach. I am feeling totally devastated now.”

Kaneria, who is quite vocal on the social media platforms, wrote an emotional message on Koo to the panel that heard his petition.

“The honourable and most respected Panel of Sindh High Court has rejected my appeal. My plea was on humanitarian ground as my sole source of income has vastly been affected. I’ve served Pakistan with due utmost honesty and I’m sad and disappointed to know that my plea to undergo the rehab program has been quashed. I am human all got second chance why not me is that because I am different,” the former Pakistan leg-spinner wrote.

https://www.india.com/sports/i-feel...neria-after-sindh-high-court-verdict-5186462/

 

[Savak]

New Delhi: Former Pakistan leg-spinner, Danish Kaneria, said on Friday he is feeling “humiliated” and “dejected” after the Sindh High Court rejected his appeal seeking directions to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to include him in their rehabilitation programme for players found guilty of corruption.

Kaneria was banned for life by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in 2012 for his involvement in spot-fixing attempts in county cricket in 2009. The PCB then ratified the ECB life-ban on Kaneria the same year and also banned him from all cricket activities in the country. Also Read - Cricketer Abid Ali Begins Rehabilitation After Undergoing Angioplasty

Kaneria wanted the Sindh court to direct the PCB to allow him to undergo “rehabilitation programme”, so that he could return to the sport in the capacity of coach. Also Read - Virat Kohli Needs to Focus on His Game, Rather Than Inciting Controversies: Danish Kaneria

A positive outcome on January 12 would have helped the 41-year-old Kaneria to pursue coaching roles in domestic and international tournaments without the fear of the PCB stopping him if he landed a job.

“I am feeling dejected, heartbroken and disappointed with this judgment. I don’t know how I will earn my bread and butter now. I appeal for my livelihood. I was not sure that my case has been dismissed like this. It’s been almost a year and now I appeal for humanity… when many got a reprieve in the same case, why not me (sic),” Kaneria told to IANS on Friday.

“Respected judges have given the verdict. I don’t know on what ground they have made this decision, but it’s really heartbroken for me. I requested almost everyone to let me free, but don’t know who and what stops them (sic).

“I just wanted them to give me a second chance, so I can again start my career, earn for livelihood but my all efforts went up in smoke. It’s been 10 years now. And I am still serving the (ECB) ban. Many cricketers who did the same thing are roaming free and doing their work, but I am still running pillar to post for justice (sic),” a veteran of 61 Tests told to IANS.

Asked, if anyone was to blame for his bad phase in life, the 41-year-old said, “I don’t want to blame anyone. I believe in God, but yes in Pakistan nobody wants to hear my points. PCB is not doing anything for me. I am a citizen of Pakistan, have given so many years to Pak cricket. I feel very bad about myself when I think about PCB. Why they are not supporting me, reason only they know. I made a request for a reprieve on humanitarian grounds, but it has been rejected. I think this is an outrageous, illegal, and inhuman approach. I am feeling totally devastated now.”

Kaneria, who is quite vocal on the social media platforms, wrote an emotional message on Koo to the panel that heard his petition.

“The honourable and most respected Panel of Sindh High Court has rejected my appeal. My plea was on humanitarian ground as my sole source of income has vastly been affected. I’ve served Pakistan with due utmost honesty and I’m sad and disappointed to know that my plea to undergo the rehab program has been quashed. I am human all got second chance why not me is that because I am different,” the former Pakistan leg-spinner wrote.

https://www.india.com/sports/i-feel...neria-after-sindh-high-court-verdict-5186462/

Is it very hard for Kaneria to understand that he needs to approach the ECB? They are the ones who banned him and if they decide to lift his ban, only then will the PCB follow suite. Deep down he knows if he approaches the ECB, they will hold him to ransom ie reimburse them the 325,000 pounds in legal and court fees in exchange for lifting the ban and allowing him to coach for his livelihood, where is he going to find the 325,000 pounds from?

He is well and truly screwed

 

[Babeikh]

Another person who allowed greed and corruption to destroy his career.

Was not treated harshly. Got what he deserved.

 

[shaz619]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1210959692794671106

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So we had the likes of Mohammad Amir not only allowed back into international cricket but also accepted in the side as if nothing had happened. Even Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif got to play with domestic sides and Butt is also part of a PSL side. All of them, bar Amir, initially refused to accept their guilt but changed under pressure.

And in more recent times, Sharjeel Khan has been allowed back and is all set to play for Karachi Kings in next PSL. So was Kaneria unfairly singled out? If so why?

Kaneria had a great career despite being treated unfairly by big teeth Kamran Akmal. Think about the sort of dressing room Kaneria plated under to. I would bash Kami every day if I was Kaneria, his energies would be much better utilised.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Danish Kaneria not looking happy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738611647391162774

 

[MenInG]

Danish Kaneria not looking happy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738611647391162774

A few things

Also I do not believe PCB tweeted this

The image was done by Rashid Latif in a tweet who obviously, does not represent PCB
India media as usual jumping on to this

 

[Hextro]

Danish Kaneria not looking happy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738611647391162774

This guy has found an audience among low-IQ trolls. I know he didn't receive a formal education but it's not hard to understand that the list is based on bowling averages, not total wickets.

Guys like Kaneria are a disgrace. The fixer shouldn't have gotten the opportunities he did.

 

[Bewal Express]

He fixed Matches like Butt etc and deserved a life ban. Absolute loser

 

[MenInG]

His IQ was never one to talk about but lately has gone from bad to worse.

 

[gazza619]

I don’t think it is right to insult players based on IQ level. A lot of these guys come from very humble backgrounds and perhaps lacked nutrition when they were growing.

Kaneria made mistake so did many other people.

Unfortunately Kaneria was treated differently.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

His IQ was never one to talk about but lately has gone from bad to worse.

Heard he's already got his desired sponsored visa in US, where he'll emigrate. I guess the condition of his sponsorship was to continue to bash Pakistan Cricket throughout.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I don’t think it is right to insult players based on IQ level. A lot of these guys come from very humble backgrounds and perhaps lacked nutrition when they were growing.

Kaneria made mistake so did many other people.

Unfortunately Kaneria was treated differently.

Quite difficult for PCB to have done something when he got a life ban from ECB (with their prosecution and everything). Had PCB not banned him, it would have looked worse on them and would have seemed like a board that tolerates having fixers. Bringing back Amir didn't do them many favors and Amir shouldn't have been given the prima donna treatment.

 

[MenInG]

Heard he's already got his desired sponsored visa in US, where he'll emigrate. I guess the condition of his sponsorship was to continue to bash Pakistan Cricket throughout.

He has a criminal record?

From US Gov site:

Arrest, Caution, Conviction

In cases where an arrest resulted in a conviction, you may be permanently ineligible to receive a visa and will require a waiver ineligibility to travel to the United States. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to United States visa law.

But am sure India has no such laws.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

He has a criminal record?

From US Gov site:

Arrest, Caution, Conviction

In cases where an arrest resulted in a conviction, you may be permanently ineligible to receive a visa and will require a waiver ineligibility to travel to the United States. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to United States visa law.

But am sure India has no such laws.

No idea how much of a life ban counts as criminal record and how strong his visa sponsors are to get him a waiver. Even Amir has obtained or is going to obtain UK citizenship despite being a juvenile offender there.

 

[MenInG]

No idea how much of a life ban counts as criminal record and how strong his visa sponsors are to get him a waiver. Even Amir has obtained or is going to obtain UK citizenship despite being a juvenile offender there.

Unless Kaneria has lied, there is a simple question on the form which asks if you have ever been convicted.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Unless Kaneria has lied, there is a simple question on the form which asks if you have ever been convicted.

Can't say how valid the report is about him having obtained a US visa. Just stating what I read on twitter some time back when Sohaib Maqsood-Kaneria tweet exchange took place. There is also a chance he could have applied for asylum.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

This guy wants to be in lime light somehow but never get any attention.

He is now losing some remaining respect by giving such statements.

 

[Major]

I don’t think it is right to insult players based on IQ level. A lot of these guys come from very humble backgrounds and perhaps lacked nutrition when they were growing.

Kaneria made mistake so did many other people.

Unfortunately Kaneria was treated differently.

no he was not treated differently.

Kaneria was not banned by PCB. Kaneria was banned by England, and ICC states that if one board bans a cricketer for fixing, than all boards need to oblige that ban.

Thankfully, England gave him a lifetime ban which is why he could had not return. He could had reduce that lifetime ban had he admitted what he did.

PCB has nothing to do with Kaneria's ban and PCB could had done nothing about it.

Kaneria should be picking fights with ECB not PCB. Either Kaneria knows this, or he truly has a low IQ. Because ever since video content has got famous, Kaneria created a niche for himself where he claims he got mistreated by PCB by using the Hindu Victim card. India media and Indian fans view and spread his videos the most, and this has given Kaneria an income.

Indians who talk rubbish about Aamir for fixing wont do so against Kaneria and use him as a reference because he spreads hate and uses the Hindu victim card.