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Off course not. It was a very wrong decision to bowl as like BD did against England.
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Was it the right option to choose to bowl first against India?
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Pakistan team has been struggling to take wickets at any stage of the inning. This simple fact should have been pondered upon before making bowling-first decision. On the other hand, team had been batting well and won the only match against England by batting first and putting them under scoreboard pressure. So, no it has not been the right decision not just in this match but also against Australia as well.
But such important facts will not figure in the plans of Sarf.
It would have been a right decision if Hassan had been bowling with test-matchlike line an lengths and discipline and spinners had the confidence to pitch the ball up without the fear of getting hit. These are the facts which were evident enough times to prompt Sarf and team management to rely on the batting first strategy.
But such important facts will not figure in the plans of Sarf.
It would have been a right decision if Hassan had been bowling with test-matchlike line an lengths and discipline and spinners had the confidence to pitch the ball up without the fear of getting hit. These are the facts which were evident enough times to prompt Sarf and team management to rely on the batting first strategy.
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Nothing summed up Sarfraz's clueless captaincy up more than this decision. Even if we ignore that Pakistan has historically been a poor team chasing any half decent score, he seems to have had no idea about his own bowlers.
Did it not register in the past 12 months that his new ball bowlers have been bowling trash? I mean seriously, did he think they were somehow magically going to start bowling outswingers on off stump?
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It’s shocking when fans are able out strategise the teams management. There was no clarity of thought and no clear direction for a plan B for this game. Even plan A was wrong. After winning the toss they should not have tried to be so clever in thinking about D/L or how Amir will reinact that spell from 2017. Did they really think the Indian batsmen will fall for the same thing again? Did they honestly think they are so a bunch of buzdils who haven’t done their homework? Did they honestly think Amir will suddenly start swinging the ball?
There are many frustrations from yesterday’s match. Winning the toss and playing to the oppositions strength and against your own? When has the team ever chased or performed well in a pressure situation? Why now? Even the previous match against Australia they capitulated under the pressure of a chase. Then much like their batting they were unable to form any bowling partnerships. Amir was very good as his figures show but the other end had pure rubbish being sent down from Hassan Ali. Why was it not made clear to him to pitch the ball up? And if it was simply that he was not executing plans then this is Sarfarazs role as captain. He just doesn’t appear to have a grip or any robe over the team. The fielding was terrible from some very big personalities. Mr Experience and Mr Automatic Selection fumbling and being put under pressure by the batting teams fitness between the wickets. I’m not sure what this fitness crusade has brought about because they all seem like average atheletes. In fact i think the fittest player was Junaid Khan but he’s eating sour grapes back home.
Then comes the batting. I cannot fathom how a bunch of international players can not rotate the strike 3-4 times every over then hit the bad balls for 4 and six. This is what every team is doing. They simply don’t look interested in rotating the strike. On the off chance they do take singles then boundaries dry up. It’s a binary relationship and tortuous to watch. Comparisons of Babar with kohli are utterly laughable. There’s a gulf of class and ability between the two. Babar is not even near Kane or Joe or Dhawan let alone Kohli.
I feel the team needs a massive reality check. A CT win and group stage victory over England together with their T20 ranking has inflated their egos and perception. The T20 ranking won’t last forever and regardless it’s not real cricket and this is evident when the same bunch get exposed time and again in the longer formats.
Our best ODI batsman in Azhar Ali was allowed to retire. One of our main strike bowlers was not selected in favour of some kids who could never be ready for this level of cricket. It’s just shameful and very disappointing for the fans who have so much passion.
Personally I only see the josh and jazba in three players. Hafeez, Amir and Wahab. The rest are spineless and look disinterested.
My recommendation would be to drop Sarfaraz as a point to others. He can come back when fit, no longer sleepy and is scoring hundreds at test level.
There are many frustrations from yesterday’s match. Winning the toss and playing to the oppositions strength and against your own? When has the team ever chased or performed well in a pressure situation? Why now? Even the previous match against Australia they capitulated under the pressure of a chase. Then much like their batting they were unable to form any bowling partnerships. Amir was very good as his figures show but the other end had pure rubbish being sent down from Hassan Ali. Why was it not made clear to him to pitch the ball up? And if it was simply that he was not executing plans then this is Sarfarazs role as captain. He just doesn’t appear to have a grip or any robe over the team. The fielding was terrible from some very big personalities. Mr Experience and Mr Automatic Selection fumbling and being put under pressure by the batting teams fitness between the wickets. I’m not sure what this fitness crusade has brought about because they all seem like average atheletes. In fact i think the fittest player was Junaid Khan but he’s eating sour grapes back home.
Then comes the batting. I cannot fathom how a bunch of international players can not rotate the strike 3-4 times every over then hit the bad balls for 4 and six. This is what every team is doing. They simply don’t look interested in rotating the strike. On the off chance they do take singles then boundaries dry up. It’s a binary relationship and tortuous to watch. Comparisons of Babar with kohli are utterly laughable. There’s a gulf of class and ability between the two. Babar is not even near Kane or Joe or Dhawan let alone Kohli.
I feel the team needs a massive reality check. A CT win and group stage victory over England together with their T20 ranking has inflated their egos and perception. The T20 ranking won’t last forever and regardless it’s not real cricket and this is evident when the same bunch get exposed time and again in the longer formats.
Our best ODI batsman in Azhar Ali was allowed to retire. One of our main strike bowlers was not selected in favour of some kids who could never be ready for this level of cricket. It’s just shameful and very disappointing for the fans who have so much passion.
Personally I only see the josh and jazba in three players. Hafeez, Amir and Wahab. The rest are spineless and look disinterested.
My recommendation would be to drop Sarfaraz as a point to others. He can come back when fit, no longer sleepy and is scoring hundreds at test level.
Toss may be an issue but no flexibility in batting line up is an issue. When Babar was out, Malik should have walked in as he is the best player of spin in the team. Sarfaraz is a dumb captain and also playing himself above Malik shows his insecurity
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The biggest issue is the the team and it’s management are delusional about what they can and can’t do.
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Truth be told, Pakistani bowlers need score board pressure to become potent. But the Phattus in Pakistan team management wet their pants as soon as they see a bit of grass on the wicket even if it is dead grass. What a bunch of cowards through and through! No heart whatsoever.
Unproffessional, unhealthy and mediocre. The lot of them.
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The toss decision wouldn't have made a bean of difference in the result.
If anything, Pakistan had it easier winning the toss when the pitch was fresh and the skies overcast, and that feeling it could be a shortened game (which is always hard for the team batting first to know how to approach it when rain is around).
In spite of all that India absolutely mauled them, which is to be expected since they are a much stronger side.
If anything, Pakistan had it easier winning the toss when the pitch was fresh and the skies overcast, and that feeling it could be a shortened game (which is always hard for the team batting first to know how to approach it when rain is around).
In spite of all that India absolutely mauled them, which is to be expected since they are a much stronger side.
Wouldn't have made any difference to our chances. Regardless of the toss, if you bowl tripe, can't rotate the strike, collapse at the first sign of adversity and most importantly don't avail opportunities when they present themselves you are never going to win matches against top teams like India.
The decision to bowl first wasn't wrong considering the conditions and the ever looming threat of rain. However, Hasan and Wahab threw away any advantage we had with their rubbish bowling. And then we failed to get a crucial run out which could have significantly altered the course of the game.
Also the bat first advocates are underestimating the opposition's strengths. Bhuvi and Bumrah would never have bowled the dross that Wahab and Hasan served in their first spells and it is likely that their batting would have come out on top in a rain curtailed match.
The decision to bowl first wasn't wrong considering the conditions and the ever looming threat of rain. However, Hasan and Wahab threw away any advantage we had with their rubbish bowling. And then we failed to get a crucial run out which could have significantly altered the course of the game.
Also the bat first advocates are underestimating the opposition's strengths. Bhuvi and Bumrah would never have bowled the dross that Wahab and Hasan served in their first spells and it is likely that their batting would have come out on top in a rain curtailed match.
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