Pakistan did not refuse, India was not going to give visas to the pakistani players.
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Pakistan did not refuse, India was not going to give visas to the pakistani players.
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Pakistan has history of team getting attacked.
Every cricket team bar Pakistan has toured India, without any issues, while pakistan has had to work very hard to even get smaller teams to tour, so its better that you dont compare security of both nations.
India will not tour, bevause of the same reason Australia or England or NZ havent toured.
The same reason ITF shifted the Davis cup matches.
Oh and Bcci is not Bcb, pcb cannot arm twist bcci.
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IPL teams dont take Pakistani players simply bevause they dont want to deal with PCB and because pakistani players wont be granted visas.
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Who said anything about pakistani players not being safe in India? Where do you discover these things?
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More likely the WT20 will go ahead without pakistan.
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In 2011 WC:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-final-involving-Pakistan/article15448113.ece
https://tribune.com.pk/story/137011/terrorism-threat-in-india-during-world-cup-malik/
https://sports.ndtv.com/world-cup-2...threat-on-wc-final-involving-pakistan-1575523
PP Discussion thread from that time:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ams-under-terror-threat-warns-security-expert
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Without India participate Asia Cup can't go ahead but without Pakistan World T20 WC will happen in India .that's bitter truth
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After this Pakistan travelled to India. Twice. Lol.
So no. India doesn't take Pakistanis in IPL because of safety but because they dont want to deal with PCB and secondly its highly unlikely that pakistanis will get a visa.
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Pak travelling to India after that doesnt mean threats are not there. Just like any other team Pak has every right to say of it doesnt feel comfortable due to Indian extremists.
Unlikely Pakistanis will get visa? So you are saying that Pak players wont get visa to India even for World T20 and ICC will sit quiet as always?
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Problem is that no one is complaining about any security issues in India.
Pakistan is an isolated case here.
Getting visa for T20 WC is one thing, they got for 2016 WC. But to get work visas to earn money in India is near impossible.
Indian reasoning for not traveling to Pakistan has always been about politics. Why are you changing BCCI's own statements here?
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If the ICC wants to host the WT20 without Pakistan, let them do it.
Pakistan should stick to it's stance, and not travel to India under ANY circumstances.
Pakistan should stick to it's stance, and not travel to India under ANY circumstances.
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Where am i changing any statement?
BCCI's reason is no govt permission.
Govt can deny permission for various reasons. Security being one of them.
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PCB must convey this to ICC.
By Wasim Khans own statement PCB has no such stance.
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What will Pakistan cricket and it's fans gain from opting out of the World T20, other than the ego factor? Let's leave ego aside, do you rationally see anything positive happening if Pakistan opts out?
Indian government specifically have mentioned politics. You are bringing security concerns as if they have mentioned them before.
It would be fine if Pakistan's games are hosted outside India.
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That would never happen.
BCCI would forego the host rights and not participate in the T20 WC than give into PCB's arm twisting.
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Indian govt has given out a official statement? Where?
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Pakistan may say that they will not go to India and matches should be in neutral venue.
They will try it as a pressure tactics to force India to resume bilateral ties. Or as is evident by Mani's statement they are trying to portray India as unsafe and put India in the same boat as Pakistan.
BCCI may tell ICC that if hosting rights are taken away, Indian team wont play the T20 WC.
ICC will have to decide which team is the bigger loss.
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Given that india gave up its asia cup last time and played in uae to accomodate pakistan, pak should also do the same.
Even better, pcb should check with bcb if asia cup can be hosted there.
Will be a small step towards getting the asian block together again.
Even better, pcb should check with bcb if asia cup can be hosted there.
Will be a small step towards getting the asian block together again.
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Threats are and have been targetted against Pak team. No other team was asked by Indian extremists that we will see if we will allow them to play in Mumbai or not along with other threats.
India is also an isolated case when it comes to Asia Cup’s stance as Srl and BD have just toured and they are fine while Afghanistan hasnt given any statement as of yet.
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It's not about ego anymore. The political scenario between the two countries is dire at the moment. India should not travel to Pakistan, and vice versa for Pakistan travelling to India. Status quo should be maintained.
When BCCI is making it clear that India touring Pakistan is out of the question, PCB should be firm in their original stance too. Getting clearance from government to tour India should be out of the question, untill the situation improves.
I, personally, would honestly lose a lot of respect for the PCB/Pakistan government if we tour India next year. They already have negligible respect as is.
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Wasim Khan is nobody to decide if Pakistan should tour India or not. The matter is firmly in the hands of the Pakistan government. PCB will have to adhere to what they say, and there is no chance the government gives the cricket team the clearance to tour India.
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InshaAllah IK would do what he would have done as the true captain of Pakistan that he was
Pak won’t tour India in 2021 for the wc
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remind me again why Pakistani umpires and commentators were cornered by RSS goons and star sports had to cancel their contracts with Pakistani commentators. If there is any law in India and extremists are not in charge of India then why PSL was banned in India and why did Pakistani diplomats were given death threats by RSS goons to leave India.
Do I have to remind you how PCB chairman SHK was cornered by RSS extremists when he came to BCCI office for talks on bilateral series. If he can't be safe from extrmists of India then how can you guarantee Pakistani players won't have any issues?
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That would be epic. I can already see things going that way. BCCI has opened a Pandora box with these statements. Now PCB should just copy them.
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If any country doesn't tour Pakistan then they are called as jokers??
Why there are no Pakistan tours from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
When India hosted its league in South Africa and could'nt provide security to international players due to govt.refusal. The Govt. and BCCI were also called cowards and greedy.
England, South Africa and Australia have not PLANNED to disrupt and damage Pakistan cricket like Indians, have played Pakistan on other venues. Indian jokers first made excuse that they can't play on neutral venues than they cried that our govt. has only given permission to play Pakistan team in ICC tournaments. Last year Indian adminstrator made a fool of himself in banning Pakistan from cricket in an ICC meet where no such laws are drafted. To belittle Pakistan Indians have made themselves a joke upon whom the whole world laughs.
If India does'nt come then Pakistan should and likely will ask ICC to provideneutral venue for the group matches in Bangladesh or UAE. Pakistan Govt. should also take a stand Pakistani cricketers are not safe in India.
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What do you mean by cornered? No one was within a long distance from Pakistanis. They didnot want pakistanis in Mumbai and that's it.
Pakistan wont be playing matches in Mumbai.
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2009 was an election year. The largest election in the world. Since then India has hosted the IPL in India in 2019 in election year and all went well.
FYI every team tours India.
Pakistan came to India in 2016 and Hockey team too played in India in 2018.
BCCI isnt shifting the venue. If ICC forces it, they will be playing a T20 WC without India.
Leave the fact that Indian team and its performance in world cricket in last few years, the sponsors and Broadcasters will eat ICC alive if ICC takes away the biggest market.
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Likely wont happen and thats why Wasim Khan issued his clarification.
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I am sorry this is moving slightly away from cricket and into politics, but isn't it strange? Shiv Sena which opposed Pakistan players to play in Mumbai is in power with Congress party which is the counterpart of BJP. So which way do you think it will go if PCB agrees to play in India, Mumbai especially?
Then I think ICC should be fine with that. If Pakistan government doesn't give team the permission to tour India, I don't see how India can have it both ways. Pakistan faces security concerns in India that other countries don't and it would be reasonable to deny touring India on those grounds. Although I don't know what reasoning GoP would use.
So you agree they haven't used security issues as a reason not to tour Pakistan?
He said he never made the comments in the first place.
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According to another website, that quote was actually:
"Maybe two venues for these circumstances. When we are supposed to go to India for the 2021 ICC T20 World Cup, we also might face a reverse situation because of the safety and uncertainty on players' visas. But we are confident that things will ease out over the period of time."
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ICC made Aus WI Eng forfeit points for not playing WC matched in SL and ZIM.
And they will take away India's rights for Pakistan? Lets see if that happens.
GOI gives its reasons to BCCI or not even to them.
I said specifically just moving Pakistan's games. Rest of the games can be played in India.
What happened 25 years ago isn't necessarily going to be a precedent. They seem to OK with government permission (or lack of) for not having teams tour certain countries.
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cornered? "In October 2015, Shiv Sena activists barged into the headquarters of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) in Mumbai, chanting anti-Pakistan slogans and stopping a scheduled meeting between BCCI president Shashank Manohar and the Pakistan Cricket Board's Shahryar Khan and Najam Sethi." This is the head of the PCB.
RSS goons have previously been involved with tempering the pitch.
You mention Mumbai like it's only Mumbai where these goons are uncontrollable. If that's the case then why have your board having hard time getting a bilateral series in other cities? Also your argument is about RSS at Mumbai doing all kinds of things when they were not in the govt. and Mumbai was their stronghold but now they they control the whole country. They are led by anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistani Modi.
Pakistan has a better case not to tour india from every point of view.
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After all the grandstanding over Asia Cup hosting, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is understood to have agreed to host the Asia Cup in UAE. The tough talk from across the border, it turns out, was only posturing.
ABoard of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) official has told Mirror that the BCCI’s understanding is that the tournament will be held in Dubai, tentatively in September, just before the start of the World Twenty20 in Australia.
Pakistan is the designated venue of the tournament, just like India was in 2018. But in view of the diplomatic tensions between the countries, the tournament was staged in UAE two years back and the same is expected this year.
“If India doesn't come to Pakistan for the Asia Cup, we would also refuse participation in the 2021 T20 World Cup there,” Wasim Khan said recently.
But BCCI official said that the PCB would never go to the extent of boycotting an ICC even as the PCB has a good equation with the world body. “Our understanding is that the Asia Cup matter is resolved, and the neutral venue will be finalised at the ACC meeting,” the BCCI official said.
When contacted, PCB chief Ehasan Mani strove to brush aside the query. “It is an ACC matter and the venue will be decided at the ACC meeting,” Ehsan Mani told Mirror yesterday.
More than Asia Cup venue, the BCCI has to worry over its representation at the ACC meeting. The BCCI AGM has not decided who will represent it at the global fora. Generally, two officials from BCCI attend the meetings. Jay Shah has been nominated for the CEO meetings of the ICC and it can be expected that he will be one to go there. There is no clarity still on the second person.
BCCI has asked the SCto clarify on this and should the meeting be held before the apex court hearing, the BCCI will have to take a call on its representative, most likely Sourav Ganguly.
RP Singh in CIC
Meanwhile, the BCCI announced RP Singh as a member of the Cricket Advisory Committee (CAC) that will also have Madan Lal and Sulakshana Kulkarni. The CAC will decide on the next senior selection committee. The date of the CAC meeting will be finalised after shortlisting of the applications is done.
BCCI said the three-member committee will have a term of one year. It is a shift from the expected position of forming the committee for only one meeting. Madan Lal was a member of the 1983 World Cup-winning side, while RP was part of the squad that won the World Twenty20 in 2007. Naik played two Tests, 46 ODIs and 31T20Is in a career spanning 11years.
https://punemirror.indiatimes.com/s...-the-asia-cup-in-uae/articleshow/73816155.cms
ABoard of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) official has told Mirror that the BCCI’s understanding is that the tournament will be held in Dubai, tentatively in September, just before the start of the World Twenty20 in Australia.
Pakistan is the designated venue of the tournament, just like India was in 2018. But in view of the diplomatic tensions between the countries, the tournament was staged in UAE two years back and the same is expected this year.
“If India doesn't come to Pakistan for the Asia Cup, we would also refuse participation in the 2021 T20 World Cup there,” Wasim Khan said recently.
But BCCI official said that the PCB would never go to the extent of boycotting an ICC even as the PCB has a good equation with the world body. “Our understanding is that the Asia Cup matter is resolved, and the neutral venue will be finalised at the ACC meeting,” the BCCI official said.
When contacted, PCB chief Ehasan Mani strove to brush aside the query. “It is an ACC matter and the venue will be decided at the ACC meeting,” Ehsan Mani told Mirror yesterday.
More than Asia Cup venue, the BCCI has to worry over its representation at the ACC meeting. The BCCI AGM has not decided who will represent it at the global fora. Generally, two officials from BCCI attend the meetings. Jay Shah has been nominated for the CEO meetings of the ICC and it can be expected that he will be one to go there. There is no clarity still on the second person.
BCCI has asked the SCto clarify on this and should the meeting be held before the apex court hearing, the BCCI will have to take a call on its representative, most likely Sourav Ganguly.
RP Singh in CIC
Meanwhile, the BCCI announced RP Singh as a member of the Cricket Advisory Committee (CAC) that will also have Madan Lal and Sulakshana Kulkarni. The CAC will decide on the next senior selection committee. The date of the CAC meeting will be finalised after shortlisting of the applications is done.
BCCI said the three-member committee will have a term of one year. It is a shift from the expected position of forming the committee for only one meeting. Madan Lal was a member of the 1983 World Cup-winning side, while RP was part of the squad that won the World Twenty20 in 2007. Naik played two Tests, 46 ODIs and 31T20Is in a career spanning 11years.
https://punemirror.indiatimes.com/s...-the-asia-cup-in-uae/articleshow/73816155.cms
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Will the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) host the Asia Cup in Pakistan or shift it to a neutral venue — the United Arab Emirates? For the last few days, this seems to be the subject of discussion in cricketing circles.
Even though there hasn’t yet been any official word, it has been learned that the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) may not travel to Pakistan for the tournament owing to security concerns.
Speaking to Sportstar on Friday, PCB chairman Ehsan Mani made it clear that the Board will wait for the Asian Cricket Council meeting — scheduled to be held later this month or in early March — to get a clearer picture on the issue. “We will discuss the matter jointly, same as we decided last time (in 2018), when India had to host the Asia Cup in the UAE as they could not guarantee visas for Pakistan players,” Mani said.
Mani, who has previously headed the International Cricket Council, was confident that all the boards will take a collective decision “in the best interest of Asian cricket.”
Excerpts from an interview…
Q. Over the last few months, international cricket has returned to Pakistan with teams like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka touring the country. How do you see that?
A. It’s long overdue. Countries have been reluctant to visit Pakistan for a long time. For the last few years, there have been no reasons to be reluctant. But with anything like this invariably, they come expecting security change, they talk to their embassies. They realise that Pakistan is a safe country in the world. In fact, now when they come, they feel there is too much security.
This year, the entire Pakistan Super League will be held in the country. Do you think it will be a game changing moment for the sport in Pakistan?
The proof in the pudding is in the eating! We had over 425 overseas players applying for the drafts of the PSL. The PSL owners chose 40 of them, which is only 10 per cent. But the fact is 425 overseas players had applied for the spots. That in itself in a strong indication of how things are.
This time the Asia Cup has been allotted to Pakistan. With India expressing security concerns, there is no clarity on whether the matches will be held there…
We are the host this time as per the Asian Cricket Council policies. This is an Asian Cricket Council event, and when we have the next meeting, we will collectively decide about it. It’s not about India or Pakistan, it’s the Asian countries as a whole, who will decide where the tournament will be hosted. We don’t have any issues with it. Had it been an India-Pakistan series, [it would have been a different matter]. It’s not that case. Here we will take a collective decision as responsible people, looking after Asian cricket.
As far as hosting India is concerned, we don’t have any bilateral series scheduled. In terms of the Asia Cup, it is entirely ACC’s matter. We will discuss the matter jointly, same as we decided last time (in 2018), when India had to host the Asia Cup in the UAE as they could not guarantee visas for Pakistan players.
In case India doesn’t get clearances to tour Pakistan, is the PCB ready to host the entire tournament or India-specific matches in a neutral venue?
I won’t comment on that because the BCCI has not been in touch with us. When we discuss it at the ACC meeting, we will talk about that. I don’t want to speculate at the moment.
When can we get a clarity on the issue? When is the ACC meeting next to address the concerns?
I believe, it should be scheduled in end of February or early March. I am still waiting for the final dates. The current chief of the ACC is Najmul Hasan Papon and he will decide on the date and let the members know.
BCCI president Sourav Ganguly completed 100 days in office on Friday. When he took charge, most of the boards believed that a cricketer at the helm will provide a big boost for the game. As far as the PCB is concerned, how has been the equation so far?
When Sourav got appointed, I wrote a letter to him congratulating him and stated that I would be looking forward to meeting him at the international level for the betterment of the game. I haven’t heard anything back from him. But he is a great player and has great contribution to the game — both as a player and as captain of India. My only interest, which I think every cricket lover has, is to put the game of cricket beyond politics. As long as he works for the betterment of the game, I look forward to working with him.
What about Pakistan touring India for next year’s T20 World Cup?
As far as that’s concerned, it’s between the BCCI and the ICC. Being the host country, it is up to the BCCI to guarantee visas for the visiting countries. It’s between them to sit and sort all that out.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...n-cricket-council-meeting/article30711753.ece
Even though there hasn’t yet been any official word, it has been learned that the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) may not travel to Pakistan for the tournament owing to security concerns.
Speaking to Sportstar on Friday, PCB chairman Ehsan Mani made it clear that the Board will wait for the Asian Cricket Council meeting — scheduled to be held later this month or in early March — to get a clearer picture on the issue. “We will discuss the matter jointly, same as we decided last time (in 2018), when India had to host the Asia Cup in the UAE as they could not guarantee visas for Pakistan players,” Mani said.
Mani, who has previously headed the International Cricket Council, was confident that all the boards will take a collective decision “in the best interest of Asian cricket.”
Excerpts from an interview…
Q. Over the last few months, international cricket has returned to Pakistan with teams like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka touring the country. How do you see that?
A. It’s long overdue. Countries have been reluctant to visit Pakistan for a long time. For the last few years, there have been no reasons to be reluctant. But with anything like this invariably, they come expecting security change, they talk to their embassies. They realise that Pakistan is a safe country in the world. In fact, now when they come, they feel there is too much security.
This year, the entire Pakistan Super League will be held in the country. Do you think it will be a game changing moment for the sport in Pakistan?
The proof in the pudding is in the eating! We had over 425 overseas players applying for the drafts of the PSL. The PSL owners chose 40 of them, which is only 10 per cent. But the fact is 425 overseas players had applied for the spots. That in itself in a strong indication of how things are.
This time the Asia Cup has been allotted to Pakistan. With India expressing security concerns, there is no clarity on whether the matches will be held there…
We are the host this time as per the Asian Cricket Council policies. This is an Asian Cricket Council event, and when we have the next meeting, we will collectively decide about it. It’s not about India or Pakistan, it’s the Asian countries as a whole, who will decide where the tournament will be hosted. We don’t have any issues with it. Had it been an India-Pakistan series, [it would have been a different matter]. It’s not that case. Here we will take a collective decision as responsible people, looking after Asian cricket.
As far as hosting India is concerned, we don’t have any bilateral series scheduled. In terms of the Asia Cup, it is entirely ACC’s matter. We will discuss the matter jointly, same as we decided last time (in 2018), when India had to host the Asia Cup in the UAE as they could not guarantee visas for Pakistan players.
In case India doesn’t get clearances to tour Pakistan, is the PCB ready to host the entire tournament or India-specific matches in a neutral venue?
I won’t comment on that because the BCCI has not been in touch with us. When we discuss it at the ACC meeting, we will talk about that. I don’t want to speculate at the moment.
When can we get a clarity on the issue? When is the ACC meeting next to address the concerns?
I believe, it should be scheduled in end of February or early March. I am still waiting for the final dates. The current chief of the ACC is Najmul Hasan Papon and he will decide on the date and let the members know.
BCCI president Sourav Ganguly completed 100 days in office on Friday. When he took charge, most of the boards believed that a cricketer at the helm will provide a big boost for the game. As far as the PCB is concerned, how has been the equation so far?
When Sourav got appointed, I wrote a letter to him congratulating him and stated that I would be looking forward to meeting him at the international level for the betterment of the game. I haven’t heard anything back from him. But he is a great player and has great contribution to the game — both as a player and as captain of India. My only interest, which I think every cricket lover has, is to put the game of cricket beyond politics. As long as he works for the betterment of the game, I look forward to working with him.
What about Pakistan touring India for next year’s T20 World Cup?
As far as that’s concerned, it’s between the BCCI and the ICC. Being the host country, it is up to the BCCI to guarantee visas for the visiting countries. It’s between them to sit and sort all that out.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...n-cricket-council-meeting/article30711753.ece
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I don’t think Pakistan really have an option here. Asia cup will probably be hosted in the UAE and that is not Wasim Khan or Mani’s fault as the majority here seem to think! No PCB chairman could have got a different result tbh, especially with regards to India matches.
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It shouldn't be in UAE. UAE is probably one of the worst places for T20 cricket.
Once international cricket is resumed in Pakistan...sponsors, money will flow...BCCI and Indian govt knows this and PCB would be in a stronger position. PCB strong meaning Pak cricket strong and our neighbour's are not happy'. They will try their best to come up with cunning excuses. Since attack on srilankan team India has benefitted the most in terms of revenue, blackmailing ICC, bribing with series and blackmailing other asian countries not to visit Pak. PCB should take a stand thinking the long term future of Pak cricket and should refuse to play in India. '
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PCB wants written assurance from BCCI regarding clearance to play in two World Cups in India
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has asked the ICC to get written assurances from the BCCI that its team would face no problems getting visas to play in the 2021 T20 World Cup and the 2023 50 over World Cup in India. “We are also looking at the fact that the ICC World Cups are to be hosted in India in 2021 and 2023 and we have already asked the ICC to give us written assurances from BCCI that we will not face any problems getting visas and clearance to play in India,” PCB CEO Wasim Khan said in an interview on Youtube.
According to a senior official, the PCB has asked ICC to tell the BCCI to get the assurances from their government in the next few months. The official also confirmed that the ICC executive board would decide at its next meet whether the next World T20 Cup would be hosted by Australia or India.
Khan said it was unlikely the World T20 could be held this year in Australia. “The big question now is when the World T20 is held in 2021 will it be hosted by Australia or India as India has the hosting rights for the already scheduled World T20 Cup in 2021,” he said.
Khan said that the ICC members felt the World T20 should be held in the October-November period in 2021 or 2022. “The way things are, the gap available in 2022 will be used to accommodate the 2020 World T20 if it is not held this year.” He said that Pakistan would go to India for the ICC events after it got complete assurance about the security and safety of its players and officials.
Khan pointed out that in recent times many Pakistan sports squads were not given clearance by the Indian government to play in India. “That is why we have asked for the advance assurances. But eventually it is an ICC event and it is their responsibility to ensure we as a full member and signatory of the participants agreement go and play in these ICC events.” Khan also made it clear that due to the existing strained relations between Pakistan and India there were virtually no chances of bilateral cricket resuming soon.
“We have a good relationship with the BCCI but we know realistically a bilateral series is not possible in the foreseeable future,” he said.
Asked what would be PCB’s stance if BCCI chief Saurav Ganguly decided to stand for the post of ICC Chairman when the sitting Chairman Sashank Manohar steps down next month, Khan said so far no candidate including Ganguly or England’s Colin Greaves had made their intentions clear.
“We are getting mixed signals and we don’t know if Ganguly will decide to stand for the ICC post,” he said.
PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani’s name has also been mentioned as a strong candidate to replace Monohar but he recently in a media interaction made it clear that he was committed to Pakistan cricket for next three years.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ps-in-india/story-yc317tnJ13xm3R710WkO2M.html
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has asked the ICC to get written assurances from the BCCI that its team would face no problems getting visas to play in the 2021 T20 World Cup and the 2023 50 over World Cup in India. “We are also looking at the fact that the ICC World Cups are to be hosted in India in 2021 and 2023 and we have already asked the ICC to give us written assurances from BCCI that we will not face any problems getting visas and clearance to play in India,” PCB CEO Wasim Khan said in an interview on Youtube.
According to a senior official, the PCB has asked ICC to tell the BCCI to get the assurances from their government in the next few months. The official also confirmed that the ICC executive board would decide at its next meet whether the next World T20 Cup would be hosted by Australia or India.
Khan said it was unlikely the World T20 could be held this year in Australia. “The big question now is when the World T20 is held in 2021 will it be hosted by Australia or India as India has the hosting rights for the already scheduled World T20 Cup in 2021,” he said.
Khan said that the ICC members felt the World T20 should be held in the October-November period in 2021 or 2022. “The way things are, the gap available in 2022 will be used to accommodate the 2020 World T20 if it is not held this year.” He said that Pakistan would go to India for the ICC events after it got complete assurance about the security and safety of its players and officials.
Khan pointed out that in recent times many Pakistan sports squads were not given clearance by the Indian government to play in India. “That is why we have asked for the advance assurances. But eventually it is an ICC event and it is their responsibility to ensure we as a full member and signatory of the participants agreement go and play in these ICC events.” Khan also made it clear that due to the existing strained relations between Pakistan and India there were virtually no chances of bilateral cricket resuming soon.
“We have a good relationship with the BCCI but we know realistically a bilateral series is not possible in the foreseeable future,” he said.
Asked what would be PCB’s stance if BCCI chief Saurav Ganguly decided to stand for the post of ICC Chairman when the sitting Chairman Sashank Manohar steps down next month, Khan said so far no candidate including Ganguly or England’s Colin Greaves had made their intentions clear.
“We are getting mixed signals and we don’t know if Ganguly will decide to stand for the ICC post,” he said.
PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani’s name has also been mentioned as a strong candidate to replace Monohar but he recently in a media interaction made it clear that he was committed to Pakistan cricket for next three years.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ps-in-india/story-yc317tnJ13xm3R710WkO2M.html
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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has asked the ICC to get written assurances from the BCCI that its team would face no problems getting visas to play in the 2021 T20 World Cup and the 2023 50-over World Cup in India. According to a senior official, the PCB has asked ICC to tell the BCCI to get the assurances from their government in the next few months.
“We are also looking at the fact that the ICC World Cups are to be hosted in India in 2021 and 2023 and we have already asked the ICC to give us written assurances from BCCI that we will not face any problems getting visas and clearance to play in India,” PCB CEO Wasim Khan said.
The official also confirmed that the ICC executive board would decide at its next meet whether the next World T20 Cup would be hosted by Australia or India.
Khan said it was unlikely the World T20 could be held this year in Australia.
“The big question now is when the World T20 is held in 2021 will it be hosted by Australia or India as India has the hosting rights for the already scheduled World T20 Cup in 2021,” he said.
Khan said that the ICC members felt the World T20 should be held in the October-November period in 2021 or 2022.
“The way things are, the gap available in 2022 will be used to accommodate the 2020 World T20 if it is not held this year.”
He said that Pakistan would go to India for the ICC events after it got complete assurance about the security and safety of its players and officials.
Khan pointed out that in recent times many Pakistan sports squads were not given clearance by the Indian government to play in India.
“That is why we have asked for the advance assurances. But eventually it is an ICC event and it is their responsibility to ensure we as a full member and signatory of the participants agreement go and play in these ICC events.”
Khan also made it clear that due to the existing strained relations between Pakistan and India there were virtually no chances of bilateral cricket resuming soon.
“We have a good relationship with the BCCI but we know realistically a bilateral series is not possible in the foreseeable future,” he said.
Asked what would be PCB’s stance if BCCI chief Saurav Ganguly decided to stand for the post of ICC Chairman when the sitting Chairman Sashank Manohar steps down next month, Khan said so far no candidate including Ganguly or England’s Colin Greaves had made their intentions clear.
“We are getting mixed signals and we don’t know if Ganguly will decide to stand for the ICC post,” he said.
PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani’s name has also been mentioned as a strong candidate to replace Monohar but he recently in a media interaction made it clear that he was committed to Pakistan cricket for next three years.
https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...nce-to-play-in-two-world-cups-in-india-934753
“We are also looking at the fact that the ICC World Cups are to be hosted in India in 2021 and 2023 and we have already asked the ICC to give us written assurances from BCCI that we will not face any problems getting visas and clearance to play in India,” PCB CEO Wasim Khan said.
The official also confirmed that the ICC executive board would decide at its next meet whether the next World T20 Cup would be hosted by Australia or India.
Khan said it was unlikely the World T20 could be held this year in Australia.
“The big question now is when the World T20 is held in 2021 will it be hosted by Australia or India as India has the hosting rights for the already scheduled World T20 Cup in 2021,” he said.
Khan said that the ICC members felt the World T20 should be held in the October-November period in 2021 or 2022.
“The way things are, the gap available in 2022 will be used to accommodate the 2020 World T20 if it is not held this year.”
He said that Pakistan would go to India for the ICC events after it got complete assurance about the security and safety of its players and officials.
Khan pointed out that in recent times many Pakistan sports squads were not given clearance by the Indian government to play in India.
“That is why we have asked for the advance assurances. But eventually it is an ICC event and it is their responsibility to ensure we as a full member and signatory of the participants agreement go and play in these ICC events.”
Khan also made it clear that due to the existing strained relations between Pakistan and India there were virtually no chances of bilateral cricket resuming soon.
“We have a good relationship with the BCCI but we know realistically a bilateral series is not possible in the foreseeable future,” he said.
Asked what would be PCB’s stance if BCCI chief Saurav Ganguly decided to stand for the post of ICC Chairman when the sitting Chairman Sashank Manohar steps down next month, Khan said so far no candidate including Ganguly or England’s Colin Greaves had made their intentions clear.
“We are getting mixed signals and we don’t know if Ganguly will decide to stand for the ICC post,” he said.
PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani’s name has also been mentioned as a strong candidate to replace Monohar but he recently in a media interaction made it clear that he was committed to Pakistan cricket for next three years.
https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...nce-to-play-in-two-world-cups-in-india-934753
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PCB wants ICC to assure visas for T20 World Cup in India, sets deadline
NEW DELHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board wants the ICC to assure visas for its players and officials when India hosts the T20 World Cup in October next year, by January 2021, CEO Wasim Khan has said.
The PCB CEO also confirmed that there is "no chance" of an Indo-Pak bilateral series in "foreseeable future" and neither will it be a part of fresh the Futures Tours Programme (FTP) that starts in 2023.
India would be hosting the global T20 event in October and given the tense diplomatic ties between the two neighbours, the PCB has sought assurances that the visa process of their players and support staff would be dealt with by the ICC.
"This is an ICC matter. We have discussed our concerns. There is a 'Host Agreement' that states very clearly that host nation (India in this case) will have to provide visas and accommodation for teams that are due to participate in T20 World Cup and Pakistan is one of them," Khan told PTI in an exclusive interaction.
"We have sought assurances from the ICC that our players will receive visas and ICC is now taking this up with the BCCI because that directive and confirmation will clearly need to come from their government," Khan said.
He then clarified that it's only fair that there is a time-frame for such a deadline.
"We have asked for a deadline till December-January, which we believe is the right thing. We expect a response from the ICC on whether our players and officials will receive visas to participate in the tournament.
"If it (visas) isn't (there), then like any nation would expect, we would also expect ICC to take that up directly with India and the Indian government through the BCCI to resolve this matter."
Pakistan athletes' participation in global events held in India has always been a contentious subject.
Last year, Pakistani shooters could not get visas for a World Cup in Delhi, which kicked up quite a storm.
Unlike his predecessors in the Pakistan Cricket Board, Khan seemed practical when he clearly said that India and Pakistan aren't going to play any bilateral series in near future in the current climate.
"I think we have to be realistic about India and Pakistan bilateral series... BCCI needs to get permission before they can play Pakistan in any bilateral series, home, away or even on neutral venues," he said.
"I think on both sides, there is plenty of cricket to be played against other countries, but sadly for fans and players in both countries, it does not look like that India and Pakistan will be playing bilateral series in foreseeable future.
"So there is no current planning that we can factor into the next FTP (2023-31) unless circumstances and viewpoint changes of the Indian government," the PCB CEO added.
Khan didn't wish to comment on the impasse surrounding the ICC chairmanship but made it clear that contrary to popular notion, there is no animosity between BCCI and PCB at the global forum.
It was widely speculated that the PCB was opposed to any candidate backed by the BCCI.
"I am not aware that there is any dispute around voting with regards to the BCCI and PCB. It's the domain of BCCI president Sourav Ganguly and PCB chairman Ehsan Mani. I have no knowledge or information on that," said the former Derbyshire and Warwickshire batsman.
"We obviously communicate at ICC meetings and on various platforms and forums as we need to. But there has been very little dialogue between both the countries (boards).
"I know in the past there has been a cordial relationship between the BCCI and the PCB. Certainly, there is no visible animosity from both sides when we are on ICC platforms as we have discussions," Khan added.
The PCB CEO confirmed that they have sent a formal invitation to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) for a short Pakistan tour in January but are yet to hear from them.
"There are a lot of factors that ECB needs to look at considering their FTP, rescheduling of series that are postponed. They will, in due course, respond with their thoughts but as of yet there is no confirmation at all that ECB will be touring in January," he said.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...world-cup-in-india-sets-deadline-2212301.html
NEW DELHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board wants the ICC to assure visas for its players and officials when India hosts the T20 World Cup in October next year, by January 2021, CEO Wasim Khan has said.
The PCB CEO also confirmed that there is "no chance" of an Indo-Pak bilateral series in "foreseeable future" and neither will it be a part of fresh the Futures Tours Programme (FTP) that starts in 2023.
India would be hosting the global T20 event in October and given the tense diplomatic ties between the two neighbours, the PCB has sought assurances that the visa process of their players and support staff would be dealt with by the ICC.
"This is an ICC matter. We have discussed our concerns. There is a 'Host Agreement' that states very clearly that host nation (India in this case) will have to provide visas and accommodation for teams that are due to participate in T20 World Cup and Pakistan is one of them," Khan told PTI in an exclusive interaction.
"We have sought assurances from the ICC that our players will receive visas and ICC is now taking this up with the BCCI because that directive and confirmation will clearly need to come from their government," Khan said.
He then clarified that it's only fair that there is a time-frame for such a deadline.
"We have asked for a deadline till December-January, which we believe is the right thing. We expect a response from the ICC on whether our players and officials will receive visas to participate in the tournament.
"If it (visas) isn't (there), then like any nation would expect, we would also expect ICC to take that up directly with India and the Indian government through the BCCI to resolve this matter."
Pakistan athletes' participation in global events held in India has always been a contentious subject.
Last year, Pakistani shooters could not get visas for a World Cup in Delhi, which kicked up quite a storm.
Unlike his predecessors in the Pakistan Cricket Board, Khan seemed practical when he clearly said that India and Pakistan aren't going to play any bilateral series in near future in the current climate.
"I think we have to be realistic about India and Pakistan bilateral series... BCCI needs to get permission before they can play Pakistan in any bilateral series, home, away or even on neutral venues," he said.
"I think on both sides, there is plenty of cricket to be played against other countries, but sadly for fans and players in both countries, it does not look like that India and Pakistan will be playing bilateral series in foreseeable future.
"So there is no current planning that we can factor into the next FTP (2023-31) unless circumstances and viewpoint changes of the Indian government," the PCB CEO added.
Khan didn't wish to comment on the impasse surrounding the ICC chairmanship but made it clear that contrary to popular notion, there is no animosity between BCCI and PCB at the global forum.
It was widely speculated that the PCB was opposed to any candidate backed by the BCCI.
"I am not aware that there is any dispute around voting with regards to the BCCI and PCB. It's the domain of BCCI president Sourav Ganguly and PCB chairman Ehsan Mani. I have no knowledge or information on that," said the former Derbyshire and Warwickshire batsman.
"We obviously communicate at ICC meetings and on various platforms and forums as we need to. But there has been very little dialogue between both the countries (boards).
"I know in the past there has been a cordial relationship between the BCCI and the PCB. Certainly, there is no visible animosity from both sides when we are on ICC platforms as we have discussions," Khan added.
The PCB CEO confirmed that they have sent a formal invitation to England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) for a short Pakistan tour in January but are yet to hear from them.
"There are a lot of factors that ECB needs to look at considering their FTP, rescheduling of series that are postponed. They will, in due course, respond with their thoughts but as of yet there is no confirmation at all that ECB will be touring in January," he said.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...world-cup-in-india-sets-deadline-2212301.html
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The International Cricket Council (ICC) has reportedly told the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) to provide written guarantees of providing visa to Pakistan players for this year’s T20 World Cup.
Bdcrictime, in its report, stated that council informed India that the competition’s future may be affected if the Green Caps do not participate in the tournament.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) raised the issue in a recent board meeting.
India were awarded the hosting right for this year’s edition after the 2020 edition of the competition in Australia was postponed for coronavirus pandemic. The Land Down Under will now host the tournament next year.
It is to be noted that the cricketing ties Pakistan and India have been strained following the attack on a hotel in the city of Mumbai back in 2008. However, the Green Caps toured the neighbouring country for six limited-overs game back in 2012-13.
The two countries have only competed in regional and global competitions since then.
https://www.samaa.tv/sports/2021/01/icc-asks-bcci-to-provide-visa-assurance-for-pakistan-players/
Bdcrictime, in its report, stated that council informed India that the competition’s future may be affected if the Green Caps do not participate in the tournament.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) raised the issue in a recent board meeting.
India were awarded the hosting right for this year’s edition after the 2020 edition of the competition in Australia was postponed for coronavirus pandemic. The Land Down Under will now host the tournament next year.
It is to be noted that the cricketing ties Pakistan and India have been strained following the attack on a hotel in the city of Mumbai back in 2008. However, the Green Caps toured the neighbouring country for six limited-overs game back in 2012-13.
The two countries have only competed in regional and global competitions since then.
https://www.samaa.tv/sports/2021/01/icc-asks-bcci-to-provide-visa-assurance-for-pakistan-players/
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ICC, BCCI or any other sport’s authority cannot decide/ bargain or force GOI about when and how and if visas are issued to anyone coming within the country. There is a standard protocol like in any other country.
When the time will come they will get visas.
BCCI had not authority to provide guarantees and it will not do so.
Not sure why do much of fuss is being made.
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Yes please tell PCB to stick to that stance instead of making a statement every second month about losing money because of not playing India.
Decide and stick to it.
True. But then what is the contingency if visas are not granted prior to the event?
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I am just reiterating that BCCI has no authority to guarantee visas. Does any organisation guarantee visas anywhere in the world?
It’s the government prerogative and they will deal with the backlash if visas are not issued.
ICC and BCCI cannot ask for this.
Too much gaslighting from some. BCCI can easily forward such requests to Indian government and let them respond. IOC had given India (not sure if it was Indian government or their Olympic organization) a ban from hosting future Olympic tournaments unless there was a written guarantee there would be no future visa denials. Of course they caved and wrote a guarantee. Indian government needs to do the same thing here. BCCI can forward such requests to GoI and stop wasting everyone's time with semantics.
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I agree with your point. In cricket BCCI and GOI has an unique position given that financials are controlled by India. My point is we need to get rid of the feudal mindset that we will block them at our convenience. Other than exceptional scenario, there should not be a reason where players are blocked for an international event that the country has committed to host. Either that or we agree that we are not ready to host an international event and host all the qualified teams. Fifa ensures that equal treatment is provided to all participating nations regardless of present differences and past conflicts between the host and participating nation.
Imagine China blocks India's Olympic team because of border skirmishes. Will that be accepted as a rational stance by our government and people? IOC will likely ban China in that scenario from hosting and participating in events till they change the stance.
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When were Pakistani cricketers blocked last time for a World event?
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Why should a special handling happen in this case. Its not an established protocol.
When the world event will near, Visa request will come and will be processed on their merit. Simple semantics.
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It's not just about blocking but also posturing. One can never predict the future, but clear direction based on current circumstances does help.
Why did Indian government have to guarantee visa for Pakistani sports people that will participate in IOC events much further into the future than the 2021 T20 WC?
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So if the visas get blocked we will discuss then. Till then follow the established protocols rather than trying to stir up unnecessary upmanship.
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PCB should also send some officials to assess the security arrangements prior to WC.
Hindutva goons can go to any length in their hate for Pakistan.
Hindutva goons can go to any length in their hate for Pakistan.
I don't think there will be a large risk to the Pak players, the Hinduvta goons are likely to be thugs equipped with bats and clubs, nothing some well-trained security can't handle. Though doing a security check certainly wouldn't hurt.
Why discus it then why not get it sorted way before event ?
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