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"We can pick two more teams and win any competition in the world" : Hardik Pandya

I don’t think it is the statement of Indian team. It is just Pandya being Pandya and nothing else. He is 50% ability and 50% confidence so he places lot of emphasis on confidence. Just wish that he keeps his words to himself or close friends.
 
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India B team can definitely beat Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies, South Africa and Pakistan in limited overs game. I am talking about the Indian B team in Sri Lanka. Not saying they will but they can.

The debt in English and Indian cricket atm. is crazy good.
 
He may have gone over board a bit but not entirely wrong. In white ball cricket Indian can easily field 2 strong teams and still win tournaments.

We won Nidahas Trophy with back up players.

We won Asia cup 2018 with captain and main batsman missing. Pandya himself was out of that tournament.

We now won a series in SL with players some of whom would probably never plat for India again.

Are you ok? We barely got past a B Sri Lanka, admittedly with our own B side but to think India will win tournaments by spreading their resources across 3 different teams is ridiculous. Let's concentrate on winning an ICC tournament with our best XI first and not repeatedly losing to New Zealand.
 
India B team can definitely beat Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies, South Africa and Pakistan in limited overs game. I am talking about the Indian B team in Sri Lanka. Not saying they will but they can.

The debt in English and Indian cricket atm. is crazy good.

India B couldn't even score 300 against SL B....
 
if hes talking about useless bilaterals then fair enough, but if hes talking about proper trophy's i.e. ICC events then im afraid to say C teams like Pakistan and west indies hold more in the past 5 years or so :))
 
Sri Lankan cricket is at their lowest just like Australia, Zimbabwe, West Indies and to some extent South Africa and Pakistan. Claiming things like these when half of the teams in world cricket are going through tough time for different reasons doesn't look right especially when it is coming from someone who is representing the B team himself. Australia of 2000s had the depth in their team. Guys like Katich, Martyn, McGill had to sit out in many games. This was the time when most of the teams were pretty good. Even Zimbabwe used to beat India.

Mr Hardik Pandya should keep his feet on the ground because we have nothing to show in the trophy cabinet for the past 8 years. :inti
 
Sri Lankan cricket is at their lowest just like Australia, Zimbabwe, West Indies and to some extent South Africa and Pakistan. Claiming things like these when half of the teams in world cricket are going through tough time for different reasons doesn't look right especially when it is coming from someone who is representing the B team himself. Australia of 2000s had the depth in their team. Guys like Katich, Martyn, McGill had to sit out in many games. This was the time when most of the teams were pretty good. Even Zimbabwe used to beat India.

Mr Hardik Pandya should keep his feet on the ground because we have nothing to show in the trophy cabinet for the past 8 years. :inti

I think you've just hit the nail there..
He may be subconsciously defending his own position in this team and the fact that he's been left out of the main team.

Either way, its a really crass statement.
 
The worst part about this statement is that he himself isn't performing for quite some time now. To make such a statement when you yourself are going through a rough patch isn't very bright on part of Pandya.
 
I think you've just hit the nail there..
He may be subconsciously defending his own position in this team and the fact that he's been left out of the main team.

Either way, its a really crass statement.

And he isn't performing for this team as well. Whenever he fails with the bat he starts to bowl few overs to justify his selection in the team. He will play one good inning after every 7-8 matches and all will be forgotten. I called him "gareebon ka afridi" long time ago for this very reason. :inti
 
if hes talking about useless bilaterals then fair enough, but if hes talking about proper trophy's i.e. ICC events then im afraid to say C teams like Pakistan and west indies hold more in the past 5 years or so :))
Sad but true. In the end, the only thing matters in LoIs at least is the trophy, something which we've not won for the last 8 years.

This false bravado is sickening to say the least.
 
Sad but true. In the end, the only thing matters in LoIs at least is the trophy, something which we've not won for the last 8 years.

This false bravado is sickening to say the least.

Pandya is safe as long as Kohli is our captain. :inti
 
And he isn't performing for this team as well. Whenever he fails with the bat he starts to bowl few overs to justify his selection in the team. He will play one good inning after every 7-8 matches and all will be forgotten. I called him "gareebon ka afridi" long time ago for this very reason. :inti

Afridi for all his faults in batting...became a world-class bowler in ODIs and T20s, something that Pandya can never achieve.

And now even his batting form and fitness have him deserted him....he's already out of Test side and with his poor batting form and non-existent bowling, he might find it hard to retain his place in a full-strength Indian side
 
India B couldn't even score 300 against SL B....


We chased down 263 in 36 overs in the first ODI losing just 3 wickets. That's a much better outing than scoring 300 in 50 overs.

And if you're talking about the 3rd ODI, that was more an India Z than India B with 5 debutants. We can definitely cut them some slack.
 
2019 world cup wasn't a choke. Nz were a better side than us for those conditions and beat us comfortably in the warm up game too.
Failing to chase less than 230 with world best batters in the line up is nothing less than a choke.

Mediocre team like Pakistan beat the same team comfortably.
 
Failing to chase less than 230 with world best batters in the line up is nothing less than a choke.

Mediocre team like Pakistan beat the same team comfortably.


The target was 240 so not "less than 230".

And in those early morning overcast conditions with heavy rain overnight , and the pressure of a World cup semifinal and that 240 is equivalent of 280-90 score in normal games.

Pakistan beating the same team in a low pressure game (relatively) in totally different conditions and when NZ were bothered more with their NRR than the result.... it's most definitely not the same thing. If not for Dharmasena, England too would have failed to chase 240 in the final but it wouldn't have made it a "choke".
 
We chased down 263 in 36 overs in the first ODI losing just 3 wickets. That's a much better outing than scoring 300 in 50 overs.

And if you're talking about the 3rd ODI, that was more an India Z than India B with 5 debutants. We can definitely cut them some slack.

Ahhh ok, so India can pick 26 different teams now
 
The target was 240 so not "less than 230".

And in those early morning overcast conditions with heavy rain overnight , and the pressure of a World cup semifinal and that 240 is equivalent of 280-90 score in normal games.

Pakistan beating the same team in a low pressure game (relatively) in totally different conditions and when NZ were bothered more with their NRR than the result.... it's most definitely not the same thing. If not for Dharmasena, England too would have failed to chase 240 in the final but it wouldn't have made it a "choke".

To be fair, if you watched the world cup, for Pakistan that was a knock out game also, essentially a quarter final.

Just watch the sport and be fair huh?
 
Ahhh ok, so India can pick 26 different teams now


What a lame strawman! :91:

When I did I say anything about "different teams"? You said we "couldn't even score 300" as if scoring 263/3 in 36 overs ranks any lower to that.
 
To be fair, if you watched the world cup, for Pakistan that was a knock out game also, essentially a quarter final.

Just watch the sport and be fair huh?


If that was "essentially a quarter final", Pakistan would have played the semi final against India at old Trafford.. not New Zealand. NZ were under no pressure to win that game and they were more bothered with saving their NRR like India did with England. Well done to Pakistan for taking full advantage of that but sorry.. it's just not the same thing.
 
Don't see what Pandya has said that's too controversial, it's an excellent way to build morale among the reserve squad members. In any case, India's reserve side is good enough to take on most international teams and win at white ball cricket.
 
Can someone remind me of the game result today between Ind and SL?

Dont agree with pandya.

But was this even a proper team. Forced to pick 6 bowlers because there were only 11 fit players.

Not to mention that this was probably India E team.
 
Dont agree with pandya.

But was this even a proper team. Forced to pick 6 bowlers because there were only 11 fit players.

Not to mention that this was probably India E team.

How can it be an E team when it had at least 3 - 4 players who would make it to the first XI?

Nobody doubts India talent, but we need to be careful and not over exaggerate things. Talent alone doesnt win you matches.

It is the combination of skills, determination and having a big heart which gives success.
 
How can it be an E team when it had at least 3 - 4 players who would make it to the first XI?

Nobody doubts India talent, but we need to be careful and not over exaggerate things. Talent alone doesnt win you matches.

It is the combination of skills, determination and having a big heart which gives success.

Who are those 4 players who can make it into first X1?
 
Who are those 4 players who can make it into first X1?

Dhawan, bhuvi are the only two who are close.
Shoddy batting fielding and bowling. No wonder India got thrashed
 
he is right in the sense that Indian team has immense depth atm ;

Team which lost today is literally their D team

18 players in England
7 players rested from todays 2nd T20 vs SL
 
So which one of the two Indian teams lost 9/11 SENA series in 10 years or gets knocked out of every WC and CT finals in line?
 
Dhawan, bhuvi are the only two who are close.
Shoddy batting fielding and bowling. No wonder India got thrashed

Dhawan is no longer in the first playing XI.

He was dropped for the England T20is and was replaced by Kishan/Rahul.

So only Bhuvi
 
Dhawan is no longer in the first playing XI.


He was dropped for the England T20is and was replaced by Kishan/Rahul.

So only Bhuvi

Not even Bhuvi. I think if Siraj can continue his IPL T20 form, he gets node ahead of Bhuvi. Pace attack will be Bhumrah, Siraj and Hardik along with Jaddu and Chahal.
 
We have about 30 players who are international standards in T20s. Those who don't count in 30 are not international standards.
 
How can it be an E team when it had at least 3 - 4 players who would make it to the first XI?

Nobody doubts India talent, but we need to be careful and not over exaggerate things. Talent alone doesnt win you matches.

It is the combination of skills, determination and having a big heart which gives success.

Please stop watching cricket if you think 3-4 of today's team will be in the playing XI. Only Bhuvi has a chance, the rest of them haven't.

I suspect you already know that to be honest, but some Pakistanis here are so desperate for some positive news from international cricket that they'll latch on it on anything given their own team's pathetic record.
 
India's T20I debutants this year:

Ishan Kishan
Suryakumar Yadav
Prithvi Shaw
Varun CV
Ruturaj Gaikwad
Devdutt Padikkal
Chetan Sakariya
Nitish Rana
 
Not looking too good now Pandya after this statement!
 
I'm pretty sure he didn't mean the second team would have Bhuvi Kumar batting at 6. :91:
 
Can't expect much from this team as it was not even balanced.

Anyways, by the time you talk about the third string teams which means talking about players who are not even in top 22 except 2-3, it becomes pretty average.
 
Please stop watching cricket if you think 3-4 of today's team will be in the playing XI. Only Bhuvi has a chance, the rest of them haven't.

I suspect you already know that to be honest, but some Pakistanis here are so desperate for some positive news from international cricket that they'll latch on it on anything given their own team's pathetic record.

I was expecting better depth and quality from Indians C team
 
Please stop watching cricket if you think 3-4 of today's team will be in the playing XI. Only Bhuvi has a chance, the rest of them haven't.

I suspect you already know that to be honest, but some Pakistanis here are so desperate for some positive news from international cricket that they'll latch on it on anything given their own team's pathetic record.
So you are saying that India only has 20 international quality players? Others are not good enough?
 
Surely these IPL superstars can deal with this Sri Lankan side? Embarrassing performance!
 
India decided to just use the series against SL to see if they could unearth a new gem, results like this are bound to happen sometimes if you play with a brand new team. I don't think they'll look into this too much given SL needed to catch a break.
 
What he said should actually happen, given all the facilities, exposure, interest, craziness and mere number of cricketers India have. But at the moment they should start winning something with the main eleven.

You can have 10 equally good teams but what matters in the end is that XI playing on the given day in a major tournament. If that team doesn’t turn up these cheap talks don’t matter.

The more you listen to these new ‘superstars’ the more you understand what class act Dhoni was.
 
India didn’t have proper squard for last 2 match. Even india C or D need proper 15 members. They don’t have options left for bating
 
People hiding behind this B team or C team excuse are those fools who do not understand that a team is strong if its cricketing system, board, replacement players are also strong. England is a world champion side, their replacement players are also disciplined, highly trained professionals who just beat full strength Pakistan who itself defeated full strength SA twice at home and away.

If someone puts out an excuse of oh we lost because we did have our first tier players playing then they are automatically implying that our team is good because of 2-3 first tier players who have no replacements because our cricketing system is trash and these 2-3 players are just anomaly. When they retire we have no backup.

Indian replacements lost to Sri Lankan replacements. Fair and square. Both teams were without their first tier performers.
 
People hiding behind this B team or C team excuse are those fools who do not understand that a team is strong if its cricketing system, board, replacement players are also strong. England is a world champion side, their replacement players are also disciplined, highly trained professionals who just beat full strength Pakistan who itself defeated full strength SA twice at home and away.

If someone puts out an excuse of oh we lost because we did have our first tier players playing then they are automatically implying that our team is good because of 2-3 first tier players who have no replacements because our cricketing system is trash and these 2-3 players are just anomaly. When they retire we have no backup.

Indian replacements lost to Sri Lankan replacements. Fair and square. Both teams were without their first tier performers.
To be fair to India though it seems like they didnt have enough batsmen for the last T20? Bhuvanesh Kumar is not a number 6..
 
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The ability of our bench strength was confirmed in the tour of australia, let alone English reserves even there main team won't come close to doing what our reserves did at the Gabba.
Our bench strength is as good if not better than England.
 
No matter how strong Indian cricket is, how strong their bench strength is, comments such as these by Pandya are disrespectful and not necessary.
 
No matter how strong Indian cricket is, how strong their bench strength is, comments such as these by Pandya are disrespectful and not necessary.

Agreed. More immature comments by a bollywood inspired showoff than a responsible sportsman representing his country. His 'basti' mentality will take a while to wear off.
 
Agreed. More immature comments by a bollywood inspired showoff than a responsible sportsman representing his country. His 'basti' mentality will take a while to wear off.

If you are an Indian, please tell me what is inspiring this stupid behavior among younger Indian players compared to elegant gentlemen characters like Sachin, Dev, Dravid etc?
 
Everything was going well until this.
Lizaad, Sipamla, Magala is your definition of full strength South Africa lolwut.

Lolwut on you actually

Pakistan thrashed full strength SA composed of Nortje, Rabada, Ngidi, Mahraj, Linde ...
 
To be fair to India though it seems like they didnt have enough batsmen for the last T20? Bhuvanesh Kumar is not a number 6..


This. Even if we had a couple of all-rounders available, it would have been a different result in the 2nd T20. With just 5 capable batters no team can beat a half decent side (which SL definitely are) on a bowling friendly wicket.

Don't know why people are taking this result so seriously.
 
Lolwut on you actually

Pakistan thrashed full strength SA composed of Nortje, Rabada, Ngidi, Mahraj, Linde ...

Nah, again you are wrong buddy.

You said Pakistan beat full strength South Africa HOME and AWAY which definitely means you aren't talking about the test series as you were whitewashed in South Africa.

Now coming on to the limited overs series, DeKock, Nortje, Rabada, Duplessis, Dur Dussen, Morris, Miller etc etc all left for IPL so yes you beat up a 3rd grade South Africa away from home.
Lolwut is still on ya buddy.
 
Arrogant Indians deserve this humiliation.
LOL srilanka D humiliated them badly.

It was very good to see.
 
People hiding behind this B team or C team excuse are those fools who do not understand that a team is strong if its cricketing system, board, replacement players are also strong. England is a world champion side, their replacement players are also disciplined, highly trained professionals who just beat full strength Pakistan who itself defeated full strength SA twice at home and away.

If someone puts out an excuse of oh we lost because we did have our first tier players playing then they are automatically implying that our team is good because of 2-3 first tier players who have no replacements because our cricketing system is trash and these 2-3 players are just anomaly. When they retire we have no backup.

Indian replacements lost to Sri Lankan replacements. Fair and square. Both teams were without their first tier performers.

While Pandya's comments are nonsensical. India was definitely missing more than 2-3 players.Far more than SL. Even the first T20 India won.Its only the Covid which has us playing Bhuvi at 6
 
Arrogant Indians deserve this humiliation.
LOL srilanka D humiliated them badly.

It was very good to see.

Pandya is the new George Bush @ Foot_in_the_mouth disease
I think his unprofessional comments actually firing up the SriLankans and they gave our juniors a sound thrashing.
 
Arrogant Indians deserve this humiliation.
LOL srilanka D humiliated them badly.

It was very good to see.


Didn't this same "Sri Lanka D" humilate Pakistan 3-0...that too in Pakistan?

I mean at least we were playing a Z team missing 15-16 players.. :angel:
 
If you are an Indian, please tell me what is inspiring this stupid behavior among younger Indian players compared to elegant gentlemen characters like Sachin, Dev, Dravid etc?

Too much success, money, glamour and exposure too early in life, without the maturity keeping pace.

TBH it's not unique among Indians.
 
You’ve also got KL Rahul who calls himself ‘King Legend’ Rahul
 
Nah, again you are wrong buddy.

You said Pakistan beat full strength South Africa HOME and AWAY which definitely means you aren't talking about the test series as you were whitewashed in South Africa.

Now coming on to the limited overs series, DeKock, Nortje, Rabada, Duplessis, Dur Dussen, Morris, Miller etc etc all left for IPL so yes you beat up a 3rd grade South Africa away from home.
Lolwut is still on ya buddy.

You mean the limited overs series where Rabada and five other South Africans were quarantining in India for the much vaunted IPL at that time ?
 
Arrogant Indians deserve this humiliation.
LOL srilanka D humiliated them badly.

It was very good to see.

8 members of C team were indisposed. Any other team would have packed up and left.

May be you didn't watch the ODI series which SL lost.
 
Seems Pandya has been served up some humble pie.
Question is whether he will take a bite or make more crass statements in the future!
 
Seems Pandya has been served up some humble pie.
Question is whether he will take a bite or make more crass statements in the future!

Humble pies? For what?

That a c Indian team that lost 8 players. Couldn't field even 6 or 7 batters got beaten by SL?
 
Guyz this was not a chosen squad. This was just making up the numbers because there were no other fit players.
In any of Indian squad, Bhuvi won't bat at 6.
Pandya is right to a great extent.
 
Guyz this was not a chosen squad. This was just making up the numbers because there were no other fit players.
In any of Indian squad, Bhuvi won't bat at 6.
Pandya is right to a great extent.

since 2013 how many icc trophies has india won, pandya was wrong.
 
Guyz this was not a chosen squad. This was just making up the numbers because there were no other fit players.
In any of Indian squad, Bhuvi won't bat at 6.
Pandya is right to a great extent.

Yes and there is a saying...
"What goes around comes around"..
 
Humble pies? For what?

That a c Indian team that lost 8 players. Couldn't field even 6 or 7 batters got beaten by SL?

C team, D team, E team or whatever - Pandya's statement was immature and unnecessary. Hopefully he will think more carefully about making such statements in future.
 
Sri Lanka is ranked at 9 in T20I rankings which means they are a pretty weak team. On top of that they were also missing few of their players as well. Not sure why this is not being highlighted here. :inti
 
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