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"We needed more bravery in certain situations": Mohammad Rizwan

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Mohammad Rizwan in a post match press conference after a humiliating defeat against India:

Reporter: "Rizwan, this must be a disappointing result. What do you think were the main reasons for the defeat? Also, Kohli consistently performs well against Pakistan. Despite claims he's out of form, he scored a century against you."

Mohammad Rizwan: "Regarding Virat Kohli, I'm genuinely impressed by his dedication. He must have put in immense effort. While many say he's struggling, he delivers in crucial matches that everyone anticipates. He finds ways to score, which is precisely what we wanted to prevent. I must commend his fitness and hard work. We tried our best to dismiss him, but he took the game away. He proved his critics wrong by performing in this significant match.

"As for the match itself, of course, we're disappointed. Losing is always difficult, and it raises many questions. However, looking back, it's hard to pinpoint a single department where we failed completely, except perhaps for Abrar's bowling, which was a positive highlight. We made errors across all three areas, which ultimately led to our defeat."

Reporter: "Do you believe the middle order underperformed? And do you think the lack of quality spin bowling was a factor?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "Yes, the middle order didn't perform as expected. Previously, they've done well. In our pre-match meeting, we discussed that a score of 270-280 would be competitive on this pitch, given the slow outfield and pitch. Saud and I tried to build a partnership, but we took too much time. Our shot selection afterwards was poor, giving them opportunities to take wickets. Our middle order couldn't handle the pressure, and we failed to capitalize."

Reporter: "The coach mentioned yesterday that the pace attack was your strength. In hindsight, do you think relying on only one specialist spinner was a mistake?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "No, I don't think it was a mistake. Even the Indian team has Kuldeep as their main spinner, with Jadeja and Axar Patel acting as all-rounders. We also have Salman Ali Agha and Khushdil Shah, who have bowled well in the past. In ODIs, especially, we need wickets in the middle overs. If we don't take them, we can't win. Our pace attack, Shaheen, Naseem, and Haris, has consistently performed well, but today wasn't their day."

Reporter: "It seemed like basic errors cost you the game. After you and Saud were dismissed, Jadeja took another wicket, and then two catches were dropped. Did you approach the match with a timid mindset, considering you only managed 245 after a strong middle-overs partnership?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "Honestly, we repeated the same mistakes we've made in the past four matches. We're working on them. We're human, and mistakes happen. I believe the Indian team showed more effort and perhaps more bravery than us today. That's why they won. We lacked energy in the field, which led to errors. We needed more bravery in certain situations."

Reporter: "Imam has been in good form domestically. Do you think Fakhar Zaman's absence affected the opening overs, and that only you and Saud managed to recover?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "Losing Saim Ayub impacted our team balance. He was a key part of our strategy. Fakhar and Imam are different players with different strengths. We wanted a strong opening partnership, but it didn't materialize. We did build a partnership in the middle overs, but both Imam and Babar are big players, and we expect more than just 20-30 runs from them."

Reporter: "As defending Champions Trophy champions and hosts, is your journey in this tournament over?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "For now, it seems so. We'll have to see how Bangladesh and New Zealand perform in their upcoming matches. We still have hope, but our fate now depends on other teams. As a captain, I don't like relying on others. We should win on our own merits. We accept that New Zealand and India defeated us. We can play well or poorly. We can't rely on other teams. We'll see what Allah has in store."

Reporter: "The match is over, but Abrar bowled well. Would having another specialist spinner have made a difference?"

Mohammad Rizwan: "You keep coming back to this point. You can't field five genuine bowlers in ODIs. Look at New Zealand with Bracewell, or India with Axar and Jadeja. Our selection committee chooses the best available players, like Salman Ali Agha and Khushdil Shah, who can both bat and bowl. If you go with specialist bowlers, you'd have four bowlers and six batsmen, which isn't a balanced combination. While your question is valid, you can't field five bowlers in an ODI. You might in T20s, but ODIs are a longer format."
 
Absolutely his dot balls partnership with Saud costed the game as 240 was never going to be enough. Also I will say it was a very cowardly decision by management to opt to open with Babar and Imam. Pakistan needed to gamble with someone to provide them with a quick start in the powerplay.
 
Absolutely his dot balls partnership with Saud costed the game as 240 was never going to be enough. Also I will say it was a very cowardly decision by management to opt to open with Babar and Imam. Pakistan needed to gamble with someone to provide them with a quick start in the powerplay.
Bro i don't understand why pak need to play 3 fast bowlers when 2 geniune spinners would have sealed the game today abrar and sufiyan or even sajid would have won it instead pak keep playing 3 pacers can you plz tell why are they doing it when they know 2 spinners are their strength instead of playing 3 fast bowlers why not 2 spinner and 2 fast bowlers?
 
Bro i don't understand why pak need to play 3 fast bowlers when 2 geniune spinners would have sealed the game today abrar and sufiyan or even sajid would have won it instead pak keep playing 3 pacers can you plz tell why are they doing it when they know 2 spinners are their strength instead of playing 3 fast bowlers why not 2 spinner and 2 fast bowlers?

Agree. In UAE, you don't need 3 pacers. You need 2 pacers + spinners.
 
Dumb statement by Rizwan, and i wish if there is a rep from pakpassion at this session do through hard questions.

No one said play 5 bowlers, the last question was having another spinner. No where it is a requirement that you need to play 3 full time pacers.

Had we kept sufiyan in the team, or even shadab khan, jamal khan and jahandad khan a combination could had been made.

Every tom dick and harry knows that spinners dominate uae. You dont play 1 spinner here. India went with 6 bowlers.

Hardik pandya isnt that great of a bowler, and bowls 130 short pies. But he fits in the combination well. Jahandad bowls at an equal pace if not faster, so why cant you not makè such a combination.

Forget jahandad khan what about aamir jamal.

Problem is, you want to go with the same garbage of naseem, shaheen and rauf because of the false myth that pace is pace.

You could had gone with the same bowling combinations with india by chlosing the following

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil
 
Bro i don't understand why pak need to play 3 fast bowlers when 2 geniune spinners would have sealed the game today abrar and sufiyan or even sajid would have won it instead pak keep playing 3 pacers can you plz tell why are they doing it when they know 2 spinners are their strength instead of playing 3 fast bowlers why not 2 spinner and 2 fast bowlers?
Selection committee either don't have control to pick players they want OR they don't have a brain.
 
Dumb statement by Rizwan, and i wish if there is a rep from pakpassion at this session do through hard questions.

No one said play 5 bowlers, the last question was having another spinner. No where it is a requirement that you need to play 3 full time pacers.

Had we kept sufiyan in the team, or even shadab khan, jamal khan and jahandad khan a combination could had been made.

Every tom dick and harry knows that spinners dominate uae. You dont play 1 spinner here. India went with 6 bowlers.

Hardik pandya isnt that great of a bowler, and bowls 130 short pies. But he fits in the combination well. Jahandad bowls at an equal pace if not faster, so why cant you not makè such a combination.

Forget jahandad khan what about aamir jamal.

Problem is, you want to go with the same garbage of naseem, shaheen and rauf because of the false myth that pace is pace.

You could had gone with the same bowling combinations with india by chlosing the following

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil
He didn't wanted to say we were short of a genuine spinner. Same goes with their decision to open with Babar and to not have any openers in the squad and to have replacement of a batter like Fakhar be Imam. Their stubbornness and senseless decision making might have costed Pakistan CT. Or at least spot in KO of CT.
 
Bro i don't understand why pak need to play 3 fast bowlers when 2 geniune spinners would have sealed the game today abrar and sufiyan or even sajid would have won it instead pak keep playing 3 pacers can you plz tell why are they doing it when they know 2 spinners are their strength instead of playing 3 fast bowlers why not 2 spinner and 2 fast bowlers?
Theyre not brave enough to take that step ...
in other words,
Khushdil
Shaheen
Naseem or Rauf
Abrar
Moqeem
 
Dumb statement by Rizwan, and i wish if there is a rep from pakpassion at this session do through hard questions.

No one said play 5 bowlers, the last question was having another spinner. No where it is a requirement that you need to play 3 full time pacers.

Had we kept sufiyan in the team, or even shadab khan, jamal khan and jahandad khan a combination could had been made.

Every tom dick and harry knows that spinners dominate uae. You dont play 1 spinner here. India went with 6 bowlers.

Hardik pandya isnt that great of a bowler, and bowls 130 short pies. But he fits in the combination well. Jahandad bowls at an equal pace if not faster, so why cant you not makè such a combination.

Forget jahandad khan what about aamir jamal.

Problem is, you want to go with the same garbage of naseem, shaheen and rauf because of the false myth that pace is pace.

You could had gone with the same bowling combinations with india by chlosing the following

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil
Dumb statement by Rizwan, and i wish if there is a rep from pakpassion at this session do through hard questions.

No one said play 5 bowlers, the last question was having another spinner. No where it is a requirement that you need to play 3 full time pacers.

Had we kept sufiyan in the team, or even shadab khan, jamal khan and jahandad khan a combination could had been made.

Every tom dick and harry knows that spinners dominate uae. You dont play 1 spinner here. India went with 6 bowlers.

Hardik pandya isnt that great of a bowler, and bowls 130 short pies. But he fits in the combination well. Jahandad bowls at an equal pace if not faster, so why cant you not makè such a combination.

Forget jahandad khan what about aamir jamal.

Problem is, you want to go with the same garbage of naseem, shaheen and rauf because of the false myth that pace is pace.

You could had gone with the same bowling combinations with india by chlosing the following

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil
Based on your analysis give me your final eleven?
 
Theyre not brave enough to take that step ...
in other words,
Khushdil
Shaheen
Naseem or Rauf
Abrar
Moqeem
Its not about brave they are being stubborn and stupid why would you play 3 pacers are they thinking they are playing in australia or they want to adopt australian mindset who only play zampa everywhere and three fast bowlers?
 
1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil
Shaheen, Naseem, Haris are all genuine pacers. 140+ when they're fit in white ball Cricket. All bowl similarly. None is a clever bowler like Amir or a change up specialist like Abbas. They don't even bowl yorkers with the old ball anymore and none get that late in dip like Wasim Jr with the old ball.

This pace attack of Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf and Hasnain is good but only for SENA white ball games. Their skills at this point are suited there more than here.

PCB and management will never develop a pace all rounder. They don't even know how. They will select Faheem again in the next tournament.
 
Its not about brave they are being stubborn and stupid why would you play 3 pacers are they thinking they are playing in australia or they want to adopt australian mindset who only play zampa everywhere and three fast bowlers?
Totally agree
 
Team which should play the next ODI after CT

Fakhar

Saim

Abdullah

KG

 Agha

Haris

Jamal

Wasim JR

Muqeem

Abrar

Abbas Afridi

In SENA drop a spinner for a new pacer.
 
Shaheen, Naseem, Haris are all genuine pacers. 140+ when they're fit in white ball Cricket. All bowl similarly. None is a clever bowler like Amir or a change up specialist like Abbas. They don't even bowl yorkers with the old ball anymore and none get that late in dip like Wasim Jr with the old ball.

This pace attack of Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf and Hasnain is good but only for SENA white ball games. Their skills at this point are suited there more than here.

PCB and management will never develop a pace all rounder. They don't even know how. They will select Faheem again in the next tournament.
Our pace attack is flawed.

Naseem is not that good. I think @Mamoon was spot on when he said that he does get alot of these ohhs and ahs, but you never see him get crucial impt wickets. You can get through a naseem over very easily.

Naseem is only difficult when the target is 300+ and you need charge on him with drives.

Haris rauf is garbage. Bowls hit me deliveries and is always blaming the fielders.

Pakistans bowling issue is that shaheen doesnt get a proper partner who can attack in low scoring games. Than our change up bowler is alwyas garabe. Abbas is a good change up bowler.

And lastly, there is not a single good death bowler in pakistan. Shaheen, rauf, wasim jr, abbas are all garbage in death
 
Team which should play the next ODI after CT

Fakhar

Saim

Abdullah

KG

 Agha

Haris

Jamal

Wasim JR

Muqeem

Abrar

Abbas Afridi

In SENA drop a spinner for a new pacer.
Saim and Agha. The others are worse than these pathetic losers. Time to work on good Domestic setup and do the hard yards to find and nurture talent. Naqvi and the whole PCB also need to go. Today was a national embarrassment
 
What he said at the presentation-ceremony sums up his mentality, they go into a crucial match with such a netative mindset: "We wanted to get 280 but their bowlers did really well in the middle overs."

They have lost the match before it even starts, 280, 280 bla bla. 280 is a nothing score in today's cricket, even if you play in UAE. Teams like India are used to score 300+.

Just go out and express yourself, play positive cricket. And who did tell him that he has Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib Akhtar, Saeed Ajmal at his disposal to defend 280?
 
Team which should play the next ODI after CT

Fakhar

Saim

Abdullah

KG

 Agha

Haris

Jamal

Wasim JR

Muqeem

Abrar

Abbas Afridi

In SENA drop a spinner for a new pacer.
I will be honest with you. This current pool of player that is in CT, that toured Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia. These 30-40 players were not bad.

More than the players it was the management who made stupid mistakes and then the decision making of management at the ground.

Just think if we had this squad instead.

1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Kamran
5. Rizwan
6. Niazi
7. Salman
8. Jamal
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf
12. Wasim Jr
13. Muqeem
14. Abrar
15. Arafat / Qasim / Mubasir

We could've fielded this;

1. Fakhar
2. Shan / Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Niazi
7. Jamal
8. Shaheen
9. Naseem
10. Muqeem
11. Abrar
 
Who do you nominate? Serious question
Regarding question asking?

Yara koi bhi ho, thing is half of those soo called journalist are uneducated or are too mesmerized to be sharing a room with a Pakistani cricketer. The only good questions come from Western journalists.

Our journalist focus on too much india friendship, what did kohli said in your ear.
 
What he said at the presentation-ceremony sums up his mentality, they go into a crucial match with such a netative mindset: "We wanted to get 280 but their bowlers did really well in the middle overs."

They have lost the match before it even starts, 280, 280 bla bla. 280 is a nothing score in today's cricket, even if you play in UAE. Teams like India are used to score 300+.

Just go out and express yourself, play positive cricket. And who did tell him that he has Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib Akhtar, Saeed Ajmal at his disposal to defend 280?
We can't set a total and don't know how to chase. Our board has been asleep for the best part of 2 decades. The talent has dried up and the talent that does appear isn't nurtured at the FC level.
 
Our pace attack is flawed.

Naseem is not that good. I think @Mamoon was spot on when he said that he does get alot of these ohhs and ahs, but you never see him get crucial impt wickets. You can get through a naseem over very easily.

Naseem is only difficult when the target is 300+ and you need charge on him with drives.

Haris rauf is garbage. Bowls hit me deliveries and is always blaming the fielders.

Pakistans bowling issue is that shaheen doesnt get a proper partner who can attack in low scoring games. Than our change up bowler is alwyas garabe. Abbas is a good change up bowler.

And lastly, there is not a single good death bowler in pakistan. Shaheen, rauf, wasim jr, abbas are all garbage in death
Defending 240 isn't easy against India.

More than bowling it has always been our batting that under scores under par. In what world 240 is par on this wicket?

Did you see the Australia v England game? 350 is the norm on flat wickets like Pakistan.

In recent past times against India CT17 was the only game where Batters scored over par. That allowed our bowlers to deliver comfortably.

Our current bowlers are not of the 90s. Pakistan was once again short in their runs today.
 
Regarding question asking?

Yara koi bhi ho, thing is half of those soo called journalist are uneducated or are too mesmerized to be sharing a room with a Pakistani cricketer. The only good questions come from Western journalists.

Our journalist focus on too much india friendship, what did kohli said in your ear.
Why don’t you try and set up a one on one interview between me and him.

Iski charsi karahi main banata hoon whilst staying within the realms of respect and decency.
 
I will be honest with you. This current pool of player that is in CT, that toured Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia. These 30-40 players were not bad.

More than the players it was the management who made stupid mistakes and then the decision making of management at the ground.

Just think if we had this squad instead.

1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Kamran
5. Rizwan
6. Niazi
7. Salman
8. Jamal
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf
12. Wasim Jr
13. Muqeem
14. Abrar
15. Arafat / Qasim / Mubasir

We could've fielded this;

1. Fakhar
2. Shan / Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Niazi
7. Jamal
8. Shaheen
9. Naseem
10. Muqeem
11. Abrar
These guys are psychologically beaten. They have nothing to offer anymore.

btw
Jamal should not be in any conversation. His action isn't repeatable on a consistent basis.
 
I will be honest with you. This current pool of player that is in CT, that toured Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia. These 30-40 players were not bad.

More than the players it was the management who made stupid mistakes and then the decision making of management at the ground.

Just think if we had this squad instead.

1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Kamran
5. Rizwan
6. Niazi
7. Salman
8. Jamal
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf
12. Wasim Jr
13. Muqeem
14. Abrar
15. Arafat / Qasim / Mubasir

We could've fielded this;

1. Fakhar
2. Shan / Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Niazi
7. Jamal
8. Shaheen
9. Naseem
10. Muqeem
11. Abrar
You have to identify gaps in the team and figure out who the replacements are.

1) Opener 1= Imam, Replacement Saim once fit.

2) Opener 2= Babar, Replacement Fakhar but fakhar will soon kick the bucket. So who's the Replacement????

3) Saud = Replacement ???? Babar is out of form as well.

4) Rizwan = Replacement??? No replacements sadly but gotta stick with 44 of 80 ball rubbish.

5) Agha = Perfect, no need to swap

6) Tayyab = Niazi? Haider Ali? Hussain Talat?

7) Khusdil = Mubasir Khan even if Khusdil has batted well, bowling wise he's a liability.

8) Shaheen = Replacement???? His form is declining

9) Naseem = Replacement???? Same as shaheen

10) Rauf = ???? Dude is ageing

11) Abrar = fine as is

12) Bench strength????? Sufiyan? Usman?


Lots and lots of gaps to fill.
 
So the guy that you wanted to scapegoat actually had a good tournament lol
 
Babar needs to go and pretty much the whole team. Today was an absolute disgrace
Babar needs a proper coach. Babar is not the issue that people make.

The way shubman and kohli played drives, you need such guys in the upper order who can play such cricket.

Babar needs a proper coach that backs him, gives him confidence to play such cricket.

Babar was something else under Arthur and Misbah. Chalo forget Misbah, not a favourable choice around here, but under Arthur, Babar had freedom.

Pakistan chased away Kirstein and the other coach we had.

Coaches develop teams, back players and develop a system around them.

What happens in pakistan is players are selected, foreign coach is bought in. Now in between some friend of chairman like Saqlaim would gice advice, that advice works, so first they create trouble for the coach, who resigns. Than when performance starts to suck because of no coach, the player who has potential, gets dropped due to non performance. The guy who was giving advices (saqlaim, aqib, hafee, wahab) they than get the job. They than resign while creating a big mess
 
Why don’t you try and set up a one on one interview between me and him.

Iski charsi karahi main banata hoon whilst staying within the realms of respect and decency.
If i had such resources, i would had loved to work in the field of cricket journalism or data research :misbah4

Btw tensports does a show, you should throw question on twitter, they do answer and are giving a signed ball by wasim and waqar
 
Babar needs a proper coach. Babar is not the issue that people make.

The way shubman and kohli played drives, you need such guys in the upper order who can play such cricket.

Babar needs a proper coach that backs him, gives him confidence to play such cricket.

Babar was something else under Arthur and Misbah. Chalo forget Misbah, not a favourable choice around here, but under Arthur, Babar had freedom.

Pakistan chased away Kirstein and the other coach we had.

Coaches develop teams, back players and develop a system around them.

What happens in pakistan is players are selected, foreign coach is bought in. Now in between some friend of chairman like Saqlaim would gice advice, that advice works, so first they create trouble for the coach, who resigns. Than when performance starts to suck because of no coach, the player who has potential, gets dropped due to non performance. The guy who was giving advices (saqlaim, aqib, hafee, wahab) they than get the job. They than resign while creating a big mess
Babar has psychological issues. Everything's in his head. He also of course is lacking selfe belief since runs aren't coming. It's a perpetual cycle.
 
I will be honest with you. This current pool of player that is in CT, that toured Zimbabwe, South Africa and Australia. These 30-40 players were not bad.

More than the players it was the management who made stupid mistakes and then the decision making of management at the ground.

Just think if we had this squad instead.

1. Fakhar
2. Shan/Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Kamran
5. Rizwan
6. Niazi
7. Salman
8. Jamal
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf
12. Wasim Jr
13. Muqeem
14. Abrar
15. Arafat / Qasim / Mubasir

We could've fielded this;

1. Fakhar
2. Shan / Abdullah
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Niazi
7. Jamal
8. Shaheen
9. Naseem
10. Muqeem
11. Abrar

You still want Babar and Rizwan in your team.

Lol.

Chalo, let us lose more tournaments.
 
You still want Babar and Rizwan in your team.

Lol.

Chalo, let us lose more tournaments.
Read again. I said this is the squad I would've went into CT. Most fans had the same squad also.

You're now commenting in hindsight and off this emotional loss Pakistan just experienced.
 
Read again. I said this is the squad I would've went into CT. Most fans had the same squad also.

You're now commenting in hindsight and off this emotional loss Pakistan just experienced.

I have NEVER supported Rizwan or Babar.

Both are mediocre as they come.

IF it were upto me I would have fired Bab, Riz, Shaheen and Naseem post 2023 Word Cup with no ability to come back ever into national colors.
 
Babar needs a proper coach. Babar is not the issue that people make.

The way shubman and kohli played drives, you need such guys in the upper order who can play such cricket.

Babar needs a proper coach that backs him, gives him confidence to play such cricket.

Babar was something else under Arthur and Misbah. Chalo forget Misbah, not a favourable choice around here, but under Arthur, Babar had freedom.

Pakistan chased away Kirstein and the other coach we had.

Coaches develop teams, back players and develop a system around them.

What happens in pakistan is players are selected, foreign coach is bought in. Now in between some friend of chairman like Saqlaim would gice advice, that advice works, so first they create trouble for the coach, who resigns. Than when performance starts to suck because of no coach, the player who has potential, gets dropped due to non performance. The guy who was giving advices (saqlaim, aqib, hafee, wahab) they than get the job. They than resign while creating a big mess
The only reason Babar is still in the team is because besides fakhar and Saim, No one has challenged his position.

A better no 3 doesn't exist unless Agha is promoted but if agha gets promoted who bats at 5? A middle order batter is needed and pakistan finally found a solid one.

But you can't keep babying a player. Excluding injury, Fakhar doesn't get affected by coaches, that's because his mentality is to literally play one way.

Since his debut, all I see is a player who stays in his comfort zone. In his prime all he did was develop one, I repeat one stroke which was to dab it down to 3rd fine leg for an easy single and he changed his stance a bit. His debut stance was a bit shaky and wayward compared to now.

However even in his prime he played strokes and played in a fashion that was safe and secure for him.

You can't be a quality player if you don't learn new things. Babar is not a natural six hitter because he never bothered to learn how to loft. He can loft but you can tell he's not a natural, His sixes are usually ore meditative rather then natural like pointing or Warner or head's is.

Then he has zero unorthodox strokes which granted not all quality batters have but some like Warner did. No sweeps or paddle scoops etc.

Then he he has zero backfoot play against spin. His feet don't move.

This is a batter with technical issues + mental issues. I've changed my mind about calling him a bootleg yousaf as he's a disgrace to yousaf.

It's hilarious that people believe that fakhar is more limited and techincally weaker then Babar due to an unorthodox stance when he can literally sweep, Slog sweep, drive to all.parts of the ground, is the best player of the pull shot in the entire team.and uses his feet against spin the best and has some unorthodox strokes.
 
The only reason Babar is still in the team is because besides fakhar and Saim, No one has challenged his position.

A better no 3 doesn't exist unless Agha is promoted but if agha gets promoted who bats at 5? A middle order batter is needed and pakistan finally found a solid one.

But you can't keep babying a player. Excluding injury, Fakhar doesn't get affected by coaches, that's because his mentality is to literally play one way.

Since his debut, all I see is a player who stays in his comfort zone. In his prime all he did was develop one, I repeat one stroke which was to dab it down to 3rd fine leg for an easy single and he changed his stance a bit. His debut stance was a bit shaky and wayward compared to now.

However even in his prime he played strokes and played in a fashion that was safe and secure for him.

You can't be a quality player if you don't learn new things. Babar is not a natural six hitter because he never bothered to learn how to loft. He can loft but you can tell he's not a natural, His sixes are usually ore meditative rather then natural like pointing or Warner or head's is.

Then he has zero unorthodox strokes which granted not all quality batters have but some like Warner did. No sweeps or paddle scoops etc.

Then he he has zero backfoot play against spin. His feet don't move.

This is a batter with technical issues + mental issues. I've changed my mind about calling him a bootleg yousaf as he's a disgrace to yousaf.

It's hilarious that people believe that fakhar is more limited and techincally weaker then Babar due to an unorthodox stance when he can literally sweep, Slog sweep, drive to all.parts of the ground, is the best player of the pull shot in the entire team.and uses his feet against spin the best and has some unorthodox strokes.

Babar is mediocre as they come.

People get impressed by a few cover drives.
 
Babar needs a proper coach. Babar is not the issue that people make.

The way shubman and kohli played drives, you need such guys in the upper order who can play such cricket.

Babar needs a proper coach that backs him, gives him confidence to play such cricket.

Babar was something else under Arthur and Misbah. Chalo forget Misbah, not a favourable choice around here, but under Arthur, Babar had freedom.

Pakistan chased away Kirstein and the other coach we had.

Coaches develop teams, back players and develop a system around them.

What happens in pakistan is players are selected, foreign coach is bought in. Now in between some friend of chairman like Saqlaim would gice advice, that advice works, so first they create trouble for the coach, who resigns. Than when performance starts to suck because of no coach, the player who has potential, gets dropped due to non performance. The guy who was giving advices (saqlaim, aqib, hafee, wahab) they than get the job. They than resign while creating a big mess
Babar has had 15 years invested in him and when the heat comes on, he freezes. I am a fan but time has come to find others. I think the whole board including Naqvi need to go. We need a professional board that lives and breathes PK cricket. These guys don't care. I was in so much pain that I stopped watching this dross.
 
Babar has had 15 years invested in him and when the heat comes on, he freezes. I am a fan but time has come to find others. I think the whole board including Naqvi need to go. We need a professional board that lives and breathes PK cricket. These guys don't care. I was in so much pain that I stopped watching this dross.
Too young and too classy status updates to too Old and too weary?
 
I have NEVER supported Rizwan or Babar.

Both are mediocre as they come.

IF it were upto me I would have fired Bab, Riz, Shaheen and Naseem post 2023 Word Cup with no ability to come back ever into national colors.
I did but today should be the end of the chapter in the limited forms. It isn't just them. I see no future for 8 of these players.
 
Babar is mediocre as they come.

People get impressed by a few cover drives.
Commentators are forced to appreciate his shot. There is no real honesty in their words. One can sense. Guys like Gill, Rohit, KL Rahul are way more eye-catching playing the same shot. But somehow Babar's PR team have repeated this over and over to create an illusion that he is the only one who plays cover drive in the world. It is a shot literally everyone plays.
 
Bhai you broke peoples heart by batting slow and you’re talking about bravery. What bravery? Why you taking us for a ride bro? Score runs or get out. Don’t waste poor Pakistani fans time like that. You and Saud directly responsible for breaking all momentum
and bringing the target down by minimum 30-40 runs. Kya pagal bana rahe ho logo ko? Do shot baj nyi rahe.
 
The only reason Babar is still in the team is because besides fakhar and Saim, No one has challenged his position.

A better no 3 doesn't exist unless Agha is promoted but if agha gets promoted who bats at 5? A middle order batter is needed and pakistan finally found a solid one.

But you can't keep babying a player. Excluding injury, Fakhar doesn't get affected by coaches, that's because his mentality is to literally play one way.

Since his debut, all I see is a player who stays in his comfort zone. In his prime all he did was develop one, I repeat one stroke which was to dab it down to 3rd fine leg for an easy single and he changed his stance a bit. His debut stance was a bit shaky and wayward compared to now.

However even in his prime he played strokes and played in a fashion that was safe and secure for him.

You can't be a quality player if you don't learn new things. Babar is not a natural six hitter because he never bothered to learn how to loft. He can loft but you can tell he's not a natural, His sixes are usually ore meditative rather then natural like pointing or Warner or head's is.

Then he has zero unorthodox strokes which granted not all quality batters have but some like Warner did. No sweeps or paddle scoops etc.

Then he he has zero backfoot play against spin. His feet don't move.

This is a batter with technical issues + mental issues. I've changed my mind about calling him a bootleg yousaf as he's a disgrace to yousaf.

It's hilarious that people believe that fakhar is more limited and techincally weaker then Babar due to an unorthodox stance when he can literally sweep, Slog sweep, drive to all.parts of the ground, is the best player of the pull shot in the entire team.and uses his feet against spin the best and has some unorthodox strokes.
Babar has had 15 years invested in him and when the heat comes on, he freezes. I am a fan but time has come to find others. I think the whole board including Naqvi need to go. We need a professional board that lives and breathes PK cricket. These guys don't care. I was in so much pain that I stopped watching this dross.
I would still say, we need a proper coaching set up.
You cant just dump babar. Every other player is bits and pieces
 
I would still say, we need a proper coaching set up.
You cant just dump babar. Every other player is bits and pieces
Babar's already worked with top class batting coaches and talent and they all said the same thing

He doesn't listen
 
3. Captain’s extremely cowardly approach as a batter. Shades of the torturous Misbah ul Haq era.

This cannot be emphasized enough. The Pakistan cricket team captain must come clean and explain why he feels that he alone is allowed to play a pace that isn’t what is expected from the rest of the team in their respective batting positions. Since his appointment as the leader, and with glimpses of this approach in the Champion’s cup too, Mohammad Rizwan has habitually become a batter that completely switches himself off from the requirement of the game, almost inviting his teammates to give him the excuse to simply play selfishly and cowardly. Some recent stats:

Champion’s cup: 186 balls faced, sr 80. (poor)

Australia series: 98 balls faced, sr of 75 (not good enough)

South Africa series: 139 balls faced, sr 96.4 (respectable)

Zimbabwe series: 90 balls faced, sr 62.2 (Pathetic)

Tri series: 215 balls faced, sr 79.5 (useless)

Overall since ODI World Cup 2023: 914 balls faced in 50 over cricket, sr 78.62!! This is extremely poor going into a tournament as the captain of a side will need his side to produce scores strong enough on to challenge given that there may not be much on offer for his bowlers. A strike rate hovering around 80 is UNJUSTIFIABLE for a player that has stubbornly cried and insisted on batting in positions where he feels comfortable, whilst many players have been forced to shift around throughout the last 5 years to accommodate him. I do not believe this is a deliberate ploy and is a requirement for Pakistan cricket, unless we have conceded as a nation that is on par with associates such as Norway and Germany. My own opinion is that Rizwan masks his incompetence as a batter with this pathetic approach to bide himself enough time at the crease to find the pace of the wicket to get himself going. This is also being replicated by his friend Khushdil Shah who also needs a long time at the crease to kick off and hit the one shot he has to deep midwicket. A horrendous and rubbish approach that has been the cause of Pakistan’s downfall in the past and still being persisted with by a leader who has learned from his mentor at SNGPL. This pathetic approach will cost Pakistan
 
Babar needs a proper coach. Babar is not the issue that people make.

The way shubman and kohli played drives, you need such guys in the upper order who can play such cricket.

Babar needs a proper coach that backs him, gives him confidence to play such cricket.

Babar was something else under Arthur and Misbah. Chalo forget Misbah, not a favourable choice around here, but under Arthur, Babar had freedom.

Pakistan chased away Kirstein and the other coach we had.

Coaches develop teams, back players and develop a system around them.

What happens in pakistan is players are selected, foreign coach is bought in. Now in between some friend of chairman like Saqlaim would gice advice, that advice works, so first they create trouble for the coach, who resigns. Than when performance starts to suck because of no coach, the player who has potential, gets dropped due to non performance. The guy who was giving advices (saqlaim, aqib, hafee, wahab) they than get the job. They than resign while creating a big mess


Babar is waaay beyond any coachability. His ego will not allow any coach to alter his methods.
 
I would still say, we need a proper coaching set up.
You cant just dump babar. Every other player is bits and pieces
May be you will consider making Babar as all format captain again and he will happily accept it with both hands. There is a limit to everything, you can't give unlimited chances to these players at the cost of team's performance. Babar's ODI career will end like Younis Khan's ODI career if some harsh decisions are not taken now. After this CT guys like Babar, Imam, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem & Haris Rauf must be discarded forever. No coach can do miracle when your players are suffering from superstar syndrome
 
May be you will consider making Babar as all format captain again and he will happily accept it with both hands. There is a limit to everything, you can't give unlimited chances to these players at the cost of team's performance. Babar's ODI career will end like Younis Khan's ODI career if some harsh decisions are not taken now. After this CT guys like Babar, Imam, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem & Haris Rauf must be discarded forever. No coach can do miracle when your players are suffering from superstar syndrome
Where i said he should be made captain.

He needs coaching.
 
Where i said he should be made captain.

He needs coaching.
Oh bhai he is 30 years old. Aur kitni coaching chahiye?

What’s the point if he isn’t going to listen and improve in the first place?
 
Oh bhai he is 30 years old. Aur kitni coaching chahiye?

What’s the point if he isn’t going to listen and improve in the first place?
Bro, he needs a coach to give him a game plan. And if he doesnt listen than bench him.

For important series you bench him and for b teams you drop him. But you need a coach or a director in there.

The coach develops brings more player and than create a competition where babar has to compete for his spot.

But right now even Babar knows that mujhe drop karkay kis ko lai gaye.

But these things can only be done by a coach and a chairman that doesnt interfere and both are least bothered about what media has to say about them.

Nowadays our chairmans are too media savy
 
Where i said he should be made captain.

He needs coaching.
Why someone who is playing nonstop international cricket since 9 years needs coaching? Why you want special treatment for Babar, why not for others? Why can't Babar leave international cricket for 1 year and play domestic cricket? What Babar has offered to Pakistan cricket in last 3-4 years, any domestic cricket would have offered easily provided he gets similar chances
 
Bro, he needs a coach to give him a game plan. And if he doesnt listen than bench him.
Ok I’ll put you on the hot seat

You are the coach, you have the power to give an ultimatum to Babar through a plan/game plan

What is that game plan?
 
Bro i don't understand why pak need to play 3 fast bowlers when 2 geniune spinners would have sealed the game today abrar and sufiyan or even sajid would have won it instead pak keep playing 3 pacers can you plz tell why are they doing it when they know 2 spinners are their strength instead of playing 3 fast bowlers why not 2 spinner and 2 fast bowlers?
That is the point both Rizwan and Aqib kept missing when your fast bowlers have lost you so many matches then replace atleast one of them with a genuine spinner. You cannot compare Khushdil with Axar Jadega, Bracewell as they are much better in both departments then nothing player like him.
 
Why someone who is playing nonstop international cricket since 9 years needs coaching? Why you want special treatment for Babar, why not for others? Why can't Babar leave international cricket for 1 year and play domestic cricket? What Babar has offered to Pakistan cricket in last 3-4 years, any domestic cricket would have offered easily provided he gets similar chances
He doesnt need coaching interms of batting improvement, he needs guidance.

Didnt Younis Khan after having a 20 year long career call up Azhruddin?

By playing domestic cricket and bully bowlers there nothing js gonna help
 
RIZWAN AB BAS KAR DY TU

Listening to your explanations over and over has messed with my mind. You have made a joke of yourselves, you lose every match and then just sit down to give explanations. There is no talent in the Pakistan team. It has been 10 years now if there were any talent it would have shown by now. Every single player on the Pakistan team is mediocre.

End of the discussion.
 
That is the point both Rizwan and Aqib kept missing when your fast bowlers have lost you so many matches then replace atleast one of them with a genuine spinner. You cannot compare Khushdil with Axar Jadega, Bracewell as they are much better in both departments then nothing player like him.
Replace which one? Who’s going to sit down?
 
Ok I’ll put you on the hot seat

You are the coach, you have the power to give an ultimatum to Babar through a plan/game plan

What is that game plan?
If the bowler is bowling fuller and we are in pp anything less than 6 an over would be criminal so i would want to see him play more drives.

If he is playing defensive and not attacking on fuller balls and creating more pressure on incoming players than i wouls bench him.

But before benching i will also have a back up player developed to replace the guy.

The 4 economy would only be justified if the bowler is bowling well, but garbage bowling like Hardik is not justified.
 
I would still say, we need a proper coaching set up.
You cant just dump babar. Every other player is bits and pieces
Maybe. But you can find the best coach in the World and it will have no tangible impact on results. I will go back to what I said earlier but we have a board that has no passion for a cricket, we have a domestic setup that isn't going to nurture talent and doesn't challenge the players. The worst thing I can say is that it will get worse. BD have caught up, Afghanistan has amazing natural talent and boards that are run properly are way ahead.
 

Ahmed Shahzad serious pipebomb

How that shameless Rashid Latif is sitting there and listening to this is sickening
 
Dumb statement by Rizwan, and i wish if there is a rep from pakpassion at this session do through hard questions.

No one said play 5 bowlers, the last question was having another spinner. No where it is a requirement that you need to play 3 full time pacers.

Had we kept sufiyan in the team, or even shadab khan, jamal khan and jahandad khan a combination could had been made.

Every tom dick and harry knows that spinners dominate uae. You dont play 1 spinner here. India went with 6 bowlers.

Hardik pandya isnt that great of a bowler, and bowls 130 short pies. But he fits in the combination well. Jahandad bowls at an equal pace if not faster, so why cant you not makè such a combination.

Forget jahandad khan what about aamir jamal.

Problem is, you want to go with the same garbage of naseem, shaheen and rauf because of the false myth that pace is pace.

You could had gone with the same bowling combinations with india by chlosing the following

1. Shaheen
2. Naseem/ Wasim Jr.
3. Jahandad/ Aamir Jamal/ Abbas Afridi
4. Abrar
5. Shadab/ Sufiyan
6. Khushdil

Great post. I agree with this assessment.

Pakistan got the combination wrong.
 
it’s brutal. Every tournament, same script—false hope, collapse, and then post-mortem discussions that lead nowhere. It's beyond just being bad; it’s like they actively refuse to learn.

There's just no accountability in this set up. It's a stinking mess and there's no hope. Just looking at that Rizwan guy makes me want to punch the walls.
 
Rizwan needs to be honest and admit he played a major part in both losses in this tournament.

He needs to be dropped from white ball cricket until he can learn how to play in the offside.

I would like mods to give @Rana a special foresight award for envisaging this first.
 
Ok I’ll put you on the hot seat

You are the coach, you have the power to give an ultimatum to Babar through a plan/game plan

What is that game plan?

The game plan is to appoint Misbah.
 
Rizwan needs to be honest and admit he played a major part in both losses in this tournament.

He needs to be dropped from white ball cricket until he can learn how to play in the offside.

I would like mods to give @Rana a special foresight award for envisaging this first.
If the saint hasn't been able to adapt all these years, doubt he will be able to now play the offside. Needs permanently booted and agree about @Rana who remained unwavered despite the pushback from the usual suspects.
 
Rizwan needs to be honest and admit he played a major part in both losses in this tournament.

He needs to be dropped from white ball cricket until he can learn how to play in the offside.

I would like mods to give @Rana a special foresight award for envisaging this first.

If the saint hasn't been able to adapt all these years, doubt he will be able to now play the offside. Needs permanently booted and agree about @Rana who remained unwavered despite the pushback from the usual suspects.
I hope they can see the light now. They won’t admit it, but inside they will know
 
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