Well played Bangladesh!

[Peshwa]

Well done Bangladesh

Easily the second best team in Asia Cup

 

[imteaz]

Really? Pakistan will trash bd left and right.

 

[IAJ]

Firstly Bangladeshi fans should be proud of their team. They were very close to win the final and possibly deserved to win it. Shakib’s injury was a real setback as his experience was clearly missed out there.

They have some real talented players in the squad. Mashrafe Murtaza really have been giving over 110% although he also picked up a hand injury against Pakistan. Mustafizur was solid as always and Rubel must have bowled the spell of his life? And I am not fortetting the outstanding ton by Liton Das.

Going forward they need to focus on avoiding collapses as they have many big hitters coming down the order. And also finetune their fielding because the little misfields and overthrows can be very costly as was the case today.

Keep up the good work!

 

[Canford Cliffs]

What well done? Lost twice against India, lost against Afg...just beaten an off guard Pakistan and minnow level Lankan team. How is it well done?

Fact remains, after 20+ years of cricket, they are yet to win a tri series. Its a shame actually

 

[DuckMaster]

BD was easily the 2nd best team of this Cup. Very well done.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There is no second best team. They are all there or there about. Any one can beat the other. Afghanist with experience can beat both of them on their day.

 

[Titan24]

What well done? Lost twice against India, lost against Afg...just beaten an off guard Pakistan and minnow level Lankan team. How is it well done?

Fact remains, after 20+ years of cricket, they are yet to win a tri series. Its a shame actually

Exactly, and some people make them out to be the next World Champions. They surely have improved but still a long way to go.

 

[RainMan_]

Today we have shown yet again why we r the second best team Asia. Today we fielded our second string team against India who played the match with 13 players. It was 11 against 13. Obviously the team that had two extra players have finally won the game.

 

[Titan24]

Today we have shown yet again why we r the second best team Asia. Today we fielded our second string team against India who played the match with 13 players. It was 11 against 13. Obviously the team that had two extra players have finally won the game.

But why your ranking in every format and performance in every ICC tournament (except for rain) says otherwise? And also what happened to the 2nd best Asian team in WI tests (Under 50 all out in two innings)? Also what happened against Afg in T20s 3-0? And recent loss to Afg in ODI?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Today we have shown yet again why we r the second best team Asia. Today we fielded our second string team against India who played the match with 13 players. It was 11 against 13. Obviously the team that had two extra players have finally won the game.

You lost to India in last 12 matches...and in most of those games your superstars like Shakib, Tamim etall were playing

Also India was playing without Kohli and Pandya, probably two players better than anything Bangla produced in their history

 

[RainMan_]

But why your ranking in every format and performance in every ICC tournament (except for rain) says otherwise? And also what happened to the 2nd best Asian team in WI tests (Under 50 all out in two innings)? Also what happened against Afg in T20s 3-0? And recent loss to Afg in ODI?

How? Pls Check ur facts again.

Bangladesh is one of the most rapidly progressing teams in the world at the moment. They were the quarterfinalist of last world cup and semifinalist of last champions trophy. They r 3 times Asia cup finalists and should have won atleast two of those finals.

We were talking about about ODIs. But u've suddenly brought up tests and T20s. But anyway, in tests we've hammered Australia, England, Srilanka very recently and as far as t20s r concerned as I have said it many times already, international T20s r totally pointless unless it's a world t20. Even the world champion Australia lost a t20 series of against Minnow Lanka in their home ground. It means nothing.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

How? Pls Check ur facts again.

Bangladesh is one of the most rapidly progressing teams in the world at the moment. They were the quarterfinalist of last world cup and semifinalist of last champions trophy. They r 3 times Asia cup finalists and should have won atleast two of those finals.

We were talking about about ODIs. But u've suddenly brought up tests and T20s. But anyway, in tests we've hammered Australia, England, Srilanka very recently and as far as t20s r concerned as I have said it many times already, international T20s r totally pointless unless it's a world t20. Even the world champion Australia lost a t20 series of against Minnow Lanka in their home ground. It means nothing.

2 things:

You qualified in semi final of CT only bcoz of rain washed out game vs Aussies.

Also you said you are only talking about ODIs but suddenly brought how you reached Asia cup final last 3 times. Arent you contradicting yourself bcoz last Asia cup was T20

 

[charlie007]

Well played Bangladesh! Your rise is good for Asian and World cricket. Keep working hard and have faith - you'll be lifting a trophy at some point.

For people critical of the Bangladesh team - don't equate their team or players with their fans. Fans just react, players give their hearts out on the field. Have respect and appreciation for that.

 

[RainMan_]

2 things:

You qualified in semi final of CT only bcoz of rain washed out game vs Aussies.

Also you said you are only talking about ODIs but suddenly brought how you reached Asia cup final last 3 times. Arent you contradicting yourself bcoz last Asia cup was T20

Wrong again.

Firstly it was Australia who got benefited due to Rain against New Zealand where kiwis were cruising to victory but Australia got away due to rain. If Australia didn't get lucky against NZ they wouldnt have made it to the QF in the first place. That same NZ team got hammered by us. We were the superior team, hence we played the semifinal.

Secondly, since titan24 brought up tests and t20s in his discussion I had to mention our appearance in the last Asia cup final where T20s were played incase of ODIs to make it even. Hope its making sense to u now

 

[jnaveen1980]

Wrong again.

Firstly it was Australia who got benefited due to Rain against New Zealand where kiwis were cruising to victory but Australia got away due to rain. If Australia didn't get lucky against NZ they wouldnt have made it to the QF in the first place. That same NZ team got hammered by us. We were the superior team, hence we played the semifinal.

Secondly, since titan24 brought up tests and t20s in his discussion I had to mention our appearance in the last Asia cup final where T20s were played incase of ODIs to make it even. Hope its making sense to u now

You are singlehandedly ruining whatever the appreciation, sympathy that is coming towards BD team with arrogant comments.

 

[rhony]

Today we have shown yet again why we r the second best team Asia. Today we fielded our second string team against India who played the match with 13 players. It was 11 against 13. Obviously the team that had two extra players have finally won the game.

8 out of those 11 couldn't score in double digits. Let that sink in before u talk about the mysterious 2 out of 13

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Wrong again.

Firstly it was Australia who got benefited due to Rain against New Zealand where kiwis were cruising to victory but Australia got away due to rain. If Australia didn't get lucky against NZ they wouldnt have made it to the QF in the first place. That same NZ team got hammered by us. We were the superior team, hence we played the semifinal.

Secondly, since titan24 brought up tests and t20s in his discussion I had to mention our appearance in the last Asia cup final where T20s were played incase of ODIs to make it even. Hope its making sense to u now

If I recall correctly, most of Aust matches got washed out. They had to beat BD to reach semi's and they were cruising. BD got all out for 183 and Aust were 88/1 after 18 overs when rain came. The match was heading only in 1 direction but rain allowed BD a fluke entry in semis. And the fluke entry was validated by 9 wicket thrashing by India in the semis.

So no need to boast so much about CT semi final. We all follow cricket and we all know what happened. Your WC 15 quarter final was praise worthy though with a win over Eng.

 

[RainMan_]

You are singlehandedly ruining whatever the appreciation, sympathy that is coming towards BD team with arrogant comments.

The whole cricket world is appreciating Bangladesh. I don't think I have the power to prevent millions of cricket fans from appreciating a team like Bangladesh which also happens to be one of the most exciting teams in Asia.

We didn't need sympathy, we needed a level playing field which sadly we didn't get. Even the neutral commentators LIKE KP was absolutely stunned by the pathetic and biased Umpairing and didn't hesitate to share it on air.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Easily the second best team in Asia Cup

How the 2nd best side?

Pakistan may have been poor in this tournament but that's the worst performance they have given in 15-18 months

In CT Pak defeated 3 of the top sides,BD beat just 1

Pak have been poor against top sides after that but same has been the case with BD

Pak dominated SL & whitewashed them,BD lost a tri series involving SL at their home where they lost 2 out of 3 matches against SL

1 win of BD against Pak won't make them better than Pak
Remember they even got thrashed by AFG in this tournament

 

[RainMan_]

If I recall correctly, most of Aust matches got washed out. They had to beat BD to reach semi's and they were cruising. BD got all out for 183 and Aust were 88/1 after 18 overs when rain came. The match was heading only in 1 direction but rain allowed BD a fluke entry in semis. And the fluke entry was validated by 9 wicket thrashing by India in the semis.

So no need to boast so much about CT semi final. We all follow cricket and we all know what happened. Your WC 15 quarter final was praise worthy though with a win over Eng.

Wrong. U r just shifting the ur goalposts now.

Australia weren't at all unlucky in CT. They were on their way to get a hammering against NZ but got saved by rain. Then they got hammered against England. Even If we hypothetically assume that no matches were interrupted by rain in that group still the points of AUS, NZ, and BD would have been similar and Bangladesh would've reached the semifinal.

And yes, I agree with u regarding the fact that BD played brilliantly in 15 wc but they were robbed off a victory against India in QF due to biased Umpiring just like the way THEY WERE robbed off a victory tonight.

 

[Sherlock]

They done their fans proud, but I bet they're sick of reading & hearing that.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Wrong. U r just shifting the ur goalposts now.

Australia weren't at all unlucky in CT. They were on their way to get a hammering against NZ but got saved by rain. Then they got hammered against England. Even If we hypothetically assume that no matches were interrupted by rain in that group still the points of AUS, NZ, and BD would have been similar and Bangladesh would've reached the semifinal.

And yes, I agree with u regarding the fact that BD played brilliantly in 15 wc but they were robbed off a victory against India in QF due to biased Umpiring just like the way THEY WERE robbed off a victory tonight.

Not true at all. Imagine no game being washed out, Aust and BD would have been at 2 points each. But with superior net run rate Aust would hv qualified. And perhaps they would hv given some fight to India in semis and not got thrashed by 9 wickets like BD did.

BD caught an off guard Eng in 2015 but India was too big a team for BD to beat in quarters. Rohit added only 43 runs after that no ball and BD lost that game by 104 runs. So these crying about umpiring is just to self appease which act as a medicine to hide the lack of quality in the team. 3.5 years without a win against India...hard luck bruv. Try again next time

 

[rhony]

Easily the second best team in Asia Cup

Second best team in Asia is Pakistan. Second best team in Asia cup was Afghanistan.

 

[B_Positive]

Wrong. U r just shifting the ur goalposts now.

Australia weren't at all unlucky in CT. They were on their way to get a hammering against NZ but got saved by rain. Then they got hammered against England. Even If we hypothetically assume that no matches were interrupted by rain in that group still the points of AUS, NZ, and BD would have been similar and Bangladesh would've reached the semifinal.

And yes, I agree with u regarding the fact that BD played brilliantly in 15 wc but they were robbed off a victory against India in QF due to biased Umpiring just like the way THEY WERE robbed off a victory tonight.

There was no biased umpiring tonight or any night. There are one or two wrong decisions in any game. Litton Das for me was out. His foot was on the crease not inside the crease. You guys played well but in the end it was India's game today. They played better. I think you guys should accept this. Even if you dont it doesnt change the fact that you lost. Wrong umpiring decisions can change the outcome of one or two games but you guys lose everytime vs India. So your team is not yet at that level but they are really improving. In same tournament you were thrashed by India but today's game was very close so progressing well. You should concentrate on improvement and not blindly claiming that you were best even when as a neutral it was evident that you werent.

 

[BDfanforever]

Second best team in Asia is Pakistan. Second best team in Asia cup was Afghanistan.

1) India
2) Pak
3) Afg
4) SRL
5) Hong Kong
6) Bangladesh

 

[rhony]

1) India
2) Pak
3) Afg
4) SRL
5) Hong Kong
6) Bangladesh

Best teams are consistent. Only two teams were consistent in this tournament. Afg didn't collapse or lose by a huge margin in any game. They fought and won or came very close to winning in every game. That makes them the 2nd best team of the tournament.

 

[Buffet]

Best teams are consistent. Only two teams were consistent in this tournament. Afg didn't collapse or lose by a huge margin in any game. They fought and won or came very close to winning in every game. That makes them the 2nd best team of the tournament.

Two best teams of this tournament played in finals. That's what finals are for.

 

[axis]

I think BD deserved to win today.

 

[axis]

Two best teams of this tournament played in finals. That's what finals are for.

I think India is struggling, they can't be called the best team with this poor middle order.. they are going to be exposed with a more disciplined BD effort next time.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

I think BD deserved to win today.

From 120/1 to 222 all out and the deserve to win?

 

[B_Positive]

I think BD deserved to win today.

for collapsing like a pack of cards and getting to 222 even after being 120-0. I dont think so. There was only one result after this which happened. They tried and gave it their everything in field but it was still not enough so didnt deserve to win but they certainly played like 2nd best team. Afg was 3rd best and Pak was 4th.

 

[B_Positive]

I think BD deserved to win today.

for collapsing like a pack of cards and getting to 222 even after being 120-0. I dont think so. There was only one result after this which happened. They tried and gave it their everything in field but it was still not enough so didnt deserve to win but they certainly played like 2nd best team. Afg was 3rd best and Pak was 4th.

 

[PakLFC]

Gotta feel for Bangladesh and their fans. They have come close to winning a tournament so many times only for someone to pull the rug beneath them! No one remembers who finished second. India won the tournament is all that matters.

 

[Savak]

Was watching Sunil Gavaskers comments, he believes India and Bangladesh have a much better rivalry given the close nature of their contests and even mentioned that Pakistan and India does not merit the same rivalry anymore given the massive one sided defeats it has suffered very frequently at the hands of India in the last few years.

 

[Executioner]

I just want us to win trophies and have a billion haters

 

[10sion]

How the 2nd best side?

Pakistan may have been poor in this tournament but that's the worst performance they have given in 15-18 months

In CT Pak defeated 3 of the top sides,BD beat just 1

Pak have been poor against top sides after that but same has been the case with BD

Pak dominated SL & whitewashed them,BD lost a tri series involving SL at their home where they lost 2 out of 3 matches against SL

1 win of BD against Pak won't make them better than Pak
Remember they even got thrashed by AFG in this tournament

But we also beat Afghanistan in this tournament.Something that Sri Lanka and even India didnt do this tournament.

 

[10sion]

It was a good tournament for us.

It still doesnt solve a lot of issues.

We still do not have an opener with Tamim, though LKD will be getting that position thanks to his 100. We do not have a reliable spinner. There is no finisher in the team. Mahmudullahs role is definitely not clear. This is the same guy who got 2 100s in 2015 WC and now we want him to finish matches instead of batting at the top and scoring 100s. Shakib at number 3 is not something I am sure of.

We need someone who can just get his eye in quickly and play cameos. Quick 30-40s like Pollard, Asif Ali etc.

Tamim
Liton
Mushy
Mahmudullah
Shakib

should be the top 5.
Anamul/Sumya/ Shabbir (give them the license to pinch hit)
Another pinch hitter who hopefully can bowl a few decent overs too.

Mehedy
Mashrafe
Mustafiz
Rubel /Abu Hider /Taskin if back in form

Clearly we are not ready for the next world cup.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

We have serious batting issues but our bowling (in these conditions) was world class. A very brief review:

Pros
Mustafiz proved he's world class and maintains a sub 20 average after 30+ games
Mushfiq was phenomenal and although he choked [yet again] in the clutch he's had plenty of high pressure successes in his 11+ year career
Mashrafee was inspirational as he almost always is
Miraz emerged as dependable bowler and showed potential with the bat

Cons
Batting is very poor unless all 4 of Tamim, Shakib, Mushy, and Riyad are in the XI
Mithun had patches of brilliance, but I'm not sold on him at all
Liton played an excellent knock, but that 121 was the most un-fluent run a ball ton you will see
Bowling was world class, but on flat tracks will go for plenty
The spin attack is based purely on containment and badly needs a wicket taking wrist spinner

Thats all I could think of for now.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

I just want us to win trophies and have a billion haters

SL doesn't have a billion haters, why do you want haters?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Second best team in Asia is Pakistan. Second best team in Asia cup was Afghanistan.

Nice try with the fake opinion but both those teams combined record vs weakened BD team is 1-2 in the Asia Cup. 2nd best team has lost 4 straight ODIs to us and you have to go back to 2014 to find their most recent win. Zimbabwe has beaten Australia more recently than that.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Nice try with the fake opinion but both those teams combined record vs weakened BD team is 1-2 in the Asia Cup. 2nd best team has lost 4 straight ODIs to us and you have to go back to 2014 to find their most recent win. Zimbabwe has beaten Australia more recently than that.

Why doesn't BD play a full series vs Afghanistan with 2 Tests, 5 ODIs and 3 T20s? Will answer a lot of questions. After T20 whitewash vs them, at least you guys have come back to reality that you are not a good enough T20 team. Play more Tests and ODIs vs them and it may help you see the reality in those formats as well.

 

[KP From India]

Shame and Bangladesh doesnt come together.

 

[KP From India]

Have you seen Jordan runout@2015WC in Ban vs Eng?

 

[Hawkeye]

Congrats BD!

For winning the hearts, yet again! Seems like your team is great at it. Specialist heart winners.

 

[Peshwa]

How the 2nd best side?

Pakistan may have been poor in this tournament but that's the worst performance they have given in 15-18 months

In CT Pak defeated 3 of the top sides,BD beat just 1

Pak have been poor against top sides after that but same has been the case with BD

Pak dominated SL & whitewashed them,BD lost a tri series involving SL at their home where they lost 2 out of 3 matches against SL

1 win of BD against Pak won't make them better than Pak
Remember they even got thrashed by AFG in this tournament

Read my post again
I said in ASIA CUP not in ASIA

 

[Nikhil_cric]

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BD has to improve s lot and need proper fast bowlers - Mash is very slow nowadays. However, the spinners under Joshi have performed extremely well especially mehidy. But most importantly the casual attitude in the field in terms of runouts, catching, Liton s keeping need to improve imo. Similarly, India has huge gaping holes in the batting and hopefully both teams can give their best in the World Cup. India,BD and Afghans were the only teams that played quality cricket in this Asia Cup. Rest played like minnows .

 

[rhony]

Nice try with the fake opinion but both those teams combined record vs weakened BD team is 1-2 in the Asia Cup. 2nd best team has lost 4 straight ODIs to us and you have to go back to 2014 to find their most recent win. Zimbabwe has beaten Australia more recently than that.

You keep saying weakened team but it appears there is no difference. You lost to Afghanistan with Shakib in the team by 136 runs and won against them in a close game without him. Afghans have not been rolled over by any team in this tournament.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Honestly Afghanistan deserved to be in finals. But for the brain fade against BD in super 4 match, would have got there. They were the better team.

If BD and Afghanistan were to play a 5 match ODI series in Asia, AFG will win it. No wonder BD is reluctant to play ODIs vs them, more so after the 3-0 hammering in T20s.

 

[BDfanforever]

You keep saying weakened team but it appears there is no difference. You lost to Afghanistan with Shakib in the team by 136 runs and won against them in a close game without him. Afghans have not been rolled over by any team in this tournament.

Honestly Afghanistan deserved to be in finals. But for the brain fade against BD in super 4 match, would have got there. They were the better team.

If BD and Afghanistan were to play a 5 match ODI series in Asia, AFG will win it. No wonder BD is reluctant to play ODIs vs them, more so after the 3-0 hammering in T20s.

The thread was about congratulating BD on reaching final. If you guys don't want to do that's fine. No one "deserve" to be in the final. Final spot is earned not "deserved."

Why care so much about a team that is supposed to be worse than AFG?

Go open up a separate thread about how good AFG team is. If AFG was the better team, why they failed to beat Pak huh?

 

[Saj]

When Bangladesh started playing international cricket they were timid, they were almost scared of the opposition and were in awe of the players they were coming up against. This has now changed, they believe that they belong in international cricket and their young players are coming into international cricket feeling that they can compete and perform.

These guys will only get better and better.

 

[KP From India]

Congratulatins.....Bd may soon reach no 1 in rankings....

 

[BaankeJi]

Congratulatins.....Bd may soon reach no 1 in rankings....

You think BCCI will let that happen? NEVER!!

 

[MenInG]

You think BCCI will let that happen? NEVER!!

You mean BCCI will do what it can to help its players perform well and deny teams like Bangladesh a chance to go above them

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

They done their fans proud, but I bet they're sick of reading & hearing that.

Not really.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Congrats

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Now a days bd fans also taking these type of loss easily as long as players giving 100% to win those game. Fans are maturing same as players. Hoping for a better show in wc19 from bd boys. Who knows ,it can surprise everyone in the near future.

 

[BaankeJi]

You mean BCCI will do what it can to help its players perform well and deny teams like Bangladesh a chance to go above them

No. I mean BCCI will pressurize umpires of Bangladesh games to give decisions against Bangladesh so that they can never go above India.

 

[topspin]

You keep saying weakened team but it appears there is no difference. You lost to Afghanistan with Shakib in the team by 136 runs and won against them in a close game without him. Afghans have not been rolled over by any team in this tournament.

Honestly Afghanistan deserved to be in finals. But for the brain fade against BD in super 4 match, would have got there. They were the better team.

If BD and Afghanistan were to play a 5 match ODI series in Asia, AFG will win it. No wonder BD is reluctant to play ODIs vs them, more so after the 3-0 hammering in T20s.

Well said - deep down Bangladesh fans know it's only a matter of time before Afghanistan overtake their side in ODIs.

The nerve of their supporters to come up with these BCCI conspiracy theories... I mean just seriously grow up. Bangladesh and Pakistan were lucky to have beaten Afghanistan. Had the Afghans won just won one of those games, Bangladesh wouldn't even have made it in the final, so there would be none of this crying of "BCCI = ICC" crap.

 

[BDfanforever]

Well said - deep down Bangladesh fans know it's only a matter of time before Afghanistan overtake their side in ODIs.

The nerve of their supporters to come up with these BCCI conspiracy theories... I mean just seriously grow up. Bangladesh and Pakistan were lucky to have beaten Afghanistan. Had the Afghans won just won one of those games, Bangladesh wouldn't even have made it in the final, so there would be none of this crying of "BCCI = ICC" crap.

Please dont post nonsense, if you got nothing better to say. Before, Afg can overtake BD they have to overtake WI, SRL, and possibly current Australia.

There is a higher chance of Bd going past Australia and Pakistan in rankings over Afg surpassing BD at least in the near future.

 

[topspin]

Please dont post nonsense, if you got nothing better to say. Before, Afg can overtake BD they have to overtake WI, SRL, and possibly current Australia.

There is a higher chance of Bd going past Australia and Pakistan in rankings over Afg surpassing BD at least in the near future.

You've been struggling against Afghanistan since 2016 as a matter of fact. You may have won that series 2-1 couple of years ago at home but I remember in one of the ODIs they dominated virtually the whole game only to throw it away and lose by single digit no. of runs. They actually played the better cricket in that series.

In T20Is they smashed you guys, so the less said the better. Even though it's a slightly different format it is still a limited overs contest where the fundamentals remain the same. When it comes to best new finds in T20 - whether it be from T20 leagues or success from T20Is they go on to play ODIs, so the fact your side got whitewashed 3-0 is extremely alarming.

In addition in the Asia Cup they got the better of Bangladesh over the two matches played in which they dominated both contests.

If you're going to come up with BCCI conspiracy theories first get the better of Afghanistan first.

This is merely a sign of things to come.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Please dont post nonsense, if you got nothing better to say. Before, Afg can overtake BD they have to overtake WI, SRL, and possibly current Australia.

There is a higher chance of Bd going past Australia and Pakistan in rankings over Afg surpassing BD at least in the near future.

A difference of 25 ranking points (92 for BD, 67 for AFG). A couple of full series with BD in India and AFG will march ahead.

Also, BD play lower ranked Zim and WI, every single loss could lose them 2-3 ranking points

 

[BDfanforever]

You've been struggling against Afghanistan since 2016 as a matter of fact. You may have won that series 2-1 couple of years ago at home but I remember in one of the ODIs they dominated virtually the whole game only to throw it away and lose by single digit no. of runs. They actually played the better cricket in that series.

In T20Is they smashed you guys, so the less said the better. Even though it's a slightly different format it is still a limited overs contest where the fundamentals remain the same. When it comes to best new finds in T20 - whether it be from T20 leagues or success from T20Is they go on to play ODIs, so the fact your side got whitewashed 3-0 is extremely alarming.

In addition in the Asia Cup they got the better of Bangladesh over the two matches played in which they dominated both contests.

If you're going to come up with BCCI conspiracy theories first get the better of Afghanistan first.

This is merely a sign of things to come.

If the fundamentals between T20 and ODI is same, then explain to me how two times T20 Champion WI is rated almost the same as AFG currently in ODIs? Also, explains how Pak got obliterated in NZ in ODIs, but managed to actually win the T20 series?

Even if for the sake of argument Afg won all matches against BD in a tournament, it still wouldn't mean that they are better. Let me give you an example, BD has beaten ENG(you know the team that's been owning everyone in ODIs since the last world cup) both in 2011 WC and in 2015 WC. In fact, in the last five years, BD record against ENG(#1), and NZ(#3) is 7W and 8L. At the same time, IND has 11W 13L record against these two top teams for the same duration. It does not mean that BD is at same level as NZ or Eng.

You are welcome to make a "well played AFG" thread and gloat about how great they are over there.

 

[BDfanforever]

A difference of 25 ranking points (92 for BD, 67 for AFG). A couple of full series with BD in India and AFG will march ahead.

Also, BD play lower ranked Zim and WI, every single loss could lose them 2-3 ranking points

I suppose so. BD management isn't too worried about the rankings to be honest. They are thinking about the long term solutions, and if it means loosing few ranking points in the process so be it.

If we didnt lose that 2nd ODI against WI, group match against AFG, and final against IND, pretty sure we would've gone past 100 rating points now. That would've painted the wrong picture as BD has many batting holes to fill before the next world cup.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

If the fundamentals between T20 and ODI is same, then explain to me how two times T20 Champion WI is rated almost the same as AFG currently in ODIs? Also, explains how Pak got obliterated in NZ in ODIs, but managed to actually win the T20 series?

Even if for the sake of argument Afg won all matches against BD in a tournament, it still wouldn't mean that they are better. Let me give you an example, BD has beaten ENG(you know the team that's been owning everyone in ODIs since the last world cup) both in 2011 WC and in 2015 WC. In fact, in the last five years, BD record against ENG(#1), and NZ(#3) is 7W and 8L. At the same time, IND has 11W 13L record against these two top teams for the same duration. It does not mean that BD is at same level as NZ or Eng.

You are welcome to make a "well played AFG" thread and gloat about how great they are over there.

Fundementally there is a lot of similarity between 50 over and a 20 over cricket with minor caveats. Both played with field restrictions, white kookkaburra balls, short boundaries etc. Yes in ODIs you got to apply that bit extra compare to a t20. But its not that huge a difference as you making it out to be. Test cricket is completely different though with different levels of skill levels required.

Also your WI arguement is wrong. You very well know WI plays its best players only in T20s but most of them dont play ODIs due to issues with board. That is not the case with BD, the still play all its main players in both formats.

 

[KP From India]

@ Rainman, Dear brother please learn to get on with life.We all know all the wrong decisions are against Bangladesh and everyone watches cricket so take a chill-pill.
The truth is that Bangladesh,(at least till now), cant win knockout semifinals/finals.
Please accept this fact.
By crying like this over every incident/non incident, fans like you are demotivating your own team.A winner never give excuses .please accept that this team cant handle a big match pressure.
Yiu are saying what India achieved in first 20 years, we had world cup 1983, world series 1985 both outside India. Please stop non sense comparisons.
Bangladesh has to work hard to improve and the better they get, better will be the world cricket.

 

[KP From India]

Thats why playing against Bangladesh is such a waste of time.If they win, there will be non-human celebrations, and if we win, they cry a river.

 

[RainMan_]

Fundementally there is a lot of similarity between 50 over and a 20 over cricket with minor caveats. Both played with field restrictions, white kookkaburra balls, short boundaries etc. Yes in ODIs you got to apply that bit extra compare to a t20. But its not that huge a difference as you making it out to be. Test cricket is completely different though with different levels of skill levels required.

Also your WI arguement is wrong. You very well know WI plays its best players only in T20s but most of them dont play ODIs due to issues with board. That is not the case with BD, the still play all its main players in both formats.

Difference between ODIs and t20 is huge. First of all, in T20s teams usually don't get a chance to come back in the match. Its very fast paced and most of the time the result of the match depends on how well a team start their innings.

Thats not the case with ODIs. In this format even if a team starts off badly they will still get the chance to recover in the later part of the innings.

3rdly, t20 format is a paradise for useless hacks. Players who don't know how to find the gaps, rotate the strikes but r good at muscling the ball r the usual performers in this format. This very same set of players usually becomes a fish out of water in ODIs because the structure of that format doesn't suit their mindless slogging. Any average team can be a top class t20 team. Look at Pakistan.

International T20s r absolutely pointless, so is its ranking. Nobody takes it seriously. Its played just for fun at the very end of a series and certainly has little to no significance to any of the international teams. There is a reason why a world class test and odi team like SA is at no 6 position in this format while a team like Pakistan that got manhandled by every other team in ASIA cup and resides at the bottom of the pile in every other format is at the helm of t20 ranking.


If u have couple of very good bowlers, few power hitters and a plethora of batting all rounders who can sneak in couple of overs in the middle, then u r good to go in this format.


Now coming back to the topic of the discussion, even if West indies had fielded their main 11 they still would've been the same useless team. The reason is hacks like Russel, Samuel and pollard is good at smacking the ball for 3/4 overs, but tell them to do the same thing for 15/20 overs in ODIs and this very same set of players will go into hiding.

 

[RainMan_]

@ Rainman, Dear brother please learn to get on with life.We all know all the wrong decisions are against Bangladesh and everyone watches cricket so take a chill-pill.
The truth is that Bangladesh,(at least till now), cant win knockout semifinals/finals.
Please accept this fact.
By crying like this over every incident/non incident, fans like you are demotivating your own team.A winner never give excuses .please accept that this team cant handle a big match pressure.
Yiu are saying what India achieved in first 20 years, we had world cup 1983, world series 1985 both outside India. Please stop non sense comparisons.
Bangladesh has to work hard to improve and the better they get, better will be the world cricket.

My dear friend [MENTION=145152]KP From India[/MENTION], I have already moved on. I have accepted the fact that umpires will favour India with their decisions, especially in crunch moments. Its not just me, I think even quite a few international players in the past made the same accusation.

Nobody is crying here my friend. Just stating the facts. Do u know Steve Bucknor my friend. Do u know who ended his career and why? It's almost gauranteed that if BD and IND had changed their positions and India was at the receiving end In place Of Bangladesh, then u can almost be sure of the fact that Rod tucker and that Lankan umpire would've had the similar fate of Bucknor.


As for the achievements of both of these two teams in their first 20 years, I think I don't even have to mention which team has achieved more after their first 15/20 years.

India in its first 20 years of cricket was a no body. They couldn't win a single test in their first 20 years leave alone winning a series, couldn't draw a single test series and got beaten to the pulp by every other teams at both home and away.


Then compare that performance with Bangladesh team, who has already beaten world class teams like Australia, England at home, smashed srilanka in srilanka, West indies in West indies as well as drew tests against teams NZ. Go and compare this excellent performance with the humiliating performance that India displayed in its first 20 years. Then u'll easily realise wfo has achieved more.

I wouldn't have bothered to mention this if few of my Indian friends hadn't questioned the performance of Bangladesh after playing cricket for 20 years. So I just had to show them the mirror, nothing else.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Difference between ODIs and t20 is huge. First of all, in T20s teams usually don't get a chance to come back in the match. Its very fast paced and most of the time the result of the match depends on how well a team start their innings.

Thats not the case with ODIs. In this format even if a team starts off badly they will still get the chance to recover in the later part of the innings.

3rdly, t20 format is a paradise for useless hacks. Players who don't know how to find the gaps, rotate the strikes but r good at muscling the ball r the usual performers in this format. This very same set of players usually becomes a fish out of water in ODIs because the structure of that format doesn't suit their mindless slogging. Any average team can be a top class t20 team. Look at Pakistan.

International T20s r absolutely pointless, so is its ranking. Nobody takes it seriously. Its played just for fun at the very end of a series and certainly has little to no significance to any of the international teams. There is a reason why a world class test and odi team like SA is at no 6 position in this format while a team like Pakistan that got manhandled by every other team in ASIA cup and resides at the bottom of the pile in every other format is at the helm of t20 ranking.


If u have couple of very good bowlers, few power hitters and a plethora of batting all rounders who can sneak in couple of overs in the middle, then u r good to go in this format.


Now coming back to the topic of the discussion, even if West indies had fielded their main 11 they still would've been the same useless team. The reason is hacks like Russel, Samuel and pollard is good at smacking the ball for 3/4 overs, but tell them to do the same thing for 15/20 overs in ODIs and this very same set of players will go into hiding.

Its a made up story by Bangla fans that there is a huge difference between 50 and 20 overs cricket just to hide their failures. You dont get a chance to come back in T20s? Infact its the only format where an over or few balls can change the game completely in your favour. Both these format are played on pattas, in white kookaburra balls, with field restrictions etc. and hence they are called a limited over internationals. Also all international matches have a meaning and all 3 formats are important. Just bcoz BD is absolutely rubbish in t20s due to physically weak cricketers and recently got mauled by Afg, it does not make t20 internationals meaningless.