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West Indies (163 & 244) beat Pakistan (154 & 133) by 120 runs in the second Test, leveling the two-match series at 1-1

PAKISTAN FINISHES LAST IN THE WTC POINTS TABLE 2023-25

No wonder PCB and pakistan fans are didn't want to accept two tiers system in test cricket .

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I think a two tier system for Test cricket will help the games to be competitive which in turn could help grow the Test cricket.
Imagine, pakistan actually beating Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe. That would be a sight to behold!
 
When you make pitches like these, even the Warricans Sinclairs and Moties of the world will look like world beaters.

This is a lesson for any country that make doctored pitches to suit their bowlers. We have seen how India got destroyed by Ajaz Patel and a part time KIWI bowlers in the last Test series. I hope subcontinent teams do not roll out pitches that offer spin from Day-1. Spin should only be a factor from Day-2 or 3. Then only talented bowlers will get wickets while mediocre ones get exposed.
 
When you make pitches like these, even the Warricans Sinclairs and Moties of the world will look like world beaters.

This is a lesson for any country that make doctored pitches to suit their bowlers. We have seen how India got destroyed by Ajaz Patel and a part time KIWI bowlers in the last Test series. I hope subcontinent teams do not roll out pitches that offer spin from Day-1. Spin should only be a factor from Day-2 or 3. Then only talented bowlers will get wickets while mediocre ones get exposed.
India hoped to win the toss lost the 2 tosses. One toss they won they took the wrong decision. Batting first on green top. This lesson we learnt long back with Steve o keefe, kunemann, todd murphy looking dangerous. India had enough intel. So India has no excuse. I think we should be able to start doing well once this Rohit leaves the scene along with Kohli.
 
I think next time Pakistan will go with 9 batsmen and 2 uncles. Won't be surprised if they do that
 
If you actually watched him or checked the records Motie is one of the best all format spinners around. No need to group him with others.

35 Test wickets is enough to be a "giant" of the game?

He's a good bowler and that's about it.
 
35 Test wickets is enough to be a "giant" of the game?

He's a good bowler and that's about it.
My bad I've just scrolled up to see the post you replied to.

Without putting words into @SpiritOf1903's mouth I don't think he's referring to the current team as giants of the game but their historical success.

Motie's only played 11 Tests so not sure what returns you're expecting especially when WI Test pitches predominantly favour seam apart from one or two venues.

If you want to highlight their team's mediocrity, there's better (and more accurate) examples than Motie - namely the entire batting lineup !
 
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