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"We've had information from foreign players & their agents BCCI's pressurising them to not play KPL"

You keep using the word choose, but that's exactly what BCCI is stopping people from doing.

Saj, in practical field, the players are free to choose. Even if they do play in KPL, they can opt for jobs in Australia, UK, West indies, RSA.

BCCI simply said that, there will be repercussions which is limited to India only.

If a player wants more salary, he has to choose India but working in India comes with other limitations.

You can either choose to accept it and earn higher salary or you can choose to opt for other countries and earn less. The power is upon the players.
 
Hilarious to me how far Indian posters will go to defend their blackmailer board. What's most funny though is how they think everything that the BCCI is doing is somehow normal and widely practiced by other sports boards too. No, its isn't and don't lie and say that it is.
 
You really can't get any low than blackmailing someone and threatening their livelihood, which is exactly what the BCCI is doing whether Indian posters admit or not. Obviously players are going to be mindful of future employment opportunities that they may suddenly be deprived of...I don't blame them at all for that. But point is they should never be in such a position because of a political issue between two countries whom they have no connection to.
 
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You really can't get any low than blackmailing someone and threatening their livelihood, which is exactly what the BCCI is doing whether Indian posters admit or not. Obviously players are going to be mindful of future employment opportunities that they may suddenly be deprived of...I don't blame them at all for that. But point is they should never be in such a position because of a political issue between two countries whom they have no connection to.

livelihood?

is working in India is the only livelihood? if they won't work in IPL, will these players be on street? Those players who don't work in India, are they struggling because of not working with BCCI?

Is KPL not paying any amount of money for playing in the tournament?

political issues will affect anyone who gets involved in either of the system.

Don't want these headaches?

Then simply choose one or stay away from both.

They can work in their respective countries. If they lack talent to be chosen by their domestic circuit, then it's not responsibility of BCCI or India.
 
livelihood?

is working in India is the only livelihood? if they won't work in IPL, will these players be on street? Those players who don't work in India, are they struggling because of not working with BCCI?

Is KPL not paying any amount of money for playing in the tournament?

political issues will affect anyone who gets involved in either of the system.

Don't want these headaches?

Then simply choose one or stay away from both.

They can work in their respective countries. If they lack talent to be chosen by their domestic circuit, then it's not responsibility of BCCI or India.

This time BCCI has gone too far and this is beyond embarrassment. I actually thought BCCI is professional institute and now they have proven that there is government interference and they are not independent sport body at all.

There is no point speaking about the rest as they are doing a pretty good job of explaining everything else to the world.
 
livelihood?

is working in India is the only livelihood? if they won't work in IPL, will these players be on street? Those players who don't work in India, are they struggling because of not working with BCCI?

Is KPL not paying any amount of money for playing in the tournament?

political issues will affect anyone who gets involved in either of the system.

Don't want these headaches?

Then simply choose one or stay away from both.

They can work in their respective countries. If they lack talent to be chosen by their domestic circuit, then it's not responsibility of BCCI or India.

Keep the nationalist fervor to yourself. I couldn't care less about it.

They are cricketers. The employment opportunities they will be getting (as a player or analyst) constitute as their livelihood.

Ofcourse not. BCCI only has one responsibility which is to blackmail anyone they can. At the end of the day, whatever has to happen will happen. And I can accept that. But don't go around acting like this is in any way normal. Bringing politics into sports especially this forcefully is a reprehensible thing to do. And you have to be a board that is as morally bankrupt as the BCCI is to follow through with it.
 
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Karachi: The International Cricket Council (ICC) has categorically said to the Board of Control of Cricket in India (BCCI) that the Kashmir Premier League (KPL) is a domestic tournament of Pakistan, sanctioned by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

BCCI yesterday formally wrote to ICC not to recongnize inaugral KPL. President KPL Arif Malik said that ICC have turned down BCCI’s plea.

“ICC said to BCCI that KPL is an internal matter of the Pakistan Cricket. The whole world is making Fun of India after the ICC response,” he said.

ICC’s regulation regarding the approval of an event, clause 2.1.3, clearly states that each national cricket federation shall have the sole and exclusive right to sanction the staging of domestic matches within its territory and KPL is approved by the PCB.

Arif added that despite BCCI’s threats, the morale of organizing league is high and the franchises are also determined to participate in the league.

Arif revealed that in addition to foreign players, efforts are being made to stop commentators and production crews.

It must be noted here that KPL is all set to start from August 6 in Muzaffarabad, Azad Kashmir featuring six teams. Former England players including Monty Panesar, Matt Prior, Phil Mustard, and Owais Shah

Sri Lanka’s Tillakaratne Dilshan and South Africa’s Herschelle Gibbs have announced to play the league despite all pressure by Indians.

ARY
 
Karachi: The International Cricket Council (ICC) has categorically said to the Board of Control of Cricket in India (BCCI) that the Kashmir Premier League (KPL) is a domestic tournament of Pakistan, sanctioned by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

BCCI yesterday formally wrote to ICC not to recongnize inaugral KPL. President KPL Arif Malik said that ICC have turned down BCCI’s plea.

“ICC said to BCCI that KPL is an internal matter of the Pakistan Cricket. The whole world is making Fun of India after the ICC response,” he said.

ICC’s regulation regarding the approval of an event, clause 2.1.3, clearly states that each national cricket federation shall have the sole and exclusive right to sanction the staging of domestic matches within its territory and KPL is approved by the PCB.

Arif added that despite BCCI’s threats, the morale of organizing league is high and the franchises are also determined to participate in the league.

Arif revealed that in addition to foreign players, efforts are being made to stop commentators and production crews.

It must be noted here that KPL is all set to start from August 6 in Muzaffarabad, Azad Kashmir featuring six teams. Former England players including Monty Panesar, Matt Prior, Phil Mustard, and Owais Shah

Sri Lanka’s Tillakaratne Dilshan and South Africa’s Herschelle Gibbs have announced to play the league despite all pressure by Indians.

ARY

No body is making fun of India apart from themselves/
 
Serious question to Pakistani friends here.

Do you really think the only motive behind this league is just to encourage cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir?

Are you telling me there is absolutely 0
Political intent here?

You can either answer these questions to yourself or to me and you will see why there is also a political response from the Indian government via the BCCI. Obviously BCCI will not act on its own and this is coming from powers above them not so different than people above PCB being a part of the KPL too.

Why are we failing to see this?
 
Serious question to Pakistani friends here.

Do you really think the only motive behind this league is just to encourage cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir?

Are you telling me there is absolutely 0
Political intent here?

You can either answer these questions to yourself or to me and you will see why there is also a political response from the Indian government via the BCCI. Obviously BCCI will not act on its own and this is coming from powers above them not so different than people above PCB being a part of the KPL too.

Why are we failing to see this?

You have been on PP for a while now. Do read this interview and let me know where politics is mentioned.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...p-become-superstars-as-well-quot-Taimoor-Khan
 
Serious question to Pakistani friends here.

Do you really think the only motive behind this league is just to encourage cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir?

Are you telling me there is absolutely 0
Political intent here?

You can either answer these questions to yourself or to me and you will see why there is also a political response from the Indian government via the BCCI. Obviously BCCI will not act on its own and this is coming from powers above them not so different than people above PCB being a part of the KPL too.

Why are we failing to see this?

Everyone know the truth of this league but nobody want to face the reality .its is just PR stunt by PCB to politicised kashmir but they will not succeeded like past 70+ years.
 
Serious question to Pakistani friends here.

Do you really think the only motive behind this league is just to encourage cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir?

Are you telling me there is absolutely 0
Political intent here?

You can either answer these questions to yourself or to me and you will see why there is also a political response from the Indian government via the BCCI. Obviously BCCI will not act on its own and this is coming from powers above them not so different than people above PCB being a part of the KPL too.

Why are we failing to see this?

IPL : Indian Premier League
TNPL : Tamil Nadu Premier League
KPL : Karnataka Premier League
SLPL : Sri Lanka Premier League
BBL : Big Bash League
CPL : Caribbean Premier League
PSL : Pakistan Super League

And now another pyjama league KPL : Kashmir Premier League

Now please enlighten all of us how is Kashmir Premier League different from the above mentioned leagues? Why are you and other bhakhts getting triggered over this? You and other bhakhts enjoy IPL and think that IPL helps indian cricket and economy. Why don't you look at KPL in the same way? I am looking at it as another pyjama league with retired cricketers. Why is it looking political to you? :inti
 
Everyone know the truth of this league but nobody want to face the reality .its is just PR stunt by PCB to politicised kashmir but they will not succeeded like past 70+ years.

LMAO the amount of coverage that BCCI and some bhakhts have given to KPL is nothing in front of PCB's PR stunt. Actually you guys have given KPL the publicity otherwise none of us would have known about its existence. It will soon become a household name. :inti
 
Serious question to Pakistani friends here.

Do you really think the only motive behind this league is just to encourage cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir?

Are you telling me there is absolutely 0
Political intent here?

You can either answer these questions to yourself or to me and you will see why there is also a political response from the Indian government via the BCCI. Obviously BCCI will not act on its own and this is coming from powers above them not so different than people above PCB being a part of the KPL too.

Why are we failing to see this?

The only way it will be political if it was organised in Indian control Kashmir. This is organised in an area where Pakistanis are free to roam and do whatever for over 50 years now so what is political?
 
Keep the nationalist fervor to yourself. I couldn't care less about it.

They are cricketers. The employment opportunities they will be getting (as a player or analyst) constitute as their livelihood.

Ofcourse not. BCCI only has one responsibility which is to blackmail anyone they can. At the end of the day, whatever has to happen will happen. And I can accept that. But don't go around acting like this is in any way normal. Bringing politics into sports especially this forcefully is a reprehensible thing to do. And you have to be a board that is as morally bankrupt as the BCCI is to follow through with it.

cricket and politics goes a long way. It was PCB who brought politics in to cricket during 1989-90. Why was RSA apartheid? Why PCB banned its players from playing IPL? Why no country wanted to visit zimbabwe in early 2000s? Why zimbabwe cricket was in crisis?

Its not normal?

open your eyes. Cricket has been politicized by different countries time to time. It has occured so much through out the history that it has become integral part of cricket whether one likes it or not.
 
The BCCI abusing its power is not something entirely surprising. They feel like they are baap of the world and act accordingly so, dragging other nations players into it is ridiculous.

I didnt care for the KPL when i first heard about it but now has piqued my interest, why is the BCCI so concerned about this league when it would have passed by without too much of a flutter.
 
The BCCI abusing its power is not something entirely surprising. They feel like they are baap of the world and act accordingly so, dragging other nations players into it is ridiculous.

I didnt care for the KPL when i first heard about it but now has piqued my interest, why is the BCCI so concerned about this league when it would have passed by without too much of a flutter.
BCCI isn't dragging anyone. It is taking itself out from all the participants of KPL.
 
Keep the nationalist fervor to yourself. I couldn't care less about it.

They are cricketers. The employment opportunities they will be getting (as a player or analyst) constitute as their livelihood.

Ofcourse not. BCCI only has one responsibility which is to blackmail anyone they can. At the end of the day, whatever has to happen will happen. And I can accept that. But don't go around acting like this is in any way normal. Bringing politics into sports especially this forcefully is a reprehensible thing to do. And you have to be a board that is as morally bankrupt as the BCCI is to follow through with it.

Players who support the pakistani position on j and k by playing in this lenge azadi league have no place in India.
 
cricket and politics goes a long way. It was PCB who brought politics in to cricket during 1989-90. Why was RSA apartheid? Why PCB banned its players from playing IPL? Why no country wanted to visit zimbabwe in early 2000s? Why zimbabwe cricket was in crisis?

Its not normal?

open your eyes. Cricket has been politicized by different countries time to time. It has occured so much through out the history that it has become integral part of cricket whether one likes it or not.

All you have given are a couple of isolated examples in the centuries long history of cricket, which amounts to nothing in the grand scheme of things. And for the record, that was a detestable thing for the PCB to do that they shouldn't have done.

And are you seriously bringing apartheid into this? Apartheid was not a political issue, it was a human rights issue. Blacks were literally segregated and treated like sub-humans in South Africa. South Africa deserved to be banned not just from cricket, but every international forum. And they were from many others too.

My eyes are wide open I assure you. And even if one were to take a couple of isolated examples, it doesn't change the fact that nothing like what India is doing has ever happened in the history of cricket.

At the end of the day its just a pathetic thing to do. And India and BCCI should be ashamed of themselves.
 
And are you seriously bringing apartheid into this? Apartheid was not a political issue, it was a human rights issue. Blacks were literally segregated and treated like sub-humans in South Africa. South Africa deserved to be banned not just from cricket, but every international forum. And they were from many others too.

the irony.... what cricket as a sport got to do with black being segregated? Of course it was a human rights issue but what that has got to do with cricket?
 
Players who support the pakistani position on j and k by playing in this lenge azadi league have no place in India.

Its not the Pakistani position bro, its the real-world position. AJK is in Pakistani territory, India has no control over it.
 
the irony.... what cricket as a sport got to do with black being segregated? Of course it was a human rights issue but what that has got to do with cricket?

I think you either don't understand what Apartheid was or you've completely lost your bearings...
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A new role in a cricket league - Shoaib Akhtar has been appointed as an ambassador of peace for the Kashmir Premier League <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KPL2021?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KPL2021</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1422152173492842501?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2021</a></blockquote>
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I think you either don't understand what Apartheid was or you've completely lost your bearings...

No. I actually agree with you. banning RSA was justified. My stance doesn't change here.

But yours changes. if it's human right, then bring cricket. if it's politics, don't being cricket. if it's X, then bring cricket, If it's Y then don't bring cricket.

Your principle isn't consistent and changes from case to case basis.

mine doesn't. I am true to my principle that everything even outside the realm of cricket will affect cricket and everyone should accept it as reality.
 
You really can't get any low than blackmailing someone and threatening their livelihood, which is exactly what the BCCI is doing whether Indian posters admit or not. Obviously players are going to be mindful of future employment opportunities that they may suddenly be deprived of...I don't blame them at all for that. But point is they should never be in such a position because of a political issue between two countries whom they have no connection to.

I want to play in a league which is on disputed land (your country's government considers disputed) and then I want to make money in your country also. I dont care about your national integrity emotion and want to force you to take a stance against your government. And BCCI if you force me to choose one of them, then you are a blackmailer and I am the victim that I cant have my cake and eat it. Who is the hypocrite!! its laughable
 
I guess Karnataka premier league and tamil nadu premier league have sinister motives too.

Why organize them when you have IPL?

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Even if the motives are sinister....and i honestly dont know what that could be.....there was no need for bcci to impose this ban.

Lets stretch the same logic.

One of the common arguments by Indian fans against playing Pakistan is that PCB gets money which Pak government and army use to funds terrorists.

If so, then why hasnt BCCI not banned players fromplaying in PSL?

Dont they see they are making PSL rich...hence Pak govt rich ..hence Pak army rich...hence terrorists get aided?

Dum hai to ABDV and all players ko ban karo....

Stretch it even further...why play Pak in WC games? Isolate them completely by threatning ICC to pull out...

Is that too far?

Who decides whats too far?

You see, all these current gimmicks are bahanas to fool gullible folks for political gains.

And many fall for this hook, line and sinker unfortunately.
Are you being deliberately obtuse bro?

Is Karnataka a disputed land?
I"ll make it very easy -
What's so difficult in digesting the fact that Indian Govt thinks Kashmir is a part of India and hence players playing under this league will be representing what the motto of this league is i. e Azaadi.

Now the same players who root for Azaadi of Kashmir from India should never ever get any kind of work from India isn't that basic logic, for me it is.
You are making this a BJP pseudo nationalistic issue when it actually is a matter of simple national pride and basic logic.
 
People who say that they are representing this or represnting that, people who take part in this league dont represent kashmir the same way people who take part in IPL or any commentary stint in india do NOT represent India, its just that organisation.....the BCCI has made it into an issue of national pride which it isnt.
 
No. I actually agree with you. banning RSA was justified. My stance doesn't change here.

But yours changes. if it's human right, then bring cricket. if it's politics, don't being cricket. if it's X, then bring cricket, If it's Y then don't bring cricket.

Your principle isn't consistent and changes from case to case basis.

mine doesn't. I am true to my principle that everything even outside the realm of cricket will affect cricket and everyone should accept it as reality.

You're not even sounding coherent at this point.

If you can't see how outrageous it is to compare Apartheid (the closest thing to slavery in modern history) to any of the examples you gave, than I see no point in wasting my energy and arguing with you any longer.
 
I want to play in a league which is on disputed land (your country's government considers disputed) and then I want to make money in your country also. I dont care about your national integrity emotion and want to force you to take a stance against your government. And BCCI if you force me to choose one of them, then you are a blackmailer and I am the victim that I cant have my cake and eat it. Who is the hypocrite!! its laughable

The only hypocrite is the BCCI. They give their fans these obtuse explanations that the fans accept with their eyes closed without even questioning them. Where was this moral superiority when India was playing Pakistan in ICC tournaments? or when foreign players were making money in Pakistan by playing in the PSL?
 
A common theme that I see with certain Indian posters here is that they somehow seem to think that by equating KPL's "political agenda" they can somehow absolve their board of its pathetic blackmailing and bullying tactics.

Well I got news for you friends, most people here didn't even know KPL was a thing until India started making a big deal about it. There has been virtually zero marketing/promotion and from what I can tell its full of club cricketers.

Somehow though it was big enough to damage India's ego lol
 
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You're not even sounding coherent at this point.

If you can't see how outrageous it is to compare Apartheid (the closest thing to slavery in modern history) to any of the examples you gave, than I see no point in wasting my energy and arguing with you any longer.

I actually cant fathom your objection since you and both agree on that aspect. We are agreeing yet you are complaining. That's what I am confused about.
 
A common theme that I see with certain Indian posters here is that they somehow seem to think that by equating KPL's "political agenda" they can somehow absolve their board of its pathetic blackmailing and bullying tactics.

Well I got news for you friends, most people here didn't even know KPL was a thing until India started making a big deal about it. There has been virtually zero marketing/promotion and from what I can tell its full of club cricketers.

Somehow though it was big enough to damage India's ego lol

It doesn't matter how big or small or popular or unpopular the message/entity is. No Indian cares about that tournament. It's the use of the tournament as a PR tool is what everyone objecting about.

In that aspect, these kind of threads should be in time pass since KPL is nothing but a PR tool right now.
 
I can reply with logic and facts but I guess it’s useless to engage with your hateful mind. God bless you.
 
It doesn't matter how big or small or popular or unpopular the message/entity is. No Indian cares about that tournament. It's the use of the tournament as a PR tool is what everyone objecting about.

In that aspect, these kind of threads should be in time pass since KPL is nothing but a PR tool right now.

Oh I can tell Indians care about this a great deal. They can't seem to stop talking about it. Here or on social media.
 
Oh I can tell Indians care about this a great deal. They can't seem to stop talking about it. Here or on social media.

of course. we may not care about a tournament but if you'll bring politics in to it which drag India along, of course Indians will be there.
 
It doesn't matter how big or small or popular or unpopular the message/entity is. No Indian cares about that tournament. It's the use of the tournament as a PR tool is what everyone objecting about.

In that aspect, these kind of threads should be in time pass since KPL is nothing but a PR tool right now.

You really can't see how petty this sounds?

I'm amazed
 
Ppers :This league doesn't have any political aspirations.
The league: #KheloAzaadiSe
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Good Lord.

How does kehloazaadise mean anything political? people should play with freedom. Even if BCCI has objection to the song they should limit their objection / displeasure to the song.
 
The only hypocrite is the BCCI. They give their fans these obtuse explanations that the fans accept with their eyes closed without even questioning them. Where was this moral superiority when India was playing Pakistan in ICC tournaments? or when foreign players were making money in Pakistan by playing in the PSL?

Pakistan is not a disputed territory nor does India say its their territory. PoK is for india, Indian territory occupied by Pakistan. You may disagrew with that. But then its India's view that matters when one is going to seek employment in India.

Why shouldn't India play Pakistan in ICC tournaments? Why give pakistan 2 free points? Protest is not to help pakistan.
 
How does hypocrisy is relevant to J&K having a team in ranji with that of KPL?

Why does BCCI have a team in Ranji for the J&K region, and then choose to come after Pakistan for having a league for the same region?

If you can't see the hypocrisy, I don't know what to say.
 
A common theme that I see with certain Indian posters here is that they somehow seem to think that by equating KPL's "political agenda" they can somehow absolve their board of its pathetic blackmailing and bullying tactics.
If there’s political agenda behind KPL, BCCI’s actions are justified. Simple. If PCB had similar power, they would do the same.
 
How does kehloazaadise mean anything political? people should play with freedom. Even if BCCI has objection to the song they should limit their objection / displeasure to the song.

Because cricketers normally don’t play with freedom? Is this some subliminal anti-corruption campaign against bookies?
 
That decision is India's to make. Players supporting the pakistan cause in kashmir are not welcome in India.

Mixing politics with everything else like we're making cake batter aren't we?

Let me ask you this: if you are living in America, are you automatically a Biden supporter?

If you are living in India, are you automatically a fan of Modi?

If you work for a company, are you automatically entitled to agree with whatever the company does?

Let's say I work for company A, and it was one of the only companies which did not make a public statement regarding a trend happening. Are you to assume that I don't accept or support that trend?

Players can participate in a league like the KPL without having any political ties with the purpose. In fact, it is a league, not a political propaganda tool.

My point is that the BCCI is literally assuming that a league is a political tool whereas I don't think that is true at all. It is an assignment, a way for these retired players to earn.

How do you know Gibbs or Monty support Pakistan's view? They are most likely doing it just for the money.

The point I'm trying to make which people aren't understanding is that by doing a particular action, you cannot assume my cause for doing the action.

From your point, I can understand that KPL might seem like a political tool, but one cannot rely on assumptions.

Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?

If anyone believes that foreign players, or outsiders, need to alter their viewpoints, their perspectives, and their beliefs to be included in your activities, it only proves that you are thinking from an extremely nationalistic sense and that you are afraid of having your own viewpoints challenged.

A fun fact if you're interested, most companies and businesses around the world have strict rules and regulations against talking about politics in the workspace. Sports can be considered as a business, the PSL can be considered as a company or an organization, so can KPL.

It is not required that if you participate in an activity, that someone else can assume the reasons as to why you are indulging in it.

Have you ever worn a T-shirt before? By wearing clothing, are you supporting the unpaid labor in the sweatshops across the subcontinent?

By your logic, your employer should be able to dictate everything about your life, the food you eat, your favorite Youtube channel, what socks you wear, and who knows what else.

The point is that one should not mix politics with every other aspect of society.
 
That decision is India's to make. Players supporting the pakistan cause in kashmir are not welcome in India.

And how come playing cricket or coaching cricketers mean they are helping with anything political? They have no political qualification etc?
 
Why does BCCI have a team in Ranji for the J&K region, and then choose to come after Pakistan for having a league for the same region?

If you can't see the hypocrisy, I don't know what to say.

PCB is free to do whatever it wants or it can to stop the J and K team from playing.
 
And how come playing cricket or coaching cricketers mean they are helping with anything political? They have no political qualification etc?
Because the whole purpose of organising the league is political. Listen to Shehryar Afridi & Faisal Javed Khan’s comments at the KPL Draft.
 
Because the whole purpose of organising the league is political. Listen to Shehryar Afridi & Faisal Javed Khan’s comments at the KPL Draft.

But how are training cricketers helping? Its plain simple there is nothing political about training cricketers.
 
Consider this “lath maar “ logic , not for the first time, on social media and I start losing empathy for endless crying of Indians in US against H1B quotas
 
So the alegations were proven to be true.

At first, I too found it hard to believe but sad to see it to be true.

BCCI is practically headed by Jay Shah.

A complete and utter dakkan of the first order.

Awaiting some weak lame excuse in 3....2....1.

imagine how much baffoon would be his Dad Amit Shah apparently the king maker of Modi the muppet!
 
Mixing politics with everything else like we're making cake batter aren't we?

Let me ask you this: if you are living in America, are you automatically a Biden supporter?

If you are living in India, are you automatically a fan of Modi?

If you work for a company, are you automatically entitled to agree with whatever the company does?

Let's say I work for company A, and it was one of the only companies which did not make a public statement regarding a trend happening. Are you to assume that I don't accept or support that trend?

Players can participate in a league like the KPL without having any political ties with the purpose. In fact, it is a league, not a political propaganda tool.

My point is that the BCCI is literally assuming that a league is a political tool whereas I don't think that is true at all. It is an assignment, a way for these retired players to earn.

How do you know Gibbs or Monty support Pakistan's view? They are most likely doing it just for the money.

The point I'm trying to make which people aren't understanding is that by doing a particular action, you cannot assume my cause for doing the action.

From your point, I can understand that KPL might seem like a political tool, but one cannot rely on assumptions.

Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?

If anyone believes that foreign players, or outsiders, need to alter their viewpoints, their perspectives, and their beliefs to be included in your activities, it only proves that you are thinking from an extremely nationalistic sense and that you are afraid of having your own viewpoints challenged.

A fun fact if you're interested, most companies and businesses around the world have strict rules and regulations against talking about politics in the workspace. Sports can be considered as a business, the PSL can be considered as a company or an organization, so can KPL.

It is not required that if you participate in an activity, that someone else can assume the reasons as to why you are indulging in it.

Have you ever worn a T-shirt before? By wearing clothing, are you supporting the unpaid labor in the sweatshops across the subcontinent?

By your logic, your employer should be able to dictate everything about your life, the food you eat, your favorite Youtube channel, what socks you wear, and who knows what else.

The point is that one should not mix politics with every other aspect of society.

these words are gold and should be grinded in Jay Shah's mind

''Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?''
 
Ppers :This league doesn't have any political aspirations.
The league: #KheloAzaadiSe
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Good Lord.

I am sure you are way more sensible and wise than this dumb reply. Probably nationalism is getting better of you. Don't worry you are not alone. Modi the muppet and Amit Shah has produced whole lot of extreme nationalists and religious fanatics!!!
 
You are making it sound as if they are going to use AK47 as a bat and grenade as a ball in their league. Some of you get too defensive when anyone criticises IPL. You call them jealous and try to prove that IPL is helping indian economy and providing entertainment to indians. Now same can't be said about KPL because it hurts our ego? You and others are crying now but you guys have forgotten that BCCI also has anti-pakistani agenda. Why do they boycott Pakistan and not play any bilaterals against them? Think. :genius :inti

Thank you!
The bigotry in some of these guys is utterly miserable for their own selves.
 
Mixing politics with everything else like we're making cake batter aren't we?

Let me ask you this: if you are living in America, are you automatically a Biden supporter?

If you are living in India, are you automatically a fan of Modi?

If you work for a company, are you automatically entitled to agree with whatever the company does?

Let's say I work for company A, and it was one of the only companies which did not make a public statement regarding a trend happening. Are you to assume that I don't accept or support that trend?

Players can participate in a league like the KPL without having any political ties with the purpose. In fact, it is a league, not a political propaganda tool.

My point is that the BCCI is literally assuming that a league is a political tool whereas I don't think that is true at all. It is an assignment, a way for these retired players to earn.

How do you know Gibbs or Monty support Pakistan's view? They are most likely doing it just for the money.

The point I'm trying to make which people aren't understanding is that by doing a particular action, you cannot assume my cause for doing the action.

From your point, I can understand that KPL might seem like a political tool, but one cannot rely on assumptions.

Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?

If anyone believes that foreign players, or outsiders, need to alter their viewpoints, their perspectives, and their beliefs to be included in your activities, it only proves that you are thinking from an extremely nationalistic sense and that you are afraid of having your own viewpoints challenged.

A fun fact if you're interested, most companies and businesses around the world have strict rules and regulations against talking about politics in the workspace. Sports can be considered as a business, the PSL can be considered as a company or an organization, so can KPL.

It is not required that if you participate in an activity, that someone else can assume the reasons as to why you are indulging in it.

Have you ever worn a T-shirt before? By wearing clothing, are you supporting the unpaid labor in the sweatshops across the subcontinent?

By your logic, your employer should be able to dictate everything about your life, the food you eat, your favorite Youtube channel, what socks you wear, and who knows what else.

The point is that one should not mix politics with every other aspect of society.

POTW and should put some Indians in their place.
 
the irony.... what cricket as a sport got to do with black being segregated? Of course it was a human rights issue but what that has got to do with cricket?

There were black and colored players in SA who were getting discriminated and sidelined by SA. Thats why they were banned check Basil Dolly story and you would understand. If KPL is political league than so is IPL. It has a team with camouflage in their jersey.
 
these words are gold and should be grinded in Jay Shah's mind

''Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?''

What this whole episode tells you is that you are either with the Indian Government or against them
A patriot or a traitor.

God forbid what they would do if an Indian were to sympathise with the people of Kashmir and support their independence
 
Look I do think what BCCI is doing is political, no one is making any excuses for that.

However it is hilarious seeing arguments like rich Kashmiris want to see a cricket league, developing cricket of Kashmir being a top
Priority etc.

There are 5 other ways I can think of developing cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir without all this hype.

Anyways who has the power controls as simple as that. There is no chest thumping here. Is it that surreal when I say BCCI controls cricket?

Why did Pakistan boycott Moscow Olympics. Was it because they were having a Cold War with Russia?

Simple you bring up a controversial topic no
Matter how “noble” your intentions are, the powers that control would only like to see it their way.

That’s the way world works.
 
these words are gold and should be grinded in Jay Shah's mind

''Do all players participating in the IPL support the Modi government? Do you think that everyone has to agree with your government in order to seek employment? That is called an authoritarian mindset and is a breach of the personal freedoms that people have. It is also a form of discrimination, that is, discriminating people based on their political viewpoints.

Do you believe that it is right to breach someone's personal freedoms? Do you also believe that it is right to discriminate against people based on their political ideology?''

I have quite a few Indian friends here. We play cricket together, our kids play together, our wives go shopping together. There are many, many Indians who are not only very wise but honest, polite, very sensible and friendly human beings. So it will be unfair to smear all Indians with one brush stroke.

However, with the kind of morons who are running the current Indian govt, I would the say, the answer to all your questions by Jay Shah, would be a blunt "YES!"
 
There were black and colored players in SA who were getting discriminated and sidelined by SA. Thats why they were banned check Basil Dolly story and you would understand. If KPL is political league than so is IPL. It has a team with camouflage in their jersey.

I already stated twice that I agreed with the banning and I too see it as justified.

I don't see where is the objection since we both are on the same page.
 
I already stated twice that I agreed with the banning and I too see it as justified.

I don't see where is the objection since we both are on the same page.

What does KPL have to do with Apartheid? You are just making no sense atm.
 
Look I do think what BCCI is doing is political, no one is making any excuses for that.

However it is hilarious seeing arguments like rich Kashmiris want to see a cricket league, developing cricket of Kashmir being a top
Priority etc.

There are 5 other ways I can think of developing cricket on the Pakistan side of Kashmir without all this hype.

Anyways who has the power controls as simple as that. There is no chest thumping here. Is it that surreal when I say BCCI controls cricket?

Why did Pakistan boycott Moscow Olympics. Was it because they were having a Cold War with Russia?

Simple you bring up a controversial topic no
Matter how “noble” your intentions are, the powers that control would only like to see it their way.

That’s the way world works.

Ok tell me how can cricket be developed in Kashmir?
 
I have quite a few Indian friends here. We play cricket together, our kids play together, our wives go shopping together. There are many, many Indians who are not only very wise but honest, polite, very sensible and friendly human beings. So it will be unfair to smear all Indians with one brush stroke.

However, with the kind of morons who are running the current Indian govt, I would the say, the answer to all your questions by Jay Shah, would be a blunt "YES!"

The Indian government doesn’t work keeping your sensibilities in mind.

Rest of the post is fair so have nothing much to add there
 
of course. we may not care about a tournament but if you'll bring politics in to it which drag India along, of course Indians will be there.

Nah I think y'all just assumed this was about you when it really wasn't.
 
Ok tell me how can cricket be developed in Kashmir?

How many Kashmiri cricketers born and raised in Kashmir have played for Pakistan or in relevant format even in the PSL ? I am not talking about some guy who traces his lineage to Kashmir.

For example I will exclude a guy like Raina who is a Kashmiri Pandit but Abdul Samad is from Kashmir and he might even end up playing for india the way we are trying it reserves these days and then there was that Dar kid who played for Mumbai Indians a few seasons ago and a few other names I am missing.

A decent and popular cricketer like Irfan Pathan has been given the responsibility of the domestic team of Kashmir on the Indian side.

How about those 2 for a start?
 
If there’s political agenda behind KPL, BCCI’s actions are justified. Simple. If PCB had similar power, they would do the same.

How do you know that? Do you have a magic crystal ball that allows you to see alternate realities?
 
A totally irrelevant league was happening in which almost no one had any interest has been shot to the limelight by Indian foolishness. Amazing own goal by BCCI. Incredible how clarity of thinking goes right out of the window once you give some semblance of power to some people.

The next own goal would be BCCI running to launch a Kashmir League of their own.
 
A totally irrelevant league was happening in which almost no one had any interest has been shot to the limelight by Indian foolishness. Amazing own goal by BCCI. Incredible how clarity of thinking goes right out of the window once you give some semblance of power to some people.

The next own goal would be BCCI running to launch a Kashmir League of their own.

Actually BCCI was doing it silently, it was Gibbs a guy who finds employment only in Pakistan who tweeted about it due to which it became news so make whatever of that. Also a guy not exactly popular for his integrity during his playing days. So there is that
 
Nah I think y'all just assumed this was about you when it really wasn't.

I disagree since KPL is portrayed like the following:

Imran Ismail on this occasion said that KPL in Azad Kashmir will give a clear message to world that there is peace on this side of Kashmir while life has become difficult for people in Indian-held Kashmir.

“This is evidence to the world, they can see how different these two parts of Kashmir are,” he said at the launch of KPL.


then,

MNA and Chairman of Parliamentary Committee on Kashmir Shehryar Afridi through video link said that all stakeholders stand behind KPL. He said that it is a high-time to show that what is happening on the other side of the border and this side of the border. He said that the would will also own KPL.

again,

Federal Minister for Economic Affairs Omar Ayub believed the Kashmir Premier League (KPL) has echoed voices of concern in the neighbouring country India, as a league would run in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) whereas the Indian Illegally-Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJ&K) was kept under fear and captivity. “KPL was a golden opportunity for the Kashmiri cricketers to prove their mettle and show the world what Kashmir really is,” he said while addressing the logo unveiling ceremony of SRG KPL here at a local hotel. He urged the players to come on front foot and play with courage just like our leader Prime Minister Imran Khan who has raised the cause of Kashmir in the whole world. “I want the players to play freely and live bravely. Where India has spread fear in IIOJ&K, the KPL will be played with freedom and courage in AJK showing the world the real and actual face of Kashmir. The colour of the league will cross the line of control (LoC) from Muzaffarabad,” he said. He also lauded the KPL management saying they deserve congratulations. “I will land in the stadium while paragliding during KPL,” he said.

We didn't bring ourselves to this. Your people did.
 
I disagree since KPL is portrayed like the following:

Imran Ismail on this occasion said that KPL in Azad Kashmir will give a clear message to world that there is peace on this side of Kashmir while life has become difficult for people in Indian-held Kashmir.

“This is evidence to the world, they can see how different these two parts of Kashmir are,” he said at the launch of KPL.


then,

MNA and Chairman of Parliamentary Committee on Kashmir Shehryar Afridi through video link said that all stakeholders stand behind KPL. He said that it is a high-time to show that what is happening on the other side of the border and this side of the border. He said that the would will also own KPL.

again,

Federal Minister for Economic Affairs Omar Ayub believed the Kashmir Premier League (KPL) has echoed voices of concern in the neighbouring country India, as a league would run in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) whereas the Indian Illegally-Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJ&K) was kept under fear and captivity. “KPL was a golden opportunity for the Kashmiri cricketers to prove their mettle and show the world what Kashmir really is,” he said while addressing the logo unveiling ceremony of SRG KPL here at a local hotel. He urged the players to come on front foot and play with courage just like our leader Prime Minister Imran Khan who has raised the cause of Kashmir in the whole world. “I want the players to play freely and live bravely. Where India has spread fear in IIOJ&K, the KPL will be played with freedom and courage in AJK showing the world the real and actual face of Kashmir. The colour of the league will cross the line of control (LoC) from Muzaffarabad,” he said. He also lauded the KPL management saying they deserve congratulations. “I will land in the stadium while paragliding during KPL,” he said.

We didn't bring ourselves to this. Your people did.
It’s freedom of Speech.

Now BCCI has exposed itself as some kind of Cheap version of Israel to the wold
 
Pakistan is not a disputed territory nor does India say its their territory. PoK is for india, Indian territory occupied by Pakistan. You may disagrew with that. But then its India's view that matters when one is going to seek employment in India.

Why shouldn't India play Pakistan in ICC tournaments? Why give pakistan 2 free points? Protest is not to help pakistan.

Oh so BCCI can only take a moral stand as long as its convenient for them? Nationalism and 'morals' go right out the window when its about 2 points?

Countries who are actually serious about taking moral stands forfeit games. Iran has forfeited games against Israel in nearly every sport they have been scheduled to play them in the last 20 years, including the Olympics which are far more important than a T20 World Cup.

Just admit your board is a hypocrite that can only take 'moral stands' as long as its convenient for it to dos so.
 
Actually BCCI was doing it silently, it was Gibbs a guy who finds employment only in Pakistan who tweeted about it due to which it became news so make whatever of that. Also a guy not exactly popular for his integrity during his playing days. So there is that

How many editions of the IPL did Gibbs play in?
 
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