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What’s the future of Indian ODI cricket after ICC 2023 World Cup?

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Honestly, they just need to move on from the players they’ve had for a long time, no matter how well they’ve been playing. They’re great players who will dominate bilateral series, look unbeatable in group stage matches, but continue to come short when it matters most. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t have “it.”

Also, get rid of nothing players like Rahul who smash 60 ball centuries when there’s no pressure but who go into their shell when they’re needed. Also, Mohammad Siraj is a fine opening bowler - he’s good at extracting swing - but he’s clearly the weakest part of the fast bowling line up. He should’ve been replaced by Shami much earlier and other combinations considered.
 
Rohit is definitely not left much cricket and he is not fit either.
Shami is also not playing next world cup so is Jadeja
Bumrah is not going anywhere and he has age with him so he is playing the next world cup assuming he is fit .
What about Virat ?
 
Half of the team should retire because they are wrong side of age anyway.
 
not an india fan but if you want to build for 2027 the easy chops are sharma and jadeja, sharma will be 40+ in 2027 and jadeja will be surplus to requirements.

harder decision on kohli, hes a gun player but will be 39 in SA. then theres shami, guess keep playing him as long as hes fit because there are no real back ups for him.

easiest replacement is jaiswal for sharma. dont know who can replace jadeja, hes pbly one of the best players india has had over the last ten years.

dont think theres anyone banging down the doors for selection beyond that, so the core will stay the same, just older.
 
It will be exciting to see the next generation step up.

You would think that this is the last world cup for most of the current batch so they will probably be phased out soon.
 
The biggest worry will be Bumrah and Shami. Both will will 34 and 37(officially) respectively comes next WC. They need to find replacement incase these two don't play next WC. India had their best bowling assembled ever in their history, it will quite a task to match this bowling level without these two in four years.

Batting is not a concern for India as they have a lot of young batting talent coming up
 
shah_1 said:
The biggest worry will be Bumrah and Shami. Both will will 34 and 37(officially) respectively comes next WC. They need to find replacement incase these two don't play next WC. India had their best bowling assembled ever in their history, it will quite a task to match this bowling level without these two in four years.

Batting is not a concern for India as they have a lot of young batting talent coming up
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They are not going to match this bowling.
 
Two Indian players i am excited about are Ravi Bishnoi and Rinku Singh.

Ravi Bishnoi is going to be a big issue for Pakistan. A very good spinner than is being trained further
 
Buffet said:
They are not going to match this bowling.
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Yup

Also Axar is not at the same level as Jadeja when it comes to bowling. They need to find some wonderkids from U19 level. Kartik Tyagi was bowling 150kph+ recently, he could be a decent prospect.
 
shah_1 said:
Yup

Also Axar is not at the same level as Jadeja when it comes to bowling. They need to find some wonderkids from U19 level. Kartik Tyagi was bowling 150kph+ recently, he could be a decent prospect.
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Karthik tyagi and mayank yadav both are good young prospect who can bowl with good Speed. Prasidh Krishna is well suited for South African pitch as he is a hit the deck bowler .
 
Major said:
Two Indian players i am excited about are Ravi Bishnoi and Rinku Singh.

Ravi Bishnoi is going to be a big issue for Pakistan. A very good spinner than is being trained further
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Yeah rinku singh could become a better plyer specially in ODIs if he gets a chance to play at the position where surya is playing right now.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Yeah rinku singh could become a better plyer specially in ODIs if he gets a chance to play at the position where surya is playing right now.
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I would had preferred Rinku here.

But that spinner Ravi Bishnoi is someone to watch out for. He bowls leg spin really fast.
 
Indian tail need to improve batting.

They barely contribute anything meaningful with the bat currently.
 
shah_1 said:
Yup

Also Axar is not at the same level as Jadeja when it comes to bowling. They need to find some wonderkids from U19 level. Kartik Tyagi was bowling 150kph+ recently, he could be a decent prospect.
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Rarely I have seen 5 good bowlers on same side in ODI. Actually all 5 of them, at least 4 of them were more than good.

Indians can may be find some prospects, but I doubt that will get this good a bowling unit.
 
Major said:
I would had preferred Rinku here.

But that spinner Ravi Bishnoi is someone to watch out for. He bowls leg spin really fast.
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Ravi bishnoi apart from Googly don't have any variation so far. If someone attack him then he can easily go for plenty
 
One last hurrah for this set of players in the CT2025

More because of sentimental value. One last time, Kohli, Sharma, Shami, Jadeja, Ashwin should play as a unit in Pakistan.
 
Rohit and Kohli should go out on their own terms so they can start a new cycle.
 
For 24T20 WC for sure - they should leave out rohit kohli klrahul jadeja Ash shardul . A comprehensive revamp for T20. Get in jaiswal tilak rinku kishan bishnoi dubey etc..You cant have even 1 tuk tuk player in T20 and exceptional fielder's as well

But for odi not totally sure as there is CT coming up in 2025- from the above maybe rohit and kohli can continue. They were not responsible for today's loss. It was no intent by klrahul and jadeja. Klrahul needs to be replaced by ishaan kishan. CT will again be on subcontinent tracks.
 
Players who probably won’t be around in 4 years:

1. Rohit (replace with Ishan)
2. Kohli (replace with Gill at 3, Padikal open)
3. KL (Pant Keeper/bat)
4. Surya
5. Shami (Time to build Umran Malik)
6. Jadeja (hard to replace)
 
Rana said:
One last hurrah for this set of players in the CT2025

More because of sentimental value. One last time, Kohli, Sharma, Shami, Jadeja, Ashwin should play as a unit in Pakistan.
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Yes but not sure how fit they will be in 2025 . Kohli is not a problem but Rohit is not looking in great shape
 
Aman said:
Rohit and Kohli should go out on their own terms so they can start a new cycle.
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Sorry but nobody is entitled. It's a privilege playing for your country 1 game or 100 games. The nation doesn't owe anyone anything- you are the absolute privileged 11 playing from a nation of 1.5 billion people.
If you are not the best 11 then you have no place in the team period. Its competitive sport out there
 
The best thing Rohit and Kohli could say or announce is:

“2025 Champion’s trophy in Pakistan will be our last tournament for India in ODI cricket”
 
Rana said:
Players who probably won’t be around in 4 years:

1. Rohit (replace with Ishan)
2. Kohli (replace with Gill at 3, Padikal open)
3. KL (Pant Keeper/bat)
4. Surya
5. Shami (Time to build Umran Malik)
6. Jadeja (hard to replace)
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You're forgetting next big things - Jaiswal . definitely he will open or play at 3
 
deltexas said:
Sorry but nobody is entitled. It's a privilege playing for your country 1 game or 100 games. The nation doesn't owe anyone anything- you are the absolute privileged 11 playing from a nation of 1.5 billion people.
If you are not the best 11 then you have no place in the team period. Its competitive sport out there
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No I mean they should retire on their own rather than having selectors have to drop them. Even if they can contribute they will not be factors for the next WC so retire on your own or be dropped without further selection in sight.
 
Jaiswal
Kishan
Gill
Iyer
Pant
Pandya (c)

That’s a solid top 6
 
Aman said:
No I mean they should retire on their own rather than having selectors have to drop them. Even if they can contribute they will not be factors for the next WC.
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We can hear any announcement in next few days otherwise they are going to play champion trophy
 
Aman said:
No I mean they should retire on their own rather than having selectors have to drop them. Even if they can contribute they will not be factors for the next WC so retire on your own or be dropped without further selection in sight.
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Absolutely. If they retire then good. But if not selectors should drop them. Nobody can force A player to resign - it's their call how long they want to play their choice. But they can be dropped and also honestly think they can play CT 25 because they have performed well and also it is in the subcontinent.
27 WC has to be a bridge too far though and it's in sa.
 
Aman said:
Which would be stupid and selfish. Their time is over and India need to build.

Tests they can continue but it's over in LOIs.
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I think they will play here and there and give youngsters chances for grooming .
 
Rana said:
Players who probably won’t be around in 4 years:

1. Rohit (replace with Ishan)
2. Kohli (replace with Gill at 3, Padikal open)
3. KL (Pant Keeper/bat)
4. Surya
5. Shami (Time to build Umran Malik)
6. Jadeja (hard to replace)
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Bumrah is another player. He has got such stressful action, he has lost pace since his comeback yet he has been so good. I expect injuries to take a toll on him as he gets older.
 
Rana said:
Let’s see. Just once, the fans of Pakistan deserve to see these legends perform in Pakistan. They have always given them a lot of love and respect.
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The tournament won’t be held in Pakistan ( or at least the Indian team won’t be there)
We will go through the all the nonsense, PCB will threaten etc and in the end the BCCI will not travel the team there, the ICC will acquiesce and we will all move on.
 
gibsyhesperis said:
The tournament won’t be held in Pakistan ( or at least the Indian team won’t be there)
We will go through the all the nonsense, PCB will threaten etc and in the end the BCCI will not travel the team there, the ICC will acquiesce and we will all move on.
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InshaAllah it will happen in Pakistan

And India will travel
 
gibsyhesperis said:
The tournament won’t be held in Pakistan ( or at least the Indian team won’t be there)
We will go through the all the nonsense, PCB will threaten etc and in the end the BCCI will not travel the team there, the ICC will acquiesce and we will all move on.
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I want virat ,rohit and bumrah to play once in Pakistan .
 
shah_1 said:
Bumrah is another player. He has got such stressful action, he has lost pace since his comeback yet he has been so good. I expect injuries to take a toll on him as he gets older.
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Na Bumrah is an ACE seamer. He will play one more World Cup at least
 
It's very bright that's for sure. Hopefully they stop putting individual needs and records ahead of the team. They should have easily won this World Cup with the right strategy
 
I don't think rohit warrants a place in odi squad anymore. He is having lot of fitness issues as he struggles to play after 10 overs. it's better to pull Jaiswal in the squad. It's time for Jaiswal, Tilak, Sai Sudharshan,may be another alrounder like venky iyer etc.we should work on alternatives for Jadeja and shami. Bumrah will play in marquee matches alone.
 
Rohit - Age and fitness are concerns, maybe has 2 years left max. Delivered big time this tournament but don't really see him in the next.

Gill - Had his moments, remains to be seen whether he will remain in the team long term. Definitely a talent but Indian cricket is ruthless especially for batsmen.

Kohli - The talisman could go until he's 39 for 2027, I could see them give him one final chance to lift the cup a la tendulkar. In the interim despite his age I think he'll still be quality.

Iyer - Shaky start but proved his ability all said and done. 100% going to be there in 2027.

Rahul - Enemy No.1 in India tonight for his overly cautious innings. Will probably be straight swapped for Pant once he makes a full recovery. However I don't think he's done awfully overall and still a maybe for future plans.

SKY - Needs to bridge the gap between ODI and T20 performances. Will also be 37 when they go to SA. Probably won't be there, but has the ability to up his game and prove people wrong.

Jadeja - Been a very adept 2nd spinner for India for a long time now but his batting has been suspect for a while now, also like a lot of players here age is not really on his side. Could be phased out for Axar, if indeed they will even need a spin AR for the bouncy pitches in SA.

Shami - Top wicket taker and he didn't even play every game. Fantastic WC player but will be too old in 4 years I fear.

Bumrah, Kuldeep, Siraj - 100% will be on that plane next time around.

Bench

Ashwin - Will be in his 40s, will almost certainly retire in the next 4 years

Thakur, Krishna - Not really made their mark on ODIs, will have a lot to prove. Could stick with them but talent is never short and they could be shuffled out of the deck soon enough

Kishan - Made that double century before the WC, his avg is not bad at all either. Got a lot of criticism for not making good on his chances when gill was out with dengue but could be in the WK fight yet.
 
Devadwal said:
Rohit is definitely not left much cricket and he is not fit either.
Shami is also not playing next world cup so is Jadeja
Bumrah is not going anywhere and he has age with him so he is playing the next world cup assuming he is fit .
What about Virat ?
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How old is bumrah, I think he's 30. He will be 34 in four years time. Not sure how he will hold. I think this is his peak
 
Rinku will be an Indian legend. He will be the next Dhoni and in 2040, there will be a a biopic on him “Rinku”. He already has the perfect backstory too.

You heard it here first.
 
On player by player, if I look at the squad -
1. Sharma (36/37) - won’t play next WC, might not even CT, but probably will play 1 more T20 WC. Irreplaceable player - there will be many great batsman from India, but replacing RS doesn’t happen easily. He was my MoS this time for the impact he created - had Head not taken that catch, Aussies could have been chasing 100 more!! Jaiswal is an able replacement, but …
2. Gill (24) - probably next WC captain. A run machine and he’ll score lot, may not be that impactful like RS
3. Kohli (35) - most likely won’t be playing next WC, even if he plays won’t be the Kohli of 2010s. He actually cost India at least 20-25 runs this final. Replacement- there are few - Tilak Verma, Raturaj, Yash Dhul … all potentially able replacements, but Kohli of 2010s was unique.
4. Iyer (28/29) - should be around at his peak next time
5. KL (31/32) - might still stick around, but not sure he’ll be this good. Also, won’t keep for sure - either will play as batsman or get dropped. Replacements- no worries, there could be better find - Sarfraz comes to mind.
6. SKY (32) - might have played his last ODI. However, HPandeya (30) might be good enough by than to be specialist bat.
7. Jadeja (35)/Ashwin (37) - both might have played their last ODI/white ball tournament. Replacement - plenty for White ball, WSundar & Ravi Bishnoy comes to mind. Both Jadeja/Ashwin actually are invaluable Test players, but not that a big issue to find able replacements for white ball - Sundar could be better replacement actually.
8. Shami (33/34) - biggest loss, no way he can carry on for another WC. His impact is immense, for that he was the best first change in world. There will be good pacer, but replacing Shami could be difficult, because good new ball pacers are easier to find/develop; Shami was unique in his trait.
9. Kuldeep (29/30) - still should be around but might loose his place to conventional right arm leggi. Able replacement should be available- in fact Bishnoy can be an upgrade
10. Bumrah (30) - still might be around but surely he can maintain this peak at mid 30s. His action takes too much on body and I felt guy gave his everything in this WC - he might not stick around in ODI till next WC. Even if he does, won’t be this Bumrah and finding replacement could be tougher than Shami.
11. Siraj (29/30) - to be honest Siraj isn’t that good, rather he peaked at right time. Even if his body holds on, still he might loose his place to younger pacers. Replacement shouldn’t be difficult, however replacing Siraj as a whole isn’t a big deal, but replacing No. 1 bowler (even for a short period) isn’t easy.

Overall, I think this is the best Indian team in many years with most players at their peak, at the best age bracket as well - it’s among best few teams not to win a WC along with WIN of 1983, PAK of 1987, 96 & 99, AUS of 1992, SAF of 1999, 03, 07, 15. Next team will definitely be very good, almost certain to be among top 4 ranked on table and a strong contender for SF; but I don’t think 2027 team will be near as good as 2023 one. Batting gap potentially might not be that wide, but replacing the combo impact of these three pacers won’t happen - one cam mark this post,

ICC is going back to super six model in 2027 - would be less surprised for India to miss SF in 2027 than not winning it in 2023.
 
They need to cleanse their team of chokers and build around Hardik Pandya and the pace bowlers. The 2025 CT and 2027 WC is Pakistan's, InshaAllah, but India should be able to make the final if they kick the likes of Kohli and Rahul out now.
 
160KPH said:
Honestly, they just need to move on from the players they’ve had for a long time, no matter how well they’ve been playing. They’re great players who will dominate bilateral series, look unbeatable in group stage matches, but continue to come short when it matters most. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t have “it.”

Also, get rid of nothing players like Rahul who smash 60 ball centuries when there’s no pressure but who go into their shell when they’re needed. Also, Mohammad Siraj is a fine opening bowler - he’s good at extracting swing - but he’s clearly the weakest part of the fast bowling line up. He should’ve been replaced by Shami much earlier and other combinations considered.
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He should have been replaced by prasidh as I mentioned long time ago. Tall bowler who can extract bounce. But it's not my team so I guess it doesn't matter. But I like to see all teams at full strength.
 
If Rohit and Kohli retire, Ishan Kishan and Shubman Gill are not of that class of batters. Surely, the Indian cricket team will decline.
 
It's the beginning of a very strong era for India in ODI cricket.

Upcoming guys will surpass Kohli . The batting is going to be pure fire

Not sure about the bowling since we don't have best history of developing quicks well.
 
FearlessRoar said:
And who is going to surpass Kohli? Ishan Kishan and Shubman Gill? Lol
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Jaiswal
Gill
Pant
Hardik
Kishan
Rituraj
Rinku Singh

Batting core for next world cup. Watch out for Jaiswal .you can laugh as much you want now but time will tell how he will perform .
 
FearlessRoar said:
And who is going to surpass Kohli? Ishan Kishan and Shubman Gill? Lol
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There will be newer players who will come in. And not just for ind but other teams as well. That's just the way it is. The newer gen ind batting line up is pretty good and fearless. Yes they may not surpass kohli but they have to function as a team. I think kohli is the last individual batting super star for ind.. but as a collective unit. the new ind batsmen will be a formidable unit..
 
Devadwal said:
Jaiswal
Gill
Pant
Hardik
Kishan
Rituraj
Rinku Singh

Batting core for next world cup. Watch out for Jaiswal .you can laugh as much you want now but time will tell how he will perform .
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I will add Sai Sudharshan,Druv Jurel in place of Kishan and Ruturaj.If Tilak improves his performance, it will be good fight for the batting spots.We may have to see Rinku performance in odi's.
 
A big question for me is this, why should they continue to invest in cricket? what is the return?

They should maybe consider a different sport:

- Boxing (don’t have the genetics)
- Football (don’t have the height or strength)
- Tennis (they don’t have the IQ to accept it’s not like cricket, just because you hit a ball)

Can we invent a sport for Indians where you just keep tapping the keyboard with a small chest ? might do better there for sure
 
shaz619 said:
A big question for me is this, why should they continue to invest in cricket? what is the return?

They should maybe consider a different sport:

- Boxing (don’t have the genetics)
- Football (don’t have the height or strength)
- Tennis (they don’t have the IQ to accept it’s not like cricket, just because you hit a ball)

Can we invent a sport for Indians where you just keep tapping the keyboard with a small chest ? might do better there for sure
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It's market driven and based on mlm popularity. Cricket will be most popular game in ind for a long long time. Dont see any other game coming close. But rude of you and insulting to suggest keyboard game nonsense. All SC countries have a poor sporting culture in general except for cricket. Sport is not just physique- you need talent infrastructure hard work commitment desire to succeed etc...
 
If we can strictly talking about ODI's, then most of the team can retire now. India still has a lot of time to rebuild the ODI team.

If we are talking about T20's, then the entire team must stay. They are still at their peak and no replacement will be as good as them. India just need to find 2 all rounders who can balance out the team without making either batting or bowling too weak. As of now, outside of Pandya, I only see Washington Sundar who has the capacity to become a world class all rounder.
Axar is decent. But he is past 30 and we have already seen his peak.

If we are talking about Tests, again it is a matter of finding quality all rounders. Enough of batsmen and bowlers who excel only in one department. Outside of Sundar, I do not see anyone filling the role of Jadeja who is 35 now. Test team could be rebuilt slowly. But bringing back oldies like Pujara and Rahane will only set the team back.
 
shaz619 said:
A big question for me is this, why should they continue to invest in cricket? what is the return?

They should maybe consider a different sport:

- Boxing (don’t have the genetics)
- Football (don’t have the height or strength)
- Tennis (they don’t have the IQ to accept it’s not like cricket, just because you hit a ball)

Can we invent a sport for Indians where you just keep tapping the keyboard with a small chest ? might do better there for sure
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You can apply the same for the entire subcontinent.
 
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Champ_Pal said:
If we can strictly talking about ODI's, then most of the team can retire now. India still has a lot of time to rebuild the ODI team.

If we are talking about T20's, then the entire team must stay. They are still at their peak and no replacement will be as good as them. India just need to find 2 all rounders who can balance out the team without making either batting or bowling too weak. As of now, outside of Pandya, I only see Washington Sundar who has the capacity to become a world class all rounder.
Axar is decent. But he is past 30 and we have already seen his peak.

If we are talking about Tests, again it is a matter of finding quality all rounders. Enough of batsmen and bowlers who excel only in one department. Outside of Sundar, I do not see anyone filling the role of Jadeja who is 35 now. Test team could be rebuilt slowly. But bringing back oldies like Pujara and Rahane will only set the team back.
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For odis there is still some time to re evaluate as the focus is now on the t20 WC. But for T20s- there should be a total revamp of the batting. There should be no place for rohit kohli klrahul jadeja.. t20 is a very fast paced game now with no use for accumulators and consolidation. You have to go from ball 1 and no dot balls. No tuk tuk players.
Plus fielding has to be top notch..the aus fielding in the recent final was a prime example compared to the very ordinary ind fielding. Need younger aggressive batsmen like jaiswal tilak ishan rinku iyer . Bowling is pretty good with the current odi unit but siraj needs to improve his fielding.. sometimes a fresher approach with no past baggage helps you in WCs
 
deltexas said:
For odis there is still some time to re evaluate as the focus is now on the t20 WC. But for T20s- there should be a total revamp of the batting. There should be no place for rohit kohli klrahul jadeja.. t20 is a very fast paced game now with no use for accumulators and consolidation. You have to go from ball 1 and no dot balls. No tuk tuk players.
Plus fielding has to be top notch..the aus fielding in the recent final was a prime example compared to the very ordinary ind fielding. Need younger aggressive batsmen like jaiswal tilak ishan rinku iyer . Bowling is pretty good with the current odi unit but siraj needs to improve his fielding.. sometimes a fresher approach with no past baggage helps you in WCs
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Beg to differ with you on this.

Rohit is at the peak of his game. He can still play T20's for another 2 years.
Kohli is needed in low scoring games where conditions are a bit tough.
KL is WK batsman. He should play that role.
SKY should be in the T20 team for another 2 years.

Here is my lineup for the T20 lineup next year.
1) Jaiswal
2) Rohit
3) Kohli
4) KL Rahul +
5) SKY
6) Rinku
7) Washington
8) Kuldeep
9) Arshdeep
10)Bumrah
11)Siraj

If India can extract 4 overs from Kohli/Jaiswal/Rinku, then India can drop Siraj and include Ishan Kishan at No.3. It becomes important for India to let Jaiswal and Rinku bowl more. India does not need so many one trick ponies. Rinku is occupying an all rounder spot as a pure batsman.

Siraj is no world beater in T20's and ODI's. He is an excellent Test bowler.

I am not convinced of Gill as a T20 batsman. He has flaws and struggles to rotate strike, gets bogged down and throws his wicket away after wasting many deliveries. May be after Rohit retires he can claim his spot. India needs a dasher at the top. Gill is in the same mold as Kohli. Not enough shot range to explode at the top.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Beg to differ with you on this.

Rohit is at the peak of his game. He can still play T20's for another 2 years.
Kohli is needed in low scoring games where conditions are a bit tough.
KL is WK batsman. He should play that role.
SKY should be in the T20 team for another 2 years.

Here is my lineup for the T20 lineup next year.
1) Jaiswal
2) Rohit
3) Kohli
4) KL Rahul +
5) SKY
6) Rinku
7) Washington
8) Kuldeep
9) Arshdeep
10)Bumrah
11)Siraj

If India can extract 4 overs from Kohli/Jaiswal/Rinku, then India can drop Siraj and include Ishan Kishan at No.3. It becomes important for India to let Jaiswal and Rinku bowl more. India does not need so many one trick ponies. Rinku is occupying an all rounder spot as a pure batsman.

Siraj is no world beater in T20's and ODI's. He is an excellent Test bowler.

I am not convinced of Gill as a T20 batsman. He has flaws and struggles to rotate strike, gets bogged down and throws his wicket away after wasting many deliveries. May be after Rohit retires he can claim his spot. India needs a dasher at the top. Gill is in the same mold as Kohli. Not enough shot range to explode at the top.
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I personally think that rohit and kohli will just retire from t20s. Sky yes is a gun player in t20s. Klrahul is a toss up - maybe will be dropped by selectors. But the pitches will be low and slow in wi. Maybe you need 2 spinners instead of 3 pacers. And boy arshdeep is another horrible fielder lol! Not sure why these guys dont work on their fielding. Look at the fast bowlers from sus nz sa -their boundary fielding and catching is so good. But ind will boss all t20 bilaterals till t20wc. Man just hope they go all the way this time in the t20wc after being in the sf !!
 
deltexas said:
I personally think that rohit and kohli will just retire from t20s. Sky yes is a gun player in t20s. Klrahul is a toss up - maybe will be dropped by selectors. But the pitches will be low and slow in wi. Maybe you need 2 spinners instead of 3 pacers. And boy arshdeep is another horrible fielder lol! Not sure why these guys dont work on their fielding. Look at the fast bowlers from sus nz sa -their boundary fielding and catching is so good. But ind will boss all t20 bilaterals till t20wc. Man just hope they go all the way this time in the t20wc after being in the sf !!
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Rohit to retire from T20Is, and do you think he will play Tests?
 
FearlessRoar said:
Rohit to retire from T20Is, and do you think he will play Tests?
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Yeah I certainly believe so because ind schedule for tests is jam packed with 17 tests in the next 12 months. Eng has a 5 test tour early next year- that will be fun - bazball cricket in Ind vs ashwin jadeja Kuldeep should be an exciting series!
 
deltexas said:
Yeah I certainly believe so because ind schedule for tests is jam packed with 17 tests in the next 12 months. Eng has a 5 test tour early next year- that will be fun - bazball cricket in Ind vs ashwin jadeja Kuldeep should be an exciting series!
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Rohit suits T20Is. I don't presume him Test giant.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Rohit suits T20Is. I don't presume him Test giant.
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Not a giant but a good test opener more so for ind conditions and if he plays aggressively in tests as well that's always good. Too many slow blocking test openers around- need more like warner sehwag Crawley who take the attack to the opposition..
 
Champ_Pal said:
Beg to differ with you on this.

Rohit is at the peak of his game. He can still play T20's for another 2 years.
Kohli is needed in low scoring games where conditions are a bit tough.
KL is WK batsman. He should play that role.
SKY should be in the T20 team for another 2 years.

Here is my lineup for the T20 lineup next year.
1) Jaiswal
2) Rohit
3) Kohli
4) KL Rahul +
5) SKY
6) Rinku
7) Washington
8) Kuldeep
9) Arshdeep
10)Bumrah
11)Siraj

If India can extract 4 overs from Kohli/Jaiswal/Rinku, then India can drop Siraj and include Ishan Kishan at No.3. It becomes important for India to let Jaiswal and Rinku bowl more. India does not need so many one trick ponies. Rinku is occupying an all rounder spot as a pure batsman.

Siraj is no world beater in T20's and ODI's. He is an excellent Test bowler.

I am not convinced of Gill as a T20 batsman. He has flaws and struggles to rotate strike, gets bogged down and throws his wicket away after wasting many deliveries. May be after Rohit retires he can claim his spot. India needs a dasher at the top. Gill is in the same mold as Kohli. Not enough shot range to explode at the top.
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No Pandya. Isnt he like first choice caption of T20 team?
 
Mp812 said:
No Pandya. Isnt he like first choice caption of T20 team?
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Pandya is so fragile like glass - breaks down every 3rd game.. he shouldn't be the long term odi or t20 captain. Need someone who can play regularly without any injury concerns..
 
Certainly, India is not having another Rohit Sharma as an opener. Kohli like batsman may arrive sooner or later but the Hitman is Hitman.

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Former Pakistan speedster Shoaib Akhtar during a TV interview

"If you ask do Rohit and Kohli have cricket left in them? Yes, definitely. Do you get a better opener than Rohit in the world right now? No, you don't,"

"When Dhoni came, he gave respect to Sachin Tendulkar. When Virat came, he respected Dhoni. When Rohit replaced Virat, he also gave him respect. So, now it's up to Hardik Pandya how he wants to send these two great players off. It's up to him now to put his put down. And he has to bid them goodbye respectfully. They deserve this respect. I'm maybe putting pressure on Hardik Pandya through this but he needs to give that respect to Rohit and Kohli. He is in the team because of them. The kind of favours he has got in the team from them should be repaid. And they are legends of Indian cricket, so they should be given due respect before they are let go,".​
 
Players will go and players will come , but Rohit and Kohli will be gone foreever.

These two were unique players , no one can replace them. Many big names could not get 200 in Test cricket , Rohit got 3 in 50 over games. Kohli chased so many difficult chases , that cannot be counted on fingers.
 
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