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Not much has happened in the last 10 years but can things improve for the better in the next decade?
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What changes in India - Pakistan relations do you expect to see in 2020 and beyond?
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I don't think it's going to get better. Hopefully the people of Kashmir can be liberated from India, until then regional peace is unattainable.
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When were the relations ever good?
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No change. Pakistan military and Modi will continue to feed off each other to fulfill their objectives.
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Live and let live, that’s all I want to see.
India got better relationship with all its neighbours. BD, Afg, Nepal, SL....even Saudi countries are great ally to India. The sour relationship with Pak is not due to RSS/BJP. Its just a term used to fool aam janata. The tained relationship between the 2 countries is due to status quo in Kashmir and involvement of militant group in that region.
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Afghanistan and Saudi don't neighbor india otherwise India has bad relations with all of its neighbors.
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Yes, and you will be the first one to go the border with arms, isn't it ?
On topic, it would be great to see relations improving. But it seems impossible under the current Indian leadership.
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India hasn’t really got genuine good relations with anyone its just transactions of interest (and appeasement of Arab countries for India’s own economical interest). In reality its the Bangladeshi migrants due to which India has brought up the racist nationality law. In case of Afghans, their government is just a dummy and anti-pakistan to start with (due to its Northern alliance roots). India is just misusing Afghanistan as a launch pad against Pak.
Infact even Nepal, the only other Hindu majority country in the World, is on bad terms with India.
Off topic, but they actually think Afghanistan borders India. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4FTApaBRk
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I expect it to deteriorate further. Pakistan will be more of the same and no change can come from our side. India, even if it miraculously manages to get rid of BJP, will have a government hell bent on either maintaining the status quo or flex their right wing muscles to gain a larger vote bank.
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Day by day India is plummeting more towards a right wing Hindu Rashtra which can only mean bad news for Indo Pak relations.
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Things can only get worse from here as both the countries are run by hypocrites and bigots.
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And it will always stay the same.
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That's the best solution but practically it's not possible for both countries.
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Improve? Call yourself lucky if they don't worsen. We have two narcissistic leaders in power on either side, and no one is going to back down from the current standoff unless their hand is forced or they have a major self-interest in that.
Even if Niazi or Modi lose the next election, the feeling of animosity built up in 2019 would be hard to undo right away.
Even if Niazi or Modi lose the next election, the feeling of animosity built up in 2019 would be hard to undo right away.
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Won't improve for sure, in next 5-10 years relationship will only worsen. It is unfortunate but that's how it will be.
With every passing year the partition generation diminishes and the kids of partition generation who heard good stories from their parents are becoming older and more irrelevant/dying. The new generation will have 0 connect with neighbors and make up their opinions based on media perception.
You will see people here on PP itself, who indulge in blame game. X side is doing this, Y side is doing that blah blah.
Truth is, no side can claim and moral high ground. If so called educated posters, who have contact with people from other side (PP posters) don't understand and accept this simple truth, you can't accept a common person to understand this.
Only way to improve relations is if people accept the mistakes of their own policies of past and present, push their respective elected/people in power to focus their attention on relevant issues such as "improving their standard of living".
Once, that happens the relations will automatically improve. However, like I said, for the next 10 years they will not improve and most likely only worsen.
With every passing year the partition generation diminishes and the kids of partition generation who heard good stories from their parents are becoming older and more irrelevant/dying. The new generation will have 0 connect with neighbors and make up their opinions based on media perception.
You will see people here on PP itself, who indulge in blame game. X side is doing this, Y side is doing that blah blah.
Truth is, no side can claim and moral high ground. If so called educated posters, who have contact with people from other side (PP posters) don't understand and accept this simple truth, you can't accept a common person to understand this.
Only way to improve relations is if people accept the mistakes of their own policies of past and present, push their respective elected/people in power to focus their attention on relevant issues such as "improving their standard of living".
Once, that happens the relations will automatically improve. However, like I said, for the next 10 years they will not improve and most likely only worsen.
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No, they won't improve - Modi or not. Even Congress will become anti-Pakistan when and if they come to power. The two nations are destined to hate each other till eternity. Doesn't matter who is in power or not. If Inda shows the olive branch, expect our army to shut it down. Also the vice versa. I guess we should just hope to continue to evade war. It's clear people won't be alleviated from poverty, but at least let them live in peace. That's all I wish for.
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not going to improve... the next in line is amit shah ..... i can see things esclating on borders in next 5 years ....
Most bilateral relations are merely trade and financial interests. Not sure how do you define 'genunine good relationship'. UK and US are great partners but dont mean both countries are great buddies (if that term exist at all in diplomacy).
India has got great strategic bilateral relationship will all countries, except Pakistan.
i already live near the border. most of pakistan does live near the border any way.
dont worry relations will improve. france and germany needed two world wars to resolve their differences, similarly, pakistan and india need a war or two to fix all outstanding grieviences.
dont worry relations will improve. france and germany needed two world wars to resolve their differences, similarly, pakistan and india need a war or two to fix all outstanding grieviences.
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The only reason France and Germany coexist now is because Germany was defeated and had to surrender. Neither India nor Pakistan are in a position to over run the other country and force them to surrender. The nukes will come into play long before that situation arrives.
Hence the relations will remain the same, a state of prolonged stalemate with relations improving or deteriorating a little bit here or there depending on who is in power in each country.
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A war will only be beneficial if one side surrenders.
why's the relationship between Japan and the US good now?
It's because Japan surrendered in the Second World War. If it was a draw, both sides would have been enemies of each other today.
As [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] currently pointed out, nukes will be used before anyone could surrender. Both countries (Pakistan at least) would rather get destroyed than surrender because if Pakistan surrenders, we'll not remain as one state.
why's the relationship between Japan and the US good now?
It's because Japan surrendered in the Second World War. If it was a draw, both sides would have been enemies of each other today.
As [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] currently pointed out, nukes will be used before anyone could surrender. Both countries (Pakistan at least) would rather get destroyed than surrender because if Pakistan surrenders, we'll not remain as one state.
People of both countries need to give up religion or at least give religion the least importance. That will solve all the animosity. Government is only a reflection of people. Once people change even the Government will be forced to change their policy towards Pakistan and vice-e-versa.
Nuclear war is soo 1950s
I actually forsee technological advances that can nullify nuclear weapons altogether. the whole nuclear blackmail will get obsolete soon in 5G warfare : AI & Cyber warfare.
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