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Gaps in Pakistan’s white ball cricket

Now that the T20 WC is over, I think it will be time to reflect on some of the gaps in Pakistan’s white ball cricket. Particularly, T20 cricket. What are some immediate gaps that you think Pakistan needs to fulfill?

I know opening combo is one a lot talk about here and there is definitely a case for that based on recent performances.

Personally, I think what Pakistan immediately needs is to draft in one or two fast/Med fast bowling all rounders. Todays match showed that the 4 fast bowler strategy created a very long tail.

Pakistan can also benefit from bringing in the mystery spinner (I think name was Abrar) to the side now. Nawaz is a bit predictable and on foreign and even domestic pitches it will benefit to have someone unconventional.

IMO we should start this process and draft players in immediately to be ready for 2024 T20 WC and even the 2023 ODI WC.
 
There is actually room to do a lot of changes.

Going forward Haris needs to be tried as opener with Rizwan. Babar can do Babar things at number 3. I do fear that Haris will be highly inconsistent and we may not have the patience to persist.

Water boys Khushdil, Asif, Usman & Haider need to be dumped and replaced.
 
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There is actually room to do a lot of changes.

Going forward Haris needs to be tried as opener with Rizwan. Babar can do Babar things at number 3. I do fear that Haris will be highly inconsistent and we may not have the patience to persist.

Water boys Khushdil, Asif, Usman & Haider need to be dumped and replaced.
Agree.Need to find or develop a good fast bowling allrounder.In LOI allrounders are essential.
 
Don’t know how long Shaheen will be out for. Knee injuries are irreversible. That automatically creates space for a bowler + 1 already needed.
 
Saim Ayub should be given a go as opener at least. And we desperately need an A.Razzaq type of allrounder.
 
Don’t know how long Shaheen will be out for. Knee injuries are irreversible. That automatically creates space for a bowler + 1 already needed.

I highly doubt we will see Shaheen Shah Afridi until PSL starting week, he was rushed in & was never even 90% fit. He will miss home test series v new zealand & England.

WTC is on the line as pakistan needs to win 4 out of 5 tests to reach test cricket world cup final so his absense will be severely missed.
 
Khushdil, Asif, Usman & Haider need to go

Get harris to open, we need to find another middle order batter or two and someone who can be our pace bowling allrounder at 8

At the moment we are about 3-4 players in paticularly in the batting short
 
A Compulsory White-Ball Reset for All Teams (Emphasis on Pakistan)

Playing T20s is to be done the England way. That is the only way.

Two subcontinental teams played in the semi-finals of this world cup.

In total, there were three teams that played in the semi-finals who all follow a similar progression:
- Hold wickets, score runs, occasional boundaries in overs 7-15, and accelerate.

New Zealand are not quite the same, but I will still put them in this category because they are also not a team that goes out swinging.

Out of all of these teams, all of whom had no home advantage here, it was England's approach that took them to the final and eventually gave them the trophy.

A lot of this has to do with the way their cricketing system operates, especially in white-ball cricket. The ultra-positive cricketing approach is the new deal; teams that refuse to cooperate with this approach will soon be left in the dust.

However, this template itself is difficult to adopt because it requires the development of a system. We in Pakistan know how unlikely it is to see the system being developed to properly nurture a new cricketing mindset; where batsmen step out of their shells and instead are playing for more than just retention of a spot on a team, playing with a purpose and aggression to pin oppositions down.

Batsmen in T20s put too high of a value on their wickets, and as a result, cost their team matches. Babar, Rizwan, KL, Kohli, Williamson, and a long list of others are prime examples of this. Kohli is no doubt the most successful of the bunch, but he has been included in this list solely because of the batting template he followed in this World Cup (which cost India in the semi-final). A player who possesses remarkable ability to accelerate yet leaves the acceleration towards the end, playing run-a-ball in the crucial middle-overs (seen in IPL as well), has not had the impact that is expected of him.

Players like Babar and Rizwan are quite obviously a different case; they do not possess that same skillset, but have not shown an interest in the long time they have opened to play freely, positively, and score quickly.

"Positive cricket" is not just slapping sixes and boundaries; drop and run, applying pressure on the field, developing and accessing new scoring areas are all forms of playing positive cricket.

From now on, I will focus exclusively on Pakistan:

For a team with such a brilliant bowling lineup, especially this tournament, by far the best bowling attack that we have had in a white-ball tournament for a long time, our batting has been atrocious.

Players have had more than enough time to acclimatize to the conditions presented towards them, and the batting woes go down to nothing but mental weakness and the lack of courage to make big decisions.

For our own standards, we were quite decently poised by the 10th over, but this is the issue with the batting template we operate with; the day the middle order cannot pump oppositions around, that is the day we fail. Regular wickets were our undoing, and our batsmen looked incapable of taking apart the England bowling because of solely one reason; an inability to reduce dot balls.

A heave and a miss. A heave straight to the fielder. A heave but mistimed. A heave but lands safe. The mentality is to consume as many deliveries to try and hit a boundary. Scoring shots are not that developed either, and neither is the knowledge of when to take a bowler apart.

It is much better to try and go for a boundary when a bowler enters the spell rather than consume deliveries and then try and end the over well.

When boundaries are scarce, especially in the powerplay, the fielding side will have boundary riders a few meters inside to cut off your supply of easy singles and doubles.

There is no rational captain, who after being slaughtered in the powerplay, would not keep boundary riders to protect boundaries. He would have serious guts to have them patrolling close instead of trying to cut singles/doubles. This is the after-effect of an aggressive approach in the powerplay; it allows your batsmen to come in to have a cushion to get used to the conditions and then play according to their advantage, because you have made the other team play in a cautious, defensive approach.

There is no reason why our batsmen should not be scoring 30-35 runs off of Adil Rashid; granted the pitch is spinning, however, they have faced him enough times to be confident in some strokes against him.

Nobody was willing to try and sweep him, or use their feet to maneuver the ball into gaps. Iftikhar did not move his feet at all in that maiden over; that is just free dot deliveries for a spinner. You need to be able to watch the ball, move around the crease, and play the delivery when it is pitched.

I will wait for the day when a Pakistani batsman can actually get a grip and learn the reverse sweep; it is always executed like they are holding a broom rather than a bat. When you allow a spinner like Rashid to freely bowl at you, it is just going to be your undoing.

However, this post is about the white-ball reset, and that is the last thing I would write about.

Pakistan need to develop actual T20I batsmen; Haris is a good example who did not come off today.

The Babar-Rizwan partnership must be broken.

Fresh blood as a captain is needed in this side.

We need a pace-bowling all-rounder who can actually hold a bat, unlike Wasim. Wasim is a bowler, not an all-rounder, make that very clear moving forward.

For us, since we cannot develop high-quality batsmen, our approach should probably adopt a floater system:
- Have a designated opening pair of aggressive batsmen, Fakhar and Haris (LH-RH) combination.
- Numbers 3 should go to one of Babar or Rizwan. #3 comes in as an accumulator, when the team is off to a poor start, but if they're doing well, he is held back.
- Number 4 should be someone who has a high boundary percentage, may not be consistent but a positive, pro-active cricketer. I would say keep Shadab here, let him go out when the spinners are there for favourable match-ups. If the team is off to a flyer, Shadab comes in ahead of #3, or if a favourable match-up (spinner operating), then also.
- Number 5 needs to be found. Iftikhar is not consistent enough to be someone who comes in and can either soak pressure (in a bad situation) or be ready to fire from the get-go if things are looking difficult. If Haider was developed properly, I'd pick him, but we don't have many options here.
- Number 6 should be Nawaz in my opinion, but he functions as a floater when there is a favourable matchup (like a leg-spinner, or we need a RH-LH combination).

There's also a lot of other things, but this post is rather long and I'm tired as it is.
 
The WC is over, we lost the final, we are divided on the actual reason of our inconsistencies, I do believe batting line from top to bottom is fragile, one day openers will make 200, one day middle order will make 185 but one day we will only manage 138. So, with everyone having one or two innings/games to hide behind will the heads rolls after WC? Will the opening partnership change? Will the middle order change? Will there be a new captain, coach? I mean Sarfaraz was adamant that we got 8 points (or how ever many they were) and got out on NRR, so the team played well, so it wasn't a bad campaign. Here we came to the final whatever way that be, backdoor, luck, Qudarat ka Nizam, we played a Final and it wasn't one sided either, I personally would like to see some changes but how do we justify them being Finalists?
 
Surely we have to say goodbye to saqlain and yousuf and bring in some foreign coach try out something new
 
Batting is still a concern. The scoring rate has generally been poor. So some change of personnel, and some change of strategy is required.
 
Pakistan has now lost three tournaments and crucial games due to Babar Azam's captaincy mistakes ie 2021 T20 WC SF, Asia Cup T20 final 2022, WC T20 2022 final. We all know about the 2022 PSL disaster experience with Karachi Kings.

Surely you have to hold someone accountable at some point for repeated captaincy mistakes. 2-3 years as captain is enough to assess how someone performed as captain and how a captain led in pressure situations.

Pakistan needs to plan its whiteball teams keeping an eye on the ODI WC in 2023 and the T20 WC in 2024.
 
Sack everyone..bring in the u19s and shoaib Akhtar as the coach..maybe akmal as the assistant coach.. bring in malik as head of the pcb..
 
Sack everyone..bring in the u19s and shoaib Akhtar as the coach..maybe akmal as the assistant coach.. bring in malik as head of the pcb..

I am not saying to self-destruct, there is definitely room for change but not like this. I mean everyone of us will love to be RizBaber more consistent. If opening is not working do something about it, if middle order is issue change it. We need a panadol for headache not remove the brain itself.
 
The RizBab era should end at least temporarily. They significantly underperformed in this WC. Haris deserves some rope as opener as the the very first change as he has earned that opportunity.

At the very least we should open with Shan so we have l/r combination.

It's time to discard the bench for while too. Asif Ali, Khushdil, Haider need to go back to domestics and re-earn their spots.

It's also very clear that Nawaz is a passenger in this side. As much as he is a toxic character we cannot have talent like Imad Wasim sitting at home for major trophies. He needs to be back in the side.
 
The RizBab era should end at least temporarily. They significantly underperformed in this WC. Haris deserves some rope as opener as the the very first change as he has earned that opportunity.

At the very least we should open with Shan so we have l/r combination.

It's time to discard the bench for while too. Asif Ali, Khushdil, Haider need to go back to domestics and re-earn their spots.

It's also very clear that Nawaz is a passenger in this side. As much as he is a toxic character we cannot have talent like Imad Wasim sitting at home for major trophies. He needs to be back in the side.

I don't see opening pair being changed unless Babar is removed as a captain but how do you remove a captain who went to the Finals. Don't remember what happened after 1999 Final, but if there is a precedent let's do it. I think Shan/Harris make sense. One guy is aggressive and other is sensible and good SR as well. Only if someone in PCB thinks the same.
 
The WC is over, we lost the final, we are divided on the actual reason of our inconsistencies, I do believe batting line from top to bottom is fragile, one day openers will make 200, one day middle order will make 185 but one day we will only manage 138. So, with everyone having one or two innings/games to hide behind will the heads rolls after WC? Will the opening partnership change? Will the middle order change? Will there be a new captain, coach? I mean Sarfaraz was adamant that we got 8 points (or how ever many they were) and got out on NRR, so the team played well, so it wasn't a bad campaign. Here we came to the final whatever way that be, backdoor, luck, Qudarat ka Nizam, we played a Final and it wasn't one sided either, I personally would like to see some changes but how do we justify them being Finalists?

1) Remove both Babar and Rizwan as openers. Babar can go at #3 or #4. Rizwan is not needed in the team.
2) Take captaincy away from Babar.
3) Select better batsmen hitter in middle order / lower middle order
 
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The RizBab era should end at least temporarily. They significantly underperformed in this WC. Haris deserves some rope as opener as the the very first change as he has earned that opportunity.

At the very least we should open with Shan so we have l/r combination.

It's time to discard the bench for while too. Asif Ali, Khushdil, Haider need to go back to domestics and re-earn their spots.

It's also very clear that Nawaz is a passenger in this side. As much as he is a toxic character we cannot have talent like Imad Wasim sitting at home for major trophies. He needs to be back in the side.

I think Riz plays with shan. Haris at 1 down then Babar . Then Shadab and ifti. You can move things around..

We need a fast bowling all-rounder in the squad. Faheem needs to be relooked at and someone else..overall lots of options are coming forward thanks to PSL and domestic t20..also u19 and PJL..future is bright..I'm.more worried about our test team tbh..
 
1) Remove both Babar and Rizwan as openers. Babar can go at #3 or #4. Rizwan is not needed in the team.
2) Take captaincy away from Babar.
3) Select better batsmen hitter in middle order / lower middle order

No he stays till the next world cup t20..he's a good guy and good captain..our best batter by miles..
 
Where is next world cup being held based on that we have to decide that number 8 all rounder position. Ideally its an abdul razzaq type player which neither asif ali nor mohammad wasim were.
 
1) Remove both Babar and Rizwan as openers. Babar can go at #3 or #4. Rizwan is not needed in the team.
2) Take captaincy away from Babar.
3) Select better batsmen hitter in middle order / lower middle order

I don't see Rizwan being removed, historically we had two issues, opening and WKeeping, we do have a reliable keeper in form of Rizwan, Sarafaraz was also good, and we got consistency in WK after a long time, I don't want it to be gone again. No.2 should be on the cards, not sure how it will impact the player.
 
I don't see opening pair being changed unless Babar is removed as a captain but how do you remove a captain who went to the Finals. Don't remember what happened after 1999 Final, but if there is a precedent let's do it. I think Shan/Harris make sense. One guy is aggressive and other is sensible and good SR as well. Only if someone in PCB thinks the same.


RizBab have carried a failing batting side for a long time. But in this World Cup we have seen both Shan and Haris emerge as new contenders - something we did not have before when periodical failures Khushdil and Asif Ali were still in the side.

There is no harm giving it a try. Both players bring something new to the opening position. RizBab didn't do enough in this WC to determine they are the final solution to our batting problems.
 
To start with:

1. Remove Babar as captain - he’s strategically poor and more importantly doesn’t adapt from failures.
Bring in Shadab Khan - the guy’s a top talent and seems to be a team player.

2. Bring in aggressive openers - a consistent sub-40 score in Powerplay overs essentially sinks the team.

3. Use Babar as a stabilizer not enforcer - like Kohli has been used.

4. Go back to data to analyze in depth what the performances have been in domestic tournaments. Bring in 2 young guys and give them enough chances and help them grow.

Other actions are more dynamic and dependent on other actions taken.
 
First things first we need to address the issue of batting executions and intent. This is driven by the captain and therefore he must be removed from his position as captain. Unfortunately I see nothing in babar which gives me the impression that he has the ability to lead.

I think the coaching staff are doing the best they can with the resources in front of them. They are not going to turn Shan into the next ABD are they?
 
Do we see Imad and Azam Khan as probables for the team? We definitely lag a second spinner so Imad can fulfill that, but Imad the batsman is similar like Asif, Khushdil, Haider, I personally do not remember any worthwhile innings from him. One boundary and then sky it up in the air.
Azam Khan seems too big for modern cricket and every time he fails the sword of Nepotism will always be on his head. So not sure if we have anyone as of now to fulfill the shoes. I am for happy for Shan, he really struggled in Eng series but have since shown he can be relied upon but then Riz/Babar/Shan are all same type of players, can't have too many anchors in the team
 
We fielded well and bowled well which is encouraging. Obviously we have to improve our batting. However we don't have the batting resources. The best way we can do this is increasing the batting length of our line up, and have a more reliable middle order. A long batting line up is what makes England so strong batting wise and just relieves so much pressure off the other batsmen when wickets fall.

I think we should try Masood and Rizwan opening with Babar at 4. I'd have put him at 3, but let's see how Haris pans out at 3. Babar being at 4 gives Haris a little security. If it doesn't work, we can always go back. Babar-Rizwan isn't a bad opening partnership at all, but if we could maintain a good opening partnership with rizwan and Masood, as well as get a reliable no.4 boosting our middle order immensely, that would be the best solution.

I think guys like Shadab and Nawaz need to be batting higher. They aren't the players to see you home with singles. But batting higher up they can play more aggressively with less pressure knowing there are other players to come if they muck up. This will result in a much longer batting line up, knowing there's still experienced batsmen to come in after these two. But the batsman/batsmen below them needs to be reliable, able to score singles. This should also help the batsmen ahead of them, who have less to worry about losing a wicket if their batting line up feels longer.

Wasim's batting is a concern, and I don't think it's good enough for a no.8 especially when we are playing one batsman less. I don't think Wasim and Nawaz should be in the team together. Play an extra batsman instead. The issue this squad is that Nawaz was probably the best batsmen out of him, Asif, Khushdil, Haider etc. Shouldn't be the case in future squads.

Lastly I think batsmen's positions have to be fixed. No floaters or anything. I think this is partly why it's so hard for guys like Shadab and Nawaz to know their proper role batting in the team.

I think we should test out something like

1. Rizwan
2. Masood
3. Haris
4. Babar
5. Shadab
6. Nawaz
7. Iftikhar
8. An upcoming batsman
9. Rauf
10. Shaheen
11. Shah

I think batsmen playing in at 7 and 8 will see their stats suffer, but I think it will be good of the team. I feel bad for Iftikhar but if he's not going to be able to bat top 4, I think it might be in our best interests to try and use us as that finisher/safety option down the order.

On the times that you need a fast bowling allrounder instead of Nawaz, I think you go with a fast bowling allrounder who can bat. If Wasim can increase his batting to that, you can pick him. Even Hasan Ali would probably be an upgrade with the bat.
 
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1) Remove both Babar and Rizwan as openers. Babar can go at #3 or #4. Rizwan is not needed in the team.
2) Take captaincy away from Babar.
3) Select better batsmen hitter in middle order / lower middle order

No room for ATGs?

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Sharjeel in for Babar

Fakhar in for Shan

Umar Akmal in for Ifthikar

Haris in for Rizwan

Kashif Ali in for Khushdil


Sharjeel Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Haidar Ali
Mohammad Haris (wk)
Umar Akmal
Kashif Ali
Shadab Khan (c)
Mohammad Nawaz
Naseem Shah
Haris Rauf
Shaheen Afridi

If we play this team, we’ll easily beat India in 2024.
 
Sharjeel in for Babar

Fakhar in for Shan

Umar Akmal in for Ifthikar

Haris in for Rizwan

Kashif Ali in for Khushdil


Sharjeel Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Haidar Ali
Mohammad Haris (wk)
Umar Akmal
Kashif Ali
Shadab Khan (c)
Mohammad Nawaz
Naseem Shah
Haris Rauf
Shaheen Afridi

If we play this team, we’ll easily beat India in 2024.
Need to develop young attacking batsmen.Forget about Sharjeel,Ajman and Kashmir.A fast bowling allrounder is a must but I don’t know if there are any in domestic circuit.
 
Now the main aim should be to do well in 2023 WC.

Keep Babar as ODI and test captain but give T20 captaincy to Shadab.

Sack Saqlain and Yusuf they don't deserve any coaching job, not even close .

Sack Mohammad Waseem the fake selector.

Show more faith on Husnain and let him play more games, ODI and T20, his potential is underrecognized.

Let Wasim Jr to work on his batting , should bat at # 7

Discard, Chacha, Asif, Khushdil and Haider for good, we had enough of them , look for some new talent .

Give Afridi a prolonged rest/rehabilitation and use him carefully .

Bring back Imad for T20, he is vastly experience and would be even more experienced with West Indies conditions where 2024 T20 WC will be played . Grounds in West Indies are much smaller than Australia and Nawaz won't be useful there.

Let Abdullah Shafid play more domestic list A game, he will be a very good option in India in 2023 WC as an opener or one down.

Babar should continue to open in ODIs but not in T20.
 
Won’t be many changes as the player pool is the same, probably a change in management & a new partner for Rizwan
 
Today they were giving the stats of opening partnerships , babar and rizwan averaged 50 plus but score at 7.3 rpo which is simply not good enough.
Either they need to change their approch or one of the openers needs to go.

Shan has played well so i will keep him for now , pakistan dont have a number 4 batsman and this position can easily go to sharjeel khan who can hit them long and big. Haris has played a few matches but he is not yet ready for international cricket imo.
Number 5 should be fakhar zaman who can score quickly as well.

Number 6 should be azam khan , another hard hitting batsman.
7 shadab
8 imad/aamer jamal/nawaz
9 afridi
10 rauf
11 naseem/husnain/waseem

Pakistan should try saim ayub in bilateral matches at opening spot , we need to increase the player pool.
 
1. Strip Babar of the captaincy.
2. Move Babar to #3. If he doesn't want to do that, then kick him out of the team.
3. Kick Rizwan out of the team. He is a failed middle order batsman who is now opening. The way I see it, if you can't bat in your natural position, you shouldn't be in the team.
4. Replace Ifthikar. He did well at the world cup, but time is up for Ifti chahca.
5. Get rid of the useless duo of Asif & Khusdil for good.
6. Get rid of Shan.
7. Give Haider Ali a consistent run of games in one position, instead of changing his batting position every match.
8. Define Nawaz's role in the team. He isn't good enough to play as a specialist batsman and he hardly bowled in the world cup. What exactly is his role in the team?
9. Get rid of the useless coach Saqlain Mushtaq. THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE!!!
 
Asif, khushdil, haider are not good enough for international standards, need to find out some better replacements. Ifti played some crucial knocks but he is almost 40 and a walking wicket against fast bowlers. He should be replaced with fakhar once he is fully fit. A lineup with babar, rizwan, haris, fakhar, shaan looks more formidable than the current one where bowling all-rounders starts coming from number 5. Haris can be tried as an opener with license to play freely with babar coming at 3 and see how it works.
 
The next priority for Pak is the 50 over ODI World Cup. Any T20 series up until then, Pak should only select youngsters / fringe players, ideally the ones that have done well in PSL / Domestic tournaments. No first team player (ODI) should be selected unless coming back from injury and coming back for match practice.

Hopefully we see some breakout players from PSL and domestic tournaments for T20s

Current Players that need to go from T20 are Kushdil, Iftikar, Asif, Masood, Nawaz,

Also don’t forget that Pak only got to final because Netherlands beat South Africa so Coaching set up also needs to go as well.
 
I think a lot of us are forgetting Fakhar, i think we can open with Haris and Fakhar and may even take out Shan, or may have Shan/Fakhar and have Haris play instead of Nawaz.
 
Remove Babar as T20 player.
Don't play anyone above 30 yrs in T20.
Only domestic batters with SR above 135 should be played.
If I am made to choose squad for wT20 in 2024 my squad shall be like
1 Saim Ayoub
2 Haider Ali
3 M.Huraira
4 shahdab (c)
5 M haris(wk)
6 Saad Khan
7 Faheem Ashraf/Any fast bowling allrounder
8 Zafar gohar
9 Abrar (if playing in subcontinent)or otherwise naseem
10 rouf
11 shaheen
 
No he stays till the next world cup t20..he's a good guy and good captain..our best batter by miles..
Agree that Babar is Pakistan's best batsman by miles. But his captaincy is very lacking in strategy and giving bad results. Also it is affecting his game. I think he should go Tendulkar / Saeed Anwar route and give up captaincy and totally concentrate on his batting. He has potential to be an ATG.
 
No he stays till the next world cup t20..he's a good guy and good captain..our best batter by miles..

Agree, Rizwan and Babar should always be the first names on the team sheet, they are the best batsmen by a mile. But one of them needs to move down the order to give the batting line up some balance and stability. You need openers who will make hay in the powerplay overs, Babar especially isn't that guy. He takes no risks at all, in a T20 game you have to hit over the top if you want maximum return in the powerplay overs.
 
Just end RizBab please

Thats 3 winnable tournaments where they have now not delivered as an opening player. Do we now want a 4th?
 
I think a lot of us are forgetting Fakhar, i think we can open with Haris and Fakhar and may even take out Shan, or may have Shan/Fakhar and have Haris play instead of Nawaz.

I'm really not forgetting Fakhar. He may not be as pathetic as Asif Ali (c), Haider or Khushdil, but his form has been absolutely atrocious over a very long time. He's currently out of the side and should not be back until he's done some work in domestics.
 
Do we see Imad and Azam Khan as probables for the team? We definitely lag a second spinner so Imad can fulfill that, but Imad the batsman is similar like Asif, Khushdil, Haider, I personally do not remember any worthwhile innings from him. One boundary and then sky it up in the air.
Azam Khan seems too big for modern cricket and every time he fails the sword of Nepotism will always be on his head. So not sure if we have anyone as of now to fulfill the shoes. I am for happy for Shan, he really struggled in Eng series but have since shown he can be relied upon but then Riz/Babar/Shan are all same type of players, can't have too many anchors in the team

Never Azam Khan. He has had several years, presumably unlimited resources and nepotistic motivation to get into anything resembling shape.

The verdict is that he is mentally weak and incapable of doing anything but embarrasing us as a nation. It's actually incredible that he can have all those advantages yet still be obese.

Whatever you say about Pakistan we are being referred to as a joy to watch, a likeable side, exciting team etc. We don't need humiliating energy emanating from our squad which we've worked so hard to eliminate.

In short, fatties and fixers stay out.
 
I highly doubt we will see Shaheen Shah Afridi until PSL starting week, he was rushed in & was never even 90% fit. He will miss home test series v new zealand & England.

WTC is on the line as pakistan needs to win 4 out of 5 tests to reach test cricket world cup final so his absense will be severely missed.

It’s on Rameez. He gave an idiotic interview about how Imran soldiered through a shoulder injury and Wasim as well. His ******* didn’t realize that knee issues are different.

He also botched Shaheen’s road to recovery. Now imagine if Allah na karay, the issue is worse because he aggravated an existing injury.
 
Nothing will change. A dark era of early WC exits looms now.

A truly depressing loss today. Other teams won't less us get to a final again for a while our batting is a decade behind.
 
Not sure what Nawaz's role has been in the last few matches. He has not been bowling and is nor a proper batsmen. With that replace Haider, Asif, Khusdil and Usman.
 
Nothing will change. A dark era of early WC exits looms now.

A truly depressing loss today. Other teams won't less us get to a final again for a while our batting is a decade behind.

I think that the batting deficiencies have been exposed at a much higher rate now in the last couple of months, especially since the Hong Kong v Pakistan game

I give credit to Wasim Akram for bravely criticising Rizwan’s 70 off 50 against Hong Kong by saying there wasn’t enough urgency and will to hit the ball. This was the tipping point IMO, and Rizwan went on to play the infamous 55 off 50 in the final of the AC. That was when the ball really did start rolling down the hill and the openers were now expected to start answering questions about their intent and poor strike rates, plus their strategy in powerplays.

Believe me, no one wanted to even discuss this before Wasim finally stood up and spoke against Rizwan. I am hopeful that things will no longer continue like this, 220M people cannot be conned anymore!
 
Simple

Rizwan and Shan to open
Babar at 3
Haris at 4.

Babar refuses to let go of his spot and a captain should put the team first so get rid of his captaincy and give it to Shadab.

Pakistan really need a finisher, there has been none since Abdul Razzaq.
 
Nothing will change. A dark era of early WC exits looms now.

A truly depressing loss today. Other teams won't less us get to a final again for a while our batting is a decade behind.

The WC has just ended, we reached the final, and from that you have extrapolated "a dark era of early WC exits"?

Please show your working and justify your statement with facts. Delusion and fantasy don't mean anything in the real world.
 
1 Rizwan, 2 Haris, 3 Babar, 4 Masood

Iftikhar, khusdil, Nawaz, Asif out

A proper spinning all rounder

Shadab replacing Babar as captain so he can just work on his batting
 
The WC has just ended, we reached the final, and from that you have extrapolated "a dark era of early WC exits"?

Please show your working and justify your statement with facts. Delusion and fantasy don't mean anything in the real world.

We reached a final after 13 years it's delusional to think we will suddenly reach finals more often now. We got a lot of luck to even reach this one. Australia and India will not be this poor in a WC again. With the English being dominant this trio will dominate WCs for the next decade minimum.
 
The bowling is top class baring Wasim Jnr. Still not impressed by him. If the PCB can sort out the batting or unearth capable batsmen who are consistent and play attacking cricket without brain-fades, this Pakistani team will be extremely hard to beat.

All we needed today was to play ground shots which could have resulted in doubles and triples but instead we fell into the trap and gave catching practices to square leg. The lack of situation awareness goes missing big time in Pakistani camp. At one stage 170 was looking highly possible after the 16 run over.

We are playing 6 anchors in a T20 team, need to sort out this mess.

Need two genuine and reliable pace allrounders.

Wouldn’t mind making Shadab the leader.
 
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They need to change their mindset.

Babar needs to come at 3 or 4. His role should be to act as a safety net when an attacking start doesn't come off as planned.

1. Attacking Opener (Haider/Saim)
2. Rizwan (WK)
3. Attacking Batsman (Fakhar)
4. Babar Azam (C)
5. Attacking Middle Order Batsman (Haris)
6. Shadab
7. Attacking Fast All-Rounder (Aamer Jamal)
8. Imad Wasim/Nawaz
9. Rauf
10. Shaheen
11. Naseem

This way you have attackers and accumulators sprinkled throughout the batting order. Depending on the match situation, they can change the batting order.

It also gives you six bowling options.

Pakistan is lucky it has someone like Babar on the team. He can give attacking batsmen courage to go for it because they know Babar is still to come. This is far better than putting batsmen in the wrong positions (i.e. Haider or Shan) just so Babar can open.
 
They need to change their mindset.

Babar needs to come at 3 or 4. His role should be to act as a safety net when an attacking start doesn't come off as planned.

1. Attacking Opener (Haider/Saim)
2. Rizwan (WK)
3. Attacking Batsman (Fakhar)
4. Babar Azam (C)
5. Attacking Middle Order Batsman (Haris)
6. Shadab
7. Attacking Fast All-Rounder (Aamer Jamal)
8. Imad Wasim/Nawaz
9. Rauf
10. Shaheen
11. Naseem

This way you have attackers and accumulators sprinkled throughout the batting order. Depending on the match situation, they can change the batting order.

It also gives you six bowling options.

Pakistan is lucky it has someone like Babar on the team. He can give attacking batsmen courage to go for it because they know Babar is still to come. This is far better than putting batsmen in the wrong positions (i.e. Haider or Shan) just so Babar can open.

Which Haider is this? The one who dropped catch against Zim and got out first ball?
 
We reached a final after 13 years it's delusional to think we will suddenly reach finals more often now. We got a lot of luck to even reach this one. Australia and India will not be this poor in a WC again. With the English being dominant this trio will dominate WCs for the next decade minimum.

We just need to sort out batting and we be there as the 4th team to dominate the next decade as well.
 
I don't have any problem with Babar and Rizwan opening, but it seems that the need of the hour is to move Babar to 3 and have an attacking opening batsman(Haris) with Rizwan. No one is bigger than the team, and If this is what his team wants, then he should come down to number 3. If it does not work, then Babar can always go back to his opening position.
Get rid of Khushdil, Asif, and Haider. Either have Hasnain or Dahani, so you can groom him properly. Bring back Faheem Ashraf or try Aamer Jamal. Have both Nawaz and Imad in your squad.
 
Which Haider is this? The one who dropped catch against Zim and got out first ball?

Haider is just an example, the player doesn't matter as long as he is an attacking opener.

They can then look for specific players to fit that role and I'm sure there will be a trial and error phase in the coming year to find the right fit.

It can be Saim Ayub, Sharjeel, Haris, or Fakhar. It doesn't matter.

1. Attacking batsman
2. Accumulator
3. Attacking Batsman
4. Accumulator
5. Attacking Batsman

This is how it should break down.

Rizwan and Babar will be the accumulators as they are among the best at that. Shan is not required. It is up to the selectors to now find good players to fill the remaining positions. I would imagine Haris and Fakhar will take two of those attacking spots.

If quick wickets fall, Babar and Rizwan should be good enough to drag the score forward with their batting approach. Those singles and doubles will be there outside the powerplay too.
 
1 - Removal of Baber Azam for captaincy NOT because we have a better captain in waiting to take over. But more so, for his own growth under a free mind.

It doesn't matter whether it's Shadab or Haris Rauf or Shaheen - they are all at the same mental level of match awareness and street smartness just as Baber is.

No one is miles better than the other, in man management skills or having a true and strong leadership bearing on the field. None has a naturally intimidating personality trait to become a commanding and an influential leader. All are galli mohalla type mental caliber when it comes to becoming a leader.

So, it doesn't matter who replaces Baber - but Baber needs to be released from captaincy responsibility IF we want him to become a solid performer and a consistent contributor with the bat.


2 - We need to first send LAKH DI LAANUT on our domestic cricket that has produced middle order T20 batsmen like Hairder Ali, Shan Masood, Chacha Ifti, and Asif Ali, Harris and whatnot.

Is this what we produced in the name of 'middle order', to play T20 WC?

It's like we took a donkey cart to compete in a Formula 1 race.


We need to hire professional foreign coaches (instead of Allah Wallah type molvies from the stone age) to produce power hitters. These power hitters should go thru serious training and excruciation drills OTHER THAN playing with the bat n ball in the nets, to develop strong muscles, quick agility and great hand eye coordination.

Getting into the nets and hitting 100 sixes on halwa balls pitched in the hitting zone, does NOT develop/produce power hitters. NO WAY!

If we take care of these two items, then we are pretty much in good shape.
 
Haider is just an example, the player doesn't matter as long as he is an attacking opener.

They can then look for specific players to fit that role and I'm sure there will be a trial and error phase in the coming year to find the right fit.

It can be Saim Ayub, Sharjeel, Haris, or Fakhar. It doesn't matter.

1. Attacking batsman
2. Accumulator
3. Attacking Batsman
4. Accumulator
5. Attacking Batsman

This is how it should break down.

Rizwan and Babar will be the accumulators as they are among the best at that. Shan is not required. It is up to the selectors to now find good players to fill the remaining positions. I would imagine Haris and Fakhar will take two of those attacking spots.

If quick wickets fall, Babar and Rizwan should be good enough to drag the score forward with their batting approach. Those singles and doubles will be there outside the powerplay too.

We need to swift focus to 50 over wc which will be on India

Team will be as follows

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Harris sohail
5. Rizwan
6. Shadab
7. Imad wasim
8. Nawaz
9. Shaheen
10. Rauf
11. Naseem

Reserve
1. Sarfaraz
2. Hasnain
3. Shaan
4. M. Waseem
 
Need hitters with proper technique, who can balance proper cricketing shots with slogs at the right time, with game awareness.
 
Need to have batsmen who can play much faster. Rizwan and Babar both need to stop opening the innings for sure. Given many chances they have constantly failed to score fast runs. Apart from Harris the middle order have not done much either. From the bowlers Mo Waseem's place needs to be under scrutiny. As a bowler he doesn't take wickets, as a lower order batsman he can't even get bat to ball wasting so many deliveries.
 
Need hitters with proper technique, who can balance proper cricketing shots with slogs at the right time, with game awareness.

If we can find another Haris, then we are all set as we still have Fakhar who can either open or play in the middle.

1- Rizwan
2- Haris
3- Babar
4- Fakhar
5- Shadab
6- Find another Haris who can bowl spin
7- Nawaz or Imad
8- Fast bowling all rounder
9- Shaheen
10- Naseem
11- Rauf
 
The next t20 competition is in 2024 so we must now not play any oldies and we should try some young blood.

My squad for next t20 series would be
Saim Ayub
Muhammed Haris
Haider Ali
Hurraira
Shadab Khan
Qasim Akram
Jamal
Nawaz
Dahani
Hasnain
Rauf

Bench
Abrar Ahmed
Ali Imran
Mubasir
Need another wicket keeper

Naseem can be brought into the squad if thier isn't a test series happening before or after the t20 series.
 
nothing yet, let psl happen, see if anyone actually steps up to demand selection and then re-evaluate. yes pak have failed because of slow openers, but there has been no credible alternative banging down the door.

haris has great intent but has numerous technical flaws, haider has been destroyed. shan is an ok stop gap but he doesn't have a hitting game either.
 
The next tournament is in two years which gives us plenty of time to develop a new team. Fakhar, Iftikhar and Shan will be past their and thus should not be in the plan. The core of this team is likely to play again in '24 given the solid performances and the younger age.

Given the two year time frame, it's time to change the opening combination and allow other guys to come into the line up and get game time. There's no reason for Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen to play T20 except for home series and PSL.

1. Rizwan
2. Saim Ayub
3. Haris
4. Babar
5. Shadab (C)
6. Free flowing batsman
7. Nawaz
8. Pace allrounder
9. Rauf
10. Shaheen
11. Shah

Reserves: Husnain, Wasim, Qasim Akram, Mubasir Khan, Abdullah Shafiq
 
The next tournament is in two years which gives us plenty of time to develop a new team. Fakhar, Iftikhar and Shan will be past their and thus should not be in the plan. The core of this team is likely to play again in '24 given the solid performances and the younger age.

Given the two year time frame, it's time to change the opening combination and allow other guys to come into the line up and get game time. There's no reason for Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen to play T20 except for home series and PSL.

1. Rizwan
2. Saim Ayub
3. Haris
4. Babar
5. Shadab (C)
6. Free flowing batsman
7. Nawaz
8. Pace allrounder
9. Rauf
10. Shaheen
11. Shah

Reserves: Husnain, Wasim, Qasim Akram, Mubasir Khan, Abdullah Shafiq

#8 is Aamer Jamal iA. If he keeps going the way he is.
 
We really lacked a proper middle order batsman evident form our evaporation @MCG

Fakhar
Haris
Babar
HSohail
AzamKhan
Nawaz
Shadab
Jamal/WasimJr
Rauf
Naseem
Ssa/Hasnain
 
Batting is not Pakistan's strength. PAK are a bowling heavy side. But a bowling heavy side cannot afford a 4th seamer like MD. Wasim Jnr. who is somewhat hit or miss. You need a replacement for that. Ifti will be too old by the next World Cup.

If Mohammad Haris plays, he has to open . He's weak aga st spin/cutters. Prefers pace on the ball. Also, PAK should try Shan as an opener.

Not too many changes to be honest.
 
If you look at England Batsmen ,, most of them have a batting strike rate of 140+ which is probably the way we should look at developing just our T20I future team.. We know we have good bowling, but need to score consistently high so that most of the times we win defending those scores, and not 130-140s

For the ODI team, probably get in few consistent players (like Haris Sohail) or who have good batting strike rates and average too..
 
There is actually room to do a lot of changes.

Going forward Haris needs to be tried as opener with Rizwan. Babar can do Babar things at number 3. I do fear that Haris will be highly inconsistent and we may not have the patience to persist.

Water boys Khushdil, Asif, Usman & Haider need to be dumped and replaced.

Very well said. I totally agree. Need to include 2-3 young batters who can play fearless cricket we already have three players in the lineup who can play anchor role (Rizwan, Babar, Shaan)
 
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