What do you make of Shahid Afridi's 'choozay', 'chai', Modi remarks?

[MenInG]

Almost came out of the blue but to some it was expected, others a little over the top but what do you think?

 

[Slog]

Not the smartest comments calling an already disgraced and embarassed soldier a chooza. These should be left to forums and twitter and Facebook.

But Afridi has always been like this.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The pilot came to bomb his country. Calling him a chicken is hardly the worst crime when looked at in context. Afridi was addressing the people of Kashmir who came under attack from Indian planes, and have been targeted previously by Indian mortars.

 

[Rana]

He had to hit hard to get the much needed effect for it to go viral.

Mind you, Indians won’t go easy when they make their Bollywood movie on Abhinandan. So might as well stay a step ahead

 

[Mesozoic]

Plain stupid. Reeks of inferiority complex.

 

[Syed1]

Plain stupid. Reeks of inferiority complex.

As an Indian you know very well how inferiority complex feels and looks like

 

[Sirris]

To begin, I think Afridi is a bit too close to the army. Perhaps he has some kind of family ties with the military.

I think reasonable criticism is always possible without having to resort to unnecessary ridicule. However being Afridi and being reasonable is hard at times.

I haven't see the clip though but taking at face value this remark is within the line. After all a "Chooza" is a quite little thing.

In general to really solve the issue what the region needs is public figures who are able to critically comment on not just what is happening at the other side of the border but also within their own border.

 

[Syed1]

It's well said and don't think he said anything untoward. We need to get rid of this khushamdi attitude. Our 'guests' call everything under the sun to Imran but we cannot even call the ugly chaiwala a darpok with people having issue with it.

 

[Slog]

Tbh it’s too easy to light up behinds of indian social media warriors. Too easy

 

[Kianig89]

Tbh afridi is correct Abhinandan's act was not.of bravery valor or anything to ride home about or something for future Indian races be proud of or held their head high rather it was utter humiliation shame embarrassment stupidity foolishness

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As an Indian you know very well how inferiority complex feels and looks like

He is still burning from my comment in the other thread about Indian inferiority complex leading them to want to stand with Australia and England as part of the big 3 instead of admitting the IndoPak rivalry. He knows fine well what I said is true.

 

[Mesozoic]

As an Indian you know very well how inferiority complex feels and looks like

Whatever bud.

 

[Mesozoic]

He is still burning from my comment in the other thread about Indian inferiority complex leading them to want to stand with Australia and England as part of the big 3 instead of admitting the IndoPak rivalry. He knows fine well what I said is true.

I'm yet to read that cap. Stop assuming. You're quite bad at it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol. Haven't even seen that. )

Ha ha of course you haven't.

 

[saeed5646]

Plain stupid. Reeks of inferiority complex.

Inferiority complex of what?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Who are we to say what's right or wrong but we must always ask ourselves if things done today are needful or would help improve things? If seen with that point of view then you could say this was avoidable.

We are in a bad space in this point of time.

Each one of us can troll for a laugh but think about all the time and efforts that are made otherwise to ensure things are good.

Like [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] have all for nearly two decades now put in efforts to ensure the forum remains a place for healthy and clean discussions otherwise we could also be one of those nasty places on fne internet with below the belt jibes being exchanged all around. When the dust settles you realize so much effort has gone to waste over nothing.

Celebrated public figures of both countries should know better how to behave.

I am absolutely against singling out Afridi over this and launching any campaign against him.

A part of me even celebrated when he attacked Modi. Political leaders aren't to be worshipped and Modi is a known trouble maker for even us Indians.

But we can soare the armed forces some respect. They are out there doing a job, to earn bread for their families back home, not all of whom live in lavish palaces in army colonies.

Reality is that ist people in the army come from very poor background.

They are not choose they are a lot tougher people facing real problems than most of us sitting in air conditioned rooms.

I can say a lot of cheeky things for laughter but I am part of a community here. I break rules and I always get reprimanded by PP staff for that and rightly so.

Little bit fun here and there is ok but we can always refrain from hurting sentiments of people/communities.

Afridi does not even engage himself in commentary and stuff but Think about the awkwardness of the situation now for guys like Rameez Raja, Harsha Bhogle, Wasim, Gavaskar who will will meet and do programs. You make things tougher for them. You make their efforts at socializing go waste with this.

Also if i was Harbhajan or Yuvraj, and if I thought I had genuinely formed a friendship with Afridi and I contributed my bit towards the cause, then I would too be hurt at his.

Sometimes there are so many nasty and naughty things you would like to say or do but these friendships and relationships you develop help you stay on the right track. I think in this case Afridi went out there with no regard for such friendships.

All said and done, this is Shahid Afridi. He's been like this always. He will be like this always.

If you are hurt today for his words no, it's not his fault only but you should also question your misplaced expectations.

I will always be the one for friendship and peace jo matter how our of fasion it becomes for a lot of the people.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I have seen many indians calling Abhinandan a coward when he was caught and couldn't complete the task he was given.

 

[Zaz]

Well he was there to bomb pakistan and its people Id have expected abhinandan to be called a lot worse The fact afridi didnt has to go for him

 

[Third_Umpire]

Immature, but in the broader context...who cares? He is commenting on an intruding Indian Armyman who was coming to murder his fellow countrymen. Choozay is the probably the most friendly term to be used. Can think of a few others starting with Ch...

 

[Rajdeep]

Personally speaking, so many reactions from Indian cricketers were not needed. Afridi has said what he said, we must remember it and move on. What Afridi says wont change an iorta of demographics in Kashmir anyway. He wanted attention and we needlessly gave him plenty.

 

[Savak]

Poor and unnecessary comments

 

[KingKhanWC]

Who are we to say what's right or wrong but we must always ask ourselves if things done today are needful or would help improve things? If seen with that point of view then you could say this was avoidable.

We are in a bad space in this point of time.

Each one of us can troll for a laugh but think about all the time and efforts that are made otherwise to ensure things are good.

Like [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] have all for nearly two decades now put in efforts to ensure the forum remains a place for healthy and clean discussions otherwise we could also be one of those nasty places on fne internet with below the belt jibes being exchanged all around. When the dust settles you realize so much effort has gone to waste over nothing.

Celebrated public figures of both countries should know better how to behave.

I am absolutely against singling out Afridi over this and launching any campaign against him.

A part of me even celebrated when he attacked Modi. Political leaders aren't to be worshipped and Modi is a known trouble maker for even us Indians.

But we can soare the armed forces some respect. They are out there doing a job, to earn bread for their families back home, not all of whom live in lavish palaces in army colonies.

Reality is that ist people in the army come from very poor background.

They are not choose they are a lot tougher people facing real problems than most of us sitting in air conditioned rooms.

I can say a lot of cheeky things for laughter but I am part of a community here. I break rules and I always get reprimanded by PP staff for that and rightly so.

Little bit fun here and there is ok but we can always refrain from hurting sentiments of people/communities.

Afridi does not even engage himself in commentary and stuff but Think about the awkwardness of the situation now for guys like Rameez Raja, Harsha Bhogle, Wasim, Gavaskar who will will meet and do programs. You make things tougher for them. You make their efforts at socializing go waste with this.

Also if i was Harbhajan or Yuvraj, and if I thought I had genuinely formed a friendship with Afridi and I contributed my bit towards the cause, then I would too be hurt at his.

Sometimes there are so many nasty and naughty things you would like to say or do but these friendships and relationships you develop help you stay on the right track. I think in this case Afridi went out there with no regard for such friendships.

All said and done, this is Shahid Afridi. He's been like this always. He will be like this always.

If you are hurt today for his words no, it's not his fault only but you should also question your misplaced expectations.

I will always be the one for friendship and peace jo matter how our of fasion it becomes for a lot of the people.

Afridi should stick to his charity work which has been amazing.

There cannot be no peace or friendship without justice. I do not be friends withy any INDIAN who supports the immoral and brutal oppression of Kashmiris. Afridi knew the both Singhs supported and turned a blind eye to the crimes against innocent, yet he still chose to be their friend.

Indians and Pakistanis should just not talk to each other if they differ in human rights.

Better to be friend to your moral concious than to an Indian.

 

[Saj]

I'm sure he'll be upset at losing 2 friends.

Whether he would change what he said if he had the chance - I doubt it.

 

[Nostalgic]

Lala appears to have a love-hate relationship with the Humsaaya Mulk, which leads to these wildly divergent utterances from one day to the next. Now that his counterparts to the East have officially declared their friendships with him over, he too should draw a line under it all and never again embarrass himself by asking for their help. He appears to be doing stellar charitable work, and it can be done with Pakistani donations alone.

 

[MenInG]

Lala appears to have a love-hate relationship with the Humsaaya Mulk, which leads to these wildly divergent utterances from one day to the next. Now that his counterparts to the East have officially declared their friendships with him over, he too should draw a line under it all and never again embarrass himself by asking for their help. He appears to be doing stellar charitable work, and it can be done with Pakistani donations alone.

May have been swept away with the moment - not always known as a thinking man.

 

[Syed1]

May have been swept away with the moment - not always known as a thinking man.

Not sure insulting a foreign soldier who came to kill is getting 'swept away with the moment'


Calling him a chooza is the mildest Afridi could have been

 

[Rajdeep]

Cricketers should not make many political statements and stick to their own field of work. Indian and Pakistani players get along really well irrespective of political cauldron but statements like these can really impact the relationship. If a cricketer wants to get political, its better to join full time politics and then speak.

Also I think choice of words is key. We understand Afridi was trying to play to the gallery but he could have atleast worded his statements better. Calling 'chooza' and all sounds like a random gali mohalla guy typing in twitter rather than coming from a celebrity. The same celebrity who once said he gets more love in India than Pakistan.

Akhtar proposed an Indo-Pak series to raise money for Covid19 which according to me was a brilliant suggestion. Not saying it would have happened but it was an honest proposal. Even from India many took it positively and with Ganguly at helm of BCCI, who knows...we might have seen a proper series down the line. But statements like these definitely dont help the cause.

Afridi honestly needs to mature a lot.

 

[Nostalgic]

May have been swept away with the moment - not always known as a thinking man.

Perhaps, but here's to hoping this inexorably dissuades him from future Quixotic attempts at cooperating with those people.

 

[Bigboii]

Plain stupid. Reeks of inferiority complex.

inferiority complex that too against india �������� wth you on about dude gimme a break

Before I heard from indians that Pak lost the wars because of superiority complex (which still kinda exists it's stupid but it does exist against other South Asian countries) know I am hearing opposite things from india where we are know suffering from "inferiority complex" ���� care to explain why we should be suffering from inferiority complex?

 

[Bigboii]

Cricketers should not make many political statements and stick to their own field of work. Indian and Pakistani players get along really well irrespective of political cauldron but statements like these can really impact the relationship. If a cricketer wants to get political, its better to join full time politics and then speak.

Also I think choice of words is key. We understand Afridi was trying to play to the gallery but he could have atleast worded his statements better. Calling 'chooza' and all sounds like a random gali mohalla guy typing in twitter rather than coming from a celebrity. The same celebrity who once said he gets more love in India than Pakistan.

Akhtar proposed an Indo-Pak series to raise money for Covid19 which according to me was a brilliant suggestion. Not saying it would have happened but it was an honest proposal. Even from India many took it positively and with Ganguly at helm of BCCI, who knows...we might have seen a proper series down the line. But statements like these definitely dont help the cause.

Afridi honestly needs to mature a lot.

Perfect, if you are a politician ok but other than that just

STOP you need help - Michael Jordan

 

[chazam]

If you call names and bad mouth one country it’s army and it’s people then they will respond back similarly as well right? Why are Pakistanis surprised on the backlash? If you are ready to dish it expect to hear some things in return as well.

 

[Kroll]

India did get their backside handed back to them after that misadventure, but Afridi should be magnanimous in victory.

After all he was always boasting about having big hearts and personalities with such high profile like himself shouldn't really be making highly charged political comments.

If he really valued the co-operation and so called friendships with the likes of Yuvi and Bhajji, then he would have been a bit more careful.

Its okay to show solidarity with the Kashmiri people but did he really need start ridiculing soldiers who are merely pawns in this great game.

 

[Greenstorm]

"Choza" is a mild term for an intruder.

 

[Vastunna]

He is prepping Pakistanis up to make sure they are ready in droves to vote in droves the moment he announces his official entry in to politics. Trick seems to be working perfectly. The glamour craving political fan boys ( read PTI supporters ) are already drooling at his statements.

 

[Bigboii]

He is prepping Pakistanis up to make sure they are ready in droves to vote in droves the moment he announces his official entry in to politics. Trick seems to be working perfectly. The glamour craving political fan boys ( read PTI supporters ) are already drooling at his statements.

Wow unki tarifien border us par bhi phonch gaien

Bhai wah

 

[Balthazar]

Almost came out of the blue but to some it was expected, others a little over the top but what do you think?

Most of the things he said about Modi was spot on but his immaturity and false bravado had to show it's ugly face when he took a dig against Indian soldier. That pretty much undid what he intended to say about Kashmir.

 

[Bigboii]

Most of the things he said about Modi was spot on but his immaturity and false bravado had to show it's ugly face when he took a dig against Indian soldier. That pretty much undid what he intended to say about Kashmir.

Modi butcher of Gujrat deserves all the hate and plus some but not the army man that's where the line should have been drawn

 

[Savak]

The country of India has been drunk on their economic might for the last ten years. Indian Cricketers and Celebrities say whatever they want about Pakistan without fear so why should it be any different for Pakistani Cricketers and Celebrities.

 

[Mesozoic]

Inferiority complex of what?

care to explain why we should be suffering from inferiority complex?

Afridi is not the sharpest tool in the drawer but he knows fully well that Kashmir is pretty much a lost cause and there's nothing he, his army or his govt could do to change that. This normally results in a feeling of helplessness, low self esteem and an extreme craving for attention. All these fake bravado statements from him pretty much gives it away.

 

[Abdul]

Afridi should mind his own business. I doubt he knows anything besides talking.

 

[rockyboy2018]

Well, the words you choose to use say a lot about the level of your education. If the same message has to be conveyed, it can be communicated with better formal words that an educated person can use to convey it. More so when you are asking for a financial help from your fellow cricketers. Who knows whose words Afridi was speaking of. It is a media war at the end of the day and also we do not know whose words these Indian cricketers are speaking of. To be honest, as cricketers , they should not delve into making any sort of political statements. They should just do their humanitary work if they would like to do so in pure silence. Take singer Madonnna for example, builds schools and donates more money than Afridi can think of but does not have an arrogant attitude at all. These small victories should not be celebrated ad nauseum and treat humans with dignity. This message is for both Indians and Pakistanis.

 

[Local.Dada]

The country of India has been drunk on their economic might for the last ten years. Indian Cricketers and Celebrities say whatever they want about Pakistan without fear so why should it be any different for Pakistani Cricketers and Celebrities.

Can you give me examples of Indian celebrities or cricketers calling Imran Khan names?

 

[Slog]

Can you give me examples of Indian celebrities or cricketers calling Imran Khan names?

Gambhir (cricketer and celebrity political) called him a ‘terrorist role model’ for starters..

BJP random ministers say a lot too. You can google. Shouldn’t be too hard

 

[Bigboii]

Gambhir (cricketer and celebrity political) called him a ‘terrorist role model’ for starters..

BJP random ministers say a lot too. You can google. Shouldn’t be too hard

The audacity of the idiot

Wasn't Modi involved in ethnic cleansing of Muslims?

 

[Nadeemp]

The audacity of the idiot

Wasn't Modi involved in ethnic cleansing of Muslims?

Useless statement. I don’t see a difference between Gautam gambit or Afridi . Same type of personalities.

 

[Bigboii]

Useless statement. I don’t see a difference between Gautam gambit or Afridi . Same type of personalities.

Have to disagree on comparing PM

One was responsible for thousands of muslims deaths and the other one is an idiot that's the worst you can call him so they are not in the same playing field when it comes to ethics, morality

 

[Giannis]

Homeboy said the right thing. India should forever be condemned for the occupation and genocide. It's about humanity, not nationalism.

 

[Asifnow]

Plain stupid. Reeks of inferiority complex.

Would you rather have your plane shot down or be called a chicken?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Homeboy said the right thing. India should forever be condemned for the occupation and genocide. It's about humanity, not nationalism.

Came here to say this. Afridi is kind of man who would never mince his words.

It's ironic that instead of focusing on actual issue of open air jail and continuous oppression of Kashmiris, people are targeting Afridi here.

On may 18, 1990 Indian troops gang raped a girl called Mubeena Ghani on her wedding night, dragged groom and bride outside of car in middle of night... animals...

This is the kind of people Indian army are. Afridi is out there, continuously communicating/engaging with actual, real people; not on a Facebook live session/Twitter feed... but in real life... I'm sure he hears these kind of stories of people whose lives have suffered because of Indian army so it's only natural that we get statements like this from him.

Real issue remians the same. India should stop murdering Kashmiris and let them have freedom. This neo fascist Hindu state is a risk for the stability and peace. The Muslim Killer president of theirs should be behind bars for instigating murder of poor Muslims in Gujarat. He unsuccessfully tried to start a war with whole Abhinandan thing which could kill millions of human beings. Modi is evil.

 

[Mesozoic]

Would you rather have your plane shot down or be called a chicken?

No. But I'd rather not be in a country where downing a solitary jet means so much to it's people because of it's embarrassing military past.

 

[Giannis]

No. But I'd rather not be in a country where downing a solitary jet means so much to it's people because of it's embarrassing military past.

It's embarrasing that your country tried to bomb innocent villagers in Kashmir but ended up getting your jet shot down, your pilot dragged and humiliated by the locals and then graciously pardoned by the Pakistani authorities when they could've executed him - something you people are still ungrateful for.

 

[Mesozoic]

It's embarrasing that your country tried to bomb innocent villagers in Kashmir but ended up getting your jet shot down, your pilot dragged and humiliated by the locals and then graciously pardoned by the Pakistani authorities when they could've executed him - something you people are still ungrateful for.

Losing half of your country whilst surrendering on your own territory, starting multiple conflicts over Kashmir only to end up getting humiliated everytime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a solitary jet on enemy territory

 

[Giannis]

Losing half of your country whilst surrendering on your own territory, starting multiple conflicts over Kashmir only to end up getting humiliated everytime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a solitary jet on enemy territory

Lmao perhaps geography isn't taught in India, Bangladesh isn't even 1/5th the size of Pakistan let alone being half , you guys lost Pakistan and Bangladesh forever and that's hurt your egos ever since .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You should start watching our news channels. Afridi's comments are nothing in front of those.

Abhinandan wasn't sent by India to kill two innocent trees in Pakistan. He failed in his mission, got caught, sipped chai and came back home.

 

[CricketCartoons]

You should start watching our news channels. Afridi's comments are nothing in front of those.

Abhinandan wasn't sent by India to kill two innocent trees in Pakistan. He failed in his mission, got caught, sipped chai and came back home.

and yet he became a hero for indians. a coward nation deserves cowards as heroes.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lmao perhaps geography isn't taught in India, Bangladesh isn't even 1/5th the size of Pakistan let alone being half

A country is represented by it's people not land. And more than half of Pakistan's population were residing in East Pak in '71.

you guys lost Pakistan and Bangladesh forever and that's hurt your egos ever since .

No we didn't lose anything. It was the British government who decided to split the subcontinent on religious grounds. India has only gained more territory to it's dominion since independence.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Modi and Modi's India deserve nothing but ultra humiliation. Well said by Afridi. Look at all these nationalists on our forum - still trying to defend Modi and his regime. Shameless!

 

[Asifnow]

No. But I'd rather not be in a country where downing a solitary jet means so much to it's people because of it's embarrassing military past.

No what? "No" doesn't answer the question I asked.

Also curious which country has the embarrassing military past? The one which makes alternative Bollywood movies of the one which shot down two military aircraft from a so called world power without any repercussions?

 

[Rana]

There was no revenge for the 40 killed at Pulwama besides some trees being shot down. The death toll raised to another 7-10 (could be more) after operation swift retort.

Embarrassing times for the Choozay

 

[MenInG]

Think for most people - what Afridi said was nothing out of the ordinary. The reaction to it across the border seems to be the bigger news.

 

[Local.Dada]

Think for most people - what Afridi said was nothing out of the ordinary. The reaction to it across the border seems to be the bigger news.

It’s bigger probably because if Afridi was saying this on a YouTube channel no one would give it this much attention but Afridi has been trying to show he is a philanthropist raising money for world peace without any political ideology or agenda and even Indians donated to his fund. Now if he is attacking the PM of that very country and making this a political matter it will receive more attention.

Not sure why you are so surprised.

 

[Abdullah719]

It’s bigger probably because if Afridi was saying this on a YouTube channel no one would give it this much attention but Afridi has been trying to show he is a philanthropist raising money for world peace without any political ideology or agenda and even Indians donated to his fund. Now if he is attacking the PM of that very country and making this a political matter it will receive more attention.

Not sure why you are so surprised.

He has always expressed his interest in joining politics. It will happen someday.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

It’s bigger probably because if Afridi was saying this on a YouTube channel no one would give it this much attention but Afridi has been trying to show he is a philanthropist raising money for world peace without any political ideology or agenda and even Indians donated to his fund. Now if he is attacking the PM of that very country and making this a political matter it will receive more attention.

Not sure why you are so surprised.

Nobody is surprised apart from those who were not taking Afridi seriously but are now getting hurt by his comments. Other surprising thing is Bhajji and Yuvi didn't know about Afridi's previous statements because this is not the first time Afridi has said something against India or Indians. In my opinion both Bhajji and Yuvi are using this opportunity to prove their patriotism towards India. I won't blame them for that. When you are surrounded by so many trolls you have to do things like these.

 

[Mesozoic]

No what? "No" doesn't answer the question I asked.

Also curious which country has the embarrassing military past? The one which makes alternative Bollywood movies of the one which shot down two military aircraft from a so called world power without any repercussions?

The one which has been trying to get Kashmir since it's inception only to fail embarrassingly everytime and got it's country cut in half by it's enemy whilst recording the largest surrender since ww2.

 

[Syed1]

The one which has been trying to get Kashmir since it's inception only to fail embarrassingly everytime and got it's country cut in half by it's enemy whilst recording the largest surrender since ww2.

That's what's taught in your textbooks??



I want to see when your textbooks are updated and the events of last Feb are added and how big of a victory is given to India. I bet Abhinandan would be shown to fly all around Pakistan and shoot down 6-7 jets then land at Chaklala airbase and demand a cup of tea, before walking to Wagah border after rescuing Kulbhushan Yadav )

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That's what's taught in your textbooks??



I want to see when your textbooks are updated and the events of last Feb are added and how big of a victory is given to India. I bet Abhinandan would be shown to fly all around Pakistan and shoot down 6-7 jets then land at Chaklala airbase and demand a cup of tea, before walking to Wagah border after rescuing Kulbhushan Yadav )

Nice script there for a bollywood movie.

 

[Local.Dada]

That's what's taught in your textbooks??



I want to see when your textbooks are updated and the events of last Feb are added and how big of a victory is given to India. I bet Abhinandan would be shown to fly all around Pakistan and shoot down 6-7 jets then land at Chaklala airbase and demand a cup of tea, before walking to Wagah border after rescuing Kulbhushan Yadav )

For arguments sake let us say India lost all 4 wars to Pakistan + 1 vs China + 1 if you count the whole Abhinandan saga, that is 6 wars lost.

Now lets continue with this premise and say Pakistan won 4 wars vs India + 1 vs Russia when they broke USSR + 1 vs USA which is looking for an exit+ Abhinandan saga that is 7 wars won

Also add to the fact that India has pretty much more than 90% of it's territory intact since 1947 (conservative estimate please correct me either ways). Don't think same can be said for Pakistan

However the key takeaways from this are forget USA,Russia which are doing absolutely fine, India too seems to be doing well for itself if you take into account it lost 6 wars, don't you think?

Even Bangladesh which had to undergo 3 partitions, first in 1917 then in 1947 and 1971, suffer a famine and civil wars is still doing better economically than Pakistan, the question you should ask is what went wrong that the winner of 7 wars is in a state of asking for bailouts and funds from it's people.

This actually can be a very interesting thesis for PHD if obviously all of the above were facts.

 

[Mesozoic]

That's what's taught in your textbooks??

Why ? Do Pakistani textbooks say that their army captured Srinagar, Jammu and Ladakh by winning all those wars by making the Indian army surrender in record numbers and that Imran khan is the prime minister of Bangladesh too ?

 

[Local.Dada]

Why ? Do Pakistani textbooks say that their army captured Srinagar, Jammu and Ladakh by winning all those wars by making the Indian army surrender in record numbers and that Imran khan is the prime minister of Bangladesh too ?

Keep all that aside, I am sure there are people studying in Pakistani universities doing PHD etc. in Economics,History etc. I am more surprised how come none of these educated guys ever challenged their textbooks, like hold on a minute, if we crushed them in all wars, how come their economy and territorial integrity is better than us?

 

[Giannis]

Keep all that aside, I am sure there are people studying in Pakistani universities doing PHD etc. in Economics,History etc. I am more surprised how come none of these educated guys ever challenged their textbooks, like hold on a minute, if we crushed them in all wars, how come their economy and territorial integrity is better than us?

Why ? Do Pakistani textbooks say that their army captured Srinagar, Jammu and Ladakh by winning all those wars by making the Indian army surrender in record numbers and that Imran khan is the prime minister of Bangladesh too ?

Can you point out in which Pakistani textbook the above was said?

We can verify with members based in Pakistan that studied there if this is in fact the case.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

He has always expressed his interest in joining politics. It will happen someday.

I agree, but I’m not too happy about it. He’s very emotional, mercurial, and aggressive for the job. Will spend more time making statements than actually getting things done.

But yes I can definitely see him running for PM some day twenty years from now.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Can you point out in which Pakistani textbook the above was said?

We can verify with members based in Pakistan that studied there if this is in fact the case.

It’s not. The only “revisionist” statement is that 1971 was a draw rather than a defeat.

On the other hand, perhaps we should discuss the Indian school system’s stories Maharana defeating Akbar, Nehru being removed from textbooks, or Hitler “lending dignity to Germany”?

I can assure you that Congress figures a large part in history taught to kids in Pakistan these days as one of the major drivers of the revolution. How big a part does Jinnah and the Muslim League play in Indian textbooks?

 

[chazam]

so he has no concerns about Uighur muslims treatment in China. Would love to hear a few words about
that from the intellectual Afridi.. savior of all muslims.
Or there is a category.. good muslims and bad muslims. where the uighurs are the bad ones and should be allowed to rot in a detention center all the time.
Also, as far as i know.. how many rohingya muslims did Pakistan offer to help??

 

[hitthestump]

so he has no concerns about Uighur muslims treatment in China. Would love to hear a few words about
that from the intellectual Afridi.. savior of all muslims.
Or there is a category.. good muslims and bad muslims. where the uighurs are the bad ones and should be allowed to rot in a detention center all the time.
Also, as far as i know.. how many rohingya muslims did Pakistan offer to help??

Pakistan can't/won't say anything against China for obvious reasons.

What is happening is painful to any Muslim, but we've got ourselves into such a position that we have no capability of speaking out against their treatment internationally. It's a lose-lose and a very sore point for Pakistan.

 

[Shaddy86]

If I was Afridi, I'd give back whatever money Yuvraj and Harbhajan contributed to his charity from my personal funds. Pretty sure it wasn't a lot and wouldn't hurt Afridi paying it back from his own pocket. I don't know why he was friends with them in the first place, never found them to be very likeable personalities especially Harbhajan.

 

[Mesozoic]

Can you point out in which Pakistani textbook the above was said?

We can verify with members based in Pakistan that studied there if this is in fact the case.

It was a question.

 

[El Generico]

Afridi went overboard but it’s amazing how much reaction this got from Indian celebrities, media and posters. Indian celebrities make anti Pakistan comments as a routine but I don’t think Pakistan has ever reacted like that.
I guess they hold Afridi in really high esteem that why his comments hurt this much.

 

[Bigboii]

Afridi went overboard but it’s amazing how much reaction this got from Indian celebrities, media and posters. Indian celebrities make anti Pakistan comments as a routine but I don’t think Pakistan has ever reacted like that.
I guess they hold Afridi in really high esteem that why his comments hurt this much.

Must have it wasn't out of the ordinary or something tbh

 

[Giannis]

It’s not. The only “revisionist” statement is that 1971 was a draw rather than a defeat.

On the other hand, perhaps we should discuss the Indian school system’s stories Maharana defeating Akbar, Nehru being removed from textbooks, or Hitler “lending dignity to Germany”?

I can assure you that Congress figures a large part in history taught to kids in Pakistan these days as one of the major drivers of the revolution. How big a part does Jinnah and the Muslim League play in Indian textbooks?

That's what I thought. The Indians posters on here are perpetual liars, they pull their "facts" from where the sun don't shine.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

That's what I thought. The Indians posters on here are perpetual liars, they pull their "facts" from where the sun don't shine.

I’ll give them benefit of the doubt. Seems they were exaggerating to prove a point