What do you think of these lavish weddings?

[Mamoon]

Ambani has ZERO taste and class.

That council built Lego set in the Bombay hailed as the tallest and most expensive home in India, oozed of cheap tac and sums up everything.

These lavish weddings are nothing but publicity stunts and an opportunity to parade wealth - in the heartland of Subcontinent slums.

And anyway, all that money and he still opted for Western entertainers - so much for made in India and keeping it Indian.

I’m sure he is devastated that a poor person thinks he has zero taste and class.

You laugh at his taste and class, he rolls on the floor at your bank balance.

 

[Mamoon]

i wonder if the employees of ambanis company are happy with their salaries...

They are probably much happier than household servants elsewhere.

 

[Major]

They are probably much happier than household servants elsewhere.

do you speak for them?

 

[big_gamer007]

Ambani has ZERO taste and class.

That council built Lego set in the Bombay hailed as the tallest and most expensive home in India, oozed of cheap tac and sums up everything.

These lavish weddings are nothing but publicity stunts and an opportunity to parade wealth - in the heartland of Subcontinent slums.

And anyway, all that money and he still opted for Western entertainers - so much for made in India and keeping it Indian.

Regarding western entertainers: That’s not entirely true, Ambani has a lot of traditional Indian artists performing as well.

 

[big_gamer007]

i wonder if the employees of ambanis company are happy with their salaries...

Salaried employees are very rarely happy with the salary they are getting. They always want more and rightfully so.

In a country like India, the culture in big corporates is that you can stay with a company for 10 years and do all the work but they will pay you less than what they will offer someone new who switched jobs from another company.

That’s why the iteration rate is so high in Indian corporates.

There are very few people who are given proper raise and promotions in corporates and who are happy with their salary.

Most of the corporate work force want more.

So your question is moot in regards to Ambanis spending on weddings.

 

[Mockingbird]

So so tacky.. such ostentatious display of wealth is frankly vulgar to the extreme. The old money Bombayites would be laughing behind the Ambani’s back.

 

[Major]

Salaried employees are very rarely happy with the salary they are getting. They always want more and rightfully so.

In a country like India, the culture in big corporates is that you can stay with a company for 10 years and do all the work but they will pay you less than what they will offer someone new who switched jobs from another company.

That’s why the iteration rate is so high in Indian corporates.

There are very few people who are given proper raise and promotions in corporates and who are happy with their salary.

Most of the corporate work force want more.

So your question is moot in regards to Ambanis spending on weddings.

are you salaried person?
if so, so you see justifiation in this?

 

[big_gamer007]

are you salaried person?
if so, so you see justifiation in this?

I was but I lucky to have made good enough money in crypto and have moved to Australia.

I am telling you how the corporate world works in India. Whether it’s right or wrong that’s just how the world works.

Most of the people who complain about the extravagant spending of the rich might actually do the same or even worse if they ever get that kind of money.

There are very few philanthropist, everyone admires and respects them but how many actually follow their path?

Ambanis have billions, they spend millions in charities as well.
They spent few millions on the wedding. Maybe it’s their shauk to have fancy weddings, why should anyone kill their shauk if they can afford them just to please others? Their own happiness shouldn’t matter to them?
That’s not a good way to live life.

 

[Major]

I was but I lucky to have made good enough money in crypto and have moved to Australia.

I am telling you how the corporate world works in India. Whether it’s right or wrong that’s just how the world works.

Most of the people who complain about the extravagant spending of the rich might actually do the same or even worse if they ever get that kind of money.

There are very few philanthropist, everyone admires and respects them but how many actually follow their path?

Ambanis have billions, they spend millions in charities as well.
They spent few millions on the wedding. Maybe it’s their shauk to have fancy weddings, why should anyone kill their shauk if they can afford them just to please others? Their own happiness shouldn’t matter to them?
That’s not a good way to live life.

im not saying they should spend on phiilantrophy.

What i am saying is that if they have soo much left over income coming from there business reliance, than might aswell increase salaries IF low salaries are an issue

 

[big_gamer007]

im not saying they should spend on phiilantrophy.

What i am saying is that if they have soo much left over income coming from there business reliance, than might aswell increase salaries IF low salaries are an issue

That’s not how businesses run. Business is a cut throat field, if you run it emotionally you will be out of business soon.

I am sure the top executives at reliance are probably given stock options and a handsome pay. But the mass employees who are disposable are not given such perks and they are free to leave for another company.

That’s how all companies run everywhere in the world.

 

[Mamoon]

do you speak for them?

Do you speak for them when you say that they are unhappy, or is it your blind assumption because you sound jealous of their wealth?

 

[MenInG]

New Delhi: In a rare case, the Narendra Modi government has given the international tag to the sensitive defence airport at Gujarat’s Jamnagar town for just 10 days so that guests invited to the wedding of Mukesh Ambani’s son can land close to the venue.

The international tag to the Indian Air Force airport located close to the Pakistan border was given for February 25 to March 5.

Billionaire businessman Ambani, a fellow Gujarati seen close to Prime Minister Modi, is hosting many guests from the global who’s who list arriving from different parts of the world to attend son Anant Ambani’s wedding to Radhika Merchant, daughter of industrialist Viren Merchant.

According to airport officials, between February 28 and March 4, the Jamnagar airport is expected to receive at least 150 aircraft. “Of these, 50 are flying in directly from foreign locations. During these five days, there will be more than 300 aircraft movements at the airport,” D.K. Singh, airport director at Jamnagar, told The Hindu BusinessLine.

The news report said approximately 2,000 guests are expected at the pre-wedding event in these aircraft, including guests from Mumbai and Delhi. “This is a multi-fold jump in aircraft movements for the Jamnagar airport, which, on average, handles only three scheduled and five non-scheduled aircraft daily,” it added.

A report in The Hindu said, “The Union government’s Ministry of Health, Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Home Affairs have pressed in resources to set up a Custom, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) facility at the airport.”

Especially for the wedding, the Air Force has not only permitted access of these private aircraft to its sensitive “technical” area, also, “in preparation for the massive inflow of guests, the AAI (Airports Authority of India) has expanded the size of its passenger building from 475 sq km to 900 sq m, allowing it to accommodate nearly 360 passengers during peak hours as compared to 180 earlier.”

An airport official on condition of anonymity told The Hindu, “Expansion work was planned much earlier but was expedited for the (Ambani wedding) event.”

While “up to three aircraft are being accommodated in the technical area at a given time”, the news report highlighted that the airport has also enhanced manpower in “every vertical”.

“Thirty-five house-keeping staff have been added to the existing strength of 16; the (BJP-ruled) state (Gujarat) government has also doubled the deployment of security personnel from 35 to 70; ground handling agencies have raised the strength of their staff from 65 to 125,” underlined The Hindu.

Ambani’s Reliance Industries has also been allowed to make special arrangements near the defence airport to receive the dignitaries coming for the pre-wedding event, added The Hindu Businessline report.

This past November, Prime Minister Modi had appealed to rich Indians to ‘wed in India’ in his Maan Ki Baat radio speech. It is not clear yet whether that appeal coincided with the special preparations that his government was carrying out at the Jamnagar defence airport for the Ambani wedding.

The Ambani scion’s engagement was held at a temple in Rajasthan on December 29. News reports had then said the wedding would take place in Jamnagar on March 1.

While India’s top business daily, The Economic Times, carried an article this February 29 with the headline, “Anant-Radhika wedding will kick-off ‘wed in India’ Economy”, it is not clear yet if the Union government’s special arrangements at the Jamnagar airport was due to a new policy adopted for all to augment the ‘wed-in India’ economy mooted by Modi, or it was a one-off gesture towards the Ambani family.

It may be recalled that in May 2023, South Africa was rocked by the news of a special charter flight carrying guests from India for the wedding of the son of an Indian-origin billionaire business tycoon seen close to former President Jacob Zuma, allowed by the government to land at a defence airport.

The industrialists Atul, Ajay and Rajesh Guptas were one of the biggest benefactors of Zuma’s party, the African National Congress (ANC). News reports had then said the guests included Bollywood stars among others.

According to a BBC report, “Police escorted the guests to the casino resort of Sun City for the wedding of 23-year-old Vega Gupta, the Gupta brothers’ niece, to Indian-born Aaskash Jahajgarhia.”

With South African and international Press highlighting the ‘political scandal’, the then ruling ANC government issued a statement saying, “The African National Congress, driven by the concern for the safety and sovereignty of South Africa, shall never allow a situation where our ports of entry and National Key Points are penetrated with impunity.”

South African minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane told reporters that an investigation had been ordered and it would also “unearth whether diplomatic privilege had been abused (by the Indian embassy)”.

South African foreign ministry’s chief of protocol Bruce Koloane was also suspended immediately for allowing the Waterklof Air Force Base airport near Pretoria to be used by the Guptas pending the investigation.

The Wire

 

[Major]

Do you speak for them when you say that they are unhappy, or is it your blind assumption because you sound jealous of their wealth?

I did not conclude that they are unhappy, i asked if they are not happy and are being paid low salaries

Why would i be jealous of their wealth when i have no connection to them?

 

[Major]

That’s not how businesses run. Business is a cut throat field, if you run it emotionally you will be out of business soon.

I am sure the top executives at reliance are probably given stock options and a handsome pay. But the mass employees who are disposable are not given such perks and they are free to leave for another company.

That’s how all companies run everywhere in the world.

It depends upon business to business. Some give good perks like health benefits and EOBI

Thing is if owners are making soo much taht they can throw away, i just hope there empployees working at reliance are not underpaid

 

[Mamoon]

I did not conclude that they are unhappy, i asked if they are not happy and are being paid low salaries

Why would i be jealous of their wealth when i have no connection to them?

What is this conclusion based on? Have you spoken to any of his servants?

Also, do you have servants in your home?

 

[Mamoon]

It depends upon business to business. Some give good perks like health benefits and EOBI

Thing is if owners are making soo much taht they can throw away, i just hope there empployees working at reliance are not underpaid

There is a difference between Reliance employees and the servants working in his home, like his driver, cook, cleaner etc.

 

[Major]

There is a difference between Reliance employees and the servants working in his home, like his driver, cook, cleaner etc.

i am refering to the employees or reliance. Offcourse the servants will be paid well enough.

But often in corporate sector employees are underpaid and overworked especially in third world countries. This is why i hope he pays his employees at reliance well if he is spending soo much on elephants etc

 

[Mamoon]

i am refering to the employees or reliance. Offcourse the servants will be paid well enough.

But often in corporate sector employees are underpaid and overworked especially in third world countries. This is why i hope he pays his employees at reliance well if he is spending soo much on elephants etc

He will pay them as per the market rate. He cannot pay them more than what they would be earning at a competitor company for the same job.

Successful businessmen do not operate like that. Reliance is not a charity organization.

There is absolutely nothing wrong him spending a fortune on his son’s wedding. It is all relative.

If regular families can spend almost all their live savings on wedding why can’t Ambani spend a few billions when you look at his net worth?

 

[Vikram1989]

i am refering to the employees or reliance. Offcourse the servants will be paid well enough.

But often in corporate sector employees are underpaid and overworked especially in third world countries. This is why i hope he pays his employees at reliance well if he is spending soo much on elephants etc

That's what the author says in world famous rich dad poor dad book.A business man will always pay less to the employee irrespective of the employee efficiency and attitude. If employee does not likes it,he may shift to new job.But employers will not increase the salary easily for his survival/profit and u may call it with any name.Its the first basic lesson in business.

 

[Major]

He will pay them as per the market rate. He cannot pay them more than what they would be earning at a competitor company for the same job.

Successful businessmen do not operate like that. Reliance is not a charity organization.

There is absolutely nothing wrong him spending a fortune on his son’s wedding. It is all relative.

If regular families can spend almost all their live savings on wedding why can’t Ambani spend a few billions when you look at his net worth?

Normal families are different, because normal familiies are not a business tycoon that pays the salaries of 1000+ employees.

Me finding it wrong in his spending on this wedding is conditional. If the reliance employees are paid well that its ok.

Market Rate is a good argument, but when your company is providing more value than any other company interms of Net Profits, than offcourse you pay your employees well.

Market rate does not mean you pay minimum wage or a minimum salary set.

What a start up will pay and what Microsoft will pay to its employee will be massively different. Start up will pay at minimum wage, but microsoft will pay enough that it also makes sure not to pay over and cause chaos in the market.

Anyways, no Indian has told us here if the salaries at reliance are good or not.

 

[Major]

That's what the author says in world famous rich dad poor dad book.A business man will always pay less to the employee irrespective of the employee efficiency and attitude. If employee does not likes it,he may shift to new job.But employers will not increase the salary easily for his survival/profit and u may call it with any name.Its the first basic lesson in business.

Do not care what the author of that book syas.

Is Reliance paying its employee at minimum wage/salary or pay good amount.

 

[Vikram1989]

Do not care what the author of that book syas.

Is Reliance paying its employee at minimum wage/salary or pay good amount.

Am not defending any one here , saying getting maximum output at lowest rate is the primary quality of any businesses and they dont care about anyone. you know that every employee will have a solo trader business for namesake and avail all the benefits. It's basically looking after you ,whoever it is.

 

[Major]

Am not defending any one here , saying getting maximum output at lowest rate is the primary quality of any businesses and they dont care about anyone. you know that every employee will have a solo trader business for namesake and avail all the benefits. It's basically looking after you ,whoever it is.

Is reliance paying its employees well or not?

Do you take justification from your boss if you were paid at minimum wage?

 

[Vikram1989]

Is reliance paying its employees well or not?

Do you take justification from your boss if you were paid at minimum wage?

Bro u don't accept ,even if world banks says so.ur motive is different. Let's leave it

 

[big_gamer007]

It depends upon business to business. Some give good perks like health benefits and EOBI

Thing is if owners are making soo much taht they can throw away, i just hope there empployees working at reliance are not underpaid

Reliance or any other major corporates give PF, health insurance cover, bonus etc. Most companies have bonus as part of their CTC but still they give.

Every company underpays its employee in third world. That’s the norm.

Salary is all about demand and supply and your knowledge.

I have worked for western giants and the reason they have offices in India is because it’s cheap. Indians do the same work or even more work than their western counterparts yet don’t earn the same as those guys.

If you are good at what you do and their is demand for your skill set then you can always switch and get a higher salary somewhere.

If there’s no demand for your skill set then obviously you won’t get a high pay.

That’s how economics run.

 

[big_gamer007]

Also the major flaw in your argument is that no major company lets all its employees be part of profit sharing.

If this year reliance made huge profit and increases salary of all its staff and next year they don’t have such good profit the staff won’t take pay cut. If reliance tries for pay cut all of them will revolt or leave job.

@Major

 

[big_gamer007]

Is reliance paying its employees well or not?

Do you take justification from your boss if you were paid at minimum wage?

Reliance is a giant which is part of every sector.

A lot of reliance employees will be well paid, a lot will be underpaid, some might be paid normal rates.

It all depends on skill set, market demand, revenue of that sector, revenue of that tower etc etc.

Example a business in reliance may have 100s of high paying contracts and making tonne of money the salary of those employees will be good.
Another business in reliance might not be performing that well so the employees there won’t be paid that well.

That’s basic corporate economics

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hating on rich is many people’s hobby.

What someone does with his or her money is none of our business. They are not spending taxpayers money.

 

[Major]

Reliance or any other major corporates give PF, health insurance cover, bonus etc. Most companies have bonus as part of their CTC but still they give.

Every company underpays its employee in third world. That’s the norm.

Salary is all about demand and supply and your knowledge.

I have worked for western giants and the reason they have offices in India is because it’s cheap. Indians do the same work or even more work than their western counterparts yet don’t earn the same as those guys.

If you are good at what you do and their is demand for your skill set then you can always switch and get a higher salary somewhere.

If there’s no demand for your skill set then obviously you won’t get a high pay.

That’s how economics run.

No its not a norm.

If everyone was being harrassed at the company you dont say that its a norm.

Justifying underpay is a very poor thing to do, there is no justification.

Economics wage rate is not that simple, no matter how hard you pay try to justify it. Yes a minimum wage gets set, but at the same time an upper limit also gets set. Companies that pay at the minimum wage are often start ups or companies that dont make enough.

I am not saying that Reliance should pay above the upper limit, but offcourse they cannot be paying minimum wage and than the owners be throwing money on elephants and pre weddings.

If they have enough money, they should be paying reliance employees atleast above minimum wage (note: i am not saying pay at maximum wage or above).

What Microsoft pays is going to be higher than what a start up pays.

So the question is still there, does Reliance pay a good salary to its employees?

 

[Major]

Reliance is a giant which is part of every sector.

A lot of reliance employees will be well paid, a lot will be underpaid, some might be paid normal rates.

It all depends on skill set, market demand, revenue of that sector, revenue of that tower etc etc.

Example a business in reliance may have 100s of high paying contracts and making tonne of money the salary of those employees will be good.
Another business in reliance might not be performing that well so the employees there won’t be paid that well.

That’s basic corporate economics

so you admit that reliance underpays its employees, thank you.

If I were an Indian, instead of going gaga that the richest person in my country is spending money, buying elephants and spending more money on an elephant than on the person bringing value to my company, i would not be defending such people around here.
No need to be biased. You are not related to the man, he doesnt even know you exist, yet the need to defend him just cause hes Indian is hilarious.

Its like Americans start defending Jeff Bezos here and justify that oh its ok hes rich and he pays me minimum wage.......

This is not basic corporate economics, plz no need to make up stuff around here

 

[Major]

Hating on rich is many people’s hobby.

What someone does with his or her money is none of our business. They are not spending taxpayers money.

You pay A grade celebrities to come to your wedding and pay them for it, and than expect people to not discuss it?

 

[big_gamer007]

No its not a norm.

If everyone was being harrassed at the company you dont say that its a norm.

Justifying underpay is a very poor thing to do, there is no justification.

Economics wage rate is not that simple, no matter how hard you pay try to justify it. Yes a minimum wage gets set, but at the same time an upper limit also gets set. Companies that pay at the minimum wage are often start ups or companies that dont make enough.

I am not saying that Reliance should pay above the upper limit, but offcourse they cannot be paying minimum wage and than the owners be throwing money on elephants and pre weddings.

If they have enough money, they should be paying reliance employees atleast above minimum wage (note: i am not saying pay at maximum wage or above).

What Microsoft pays is going to be higher than what a start up pays.

So the question is still there, does Reliance pay a good salary to its employees?

What is underpay?

To me if someone is doing the same work as me gets paid twice or thrice as much as I do just because they are in a western nation, is I being underpaid.
However, compared to people in other companies who are doing same work as me but are in India I might be over paid.

Pays are decided by demand and supply. Supply is decided by skill set. If there is a pantry boy in an office who wants 1 lakh rupees a month, there would be tens of thousands others who will do the same job for 1/10th that salary.

Similarly, if there’s an expert coder or scientist to whom reliance offers 1 lakh a month, there might be tens of other companies who will offer him 2 or 3 lakhs a month. Or reliance themselves might offer him 4 or 5 lakh a month more than what any company is willing to pay.

So reliance is a good pay master as well as a bad pay master.

It all depends on the demand, supply and skill set of the position.
And this is not justifying reliance it’s just how the world works.

I am curious, are you still in college? Or are you a working professional? If working professional then which field you work in?

 

[big_gamer007]

so you admit that reliance underpays its employees, thank you.

If I were an Indian, instead of going gaga that the richest person in my country is spending money, buying elephants and spending more money on an elephant than on the person bringing value to my company, i would not be defending such people around here.
No need to be biased. You are not related to the man, he doesnt even know you exist, yet the need to defend him just cause hes Indian is hilarious.

Its like Americans start defending Jeff Bezos here and justify that oh its ok hes rich and he pays me minimum wage.......

This is not basic corporate economics, plz no need to make up stuff around here

it underpays a lot of employees and overpays a lot of employees as well.

In corporates there are people who work less than 50% and are still paid their full salary, and there are people who work more than 100% and are still getting only 100% of their salary.

The whole corporate structure has many flaws, but it can’t be changed.

And I don’t know where you see my going gaga over the money being spent on wedding. I said from the first post, it’s his money and he is free to spend it the way he want.
I am not a fan of Ambani or any top businessman who exploits the system and indulge in corrupt practices with political support, I am just replying to your comments about the pay and trying to explain to you how pay is decided in corporate world.

The only thing I am defending is the right of Ambani to spend his money the way he sees fit.
If it was some Pakistani businessman who I have never even heard of instead of Ambani my arguments would have been the same.

Your argument is Ambani should pay his employees more instead of spending his money lavishly on his sons wedding.

My argument is the money Ambani is spending on the wedding is his own personal wealth and not the money of reliance the company so he is free to spend it the way he wants.

From your posts it seems you are quite young hence I was trying to explain and was replying to you. But if you would act like other Indians or Pakistanis on this forum who misunderstand basic arguments and are quick to bring nationality in arguments then I won’t bother replying.

 

[Vikram1989]

@big_gamer007
From your posts it seems you are quite young hence I was trying to explain and was replying to you. But if you would act like other Indians or Pakistanis on this forum who misunderstand basic arguments and are quick to bring nationality in arguments then I won’t bother replying.
[/QUOTE]
He has a problem with everything an Indian does.you can go through his posts in other articles which includes mocking but no valid points. As the proverb goes,we cannot wake up a man who pretends to be sleeping.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Hating on rich is many people’s hobby.

What someone does with his or her money is none of our business. They are not spending taxpayers money.

Typical middle class. Always jealous of the rich.

First they should try to treat their maids with respect and don't underpay them just because the maids are needy.

These loser middle class deserve their miserable life spent in paying of mortgage and education loans.

 

[Major]

it underpays a lot of employees and overpays a lot of employees as well.

In corporates there are people who work less than 50% and are still paid their full salary, and there are people who work more than 100% and are still getting only 100% of their salary.

The whole corporate structure has many flaws, but it can’t be changed.

And I don’t know where you see my going gaga over the money being spent on wedding. I said from the first post, it’s his money and he is free to spend it the way he want.
I am not a fan of Ambani or any top businessman who exploits the system and indulge in corrupt practices with political support, I am just replying to your comments about the pay and trying to explain to you how pay is decided in corporate world.

The only thing I am defending is the right of Ambani to spend his money the way he sees fit.
If it was some Pakistani businessman who I have never even heard of instead of Ambani my arguments would have been the same.

Your argument is Ambani should pay his employees more instead of spending his money lavishly on his sons wedding.

My argument is the money Ambani is spending on the wedding is his own personal wealth and not the money of reliance the company so he is free to spend it the way he wants.

From your posts it seems you are quite young hence I was trying to explain and was replying to you. But if you would act like other Indians or Pakistanis on this forum who misunderstand basic arguments and are quick to bring nationality in arguments then I won’t bother replying.

Thank you for admitting that reliance underpays its employees and exploits them, while the owners can feed and dance around elephants and spent money on pre weddings.

 

[Major]

What is underpay?

To me if someone is doing the same work as me gets paid twice or thrice as much as I do just because they are in a western nation, is I being underpaid.
However, compared to people in other companies who are doing same work as me but are in India I might be over paid.

Pays are decided by demand and supply. Supply is decided by skill set. If there is a pantry boy in an office who wants 1 lakh rupees a month, there would be tens of thousands others who will do the same job for 1/10th that salary.

Similarly, if there’s an expert coder or scientist to whom reliance offers 1 lakh a month, there might be tens of other companies who will offer him 2 or 3 lakhs a month. Or reliance themselves might offer him 4 or 5 lakh a month more than what any company is willing to pay.

So reliance is a good pay master as well as a bad pay master.

It all depends on the demand, supply and skill set of the position.
And this is not justifying reliance it’s just how the world works.

I am curious, are you still in college? Or are you a working professional? If working professional then which field you work in?

What i do, what i studied is non of your concerns.

You keep ignoring the fact that what microsoft will pay and what a small company will pay is different. One will pay above minimum wage the other will pay minimum wage

Its very easy to paste economic theories without any proper logical reasoning and analysis to it.

Companies that have higher profits will keep paying above minimum wage.

Anyways, you already admitted that the worlds richest indian is exploiting his own people by underpaying them.


Might aswll make it up with a few elephant dances

 

[globetrotter]

If any Rich have legitimate money, then they can have lavish wedding… I wish more n more rich ppls should spend more n more money in weddings… so our economy will run faster

@Major … Reliance is a Global 100 company, so don’t compare it with gulf companies who r hiring Indian, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi workers and not paying them minimum wages… my many friends r working for reliance top management and their salary at par with any other top companies

 

[Major]

@big_gamer007
He has a problem with everything an Indian does.you can go through his posts in other articles which includes mocking but no valid points. As the proverb goes,we cannot wake up a man who pretends to be sleeping.

When indians will decide to take off their nationalism lense and not defend each everything associated with india no matter how wrong it is, maybe than we can talk about me having a problem with india.

My problem is with blind nationalism.

No one defends getting whipped

 

[Major]

Typical middle class. Always jealous of the rich.

First they should try to treat their maids with respect and don't underpay them just because the maids are needy.

These loser middle class deserve their miserable life spent in paying of mortgage and education loans.

You have alot of hate for middle class, only because Ambani is being crtisizied for underpaying his employees at reliance while having funds to keep elephants as pets and bare its expence?

Come on now, unless ambani knows you and gives you an allowance, you dont have to defend him for being an exploitive indian

 

[CricketCartoons]

You have alot of hate for middle class, only because Ambani is being crtisizied for underpaying his employees at reliance while having funds to keep elephants as pets and bare its expence?

Come on now, unless ambani knows you and gives you an allowance, you dont have to defend him for being an exploitive indian

It is a general comment about middle class who are jealous of the rich.

Middle class are losers. I used to hate middle class even when I had reached middle class status.

My thumb rule definition of middle class: Those who fly economy class.

 

[Mamoon]

You have alot of hate for middle class, only because Ambani is being crtisizied for underpaying his employees at reliance while having funds to keep elephants as pets and bare its expense?

This applies to every financially blessed person in the world not just Ambani.

People in Pakistan spend 20k on a dinner which is equivalent to their house servant’s monthly salary.

Not sure why you have a problem with Ambani spending money on his family when he is worth over a $100 billion.

We all do what we can at our own level. It is just that the scale of Ambani’s spending is much higher than mine and yours because of his wealth.

 

[Major]

This applies to every financially blessed person in the world not just Ambani.

People in Pakistan spend 20k on a dinner which is equivalent to their house servant’s monthly salary.

Not sure why you have a problem with Ambani spending money on his family when he is worth over a $100 billion.

We all do what we can at our own level. It is just that the scale of Ambani’s spending is much higher than mine and yours because of his wealth.

No it does not apply to every financially blessed person in the world.

It does not apply on Bill Gates, who used to pay his employees good salaries.

I dont have a problem with Ambani keeping elephants as pets and underpaying his reliance employees at the same time.

I have a problem with indians defending being exploited by a guy and than defending him while being exploited. The curse of blind nationalism.

Forget Ambani, even Jeff Bezos was rightly critisized when Amazons salary issues were highlighted few months ago

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Typical middle class. Always jealous of the rich.

First they should try to treat their maids with respect and don't underpay them just because the maids are needy.

These loser middle class deserve their miserable life spent in paying of mortgage and education loans.

the core base of the bjp is middle class people though, they love modi

 

[JaDed]

Ambani spend what 0.1% of his revenue? Desis spend 100% of their savings , heck even American white ppl do the same.

 

[Asad T]

hahah this cracked me up

 

[CricketCartoons]

Ambani spend what 0.1% of his revenue? Desis spend 100% of their savings , heck even American white ppl do the same.

Desis take loans for cars, homes and even weddings. Spend beyond their means, and hate the rich who spend a tiny fraction of their money.

It was still acceptable if not for the way they treat the poor class. The way they treat their maids, fire them without any notice period or extra salary to help them find a new job. They don't even let the maids or drivers use their washroom, or same glass to drink water.

 

[Mamoon]

No it does not apply to every financially blessed person in the world.

It does not apply on Bill Gates, who used to pay his employees good salaries.

I dont have a problem with Ambani keeping elephants as pets and underpaying his reliance employees at the same time.

I have a problem with indians defending being exploited by a guy and than defending him while being exploited. The curse of blind nationalism.

Forget Ambani, even Jeff Bezos was rightly critisized when Amazons salary issues were highlighted few months ago

Ambani has created millions of jobs in India. Even if he is not paying his employees as much as you would want him to, he has still done more for India than 99% of Indians in history.

 

[Major]

Ambani has created millions of jobs in India. Even if he is not paying his employees as much as you would want him to, he has still done more for India than 99% of Indians in history.

Does that justify to exploit his people?

Because if he exploits and under pays, this gives an incentive to other companies to pay their employees less and keep the salary class more poor.

Hence, he is whipping his very own and they are defending him on here.

Would reliance under pay a white or foreigner employee that would be working in india?

 

[Mamoon]

Because if he exploits and under pays, this gives an incentive to other companies to pay their employees less and keep the salary class more poor.

Hence, he is whipping his very own and they are defending him on here.

Would reliance under pay a white or foreigner employee that would be working in india?

The rich always exploit the poor. Ambani is no exception.

I exploit the poor, you also exploit the poor. It is what it is.

It is how the economic system and class difference are designed.

 

[cricketjoshila]

i wonder if the employees of ambanis company are happy with their salaries...

If they are not they can join other companies who are willing to pay him or her more.That's how it works in a free economy

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ambani runs a legitimate business. He is free to use his money in any legitimate way he wants.

 

[sweep_shot]

Lavish weddings are stupid.

Imagine having a lavish wedding and then getting a divorce after 4-5 years.

 

[big_gamer007]

What i do, what i studied is non of your concerns.

You keep ignoring the fact that what microsoft will pay and what a small company will pay is different. One will pay above minimum wage the other will pay minimum wage

Its very easy to paste economic theories without any proper logical reasoning and analysis to it.

Companies that have higher profits will keep paying above minimum wage.

Anyways, you already admitted that the worlds richest indian is exploiting his own people by underpaying them.


Might aswll make it up with a few elephant dances

There are startup’s/smaller companies which pay much better than Microsoft. Many people leave Microsoft to join other companies which pay better.
Do you think there is no iteration in Microsoft due to monetary reasons?

What you do and how old you are is relevant because you can’t seem to understand very basic concepts.

You seem to be living in a fantasy world where only the company which pays the highest in the market is not exploiting their employee but every other company which pays less than the highest paying company is exploiting.

You don’t seem to understand the concept of underpay which is different for every individual.

You don’t seem to understand private money and company money are two different things.

Every private company including Tata and Microsoft which are one of the most philanthropist groups out there have some employees which are underpaid compared to what they might earn in some other company.
That does not make Bill Gates or Ratan Tata wrong in buying any luxurious items for themselves.

At this stage, it’s clear to me that you have already made up your mind and have very little understanding of the real world.

There is some form of exploitation in corporates including reliance, if you would have phased your questions around what kind of exploitation occurs I could have explained you.
But your whole argument is so non sensical about some rich guy not being allowed to use his own private money for his own satisfaction that it’s quite laughable and pitiful.

 

[big_gamer007]

@big_gamer007
From your posts it seems you are quite young hence I was trying to explain and was replying to you. But if you would act like other Indians or Pakistanis on this forum who misunderstand basic arguments and are quick to bring nationality in arguments then I won’t bother replying.

He has a problem with everything an Indian does.you can go through his posts in other articles which includes mocking but no valid points. As the proverb goes,we cannot wake up a man who pretends to be sleeping.
[/QUOTE]


It’s fine. I found his whole argument amusing so I was entertaining him. I thought people would understand basic workings of the real world but alas I was wrong.

 

[shaz619]

Lavish weddings are stupid.

Imagine having a lavish wedding and then getting a divorce after 4-5 years.

You only get married once though

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@Rajdeep will Modi attend?

I wonder if he does if he will be dancing along to Rihanna.

He will dance on basanti song there '' aa jab tak hai jan....

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lavish weddings are stupid.

Imagine having a lavish wedding and then getting a divorce after 4-5 years.

Same actually happened for the Master Tiles son wedding if i am not wrong.

 

[globetrotter]

Lavish weddings are stupid.

Imagine having a lavish wedding and then getting a divorce after 4-5 years.

Wedding is a big industry in India… if rich not have lavish weddings, then wedding n event management industries will b in trouble.. more rich ppls should have lavish and big weddings… so wedding and event management industry will survive…This is how economy runs

 

[MenInG]

Ambani done what many Bollywood producers could not do

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1764049273505857645

 

[BouncerGuy]

Well, that is some amount to pay for her Performance. Ambani's are rich.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764028152274469191

 

[U$ofA]

No it does not apply to every financially blessed person in the world.

It does not apply on Bill Gates, who used to pay his employees good salaries.

I dont have a problem with Ambani keeping elephants as pets and underpaying his reliance employees at the same time.

I have a problem with indians defending being exploited by a guy and than defending him while being exploited. The curse of blind nationalism.

Forget Ambani, even Jeff Bezos was rightly critisized when Amazons salary issues were highlighted few months ago

Does/Did he pay his employees in India the same as his employees in the US? Does he pay whites/Americans more?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Well, that is some amount to pay for her Performance. Ambani's are rich.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764028152274469191

Modi must not be happy with the Ambani family because she tweeted in support of the farmers' protest.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Modi must not be happy with the Ambani family because she tweeted in support of the farmers' protest.

She is dancing for the same family whose mobile towers were damaged by the farmers she was paid to support. These are bhaands who will dance for anyone who throws them money.

 

[Major]

are the bollywood actors like Amir, Shah Rukh and Salman paid to come as entertainers? Or invited as guests?

 

[Itachi]

Ambani done what many Bollywood producers could not do

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1764049273505857645

Could have been goat moment 15 years ago.

I actually found it very boring. I guess they are more nostalgic than reality.

 

[happydavy]

are the bollywood actors like Amir, Shah Rukh and Salman paid to come as entertainers? Or invited as guests?

They all come as guests, it's a mark of honor these days to be invited to Ambani's functions. Of course there is also the business dependency now. With Viacom merger with disney, OTT is India is now almost entirely owned by Reliance (Netflix is the only exception), so all these Bollywood stars now work very closely with Ambanis and hence would absolutely jump at the idea of attending Ambanis' functions.

 

[Varun]

They all come as guests, it's a mark of honor these days to be invited to Ambani's functions. Of course there is also the business dependency now. With Viacom merger with disney, OTT is India is now almost entirely owned by Reliance (Netflix is the only exception), so all these Bollywood stars now work very closely with Ambanis and hence would absolutely jump at the idea of attending Ambanis' functions.

What about Amazon Prime and Sony Liv?

 

[happydavy]

No it does not apply to every financially blessed person in the world.

It does not apply on Bill Gates, who used to pay his employees good salaries.

I dont have a problem with Ambani keeping elephants as pets and underpaying his reliance employees at the same time.

I have a problem with indians defending being exploited by a guy and than defending him while being exploited. The curse of blind nationalism.

Forget Ambani, even Jeff Bezos was rightly critisized when Amazons salary issues were highlighted few months ago

When i read such posts, i get surprised at utter lack of understanding of business economics. Microsoft operates at almost 50% ebitda margins which means after paying of all salaries and other costs, it makes $50 as ebitda on $100 of revenues. For reliance industries the corresponding number is 16%. On a comparative basis, reliance makes significantly less profits margins than Microsoft so one could make a case that MS should pay more to its employees as it makes insane amount of profits? Neither MS is wrong not Reliance is wrong, it's the way different industries costs are structured. You can pay to your employees out of what your business earns, not what social media buffons want you to pay. Technology businesses make much higher margins and hence average salary in tech companies will always be higher than average salary in a brick and mortar business.

 

[happydavy]

What about Amazon Prime and Sony Liv?

Hardly any advertising share, sony liv in terms of subscribers has 6% market share and Amazon has 8% but both don't have much advertising revenues as you need cricket tournament rights to bring advertisement share. Between Viacom/jio/hotstar you are talking about almost 70% of media market in terms of revenues.

 

[Champ_Pal]

She is dancing for the same family whose mobile towers were damaged by the farmers she was paid to support. These are bhaands who will dance for anyone who throws them money.

Ambani paid these foreign entertainers and SJW's enough to dance. Money makes the best of them shake their legs.

 

[gani999]

Yet all the western countries managed to do it in a relatively short span of time, even those like America and Australia which were either colonies, or a bunch of ragtag prisoners sent to live in exile. We British are the best example, not only have we uplifted our own poor sections of society, we have invited some of the best of yours to come and live the dream here. Through good scientific grounding and teaching practice, we have passed on our culture and wealth to those who used to be British but now carry the culture successfully to all corners of the globe, from Canada to New Zealand.

Despite being looted and colonised for hundreds of years, India today is a bigger economy than the UK and is producing multi-billionaires like Ambani, Adani and the Tatas.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

are the bollywood actors like Amir, Shah Rukh and Salman paid to come as entertainers? Or invited as guests?

They are paid artists, not for free.

 

[Red-Indian]

Hardly any advertising share, sony liv in terms of subscribers has 6% market share and Amazon has 8% but both don't have much advertising revenues as you need cricket tournament rights to bring advertisement share. Between Viacom/jio/hotstar you are talking about almost 70% of media market in terms of revenues.

That's not the complete picture since it's tricky estimating subscription revenues which are weighted towards Netflix but you're right - viewership and advertising-wise, the Indian OTT market is now dominated by the Ambanis.

You're broader point is correct though. It's silly talking about whether they pay their employees well. They're a massive Fortune 100 corporation and they pay what the market dictates. People join and leave them all the time.

 

[Major]

They are paid artists, not for free.

thats weird.

than why are they serving food?

If they were invited as family and friends, it makes sense that they also serve food to other as its tradition. But if they were invited as paid artist, than why serve food?

That would make them paid servants serving the hollywood and celebrities of the west

 

[Major]

They all come as guests, it's a mark of honor these days to be invited to Ambani's functions. Of course there is also the business dependency now. With Viacom merger with disney, OTT is India is now almost entirely owned by Reliance (Netflix is the only exception), so all these Bollywood stars now work very closely with Ambanis and hence would absolutely jump at the idea of attending Ambanis' functions.

one poster is saying they were paid to come, you are saying they are guest.

pick one

 

[Major]

When i read such posts, i get surprised at utter lack of understanding of business economics. Microsoft operates at almost 50% ebitda margins which means after paying of all salaries and other costs, it makes $50 as ebitda on $100 of revenues. For reliance industries the corresponding number is 16%. On a comparative basis, reliance makes significantly less profits margins than Microsoft so one could make a case that MS should pay more to its employees as it makes insane amount of profits? Neither MS is wrong not Reliance is wrong, it's the way different industries costs are structured. You can pay to your employees out of what your business earns, not what social media buffons want you to pay. Technology businesses make much higher margins and hence average salary in tech companies will always be higher than average salary in a brick and mortar business.

At least you admit Reliance underpays so that Ambani uncle can make elephants run in their garden.

I feel sad that when your very own ends up exploiting you and you have to still go defend them.

Harassment if he is western exploiter, but nationalism if he is Indian exploiter

 

[Asad T]

A little freudian slip from Nicholas Pooran

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I saw some clips of her performance. The crowd was loving the booty shaking and some Indians were twerking along with her at one point too.

It was lovely to see traditional Hindu culture on display now that Mughal colonial culture has been removed from India.

Well, that is some amount to pay for her Performance. Ambani's are rich.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764028152274469191

 

[sweep_shot]

I saw some clips of her performance. The crowd was loving the booty shaking and some Indians were twerking along with her at one point too.

It was lovely to see traditional Hindu culture on display now that Mughal colonial culture has been removed from India.

Looks like they are okay to embrace all other "invader" cultures except for Mughal culture. I wonder why.