What happened to Shadab Khan's googly?

[Savak]

It was such a lethal weapon in the PSL. But he has gone far too overboard in terms of not using it in international cricket. When Pandya was teeing off on his leg spinners, he should have atleast tried one googly.

His googly during the PSL was literally Imran Tahirish and he shouldnt compromise on it

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

It was such a lethal weapon in the PSL. But he has gone far too overboard in terms of not using it in international cricket. When Pandya was teeing off on his leg spinners, he should have atleast tried one googly.

His googly during the PSL was literally Imran Tahirish and he shouldnt compromise on it

Probably you don't watch Cricket matches deeply.


Shadab over uses his Googly which is not the way to go and You are saying He doesn't use it.


He needs to use it as a surprise package. Also he must work on flipper & zooter.


He is only 18 and He must keep working very very hard. He must not forget Usama Mir & Mohammad Irfan. Usama will give him a real hard competition even just as a Bowler only.


So, Shadab shouldn't take it lightly. He has achieved quite alot at only age 18 but He must stay grounded and committed. Pandya gave him a lesson aswell as challenge going forward. From now on He will be tested.

 

[Mamoon]

He beat Yuvraj with a googly and then trapped him LBW the next ball with a leg-break, who was in two minds and wasn't sure if it was a googly or a leg-break.

 

[Boi]

It looked ineffective because most of the Indian batsmen, other than Yuvraj, were picking it with ease. He over bowled the googly more than anything.

 

[Syed1]

I guess you the missed the ball to Yuvi..

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Shadab needs a good few sessions with Warnie to work on his legspin.

Apart from the WI T20's he's barely had much success that has made an impact on a game he's played.

The less said about his batting skills, the better.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

The Yuvraj dismissal was a nice set up so he got that.

 

[Mamoon]

In spite of not contributing much, he still manages to look like a key player. Partly because of his fielding and partly because of his confidence and attitude. He is an absolutely rare talent and I am delighted with the fact that he has been given a lot of responsibility at the age of 18. Looks like a player who will be around for 10-15 years.

 

[Poison]

There was nothing in that wicket in terms of sideways movement. Shadab's wrongun turns a long way and the best one he bowled to Yuvraj just went slightly off the straight. Top talent and brilliant prospect .. keep him in the short forms for now.

 

[Mlscicfan]

He beat Yuvraj with a googly and then trapped him LBW the next ball with a leg-break, who was in two minds and wasn't sure if it was a googly or a leg-break.

Yuvi is in final leg of his career, not the right batsman to gauge performance of Shadab. Good prospect though, even Imran Thahir was ineffective vs Indian batting.

 

[Hamza_]

In spite of not contributing much, he still manages to look like a key player. Partly because of his fielding and partly because of his confidence and attitude. He is an absolutely rare talent and I am delighted with the fact that he has been given a lot of responsibility at the age of 18. Looks like a player who will be around for 10-15 years.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] there was discussion of having him as vice captain, He has some personality also good cricketing mind, After 5-6 years Shadab will be 22-23, Ideal person to take over captaincy.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] there was discussion of having him as vice captain, He has some personality also good cricketing mind, After 5-6 years Shadab will be 22-23, Ideal person to take over captaincy.

He is certainly a strong contender because he has the right attitude. I was hopeful that Babar can be developed as captain across formats like Kohli, Root, Smith and Williamson, but he has not turned out to be captaincy material. Needs to focus on scoring consistent runs at number 3 across all formats.

 

[Abdullah]

I think op means it wasn't ripping square like it did to babar in the psl.
He was definitely bowning them though. Probably to do with the pitches

 

[New Yorker]

Shadab needs a good few sessions with Warnie to work on his legspin.

Apart from the WI T20's he's barely had much success that has made an impact on a game he's played.

The less said about his batting skills, the better.

I think Ill have to insist. What do you think to know about his batting skills? Doesn't have an average yet with the bat in ODIs. Only batted once in the CT and was not out on 14.

 

[PakSarZameen]

In spite of not contributing much, he still manages to look like a key player. Partly because of his fielding and partly because of his confidence and attitude. He is an absolutely rare talent and I am delighted with the fact that he has been given a lot of responsibility at the age of 18. Looks like a player who will be around for 10-15 years.

You sound like someone who would be describing an 18 year old Afridi. Hopefully Shadab can work on his batting and replace Afridi.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] there was discussion of having him as vice captain, He has some personality also good cricketing mind, After 5-6 years Shadab will be 22-23, Ideal person to take over captaincy.

I won't name but one of your favourite batter is soon going to make Pak team and might become Vice Captain


Shadab needs atleast 2-3 years of Int Cricket with good success before He should be made V-C.


Currently we neef to see how he comes back from Pandya Phaintaa. Hope it doesn't affect his confidence & skill.


Shanaka, Gunaratne & K Perera would target him in UAE. Let's see whether he wins the battle or they overcome him.

Fingers Crossed.

 

[Hamza_]

I won't name but one of your favourite batter is soon going to make Pak team and might become Vice Captain


Shadab needs atleast 2-3 years of Int Cricket with good success before He should be made V-C.


Currently we neef to see how he comes back from Pandya Phaintaa. Hope it doesn't affect his confidence & skill.


Shanaka, Gunaratne & K Perera would target him in UAE. Let's see whether he wins the battle or they overcome him.

Fingers Crossed.

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] Are you talking about Umar Amin?

And I think Shadab is finest prospect to come out along with Hasan Ali, Shadab has huge potential and is surely a rare talent, His batting needs to be utilized as well.

 

[Brilliance]

He bowled googlies to both Yuvraj and Jhadav which bamboozled them. Both got out to the next ball still in the awe of last ball.

Regarding Pandya , he didn't allow any of the balls to spin. He was slogging them as soon as they where landing which killed any bit of spin on them. Still he should have tried some short and straight stuff.

As being said he needs to work on his variations and how to bowl in different game situations.

My only concern is that his batting potential is being wasted. He is the most Orthodox batsman I have seen coming out of Pakistan off late. If he works on that and polishes it, he will soon be the no. 1 all-rounder in the world.

 

[ar2020]

I like what I see from him.

 

[Kianig89]

Nothing has happened he just needs 15-20 ODIs under his belt to tune up completely the guy can make our team on fielding alone

 

[Cricket World]

He is a great talent and still developing as a bowler.

 

[idrizzy]

He is certainly a strong contender because he has the right attitude. I was hopeful that Babar can be developed as captain across formats like Kohli, Root, Smith and Williamson, but he has not turned out to be captaincy material. Needs to focus on scoring consistent runs at number 3 across all formats.

He seems too quiet if anything. A timid character. However after a slow start to the tournament he ended it well. Good show of character but not captaincy material for me.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] Are you talking about Umar Amin?

And I think Shadab is finest prospect to come out along with Hasan Ali, Shadab has huge potential and is surely a rare talent, His batting needs to be utilized as well.

Yes.


Imad has best Leadership skills but his Cricketing skills are not upto mark. Needs to improve his batting and fitness quite abit otherwise within next 1 or 2 Odi series he will be dropped in favour of new player.

 

[hitthestump]

Shadab getting smacked was absolutely nothing to do with his googlies. He's got potential but still far from the finished article, he's been hit around the park in most of the ODI's he's played. Glad he's playing though, hasn't looked out of place, best way for him to become a Pak legend is at the highest level.

 

[kaifmazhar]

He should be sent to every A team tour. Also if the ex cricketers can help him get good county contract using their connections then he will be able to hone his skills in the right manner.

 

[Deewana]

In spite of not contributing much, he still manages to look like a key player. Partly because of his fielding and partly because of his confidence and attitude. He is an absolutely rare talent and I am delighted with the fact that he has been given a lot of responsibility at the age of 18. Looks like a player who will be around for 10-15 years.

if [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] appreciates a player than i am sure he is a good one..shadab is pretty decent with the bat too

 

[Mamoon]

He seems too quiet if anything. A timid character. However after a slow start to the tournament he ended it well. Good show of character but not captaincy material for me.

True.

 

[Mamoon]

if [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] appreciates a player than i am sure he is a good one..shadab is pretty decent with the bat too

Shadab has a spark that almost all the great players have. His batting needs to be utilized more, that may as well be his stronger suit.

 

[Belawal2014]

Shadab has a spark that almost all the great players have. His batting needs to be utilized more, that may as well be his stronger suit.

Shadab has superstar written all over him provided he can keep his head down and continue to grind.

 

[Hamza_]

Shadab has a spark that almost all the great players have. His batting needs to be utilized more, that may as well be his stronger suit.

He has batted in top 3 I think in U19.

I think #5-#7 is ideal position for him. It's very likely that #3 and #4 would be occupied by Babar and Haris for a long time.

 

[The_Odd_One]

I think he bowled beautifully until Pandya started slogging. Yuvraj's wicket was very important. Hopefully, he learnt a lesson that day that will improve him as a bowler.

He is not a finished article, will only improve with time.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It may seem he has more upside in his bowling now because it's his more polished skill but he's actually more gifted as a batsman but very raw at the moment. He will look vulnerable at this stage because he has technical flaws to iron out but I hope they don't waste his batting potential.

 

[Ahson8]

It may seem he has more upside in his bowling now because it's his more polished skill but he's actually more gifted as a batsman but very raw at the moment. He will look vulnerable at this stage because he has technical flaws to iron out but I hope they don't waste his batting potential.

Yep he has the potential to play as the 5th bowler in the test side who can bat at No. 6

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Yep he has the potential to play as the 5th bowler in the test side who can bat at No. 6

In 3-4 years. Just play LOIs for now. Good to have the experience under his belt though.

 

[Ahson8]

In 3-4 years. Just play LOIs for now. Good to have the experience under his belt though.

Yeah obviously not asking to rush him in. The test match he played showed that he was too raw for the test level. Hopefully he bats higher in ODIs too. Around 7/8 would be good. Should be promoted in scenarios when we need few runs to chase with a lot of balls remaining to give him more experience

 

[Hamza_]

It may seem he has more upside in his bowling now because it's his more polished skill but he's actually more gifted as a batsman but very raw at the moment. He will look vulnerable at this stage because he has technical flaws to iron out but I hope they don't waste his batting potential.

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] How do you feel he should develop his batting? He will be with Pakistan Team most of his time and probably around with Grant Flower.

And he realizes his batting potential?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] How do you feel he should develop his batting? He will be with Pakistan Team most of his time and probably around with Grant Flower.

And he realizes his batting potential?

I'm not sure tbh. Mickey has said they realize it.

What Ahson said above. Slowly bring him up the order and let him go in when a win is guaranteed. He's 18, just keep feeding him confidence and work with him behind the scenes.

 

[mak36]

Yes.


Imad has best Leadership skills but his Cricketing skills are not upto mark. Needs to improve his batting and fitness quite abit otherwise within next 1 or 2 Odi series he will be dropped in favour of new player.

If Imad doesn't perform in the next 2 ODI series, this may well be the best course of action. That said, management seems to rate him highly so not sure how likely him being dropped is...

 

[Hamza_]

I'm not sure tbh. Mickey has said they realize it.

What Ahson said above. Slowly bring him up the order and let him go in when a win is guaranteed. He's 18, just keep feeding him confidence and work with him behind the scenes.

Maybe PSL could help in this regard, however he plays for Islamabad United who promoted him up when they needed quick runs (vice versa of situation you're referring to).

Another option is test matches where he will not be restricted by number of overs.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Maybe PSL could help in this regard, however he plays for Islamabad United who promoted him up when they needed quick runs (vice versa of situation you're referring to).

Another option is test matches where he will not be restricted by number of overs.

Domestic is different obviously. He should be given full freedom there.

 

[Hamza_]

Domestic is different obviously. He should be given full freedom there.

It's very unfortunate that his batting almost has gone unrecognized till now.

Truly one player who we can call potentially blessed in all facets.

 

[QalandarFan]

Yep he has the potential to play as the 5th bowler in the test side who can bat at No. 6

I like the idea of him 8 cause it adds depth to the batting but yeah I feel he should be given a chance to bat at #6,7 in the LOI's against Sri Lanka.

 

[Savak]

Shadab needs to put in performances and needs more experience in the 4 days format in domestic cricket before he can be considered for test cricket again, he looked far too raw and impatient. Needs to get lots of overs under his belt.

 

[enigmatic_stani]

People forget just how young 18 is! Remember leg spinners don't really get to their peak until they are closer to 30.
His ceiling is scarily high!!

 

[ExpressPacer]

If anyone saw yesterdays game between India and Sri Lanka, you wouldn't have missed Akila Dananjaya's beautiful spell which absolutely ANNIHILATED India. Regardless of what the result was, this was one of the best spells I've ever seen.

A major reason why Akila Dananjaya was so successful against India's star studded batsmen was because he got six of his scalps by bowling the googly, the wrong 'un. A delivery so hard to bowl and so perplexing that not many bowlers can bowl it and barely any batsmen in the world can pick it.

Such is the volume of the delivery that all Danajaya was bowling yesterday were googlies and the batsmen already knew that a wrong 'un was coming YET they failed, and miserably may I add.

Shadab Khan was one bowler I'd seen who bowled the googly so well and found tremendous amounts of success with it. However, people, posters, fans and even his captain were quick to point out and make it known to him that he supposedly "overbowls" the great weapon and we saw him becoming more of an orthodox leggie and his success also found a small halt.

Shadab still finds success when he bowls the googly (Yuvi in final) so I don't understand why there is a need for him to stop bowling the effective delivery when he is such a master of it.

 

[Bewal Express]

If anyone saw yesterdays game between India and Sri Lanka, you wouldn't have missed Akila Dananjaya's beautiful spell which absolutely ANNIHILATED India. Regardless of what the result was, this was one of the best spells I've ever seen.

A major reason why Akila Dananjaya was so successful against India's star studded batsmen was because he got six of his scalps by bowling the googly, the wrong 'un. A delivery so hard to bowl and so perplexing that not many bowlers can bowl it and barely any batsmen in the world can pick it.

Such is the volume of the delivery that all Danajaya was bowling yesterday were googlies and the batsmen already knew that a wrong 'un was coming YET they failed, and miserably may I add.

Shadab Khan was one bowler I'd seen who bowled the googly so well and found tremendous amounts of success with it. However, people, posters, fans and even his captain were quick to point out and make it known to him that he supposedly "overbowls" the great weapon and we saw him becoming more of an orthodox leggie and his success also found a small halt.

Shadab still finds success when he bowls the googly (Yuvi in final) so I don't understand why there is a need for him to stop bowling the effective delivery when he is such a master of it.

Googly is a surprise ball and needs to be used as such because if he over bowls it, it will become ineffective and over a period time it will also lead shoulder problems. Also Shadab did not get Yuvi with a googly it was just a normal leg spinner to a left hander.

 

[FreePalestine]

I think op means it wasn't ripping square like it did to babar in the psl.
He was definitely bowning them though. Probably to do with the pitches

Yes, I think this is where the confusion is coming from. It is going to rip more in the PSL because the wickets are drier and slower, more conducive to turn, whereas in intl cricket, you get hard, flat tracks which don't turn as much. Nonetheless, his googly was still effective in intl cricket when he used it, even if it didn't turn as much, as wasn't easy to pick for batsmen who are new at the crease. Good signs.

The key to Shadab improving is not to use his googly more but to improve his consistency and control, learn how to set up a batsman and not try to get a wicket every ball.

 

[FreePalestine]

also Shadab's batting is highly underrated by players and by fans. He is already a better bat than Imad Wasim, but I am afraid his development will be stunted because he bats so low down the order. He has the talent to become a top 6 batsman in time, so I hope he keeps working hard on his technique, and piles on runs in domestic cricket when he gets the opportunity. He already has a FC hundred even though he has only played five games, so cannot be that bad!