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It's been over 10 years and the UAE just hasn't been all that good to us.

Teams having been coming here after a long time and thrashing us in our supposed home.

Plus isn't it extremely expensive to have our games in UAE?

Could we maybe make Zimbabwe our new home? Clearly our players enjoy the conditions there, beating Australia 2-1 (even though it's T20) is no easy feat.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to play in Zimbabwe?
 
Zim is a bad idea.

At least UAE has a Pakistani diaspora. How many Pakistanis do you think live in Zimbabwe?

The next best option is England but I'm pretty sure that door is firmly shut now.

For better or worse, UAE is the best option right now.
 
the_outsider said:
Zim is a bad idea.

At least UAE has a Pakistani diaspora. How many Pakistanis do you think live in Zimbabwe?

The next best option is England but I'm pretty sure that door is firmly shut now.

For better or worse, UAE is the best option right now.
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Even those Pakistanis are non-existent.

Already a lot of people have lost interest and it's only going to decrease.
 
how about returning back to pakistan through PSL, only pakistan can be our real home :pkflag
 
South Africa.

Cheap, and good preparation for tours outside Asia.

Play against Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, the West Indies and Zimbabwe in South Africa.

Play against Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa in the UAE.
 
Junaids said:
South Africa.

Cheap, and good preparation for tours outside Asia.

Play against Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, the West Indies and Zimbabwe in South Africa.

Play against Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa in the UAE.
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Smart. :))
 
todfod 11 said:
South africa is a good option... or may be sri lanka
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SA is simply not gonna happen. They have way too much on their plate right now the Global T20 thing and all that.

SL is just too small a nation for this idea to work. Not too many Pakistanis there either.

[MENTION=147763]Ned Flanders[/MENTION] there is, however, one very real option. And it can actually do a lot of good for cricket in general.

USA

Windies already play some of their internationals and CPL matches down in Florida. US also has a very sizable Pakistani and sub-continental diaspora. Moving base to USA can actually work for PCB and it can go a long way in promoting cricket in North America.
 
Insha Allah in 2 years time Pakistan will be hosting home games at home and whoever comes in the way (foreign intelligence agencies etc) will be destroyed. If other countries dont allow Pakistan to play in Pakistan than sooner or later they will suffer the same thing. Its called Karma.

Terrorism is a global problem.
 
England- if the relationship can be repaired.

Holland & Ireland? At least they are stable and have some facilities & may welcome the extra use of them or chance to share knowledge or get warm up games for their A teams or get their youngsters in as net bowlers etc. It's about a 1.5 hour flight London to Dublin...

USA is a good idea but I have no idea of the logistics.

Bangladesh?
 
If not Pakistan then England would be a very good second option. Bangladesh can also been considered as well. Saudi, China and Russia are options as well:ashwin We need to teach Cricket to our all weather friends:narine
 
Other than Pakistan will be harmful fir Pakistan. We saw how our cricket declined in last decade
 
UAE is honestly a dream venue for Pakistan. Asian conditions, not too far away, no other major team really using it, good stadiums, attractive touring destination for touring teams (many who would prefer to visit UAE over Pakistan even before the bomb blasts let alone now). Pakistani fans there too. Nothing else comes close. Said it before in some ways while fans complain about it, they don't know how lucky they are.

If let's say the same situation happened in other countries, would be extremely difficult to play in other countries. UAE is the best alt option and it's too far for most countries and too alien conditions (especially for countries like Aus, Eng, SA, NZ etc). Just happens that a country with no real extensive cricketing history or pedigree has great cricketing facilities. Which is largely down to people with money to spend. Even if UAE is expensive to play at, I'm not even sure those who built it can recoup the money they spent on it easily.

Also another reason why PSL should have been held in UAE years ago. Cricketers were more than willing to travel to what is one of the most favoured travel destinations atm.

Think it's popular to moan about the UAE, but the alternatives are really poor in comparison. I shudder to think the state of Pakistan cricket honestly if UAE wasn't an option and we already couldn't play in Pakistan. Would have been a nightmare. Hence yeah feel we're pretty lucky to play in the UAE.
 
Bnagladesh... its a win win..you get support from Bangladesh vs other countries.. against Bangladesh if you win ..you can have the bragging rights by saying you beat bangladesh at home
 
ads101 said:
UAE is honestly a dream venue for Pakistan. Asian conditions, not too far away, no other major team really using it, good stadiums, attractive touring destination for touring teams (many who would prefer to visit UAE over Pakistan even before the bomb blasts let alone now). Pakistani fans there too. Nothing else comes close. Said it before in some ways while fans complain about it, they don't know how lucky they are.

If let's say the same situation happened in other countries, would be extremely difficult to play in other countries. UAE is the best alt option and it's too far for most countries and too alien conditions (especially for countries like Aus, Eng, SA, NZ etc). Just happens that a country with no real extensive cricketing history or pedigree has great cricketing facilities. Which is largely down to people with money to spend. Even if UAE is expensive to play at, I'm not even sure those who built it can recoup the money they spent on it easily.

Also another reason why PSL should have been held in UAE years ago. Cricketers were more than willing to travel to what is one of the most favoured travel destinations atm.

Think it's popular to moan about the UAE, but the alternatives are really poor in comparison. I shudder to think the state of Pakistan cricket honestly if UAE wasn't an option and we already couldn't play in Pakistan. Would have been a nightmare. Hence yeah feel we're pretty lucky to play in the UAE.
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We've won more cricket series' overseas than at UAE against teams not named Sri Lanka.
 
We are stuck in the UAE unfortunately.

But anywhere other than the UAE will do.
 
Junaids said:
South Africa.

Cheap, and good preparation for tours outside Asia.

Play against Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, the West Indies and Zimbabwe in South Africa.

Play against Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa in the UAE.
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As if Pakistan can defeat us in South Africa.
 
PakLFC said:
If not Pakistan then England would be a very good second option. Bangladesh can also been considered as well. Saudi, China and Russia are options as well:ashwin We need to teach Cricket to our all weather friends:narine
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Since when is Russia an all-weather friend? Friendship is in the developing stages at this point
 
Any one country or more than one out of West Indies?

Great holiday location for PCB bureaucrats too. :inzi
 
Ned Flanders said:
Their one ground isn't even of international quality.

Florida is a much better option.
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I have posted many times why, when & how, won't repeat here.

Ground & other logistics are absolutely no issues - Cricket Canada & Ontario Govt. are just waiting for some financial assurance for long term so that they can invest on cricket. In GTA, over 50% Electoral seats are often decided by people, whose roots are associated with cricket - politicians will be "hungry" to support the initiative. There are over 2.3 million cricket loving people in GTA itself, and these are average $35K+/year earning people -even the next PM or Opposition Leader in Federal Govt. could be a cricket loving man!!!

I can tell that outside few Cricket playing white Nations, in Western World, none comes even remotely close to Canada on cricket prospects. You have to know a bit about how cricket expanded - British took Cricket to AUS/NZ & South Asia because these countries' Cricket season didn't cut their path with English season - English Pros used to play in home summer then on board of ship for their winter; Canadian Cricket season (5 months) exactly cuts path with British season, hence AUS is so good in cricket & not Canada, otherwise it's a sports crazy nation and spends highest per capita on sports & youth development. Obviously, one has to develop & nurture the market - less than 25 years back, I am sure, most people would have laughed at the thought that Bangladesh actually is a bigger cricket market than PAK.

Canada has land in abundance and sports facilities are so good & so well managed that actually even most of the High School grounds are in better condition than most FC grounds in PAK. 3-4 years contract of PAK team playing 6-7 ODIs & 3-4 T20s every summer, and may be few games of PSL - building/upgrading a 10K capacity International standard 70 metre ground is 3 months problem. Tax & few other issues are there, but there are loop holes as well - a Pro CPA can find enough holes to maximize return for PCB. Also, be sure that those Canadian wickets & outfield built on Canadian black soil will be MUCH, ...............MUCH better than those mud dross of UAE. PAK chased 264 in 1996 against IND & Kumble here, on a Day 3 like wicket - in UAE, chasing team will need to bat 2 times to have a remote chance for that even in 2018.

Canada is a dream land for dying a sport like cricket - China is on soccer (outside their traditional games), it's foolish to think that Cricket can expand in China when 99.999% people understands cricket means a beetle.
 
MMHS said:
I have posted many times why, when & how, won't repeat here.

Ground & other logistics are absolutely no issues - Cricket Canada & Ontario Govt. are just waiting for some financial assurance for long term so that they can invest on cricket. In GTA, over 50% Electoral seats are often decided by people, whose roots are associated with cricket - politicians will be "hungry" to support the initiative. There are over 2.3 million cricket loving people in GTA itself, and these are average $35K+/year earning people -even the next PM or Opposition Leader in Federal Govt. could be a cricket loving man!!!

I can tell that outside few Cricket playing white Nations, in Western World, none comes even remotely close to Canada on cricket prospects. You have to know a bit about how cricket expanded - British took Cricket to AUS/NZ & South Asia because these countries' Cricket season didn't cut their path with English season - English Pros used to play in home summer then on board of ship for their winter; Canadian Cricket season (5 months) exactly cuts path with British season, hence AUS is so good in cricket & not Canada, otherwise it's a sports crazy nation and spends highest per capita on sports & youth development. Obviously, one has to develop & nurture the market - less than 25 years back, I am sure, most people would have laughed at the thought that Bangladesh actually is a bigger cricket market than PAK.

Canada has land in abundance and sports facilities are so good & so well managed that actually even most of the High School grounds are in better condition than most FC grounds in PAK. 3-4 years contract of PAK team playing 6-7 ODIs & 3-4 T20s every summer, and may be few games of PSL - building/upgrading a 10K capacity International standard 70 metre ground is 3 months problem. Tax & few other issues are there, but there are loop holes as well - a Pro CPA can find enough holes to maximize return for PCB. Also, be sure that those Canadian wickets & outfield built on Canadian black soil will be MUCH, ...............MUCH better than those mud dross of UAE. PAK chased 264 in 1996 against IND & Kumble here, on a Day 3 like wicket - in UAE, chasing team will need to bat 2 times to have a remote chance for that even in 2018.

Canada is a dream land for dying a sport like cricket - China is on soccer (outside their traditional games), it's foolish to think that Cricket can expand in China when 99.999% people understands cricket means a beetle.
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Thank you for the detailed post, I appreciate it.

But all of that sounds good in theory and would never come to fruition.
 
Ned Flanders said:
Thank you for the detailed post, I appreciate it.

But all of that sounds good in theory and would never come to fruition.
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Because PCB has got it easy in UAE - off the field fringe benefits might also be there. If PCB was remotely close to what SAF went through for 20 years, by now you would have been watching more goli-danda than cricket in PAK.
 
Pakistan or UAE are only options
Other middle eastern countries hardly have any good stadiums otherwise would have been possibility
Bangladesh could have been good if terms were not complicated
Afghanistan not possible same goes to India
Srilanka is possibility but might not work
UAE seems the best alternative
 
Genuinely Bangladesh is best option. It could get the 2 nations closer together also. Another option is srilanka.
England isn't an option as season is from May to September meaning for the rest of the year we rely on foreign tours. Also England is probably too expensive. Stick to a country in Asia or maybe South Africa is an option.
 
USA sounds like a decent option but it is on the other side of the planet so it can't really be called "home"
 
Besides the UAE, currently the only other good option will be SA. This is keeping in mind the time difference for the people in Pakistan.

Bangladesh or England would have been good options too. But unfortunately the doors are closed in both cases. WI, Canada etc are just not good options, given the time difference. The PCB has to rely on the Pakistan fans to generate revenue. Playing in these places will alienate them.
 
The next best place for PAk to play should be india:ashwin
Only in india can they get actual home conditions

Apart from trolls, there no where pak cricket can progress it only needs to return to pakistan itself that is where it will flourish ,there nothing greater than to see common ppl cheering for national team in masses ,that it self rises perfomance of national team
 
In an ideal world, Pakistan is the only place we should call home.

But I feel like England, Ireland, Zimbabwe or even SL are the best options apart from UAE which is by far the best we could do.
Zimbabwe could do with the financial advantages that could give them by hosting Pakistan and other major countries. The conditions are also well suited to Pak and the time zones are also perfect. The thing is, there would be very little audience to watch our matches in Zim as there are very little Pakistani expats.

England would be a really really good option, because there are cricket fanatics there and possibly the biggest Pakistani diaspora there. Time zones are also really good and so will the facilities be. The problem there would be, they have a pretty busy schedule for themselves and Pakistani home calendar runs from September till February, the time that England is unable to host any cricket cause of the weather and stuff.

Ireland would be a bit cheaper than England but the problems are similar to England ones.

Sri Lanka have the most unpredictable weather and most of the games are rained out and the monsoon season is longer there. Plus their own busy calendar would make it difficult to host Pakistan full time. Similarly, there are not many Pakistani expats there so audience wouldn't be better than UAE. But we could host 1 or 2 series there as it will be cost effective and just to see how things go. Conditions are also good for us there except there is excessive turn on offer for spinners than there is in UAE or Pakistan.

The other options like USA and Canada are just not going to happen. It will be extremely expansive, visa troubles aren't going to make it any easier either. Plus the time zones are totally opposite and we would even lose the broadcasting audience watching games in Pakistan.

I don't have much idea regarding China or Nepal though.

So in short, UAE is still the best option, but we need to have more control on the curators and stuff.
Hopefully one day, Pakistan will be able to host all its home series in Pakistan.
 
Any of south Asian countries. Afg,nep ud be better options. If not,mal,Singapore could be other options
 
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