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What role can Babar Azam play for Pakistan in the ODI team?

BTW Babar too suffers from brain **** too (though alot lesser than Akmal) and he is not as talented as chota Akmal either. So dont get your hope up mates.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The only point I disagree with.

There are not a lot of batsmen IN THE WORLD who could become AS GOOD AS KOHLI.

Yet, in Pakistan, we have found someone who could become as good as him?

I mean, cmon.

He could be a great bat for Pakistan, but it would be impossible to reach Kohli.
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If a player like Smith can achieve heights of glory, then why not others? It's not impossible, but yes it's a fact that our players don't know how to make it possible.
 
Is this the start of another thread on the lines of Kohli v/s Akmal?? :facepalm:

Guys let a guy perform for a little while before starting comparisons with the best around. I think Babar Azam's career is doomed because of this thread already. Poor guy!
 
#GreenRoars said:
If a player like Smith can achieve heights of glory, then why not others? It's not impossible, but yes it's a fact that our players don't know how to make it possible.
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Our people first need to understand why the likes of Kohli, Root etc are Kohli and Root. There are more things than just this "talent'' required to become like them.
 
Hardwork hardwork hardwork more hardwork can do wonders for this guy unlike umar who is living on the tag of "talent" till now
 
Kohli, Root, Williamson, Smith are where they are now because they are responsible. They are all very talented which is mandatory to be one of the best. The responsibility they take to score big and win games for their teams stems from the fact that they are all good students of the game. Also notice that each of these players is either the Captain or is earmarked as a future Captain for their countries. They are all hungry and selfish. They want to hog the glory by staying until the end and winning the game for their country. Nothing distracts them away from Cricket. Their boards and captains have backed them through thick and thin. Most of all, they have the ability to perform under pressure. They also have good batsmen around them and can rely on them to string a partnership or two.

Coming to Babar, There is no doubt that he's talented. If he wants to be a Kohli, Root, Kane or Smith, he needs a solid support system. Does he have the attributes that I mentioned earlier to be the next great? We don't know yet. The sample size is small and we are just at the first stage where he proved that he's talented. I'm excited though to see how he makes the transition.
 
Its the attitude towards the game and his mental strength that separate kohli from other, Can find this attitude in Mohammad Amir but doubt if any Pakistani batsman got this .
 
Did we ever produce Kohli type of Batsmen in our cricket history? 1 or 2 good innings and people are expecting him to be Kohli. Let him to be settle him in the team first
 
I like what I've seen of Babar Azam so far.
 
Miandaud was best batsman even he was not close to Kohli or AB. Over hyping of ordinary players give them big head and no pressure to prove themselves.
 
aliasad1998 said:
You still dont understand what Im saying. I was talking in context of the respective batting lineups of the country
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I do. You think Baber is the hope to become like Kohli for Pakistan. I said Baber can't be the Kohli of Pakistan (in context of the batting line up). I'm also not equating or comparing them.
 
let him become Babar Azam of Pakistan first
and why Pakistani fans want to compare every other player with proven international players or Past players from Pakistan.
 
Virat Kohli does not gift his wicket after playing 5 dot balls and being frustrated.
 
Give him time. He has done it against international bowling on an away tour where only 2 Pakistani batsmen didnt look like tailenders. Be patient with him.
 
Immediate impact in overseas cricket, if he has good head on his shoulders he can be our first 40+ avg, 80+ SR ODI player.
 
If he puts in re hard work he can sure be.. It's all upto him and his coaches/trainers.. If he lacks dedication and hard work then he would be another mediocre player..
 
Won't be as good as kohli but trust me if this guy works hard on his game he will be a class player for us.
 
No one can be Virat Kohli. It's premature to compare someone to Kohli, that too an unproven player.
 
Balthazar said:
No one can be Virat Kohli. It's premature to compare someone to Kohli, that too an unproven player.
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There can be better players than Kohli as well.. He has set a high benchmark but it's not something future players can't beat..
 
Seriously these comparison threads would never end. Everyday there has to be someone compared to Kohli or someone else.
 
Too early to compare already. Let the guy come into the team fully first, make himself a name before such comparisons start.
 
This is not a comparison tread, the OP is trying to say that Babar can be our version of a batting superstar. Someone that's a leader in the batting department and that can fight against any attack in any conditions

Babar Azam will be what Smith is to Austraila, what Root is to England, what Williamson is to New Zealand, what kohli is to India
 
Don't think he can be as good as Kohli, who is just on another planet these days, but yes, he can easily be the mainstay of our batting; like Kohli is for India, Root is for Eng, Kane is for NZ and so on.

But needs to stay grounded and keep working hard for that to happen.
 
Anis10 said:
This is not a comparison tread, the OP is trying to say that Babar can be our version of a batting superstar. Someone that's a leader in the batting department and that can fight against any attack in any conditions

Babar Azam will be what Smith is to Austraila, what Root is to England, what Williamson is to New Zealand, what kohli is to India
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Finally people get OP is trying to say, jeez PPers are a quick bunch :91:
 
In Inzamam, Babar has got the perfect mentor and role model to follow to grow his reputation as a batsman in international cricket. Needs to keep his focus, stay grounded and keep working hard on his game, has a very bright future ahead of him
 
Thanks to those people who actually read what I said instead of jumping to conclusions.
 
Read what u said so my opinion is that he should bat at 3 in a year or 18 months. Let him get use to international cricket at 4 he should be working on his weak areas and showing signs of improvement than move him to 3. Hard work and good attitude I'm sure he will be a good player. He has the technique and temperament to be a success in all formats for Pakistan. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Umar akmal
 
Babar Azam from what I have seen has not cashed in on big runs yet...you need the apetitie for big runs like sachin or Lara or Virat or even rohit once they get set..... Pak needs to get out of this mentality of calling a. 100(105) kind of innings as selfish and a 40(25) ball knocks as legendary and unselfish.

The only guy in the pak team who seems to have an apetitie for big scores is hafeez and Babar seems more talented than him....so for paks sake lets. Hope he comes good to the party
 
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He should be our future number 3 in the next few years

At the moment he should bat at number 4 and Hafeez at 3

Hafeez has been our best limited over batsmen in the last couple of years and Babar can learn a lot from Hafeez batting together, and then eventual replace him
 
I do not care where he bats, but needs to stop throwing his wicket away. He needs to persist with that good batting temperament of his.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Needs to play test cricket to learn that.
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Not sure. It's about having the right mentality and game plan. These things are not common in Pak so I expect Mickey to tell him to just stay there till the 40th over.

In Pak most coaches would rather focus on how to hold the bat or tell you to totally forget your stroke making because its too risky and you can score in the last 5 overs.
 
Babar Azam as an opener

How you people think about Babar Azam as an opener playing under Pakistani coach Micky Arthur. Will he fill the shoes of Sharjeel khan who will be missing most likely in the next tour of West Indies.
 
I've always wanted him to open in ODIs too but people want him to stay at 3 since he's settled there which is fair
 
aliasad1998 said:
I've always wanted him to open in ODIs too but people want him to stay at 3 since he's settled there which is fair
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How many people you'd want to open for us bro :danish

Babar......Umer.......Shaziab......Shehzad ?????? :facepalm:
 
No need to change his batting postion in 2 format he should bat at 3 in odis and test .in t20 he should open the inning
 
He's not quite competent against the Inswinging delivery as evident from his opening stint against England in dubai.
 
Maybe in T20I as he takes time to play his shots but in ODI cricket,No.3 should be his permanent spot for a long time.
 
He is doing very good at 3 no need to change his position but yeah he can be tried there.
I would love to see umar akmal opening but I think it's PP's fantasy only!
 
aliasad1998 said:
He got one game as opener :facepalm:
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He has shown enough ineptitude against the moving ball for any person to make a sound judgment that he's not made for it. Play him at 3 where he's doing brilliantly, no need to be over efficient and move him up the order for no apparent reason.
 
Your best players shouldn't bat as openers, especially if they aren't natural openers. Babar is too valuable a player for Pakistan to be exposed to new ball. Maybe in T20s, but not in the other two.
 
No need to move him at number 3 . . after ages do we have a settled number 3 who can potentially hit great heights! Leave him there!
 
Does it even matter? Our opening partnerships are always short and he comes batting sooner than later
 
I wanted Babar to open for Pakistan, Haris 1 down and Sarfi 2 down..

but he has done really well at 3 so dont think they will change his position and i think he also likes it more in the middle order ..
 
IMO Babar is very settled in ODIs and we shouldn't mess with his position.

The ODI batting order should look like:

Fakhar
second opener (please not Shehzad)
Babar
Haris/Malik (Malik for now, but Haris by this time next year)
Sarfaraz
Talat
Shadab
Imad


Good striking ability at 7 and 8. Hasan Ali should come in at 9 and he is no mug with the bat, and neither is Amir at 10. Number 11 can be a proper tailender.
 
Syed1 said:
IMO Babar is very settled in ODIs and we shouldn't mess with his position.

The ODI batting order should look like:

Fakhar
second opener (please not Shehzad)
Babar
Haris/Malik (Malik for now, but Haris by this time next year)
Sarfaraz
Talat
Shadab
Imad


Good striking ability at 7 and 8. Hasan Ali should come in at 9 and he is no mug with the bat, and neither is Amir at 10. Number 11 can be a proper tailender.
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Fakhar isn't good enough
 
aliasad1998 said:
Youre right. And I dont mind. Sensible people will know that Im not comparing them but comparing their roles for their respecitive teams
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But, who are the "sensible people" is the more important question here. Anyone who agrees with you? right?
 
Hamzakhalid said:
Fakhar isn't good enough
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And how did you make that assessment?


Fakhar was one of the highest averaging openers for the last two domestic seasons. He is also in the top 10 run scorers in this year's PSL despite his team being the first ones to be eliminated. Fun fact: Umar Akmal isn't even in the top 10.
 
1)Saifi
2)Shehzzy
3)Babar
4)Usman Salahuddin
5)Malik
6)U Akmal
7)Sohail Khan
8)Rumman Raees
9)Nawaz
10)Shadab Khan
11)Hassan Ali

Back up Players:
WK: Rizwan(unfortunately there's no one else)
Azhar Ali
Sohaib Maqsood
Fawad Alam
Anwar Ali
Hassan Khan
M Sami
M Amir
 
Syed1 said:
And how did you make that assessment?


Fakhar was one of the highest averaging openers for the last two domestic seasons. He is also in the top 10 run scorers in this year's PSL despite his team being the first ones to be eliminated. Fun fact: Umar Akmal isn't even in the top 10.
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By watching him bat.

He is dominant against spin, Joke against pace.
 
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