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Kohli The King of Chase

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First, let me start by saying no disrespect to you people. But, I am literally sick by these useless matches where one team is eating the other alive.

I can't even recall how many useless matches and series I have come across over the past year or two.

There has been a time where I even used to watch some Zimbabwe, but now I just can't follow SL and BAN even on CI.


Pakistan has been the same for some years but, they came back strongly. Pakistan has its own issues. Not playing at home, no IPL, no cricket with India. But still they reached 2011 SF, 2012 SF, Won Aane do series, won the CT, A GAINT in tests until 2016. Drew in England in 2016 and 2018.

But they went down from 2012-2016 in LOIs. Then what next? They come back strongly. And me being an Indian I would say Pak has a chance in most of the ICC tournaments.


West Indies, again like Pakistan has their issues with players tho, but won 2 T20 WCs, now improving leaps and bounds in Tests. It's just a matter of time before they come good in odis, once they sort out the issues with players and hire few decent spin consultants.



But, BAN playing cricket from decades, years of BPL but same old story. Their fans saying Shakib is best AR, Tamim best opener, Mushi is best WK batsmen but, output is NULL .

SL is going down like no tomorrow, yes have been good in tests at home, but joy is for a very short time now, as Hearth will be gone. Yes you have lost Sanga, Dilshan, Malinga, Mahela but, where is the backup?

Why no bench strength? Same Perera who's neither a bowler nor a bowler is leading the attack.

To add insult to the injury, I even don't like to know their players nowadays. If anything it's same Perera, Silva, Fernando, Kusal, like really? I can't even know whether he's same Perera/ Kusal/ Silva making a comeback or a new player.



I can accept defeats from Scotland, Afghanistan and Ireland, as they're trying to improve.

I can ignore Zimbabwe as they're a nothing team nowadays, isolated by Intetnational boards and rightfully so


But what about Sri Lanka and Bangladesh?

Either they should be so bad like Zim to be ignored by the international community or be competitive atleast like Pakistan and West Indies. Alas, they are neither.

These two teams just want to play a lot of matches and "just play".

Its been nearly 4 years since the SL greats have gone and SL is still in the building stage. Its been decades of cricket for Bangladesh and is still trying to figure out how to be competitive. Now don't say u reached QF in 2015 and SF in 2017, we all know how and what it was.


What irks me more is that these 2 teams want to play 3 match test series and 5 matches odi series. Which is just like asking ur enemy to give u a slow death, rather than finishing with 2 match test and 3 match odi series.


One serious question. Can anything be done to solve these useless one sided series after series?, or we have to just accept the truth and move on.
 
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Bangladesh won today?

Also, who are you to dictate who can and cant play cricket? And if your solution to make BD and SL compete better with top ranked sides, despite the former being very good at home, is to stop them playing them altogether, well they'll hardly get any better will they.
 
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I wish ICC could use this Division system in Test and odis. Division 1 and 2 in tests, division 1, 2 and 3 in odis.

Division 1

India
Pakistan
Australia
South Africa
England
New Zealand

Division 2

West Indies
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Ireland

Division 3

Netherlands
Scotland
Nepal
Uae



After 4 years bottom team in division 1 would be demoted to division 2 and top team from division 2 to be promoted to division 1. The cycle should repeat every 4 years.



10 teams in ICC WC, 6 from division 1 and top 4 from division 2. T20I WC all 16 teams.

Tests should be played by division and 2 in between themselves.
 
I wish ICC could use this Division system in Test and odis. Division 1 and 2 in tests, division 1, 2 and 3 in odis.

Division 1

India
Pakistan
Australia
South Africa
England
New Zealand

Division 2

West Indies
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Ireland

Division 3

Netherlands
Scotland
Nepal
Uae



After 4 years bottom team in division 1 would be demoted to division 2 and top team from division 2 to be promoted to division 1. The cycle should repeat every 4 years.



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I agree with this but you are aware every single attempt at introducing a divisional system is immediately shot down by the FM's themselves?
 
I wish ICC could use this Division system in Test and odis. Division 1 and 2 in tests, division 1, 2 and 3 in odis.

Division 1

India
Pakistan
Australia
South Africa
England
New Zealand

Division 2

West Indies
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Ireland

Division 3

Netherlands
Scotland
Nepal
Uae



After 4 years bottom team in division 1 would be demoted to division 2 and top team from division 2 to be promoted to division 1. The cycle should repeat every 4 years.



10 teams in ICC WC, 6 from division 1 and top 4 from division 2. T20I WC all 16 teams.

Tests should be played by division and 2 in between themselves.

Promotion and relegation is a stupid idea unfit for cricket. It will be the same teams moving up and down every time. There is no growth if with +1, -1. Teams should only be added to Test/ODI status as they develop and improve like Afghanistan and Ireland, and should only be suspended or banned for exceptional cases (possibly Zimbabwe).
 
Bangladesh won today?

Also, who are you to dictate who can and cant play cricket? And if your solution to make BD and SL compete better with top ranked sides, despite the former being very good at home, is to stop them playing them altogether, well they'll hardly get any better will they.

Bangladesh has been pathetic right from their 1st ever test. They havent done much in LOI ICC tourneys. So they always have been poor.
 
I disagree.

SL whitewashed Pakistan in UAE,Australia and SA at home.They are at their lowest point but they still have some talented youngsters than can bring them back to their best.They have contributed a lot to international cricket.They have produced legends like Jayasuria,Vaas,Murali and Sangakkara.Don't forget,they also beat India in the CT.

Bangladesh have also improved a lot in recent times.They jut won an ODI series against WI in WI.They are really competitive at home,in ODIs and Tests.They did decently on their last tour to SL.I do not like the arrogance some of their players and supporters,but they also have potential.

To summarize,cricket needs more teams,not less.ICC should take over ZCB.Ireland,Zimbabwe and Afghanistan should play more often against the big teams.Nepal,Netherlands and Scotland should also play more games against full members.
 
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First, let me start by saying no disrespect to you people. But, I am literally sick by these useless matches where one team is eating the other alive.

I can't even recall how many useless matches and series I have come across over the past year or two.

There has been a time where I even used to watch some Zimbabwe, but now I just can't follow SL and BAN even on CI.


Pakistan has been the same for some years but, they came back strongly. Pakistan has its own issues. Not playing at home, no IPL, no cricket with India. But still they reached 2011 SF, 2012 SF, Won Aane do series, won the CT, A GAINT in tests until 2016. Drew in England in 2016 and 2018.

But they went down from 2012-2016 in LOIs. Then what next? They come back strongly. And me being an Indian I would say Pak has a chance in most of the ICC tournaments.


West Indies, again like Pakistan has their issues with players tho, but won 2 T20 WCs, now improving leaps and bounds in Tests. It's just a matter of time before they come good in odis, once they sort out the issues with players and hire few decent spin consultants.



But, BAN playing cricket from decades, years of BPL but same old story. Their fans saying Shakib is best AR, Tamim best opener, Mushi is best WK batsmen but, output is NULL .

SL is going down like no tomorrow, yes have been good in tests at home, but joy is for a very short time now, as Hearth will be gone. Yes you have lost Sanga, Dilshan, Malinga, Mahela but, where is the backup?

Why no bench strength? Same Perera who's neither a bowler nor a bowler is leading the attack.

To add insult to the injury, I even don't like to know their players nowadays. If anything it's same Perera, Silva, Fernando, Kusal, like really? I can't even know whether he's same Perera/ Kusal/ Silva making a comeback or a new player.



I can accept defeats from Scotland, Afghanistan and Ireland, as they're trying to improve.

I can ignore Zimbabwe as they're a nothing team nowadays, isolated by Intetnational boards and rightfully so


But what about Sri Lanka and Bangladesh?

Either they should be so bad like Zim to be ignored by the international community or be competitive atleast like Pakistan and West Indies. Alas, they are neither.

These two teams just want to play a lot of matches and "just play".

Its been nearly 4 years since the SL greats have gone and SL is still in the building stage. Its been decades of cricket for Bangladesh and is still trying to figure out how to be competitive. Now don't say u reached QF in 2015 and SF in 2017, we all know how and what it was.


What irks me more is that these 2 teams want to play 3 match test series and 5 matches odi series. Which is just like asking ur enemy to give u a slow death, rather than finishing with 2 match test and 3 match odi series.


One serious question. Can anything be done to solve these useless one sided series after series?, or we have to just accept the truth and move on.

Spot on.

There are only 5 quality teams in the world that bothers for me now:-

Australia
SA
India
England
New Zealand
 
I m feeling sorry for myself for reading that wall of text which made absolutely no sense what so ever.

Quite a few Bangladeshi players r playing with injuries, they have just lost their best opener and BD is playing under a new coach who perhaps hasn't spent enough time with the players to even know their names. Obviously these things played their part and prevented BD from playing their natural game.

OP clearly has little to no idea what he's talking about. Otherwise he would have known that 15/16 years is hardly that long time for a team to flourish in international cricket. India couldn't win a single test in their first 20 years of test cricket. Yes, u read that right. India continuously kept getting humiliated for freaking 20 years but that didn't stop them from playing tests. did it?

Secondly, even now after having 100 years of playing experience India get destroyed whenever they play tests outside their doctored home Pitches. Does this mean India is an embarrassment in test cricket and should stop playing tests in Aus, NZ , SA and ENG?

Bangladesh has achieved 10 times more in their first 20 years of cricket than India achieved in their first 20 years. But here we r an Indian is accusing a team as slow learners and talking rubbish about a team that just won an odi and t20 series in WI, drew test series in srilanka, won test series in WI, went to the quarterfinal and semifinal in last two ICC tournaments and won countless odis against top ranked teams.
 
I m feeling sorry for myself for reading that wall of text which made absolutely no sense what so ever.

Quite a few Bangladeshi players r playing with injuries, they have just lost their best opener and BD is playing under a new coach who perhaps hasn't spent enough time with the players to even know their names. Obviously these things played their part and prevented BD from playing their natural game.

OP clearly has little to no idea what he's talking about. Otherwise he would have known that 15/16 years is hardly that long time for a team to flourish in international cricket. India couldn't win a single test in their first 20 years of test cricket. Yes, u read that right. India continuously kept getting humiliated for freaking 20 years but that didn't stop them from playing tests. did it?

Secondly, even now after having 100 years of playing experience India get destroyed whenever they play tests outside their doctored home Pitches. Does this mean India is an embarrassment in test cricket and should stop playing tests in Aus, NZ , SA and ENG?

Bangladesh has achieved 10 times more in their first 20 years of cricket than India achieved in their first 20 years. But here we r an Indian is accusing a team as slow learners and talking rubbish about a team that just won an odi and t20 series in WI, drew test series in srilanka, won test series in WI, went to the quarterfinal and semifinal in last two ICC tournaments and won countless odis against top ranked teams.

Excuses and more excuses. The team and the fans have hide behind excuses all the time. Sometimes, it is good if one stands up as a man and admits the short coming and say that they don't deserve to be in that position.
 
I wish ICC could use this Division system in Test and odis. Division 1 and 2 in tests, division 1, 2 and 3 in odis.

Division 1

India
Pakistan
Australia
South Africa
England
New Zealand

Division 2

West Indies
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Ireland

Division 3

Netherlands
Scotland
Nepal
Uae



After 4 years bottom team in division 1 would be demoted to division 2 and top team from division 2 to be promoted to division 1. The cycle should repeat every 4 years.



10 teams in ICC WC, 6 from division 1 and top 4 from division 2. T20I WC all 16 teams.

Tests should be played by division and 2 in between themselves.

Pakistan should be in 2nd division if not 3rd
 
Bangladesh's talent is due to lack of a good leader. Rahim and Shakib are way too immature for seniors. Mortaza looks confidence time to time.

SL case is so depressing. I think SL struck a luck to have had all the players they had from 1996 to 2015. Think about it, SL is a small country, cricket restricted to small area. I think their talent ran out. They can be like Zimbabwe of late 90s-early 2000s but can't expect much,
 
Pakistan should be in 2nd division if not 3rd

Let us see what has Pakistan and Bangladesh achieved in last 20 years in Cricket :).

99 WC Pak Final
2007 T20 WC Final
2009 T20 WC Winners
2016 Test Mache
2017 Champions trophy Winners


thats 5 damm major achievements in last 20 years, and wont even count the meaningless Asia cups and Semi Finals of world cups.

Now look at Bangladesh,

99-nagin dance
2018 nagin dance


:)
 
Move Bangladesh and Sri Lanka to 2nd tier. Bring tier system as mentioned above.

ICC should be worried about quality and not quantity.
 
Sri Lanka,Bangladesh and Zimbabwe must be forced to play bilaterals with each other for the next 5 years until one of them rises above the rest and they can then be reintegrated with the rest of the International sides...
 
Giving T20i Status To All Member Good Move More Competition Come And Need 20 Member World Cup T20i

For Odi You Just Introduced Asia Cup Like TOURNAMENT Also In T20i.

Arica Oceania Cup: Include South Africa , Zimbabwe, Kenya Or , Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea Or Malaysia

Euro America Cup: Includes West indies , USA/Canada/Bermuda ,
ENGLAND, Scotland, Ireland, Netherland

Make odi World Cup Of 16 Teams Like 2007 Where We Seen Big Upsets

Don't Give Test Status To More Teams ...
 
Sri Lanka,Bangladesh and Zimbabwe must be forced to play bilaterals with each other for the next 5 years until one of them rises above the rest and they can then be reintegrated with the rest of the International sides...

So SL beat Pakistan away in tests (which no other team could do), but they're still not as good as other teams like WI and Pakistan?
 
1. Gayle
2. Lewis
3. Hope (wk)
4. Hetmyer
5. Pollard/Samuels
6. Russell
7. Holder (c)
8. Narine
9. Nurse
10. Roach/McCoy
11. Thomas

If WI field this XI in the WC, then I don't think people should take them lightly. But realistically, I would be surprised if Russell, Pollard and Narine gets picked for the WC.
 
When were you when we lost to’ zimbabway and Bangladesh. Show respect as Bangladesh is on the rise and this Zimbabwean team is quite decent.
 
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