What should be Pakistan's ODI squad for the 2018 tour of New Zealand?

[babajee]

What do you guys think the squad for the NZ odi series should be?

For me:
1) Azhar
2) Fakhar
3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Malik
6) Sarfraz
7) Faheem
8) Shadab
9) Hasan
10) Amir
11) Junaid

Bench:
12) Imam
13) Imad
14) Rumman
15) Yamin


But I know they won’t drop Hafeez

 

[DRsohail]

drop hafiz give umar amin a chance...no yamin now and give another opener a chance.no azhar please,,,rest the same squad except mir for shinwari.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

First priority should be to drop Junaid.

 

[babajee]

First priority should be to drop Junaid.

And bring in Bashir/Ehtisham/Irfan?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

And bring in Bashir/Ehtisham/Irfan?

Yes, preferably. Replacing him with an allrounder works as well.

 

[Square Drive]

Yes, preferably. Replacing him with an allrounder works as well.

Write down your preferred 15-man squad here Chiefster.

 

[babajee]

Yes, preferably. Replacing him with an allrounder works as well.

Do you think it’s possible that they will drop Junaid... he hasn’t done too bad this series?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Do you think it’s possible that they will drop Junaid... he hasn’t done too bad this series?

No, they won't drop him. Just me hoping because I can't stand watching the mediocrity. Feels like I'm watching an Indian/Lankan/Bangladeshi bowler with no skill or pace.

 

[kingusama92]

Ideally, I'd prefer a hard-hitting batsman over Azhar Ali.

BUT, I don't see anyone who can take that spot.

Batsmen

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam ul Haq
3) Babar Azam
4) Shoaib Malik
5) Haris Sohail
6) Azhar Ali (Bound to come back)

WK

1) Sarfraz Ahmed
2) Mohammad Rizwan (Can be specialist batsman if needed)

Fast Bowlers

1) Mohammad Amir
2) Hasan Ali
3) Rumman Raees
4) Junaid Khan
5) Faheem Ashraf

Spinners

1) Shadab Khan
2) Imad Wasim

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Ideally I would like to see one of Sadaf or Ehtesham in odis soon but that wont happen and understandable too.. Also would like to see Raza back but dont think NZ is the best place for him to make a comeback..

Hafeez and Shehzad should be dropped from the current side...

 

[Godhelpma]

Azhar must return to the side for NZ tour because the current batsmen does not give the feeling and confidence that they won't collapse while facing the Black caps.So he is needed for the stability of the batting order although it can cost us 15-20 runs per match .Rest of the squad is okay with Shehzad dropped .

 

[babajee]

Azhar must return to the side for NZ tour because the current batsmen does not give the feeling and confidence that they won't collapse while facing the Black caps.So he is needed for the stability of the batting order although it can cost us 15-20 runs per match .Rest of the squad is okay with Shehzad dropped .

That’s what I think too. Also the Azhar-Fakhar opening partnership worked extremely well in the champions trophy.

 

[Hamza_]

Sahibzada
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfraz
Shadab
Fahim
Hasan
Amir
Rumman

Umar Amin, Azhar Ali, Amir Yamin and Usman Shinwari.

 

[MMHS]

2 Openers: Fakhar, Amin
4 Middle Orders: Babar, Haris, Malik, New kid (may be Saad Ali, in brilliant form and scoring at high SR in FC)
3 All rounders: Shadab, Fahim, Yamin
2 WKs: Sarfraz, New Kid (May be the U19 WK, doing great in QEA)
1 Spinner: Raza Hasan
4 pacers: Amir, Hasan, Raees, New Kid (At least half a dozen should be there - any one will do, as long as officially U23). Tend to follow Bilawal Iqbal, but he is almost 29 - anyone, any clue of him? Stats are extremely impressive for a No. 8 pace bowling all-rounder. Ammad Butt is another option - bottom line is, 4th pacer must have to better than JK and should bat a bit.

Amir as deputy.

If Azhar Ali plays, PAK is going to lose 1-4 or at best 2-3. Otherwise, should win it 3-2 or even 4-1. Even MoHa is a much better pick than AA, even in current status.

 

[Hamza78]

2 Openers: Fakhar, Amin
4 Middle Orders: Babar, Haris, Malik, New kid (may be Saad Ali, in brilliant form and scoring at high SR in FC)
3 All rounders: Shadab, Fahim, Yamin
2 WKs: Sarfraz, New Kid (May be the U19 WK, doing great in QEA)
1 Spinner: Raza Hasan
4 pacers: Amir, Hasan, Raees, New Kid (At least half a dozen should be there - any one will do, as long as officially U23). Tend to follow Bilawal Iqbal, but he is almost 29 - anyone, any clue of him? Stats are extremely impressive for a No. 8 pace bowling all-rounder. Ammad Butt is another option - bottom line is, 4th pacer must have to better than JK and should bat a bit.

Amir as deputy.

If Azhar Ali plays, PAK is going to lose 1-4 or at best 2-3. Otherwise, should win it 3-2 or even 4-1. Even MoHa is a much better pick than AA, even in current status.

What u talking about azhar is one of the reason Pakistan win CT the way he play in final give fakhar more time to settle otherwise fakhar will gone alot earlier if azhar play Pakistan will win 5-0

 

[MMHS]

What u talking about azhar is one of the reason Pakistan win CT the way he play in final give fakhar more time to settle otherwise fakhar will gone alot earlier if azhar play Pakistan will win 5-0

Those are one offs; teams should be built on "type" of player, not based score at random match. PAK would have won Test series 2-0 had Azhar batted at 1/2 and an even someone like Bilal was in playing XI over one of Sami/Shan.

I am damn sure you don't know who was Collis Kings - but that guy allowed a certain Viv Richards to win 1979 WC Final. Viv was 47 when he joined at 99/4, and reached 50 keeping Viv at 49. These things happen - Azhar Ali isn't a LO player, which even PSL teams realized by 1/3 duration of 1st PSL. PAK won't beat NZ, with a 35-38 runs gap after 10 overs of each side ............

 

[ask_analyse_act]

good to see few of them here rating amin as an opener but sarfi never gives chance to amin and now Haris is added to the Amin's LIST...

 

[ExpressPacer]

Can't believe some people are willing to drop Usman.

1) Imam Ul Haq
2) FZ
3) Babar Azam
4) Harris Sohail
5) Shoaib Malik
6) Fahim Ashraf
7) Sarfraz Ahmed
8) Shadab Khan
9) Hasan Ali
10) Usman Khan
11) Mohammad Amir

12) Rumman Raees
13) Junaid Khan
14) Umar Amin
15) Sahibzada Farhan

 

[Greenstorm]

Sarfaraz should bat at 4 in place of Hafeez.


1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Haris Sohail
3) Babar Azam
4) Sarfaraz Ahmed
5) Shadab Khan
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Faheem Ashraf
8) Imad Wasim
9) Hassan Ali
10) Mohammad Amir
11) Rumman Raes


12) Junaid Khan
13) Usman Khan
14) Sahibzada Farhan
15) Saif Badar

 

[khurram39]

I think job of Fakhar Zaman is done. He will be exposed by NZ seamers by in swing bowling.

Fakhar
Azhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfraz
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Raees

Junaid
Imad
Haris
Imam

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Think Pakistan will win the series.. Haris and Fahim must play..
Haris is the best player of pace in Pakistan and don't think Imad will be useful on those small grounds of NZ while Faheem can be handy.

 

[babajee]

Think Pakistan will win the series.. Haris and Fahim must play..
Haris is the best player of pace in Pakistan and don't think Imad will be useful on those small grounds of NZ while Faheem can be handy.

Do you think Azhar should open again?

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Do you think Azhar should open again?

If Imam and Shehzad are the alternatives, then yes.. Boult is a good swing bowler and Azhar can play the moving bowl well..

 

[Nasty Naz]

If Imam and Shehzad are the alternatives, then yes.. Boult is a good swing bowler and Azhar can play the moving bowl well..

You mean just block it for a while until he gets out at like 15(30). Azhar is incredible in Tests but he is a very poor LOI batsmen who simply doesn't have the shots or ability to play attacking shots and isn't that good at rotating the strike either. If you look over his career, he has basically feasted on poor bowling attacks like Bangladesh/Zimbabwe/West Indies. Those are the only teams he has managed a strike of 76 or higher against those teams.

If there are limited opening options, then Sarfraz should open. Career wise, he has batted pretty well at that spot as well and it would be great to see Fakhar and Sarfraz bat together since they can both rotate the strike well.

 

[babajee]

You mean just block it for a while until he gets out at like 15(30). Azhar is incredible in Tests but he is a very poor LOI batsmen who simply doesn't have the shots or ability to play attacking shots and isn't that good at rotating the strike either. If you look over his career, he has basically feasted on poor bowling attacks like Bangladesh/Zimbabwe/West Indies. Those are the only teams he has managed a strike of 76 or higher against those teams.

If there are limited opening options, then Sarfraz should open. Career wise, he has batted pretty well at that spot as well and it would be great to see Fakhar and Sarfraz bat together since they can both rotate the strike well.

Did you watch the champions trophy?

 

[rajimam]

Can Umar Amin be considered for opening position with Fakhar Zaman in NZ ODI series?

 

[coy0607]

1. Replace Hafeez with some - maybe Aamer Yamin or M Nawaz
2. Do NOT bring back Azhar
3. Drop Junaid for Aamir
4. Drop Shehzad and replace him with S Farhan or Umar Amin

 

[Zeshan547]

Sahibzada
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfraz
Shadab
Fahim
Hasan
Amir
Rumman

Umar Amin, Azhar Ali, Amir Yamin and Usman Shinwari.

Almost Perfect, but i would make 2 minor changes, swap Sarf and Malik positions , sarfraz is useless at no.6 specially if comes after 40th over, his strike rotation is ideal for middle overs i may even push him ahead of haris just to make sarf more useful even though bobby at 3 and harry at 4 is mouth watering prospect, secondly would have shinwari over rumman in playing XI on current form, but overall your 15 member squad is best possible modern day ODI team we can put up. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] would you agree?

 

[Zeshan547]

Can't believe some people are willing to drop Usman.

1) Imam Ul Haq
2) FZ
3) Babar Azam
4) Harris Sohail
5) Shoaib Malik
6) Fahim Ashraf
7) Sarfraz Ahmed
8) Shadab Khan
9) Hasan Ali
10) Usman Khan
11) Mohammad Amir

12) Rumman Raees
13) Junaid Khan
14) Umar Amin
15) Sahibzada Farhan

sarfraz has no buisness below 5, you would rather drop him than playing him below 5.

 

[ManFan]

The squad should look like this:
Openers: Imam, Fakhar
Middle Order: Babar, Haris, Sarfraz, Fahim, Saad Ali
Lower Order: Fahim, Shadab,
Bowlers: Amir, Hasan, Junaid, Shinwari, Raees, Raza Hasan

 

[Brilliance]

1 Azhar.
2 Fakhar.
3 Babar.
4 Haris.
5 Malik.
6 Sarfaraz.
7 Faheem.
8 Shadab.
9 Hassan.
10 Amir.
11 Rumman.

12 Rizwan.
13 Usman.
14 Yamin.
15 Raza Hassan.
16 Imam ul Haq.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Please no Azhar, Wahab, Junaid, Shehzad, Hafeez

 

[Rayyman]

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfraz*+
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Junaid
---------------
Nawaz
Aslam
Usman
Rizwan+
Rumman

 

[Abdullah]

It is hard to pick 15

3 openers will be imam fakhar and azhar
Middle order bats will be haris babar malik hafeez

Only 5 of the above 7 will play. 2 will be on the bench

Sarfaraz will be wicket kper

Imad shadab fahim will be the all rounders

Hasan amir usman and rumman

That completes 15 but no junaid. They would also want to include another fast bowling allrounder for that tour (yamin- talat) but im not sure they will want to drop imad to do this. Reason being hafeez is normally insurance for shadab but if hafeez cant bowl they maybe more inclined to play imad.
All this makes me think if hafeez is banned maybe he will be the casualty for the fast bowling allrounder.

 

[Amjid Javed]

The batting will be severely tested in kiwi conditions and we will soon find out if we are a decent ODI outfit or not, we weren't very competitive in last ODI series we played there.

 

[hussain.r97]

Fakhar Zaman
Mohammad Hafeez
Babar Azam
Sarfraz Ahmed+*
Haris Sohail
Shoaib Malik
Faheem Ashraf
Shadab Khan
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Usman Khan

Amir Yamin
Rumman Raees
Junaid Khan
Imam ul Haq
Imad Wasim

 

[ExpressPacer]

This is an extremely important tour for a number of reasons. Not only will we be able to finally judge whether our team is all that special or not but also the fact that we should be able to get rid off the deadweight in our team. Azhar Ali and Hafeez need to be dropped from the squad regardless BEFORE the tour. Both are on the wrong side of 30 and we have much better choices available.

Imad Wasim needs to be given a last chance and if doesn't perform, he needs to be dropped. Similarly for Amir, he needs to perform or risk being replaced in a future series. Definitely not the most immediate one post NZ but he needs to up the ante.

My 15 man squad would be:

1) FZ - Best opener we have in Pakistan.
2) Imam Ul Haq - Justified his position after a debut ton and a solid 45*.
3) Babar Azam - Best batsman in the team.
4) Harris Sohail - Best batsman against pace.
5) Shoaib Malik - Adds versatility with fast paced batting and spin.
6) Sarfi - First man on the team sheet.
7) Fahim Ashraf - Adds a seam option and destructive (supposedly) batting.
8) Shadab Khan - Gun all rounder.
9) Hasan Ali - Best pacer in the team.
10) Mohammad Amir - 2nd Best pacer.
11) Usman Khan - Best swing bowler in Pakistan and will be extremely crucial in NZ.

12) Rumman Raees - He should be the first man replacing any fast bowler if they aren't effective in the first match or if anyone sustains an injury.
13) Imad Wasim.
14) Junaid Khan
15) A good batsman.

Not really sure as to how Shadab's spin would be successful in NZ but he needs to be in the XI solely for his batting considering we're going to need a deep batting lineup and his athelticism on the field.

There is a lot of healthy competition in bowling and if any of the bowlers have an off day, they can easily be replaced. I would give Amir the first two games, but if ineffective, Rumman should come in. And Imad only makes the XI if one of the batsmen sustain an injury or if Fahim has a really, really bad game with both bat and ball.

New Zealand is going to be the real test and while being that, it is also the perfect opportunity for Pakistan to test out their young squad in alien conditions and if they really live up to the hype.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Shoaib
Sarfraz(C/WK)
Fahim
Shadab
Usman
Hasan
Amir


Azhar
Junaid
Rumman
Umar Amin

 

[another drop catch]

01. Fakhar zaman
02. Imam ul haq
03. Babar azam
04. Harris sohail
05. Shoaib malik
06. Sarfraz ahmed
07. Faheem ashraf
08. Shadab khan
09. Mohd Aamer
10. Hassan ali
11. Junaid khan

reserves

12. Sahibzada Farhan
13. Umar Amin
14. Aamer yamin
15. Imad wasim
16. Rumman Raees
somehow add Usman khan also

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Ideally in my delusional world


1. Farhan
2. Fahkar
3. Babar
4. Safraz
5. Malik
6. Hammad/Talat
7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Shinwari

12. Ruman
13. Haris
14. Imad
15. Imam



What i expect expect however is the same team we have no but Amir for Junaid

 

[MightyObnoxious]

My 11 would be
Fakhar
Sarfie
Babar
Haris
Malik
Hafeez
Faheem/Imad
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Junaid/Ruman/Shinwari

 

[Bilal7]

Inzamam will go a great job once again but my personal picks would be the following:

1) Imam ul Haq
2) Fakhar Zaman
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Shoaib Malik
6) Sarfaraz Ahmed
7) Faheem Ashraf
8) Shadab Khan
9) Mohammad Amir
10) Hassan Ali
11) Junaid Khan

12) Azhar Ali
13) Imad Wasim
14) Rumman Raees
15) Usman Khan Shinwari
16) Usman Salahuddin/Mohammad Hafeez

This is a realistic team but also the best we have. Hafeez's inclusion is based on him still being able to bowl.

 

[shah_1]

Expect Ahmed Shehzad to be dropped for Azhar Ali and Amir to come back.

I don't know what selection committee will do if Hafeez is banned from bowling, hopefully he is dropped for young batsman. Apart from this, don't expect too many changes

 

[The_Odd_One]

Openers: Fakhar, Azhar, and Imam
Batsmen: Babar, Haris, Hafeez, Malik
Keeper: Sarfraz
All-roundeare: Shadab, Imad, Fahim
Bowlers: Aamir, Junaid, Usman, Rumman

 

[MMHS]

Almost Perfect, but i would make 2 minor changes, swap Sarf and Malik positions , sarfraz is useless at no.6 specially if comes after 40th over, his strike rotation is ideal for middle overs i may even push him ahead of haris just to make sarf more useful even though bobby at 3 and harry at 4 is mouth watering prospect, secondly would have shinwari over rumman in playing XI on current form, but overall your 15 member squad is best possible modern day ODI team we can put up. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] would you agree?

Not with S Farhan. Only few matches and his heroics are in PAK Cup on 300+ wickets against domestic bowlers minus PAK Internationals (& back ups), under stinky fielding and toxic Captaincy.

Probably No. 11 we'll have to see between Raees, Shinwari or any new kid, so fair enough - till yesterday, Raees was ahead of the 3.

In NZ you should need 3.5 pacers, so Fahim comes, while Mian & Hari are good enough to make it 1.5 spin attack.

Amin replaces Farhan in XI, and I'll pick Saad Ali instead of Azhar in squad. And, I'll pick Raja Hasan in 15 & Ammad Butt in the squad if 16 players are allowed. These 3 are type of players that's needed outside Asia. I hear contrasting views regarding Saad Ali, but the guy is killing it this season and still has 55/85 sort of domestic List A stats - can't be worse than Imam. If his fitness is acceptable, Umar makes the squad as 2nd WK

So, my team (again, I have listed at top) -

1-3: Fakhar, Amin, Babar (Ideally Babar should bat at 2 & Amin at 3, which makes it fantastic 1-11 left right mix, but not a big deal)
4-5: Sarfraz+*, Haris
6-8: Malik, Fahim, Shadab
9-11: Amir, Hasan, Shinwari
----------------------------------------------
Saad Ali, Raees, Raja, Yamin (Umar, if fit)
Ammad Butt/Hammad

However, Fakhar has to improve - he is going south at alarming rate from his CT Final peak. Sarfraz's best role is like Ryder Cup - non playing Captain, which isn't possible so next best is to avail him a spot where he has the best chance to contribute and be a confident leader - he isn't the best with gloves, so if he keeps batting like this, at a certain point of time he'll lose confidence, particularly if team starts to lose - that's the end of him. More than anything, he is a confidence guy.

Good unit for NZ/UK condition - if 1-6 can deliver with bat, almost WC winning team in UK.

 

[babajee]

Not with S Farhan. Only few matches and his heroics are in PAK Cup on 300+ wickets against domestic bowlers minus PAK Internationals (& back ups), under stinky fielding and toxic Captaincy.

Probably No. 11 we'll have to see between Raees, Shinwari or any new kid, so fair enough - till yesterday, Raees was ahead of the 3.

In NZ you should need 3.5 pacers, so Fahim comes, while Mian & Hari are good enough to make it 1.5 spin attack.

Amin replaces Farhan in XI, and I'll pick Saad Ali instead of Azhar in squad. And, I'll pick Raja Hasan in 15 & Ammad Butt in the squad if 16 players are allowed. These 3 are type of players that's needed outside Asia. I hear contrasting views regarding Saad Ali, but the guy is killing it this season and still has 55/85 sort of domestic List A stats - can't be worse than Imam. If his fitness is acceptable, Umar makes the squad as 2nd WK

So, my team (again, I have listed at top) -

1-3: Fakhar, Amin, Babar (Ideally Babar should bat at 2 & Amin at 3, which makes it fantastic 1-11 left right mix, but not a big deal)
4-5: Sarfraz+*, Haris
6-8: Malik, Fahim, Shadab
9-11: Amir, Hasan, Shinwari
----------------------------------------------
Saad Ali, Raees, Raja, Yamin (Umar, if fit)
Ammad Butt/Hammad

However, Fakhar has to improve - he is going south at alarming rate from his CT Final peak. Sarfraz's best role is like Ryder Cup - non playing Captain, which isn't possible so next best is to avail him a spot where he has the best chance to contribute and be a confident leader - he isn't the best with gloves, so if he keeps batting like this, at a certain point of time he'll lose confidence, particularly if team starts to lose - that's the end of him. More than anything, he is a confidence guy.

Good unit for NZ/UK condition - if 1-6 can deliver with bat, almost WC winning team in UK.

Actually there were some decent bowlers in the Pakistan cup which Farhan faced like Sohail khan and hafeez

 

[Shinwari Khan]

Dream XI

1. Sahibzada Farhan
2. Khurram Manzoor
3. Usman Salahuddin
4. Hussain Talat
5. Mohammed Rizwan
6. Faheem Ashraf
7. Aamer Yameen
8. Hamed Azam
9. Hassan Khan
10. Sadef Hussain
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

 

[Hasan123]

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Harris
Malik
Sarfraz
Fahim
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Ruman

Amin/Shazbinda
Middle order batsmen that isn't Hafeez
Yamin
Raza
Shinwari

 

[DRsohail]

Not with S Farhan. Only few matches and his heroics are in PAK Cup on 300+ wickets against domestic bowlers minus PAK Internationals (& back ups), under stinky fielding and toxic Captaincy.

Probably No. 11 we'll have to see between Raees, Shinwari or any new kid, so fair enough - till yesterday, Raees was ahead of the 3.

In NZ you should need 3.5 pacers, so Fahim comes, while Mian & Hari are good enough to make it 1.5 spin attack.

Amin replaces Farhan in XI, and I'll pick Saad Ali instead of Azhar in squad. And, I'll pick Raja Hasan in 15 & Ammad Butt in the squad if 16 players are allowed. These 3 are type of players that's needed outside Asia. I hear contrasting views regarding Saad Ali, but the guy is killing it this season and still has 55/85 sort of domestic List A stats - can't be worse than Imam. If his fitness is acceptable, Umar makes the squad as 2nd WK

So, my team (again, I have listed at top) -

1-3: Fakhar, Amin, Babar (Ideally Babar should bat at 2 & Amin at 3, which makes it fantastic 1-11 left right mix, but not a big deal)
4-5: Sarfraz+*, Haris
6-8: Malik, Fahim, Shadab
9-11: Amir, Hasan, Shinwari
----------------------------------------------
Saad Ali, Raees, Raja, Yamin (Umar, if fit)
Ammad Butt/Hammad

However, Fakhar has to improve - he is going south at alarming rate from his CT Final peak. Sarfraz's best role is like Ryder Cup - non playing Captain, which isn't possible so next best is to avail him a spot where he has the best chance to contribute and be a confident leader - he isn't the best with gloves, so if he keeps batting like this, at a certain point of time he'll lose confidence, particularly if team starts to lose - that's the end of him. More than anything, he is a confidence guy.

Good unit for NZ/UK condition - if 1-6 can deliver with bat, almost WC winning team in UK.

diasgrre with amad selection.he does not look to be a good bat and his bowling is too erratic from what i have seen.hammad garred but u have yamin and fahim so cant be accomodated.

 

[MMHS]

diasgrre with amad selection.he does not look to be a good bat and his bowling is too erratic from what i have seen.hammad garred but u have yamin and fahim so cant be accomodated.

It's about the type of player more than personal - if not Amad, and be Hammad, or even Mohsin. In a 15 men team last one doesn't make it. In a 16 men team, if Umar is fit, he comes and Yamin becomes 16th player.

Amad's name came to mind because in recent FC match he probably has taken 2 5for & scored 2 50s in same match.

 

[MMHS]

Actually there were some decent bowlers in the Pakistan cup which Farhan faced like Sohail khan and hafeez

Still, overall bowling quality was too poor for such events and what little I can recall (I didn't see much), he was dropped regularly. Openers, with a habit of playing in air rather than placing it is risky for PP.

 

[Zeshan547]

Not with S Farhan. Only few matches and his heroics are in PAK Cup on 300+ wickets against domestic bowlers minus PAK Internationals (& back ups), under stinky fielding and toxic Captaincy.

Probably No. 11 we'll have to see between Raees, Shinwari or any new kid, so fair enough - till yesterday, Raees was ahead of the 3.

In NZ you should need 3.5 pacers, so Fahim comes, while Mian & Hari are good enough to make it 1.5 spin attack.

Amin replaces Farhan in XI, and I'll pick Saad Ali instead of Azhar in squad. And, I'll pick Raja Hasan in 15 & Ammad Butt in the squad if 16 players are allowed. These 3 are type of players that's needed outside Asia. I hear contrasting views regarding Saad Ali, but the guy is killing it this season and still has 55/85 sort of domestic List A stats - can't be worse than Imam. If his fitness is acceptable, Umar makes the squad as 2nd WK

So, my team (again, I have listed at top) -

1-3: Fakhar, Amin, Babar (Ideally Babar should bat at 2 & Amin at 3, which makes it fantastic 1-11 left right mix, but not a big deal)
4-5: Sarfraz+*, Haris
6-8: Malik, Fahim, Shadab
9-11: Amir, Hasan, Shinwari
----------------------------------------------
Saad Ali, Raees, Raja, Yamin (Umar, if fit)
Ammad Butt/Hammad

However, Fakhar has to improve - he is going south at alarming rate from his CT Final peak. Sarfraz's best role is like Ryder Cup - non playing Captain, which isn't possible so next best is to avail him a spot where he has the best chance to contribute and be a confident leader - he isn't the best with gloves, so if he keeps batting like this, at a certain point of time he'll lose confidence, particularly if team starts to lose - that's the end of him. More than anything, he is a confidence guy.

Good unit for NZ/UK condition - if 1-6 can deliver with bat, almost WC winning team in UK.

Gotta agree with most of your points, but i was vouching for farhan over amin for two reasons, 1st it will give us left right combo with fakhar, secondly amin have racked up good numbers off late but i think he lacks confidence to be good enough at top level and another point can also be made that on those 50 m kiwi grounds playing aerial shots in PP may not be the worst option and miss hits can go for sixes, and i think if we have standard pitches which we have seen off late in NZ, then par score will be 350, which means atlest 70 to 80 runs is must in PP, fakhar alone cant make it every time in today slash band ODI which are longer version of t20 both openers need to attack,

if finch can make a career with his Hackish technique so can Farhan, it can be our version of Warner, Finch, may be inferior one but it can defo work on these flat roads which are norm in ODIs all over the world, and even one of them can last till end of PP atlest 70 runs are guaranteed in pp, then our accumulators brigade can tuk tuk till 40th at 5 rpo, means 220 for 4 after 40th kind of score then our mediocre finishers can atleast stretch that to 300, which with our bowling will be enough 8 out of 10 times even on flatest of roads.

And sarf has to bat 4, but don't who will make this happen can't see he will do it on his own nor mickey is pushing him because team is winning may be and current combo is working, but we all know its ticking bomb, i guess in typical Pak fashion it may take a series thumping due to batting failures which will make this move happen.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Sahibzada should be in the squad at least. Need to replace Junaid with another young bowler.

 

[Shinwari Khan]

Sahibzada should be in the squad at least. Need to replace Junaid with another young bowler.

Shinwari is the replacement for JK

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Shinwari is the replacement for JK

5th seamer.

 

[Shinwari Khan]

5th seamer.

1. Mohammed Amir
2. Hasan Ali
3. Usman Khan Shinwari
4. Faheem Ashraf
5. Aamer Yamin

 

[Chief Destroyer]

1. Mohammed Amir
2. Hasan Ali
3. Usman Khan Shinwari
4. Faheem Ashraf
5. Aamer Yamin

Talking about genuine bowlers, not all-rounders.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Sarfraz
Malik
Hafeez
Faheem
Shadab
Hasan
Rumman
Amir

Junaid
Haris
Shinwari
Azhar

 

[mumtaz]

I think the squad picks itself. Basically the same squad we had for the SL series with Azhar replacing Shehzad and Amir added to the squad. It would be a 16 member squad but I think we need an extra pacer in NZ anyway.

 

[shaaik]

1. Fakhar
2. Imam
3. Babar
4. Hafeez/Haris
5. Malik
6. Sarfi
7. Faheem/Imad
8. Shabad
9. Hassan
10. Aamir
11. Rumaan/Junaid/Shinwari.

 

[Seamer]

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Malik
6. Sarfaraz
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Rumman Raees

12. Usman Shenwari
13. Imad Wasim
14. Hafeez
15. Azhar Ali

 

[hadi123]

I would name a 17 man squad as there are 5 ODI's and New Zealand is a long way away from Pakistan so won't be a problem having a big squad.

1) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK)
2) Azhar Ali - drop Shehzad, even if he does good in the T20s v Sri Lanka then just keep AS in T20s
3) Babar Azam
4) Faheem Ashraf
5) Fakhar Zaman
6) Haris Sohail
7) Hasan Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Imam-ul-Haq
10) Junaid Khan
11) Mohammad Amir - obviously missed the SL series due to injuries but will come back in the squad
12) Mohammad Hafeez - even if he is banned from bowling give him this series as a batsman
13) Rumman Raees
14) Saad Ali - deserves an ODI call up and as in NZ where it is harder than UAE we may need an extra batsman in the squad
15) Shadab Khan
16) Shoaib Malik
17) Usman Khan

Really want Aamer Yamin there but no room for him. He is in the T20 squad and seems likely he will be in next test squad but can't find anywhere for him in 50 overs even though he deserves to be selected.

This should be the 11

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Azhar Ali - harsh to drop Imam but Azhar is the more senior player
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail - better than Hafeez
5) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK) - he has to bat higher up the order, wasted down low
6) Shoaib Malik - he's a better finisher
7) Shadab Khan - better than Imad without a doubt, plus Haris Sohail can do left arm spin anyway
8) Faheem Ashraf - in Asia, Imad Wasim is normally the all rounder that plays but outside it should be Ashraf
9) Mohammad Amir - deserves to come back in the starting 11 as his last ODI was the CT final but he has to perform as Raees and JK would be unlucky as they are very handy as well
10) Hasan Ali
11) Usman Khan - amazing spell by him in the 5th ODI

 

[ManFan]

I would name a 17 man squad as there are 5 ODI's and New Zealand is a long way away from Pakistan so won't be a problem having a big squad.

1) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK)
2) Azhar Ali - drop Shehzad, even if he does good in the T20s v Sri Lanka then just keep AS in T20s
3) Babar Azam
4) Faheem Ashraf
5) Fakhar Zaman
6) Haris Sohail
7) Hasan Ali
8) Imad Wasim
9) Imam-ul-Haq
10) Junaid Khan
11) Mohammad Amir - obviously missed the SL series due to injuries but will come back in the squad
12) Mohammad Hafeez - even if he is banned from bowling give him this series as a batsman
13) Rumman Raees
14) Saad Ali - deserves an ODI call up and as in NZ where it is harder than UAE we may need an extra batsman in the squad
15) Shadab Khan
16) Shoaib Malik
17) Usman Khan

Really want Aamer Yamin there but no room for him. He is in the T20 squad and seems likely he will be in next test squad but can't find anywhere for him in 50 overs even though he deserves to be selected.

This should be the 11

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Azhar Ali - harsh to drop Imam but Azhar is the more senior player
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail - better than Hafeez
5) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK) - he has to bat higher up the order, wasted down low
6) Shoaib Malik - he's a better finisher
7) Shadab Khan - better than Imad without a doubt, plus Haris Sohail can do left arm spin anyway
8) Faheem Ashraf - in Asia, Imad Wasim is normally the all rounder that plays but outside it should be Ashraf
9) Mohammad Amir - deserves to come back in the starting 11 as his last ODI was the CT final but he has to perform as Raees and JK would be unlucky as they are very handy as well
10) Hasan Ali
11) Usman Khan - amazing spell by him in the 5th ODI

Imam won't be dropped and Haris won't sit out for Hafeez just yet because last time we were here, Hafeez did really well with the bat.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

This should be the 11

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Azhar Ali - harsh to drop Imam but Azhar is the more senior player
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail - better than Hafeez
5) Sarfaraz Ahmed (C) (WK) - he has to bat higher up the order, wasted down low
6) Shoaib Malik - he's a better finisher
7) Shadab Khan - better than Imad without a doubt, plus Haris Sohail can do left arm spin anyway
8) Faheem Ashraf - in Asia, Imad Wasim is normally the all rounder that plays but outside it should be Ashraf
9) Mohammad Amir - deserves to come back in the starting 11 as his last ODI was the CT final but he has to perform as Raees and JK would be unlucky as they are very handy as well
10) Hasan Ali
11) Usman Khan - amazing spell by him in the 5th ODI

I would play this team too.. This team has the ability to win 5-0 against Kiwis..

 

[Markhor]

They're not going to change a winning squad. Nor should anyone be asking for major changes as we've had way too much chopping and changing in ODI cricket for over 15 years.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Malik
6. Sarfaraz
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Rumman Raees

12. Usman Shenwari
13. Imad Wasim
14. Hafeez
15. Azhar Ali

Shinwari after his recent heroics should keep his place ahead of Raees, but that's the lineup I'd go for too.

Since we're outside Asia, we're probably better off going with 4 pacers and 2 spinners. Shadab could be potent as the NZ batsmen have never played him before.

 

[hadi123]

Imam won't be dropped and Haris won't sit out for Hafeez just yet because last time we were here, Hafeez did really well with the bat.

I wouldn't drop Imam from the squad, but you really think a senior player like Azhar Ali will sit on the bench?

 

[babajee]

I would play this team too.. This team has the ability to win 5-0 against Kiwis..

Faheem at 7 instead of Shadab?

 

[FreePalestine]

Preferred Starting XI for Pak - 3 options

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Sarfraz
7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Imad
10. Hasan
11. Amir

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Haris
7. Sarfraz
8. Shadab
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Raees / Shinwari / Junaid

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Haris
7. Sarfraz
8. Shadab
9. Faheem
10. Hasan
11. Amir

 

[another drop catch]

Ahmed shehzad/Fakhar zaman
Imam ul haq
Babar azam
umar amin/Harris Sohail
shoaib malik
sarfraz ahmed (wk+c)
faheem ashraf/Aamer yamin
shadab khan
Hassan ali
Mohd Aamer
Junaid khan

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Faheem at 7 instead of Shadab?

Faheem at 8

 

[babajee]

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Sarfraz
7. Shadab
8. Faheem
9. Imad
10. Hasan
11. Amir

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Haris
7. Sarfraz
8. Shadab
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Raees / Shinwari / Junaid

1. Zaman
2. Imam / Azhar
3. Azam
4. Hafeez
5. Malik
6. Haris
7. Sarfraz
8. Shadab
9. Faheem
10. Hasan
11. Amir

All bakwaas teams.

 

[FreePalestine]

All bakwaas teams.

Yeah, you are right. just experimenting with a flexible team. Shouldn't take our batting for granted though, an extra bat might come in handy down the line... especially if Hafeez plays in the top six.

In NZ I like four seamers maybe.

 

[Rayyman]

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfraz*+
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Junaid
---------------
Nawaz
Aslam
Usman
Rizwan+
Rumman

I'll still go with this, but hope nobody gets injured between that time.

 

[ManFan]

Amin
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Malik
Fahim
Sarfraz
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Shinwari
12th Man: JK

 

[Abdulm123]

1.Azhar
2.Fakhar
3.Babar
4.Haris
5.Malik
6.Sarfraz
7.Fahim
8.Shadab
9.Amir
10.Hasan
11.Shinwari
Reserves
12.Aamer Yamin
13.Rumman Raees
14.Junaid Khan
15.Imam Ul Haq
16. Raza Hasan

 

[Hermoine Green]

Drop Imam, Shehzad, Imad and may be Hafeez also.
Dont know why people are crying for Raza Hassan when you can select better spinners than him.

 

[Ahson8]

Squad picks itself really:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Azhar Ali
3) Babar Azam
4) Mohammad Hafeez
5) Shoaib Malik
6) Sarfraz Ahmed (c & wk)
7) Fahim Ashraf
8) Shadab Khan
9) Hasan Ali
10) Mohammad Amir
11) Usman Shinwari


12) Haris Sohail
13) Imam Ul Haq
14) Junaid Khan
15) Rumman Raees
16) Imad Wasim

I think they should take one of Mohammad Hasan or Mohammad Rizwan as a back up WK just incase Sarfraz gets injured and / or suspended due to a poor over-rate

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Shocks so many people still have Professor in their squads

Stockholm syndrome has well and truly taken hold of the fan base

 

[Hedz]

A few months ago Hafeez would have been the first player out of my squad, but tbf to him he has really picked up his performances. If he passes his bowling test I would definitely keep him in the squad, but if he doesn’t he shouldn’t be selected.

My squad

Fakhar Zaman
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Sarfraz Ahmed
Mohammad Hafeez/ Haris Sohail (If Hafeez bowling banned, Haris comes in)
Shoaib Malik
Fahim Ashraf
Shadab Khan
Hassan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Usman Shinwari

Subs

Imam Ul Haq
Junaid Khan
Rumman Raees
Aamer Yamin
Haris Sohail

If we win the series and there are games remaining we should test our bench, by playing Imam for Azhar Ali, Aamer Yamin for Fahim Ashraf, Rumman/Junaid for Amir/Hassan and if Haris Sohail isn’t playing he should come in for Hafeez.
Ideally, any players who perform extremely badly would be dropped and replaced by top performers in the PSL, that follows this series

 

[Seamer]

This would be my 16 member odi squad for New Zealand:

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Malik
6. Sarfaraz
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Shadab Khan
9. Hassan Ali
10. Amir
11. Usman Shinwari

12. Imam ul Haq
13. Imad Wasim
14. Aamer Yamin
15. Rumman Raees
16. Junaid Khan