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It looks like it’ll take at least 4-5 years before PCB can host another (small) team

What should be their second home ?

I’d say England (if they can afford it) or Sri Lanka

UAE if they want to win tests
 
Sigh ..is there even a point to bilaterals anymore.

Does Any numbers person know the financial loss of just not continuing to be part of this international setup and going psl only.

Doesn't seem like money flows down to our grass roots or players anyways.
 
Leeds, Edgebaston, Old Trafford

PCB should look to set up their home in England going forward. Host 7-8 Tests during the English summer, play away cricket for the rest
 
Stop playing International cricket.

PCB can make money through PSL alone.

I wouldn’t mind having a 10 month PSL season like the football leagues.
 
Pakistan, there is nothing concrete to take any other decision. Cant afford to opt for any place in else. PSL will again see quite a few international players coming and I am expecting other teams to tour as well. Just because 2-3 teams have issues you don’t change your venues.
 
Just hold your horses and calm down! We as Pakistani fans want to know more about this ‘security threat’ actually and if it fact and a REAL threat or just **!!
 
Pakistan and it should only be Pakistan.

If other teams refuse to tour, Pakistan should reciprocate
 
If this NZ thing is an attempt to punish Pakistan for 'supporting' Taliban and for our refusal to allow US bases on our soil (will be confirmed if Eng cancels as well) then IK will have a decision to make. Either carry on that neutral venue farce which will go on for ages or take a firm stance now which will have consequences in the short term. I think he will choose later.
 
Afghanistan, we did meddle in their businesss. We should trust the taliban govt to provide us security

Things have been pretty much the same in Pakistan since Taliban takeover in Afg. Why is everyone expecting bad stuff to start happening all of a sudden in Pak?
 
Things have been pretty much the same in Pakistan since Taliban takeover in Afg. Why is everyone expecting bad stuff to start happening all of a sudden in Pak?

We are negotiating ttp. Govt is even trying to forgoibe the ttp for their past crimes if they follow the constitution
 
Where does Pakistan go from here?

I know there are going to be plenty of posts related to this topic and the time is an emotional one for most
Pakistanis.

The real question remains , where does Pakistan go from here?

It will be the question of the week or perhaps even the month.

NZ will probably be back home safely in the next 24 hours, unfazed by the events that have unfolded (whether rightly or wrongly) and will be sitting in the comfort of their families. Probably, the would feel they
avoided death or deep injury had they been sitting in Pakistan playing a game of cricket. I don't blame them. Stories have more power than actual events and if the PM of a country is telling a story about being in danger,
no rightful soul will continue to play cricket.

Indian government would probably be gloating at the financial losses incurred to Pakistan by the last minute
withdrawal of the NZ team. Their IPL is going well and they are financially in a position to dictate terms
to all the cricket boards.

The fans will feel the emotional upheaval of missing a few days of cricket and then continue with their lives.

So who lost?

If there is one thing I have learned over many years in and out of Pakistan is that perception is all that matters.The world moves on perception. If the same incident had happened in reverse, possibility, we would have continued the tour, would have got governmental assurances and we would have been more than happy to oblige and fulfill our obligations.

However, for Pakistan the perception is very negative. For those, who have never visited here, mostly its about reports and alerts and threats. For them, even a small lapse is real security threat (I hardly blame them). I was in Hartford once after 6 pm and every person I saw in the shadow looked like carrying a knife. Needless to say, I drove out of the city and never returned. Is Hartford unsafe? Perhaps. But the perception is even worse. And even I, being a brave warrior, managed to evade the city's heart at the thought of being attacked.

For NZ, England and Australia, the perception of Pakistan was always a safe country, bordering its arch rival India on one side and the unstable Afghanistan on the other. They were always gonna fly at the first hint of beforeyoucansaysomethinghappened incidents.

It took 15 years of untroubled waters to get a country's 2nd reserves to visit our nation and to try to hold a cricket
match.

Yet it took only 15 seconds to call it off at the mere possibility of something could go wrong.

You cant blame the players here.

However, you cant help but be peeved that NZ cricket shafted us right before the morning of the match.

The sad situation is that we don't have the PR to keep NZ in the country. We have no say, no team that can convince NZ that the ground situation is much better than their intelligence. We don't have a good standing or media relations team. In my opinion, PM should have done everything in his power to stop NZ from leaving and try to forge some sort of communication or trust.

To build some sort of plank to walk on.

Not because we desperately need NZ to play on this tour.

But we needed this tour, to bring cricket back

And now its gone.

The years of trust we had built is in doldrums.

Will any team tour again in the near future? Probably not.

Its Pakistan, that lost everything tonight.
 
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Big blow for Pakistan definitely in terms of PR.

But, teams should still tour Pakistan. There is no reason not to.

Also, PCB should be compensated for this. Kiwis wasted everyone's time and resources.
 
Back to 2009. Don't think aus, eng and nz will tour anytime soon. Never felt such down and out recently. Jus Shocked
 
They could have aent empty buses to the ground just to test the theory of nz security experts.


Anyways, the reason why we had cricket back in pakistan was because of the 2017 champions trophy. When we won, cricketing world decided that it was time to pay attention to Pakistan and help bring back cricket. Thus we had different world 11 and other teams coming in.

The world t20 is coming, it makes it really important for Pakistan to win it. If they win, than only than does the crixketing world takes us serious and care for us.

We lose than we get ignored.

Lets see what england says in the next two days, whether they would be coming in or not.

But if england does come and the series happens peacefully, our relations with new zealand cricket would be over.
 
I know there are going to be plenty of posts related to this topic and the time is an emotional one for most
Pakistanis.

The real question remains , where does Pakistan go from here?

It will be the question of the week or perhaps even the month.

NZ will probably be back home safely in the next 24 hours, unfazed by the events that have unfolded (whether rightly or wrongly) and will be sitting in the comfort of their families. Probably, the would feel they
avoided death or deep injury had they been sitting in Pakistan playing a game of cricket. I don't blame them. Stories have more power than actual events and if the PM of a country is telling a story about being in danger,
no rightful soul will continue to play cricket.

Indian government would probably be gloating at the financial losses incurred to Pakistan by the last minute
withdrawal of the NZ team. Their IPL is going well and they are financially in a position to dictate terms
to all the cricket boards.

The fans will feel the emotional upheaval of missing a few days of cricket and then continue with their lives.

So who lost?

If there is one thing I have learned over many years in and out of Pakistan is that perception is all that matters.The world moves on perception. If the same incident had happened in reverse, possibility, we would have continued the tour, would have got governmental assurances and we would have been more than happy to oblige and fulfill our obligations.

However, for Pakistan the perception is very negative. For those, who have never visited here, mostly its about reports and alerts and threats. For them, even a small lapse is real security threat (I hardly blame them). I was in Hartford once after 6 pm and every person I saw in the shadow looked like carrying a knife. Needless to say, I drove out of the city and never returned. Is Hartford unsafe? Perhaps. But the perception is even worse. And even I, being a brave warrior, managed to evade the city's heart at the thought of being attacked.

For NZ, England and Australia, the perception of Pakistan was always a safe country, bordering its arch rival India on one side and the unstable Afghanistan on the other. They were always gonna fly at the first hint of beforeyoucansaysomethinghappened incidents.

It took 15 years of untroubled waters to get a country's 2nd reserves to visit our nation and to try to hold a cricket
match.

Yet it took only 15 seconds to call it off at the mere possibility of something could go wrong.

You cant blame the players here.

However, you cant help but be peeved that NZ cricket shafted us right before the morning of the match.

The sad situation is that we don't have the PR to keep NZ in the country. We have no say, no team that can convince NZ that the ground situation is much better than their intelligence. We don't have a good standing or media relations team. In my opinion, PM should have done everything in his power to stop NZ from leaving and try to forge some sort of communication or trust.

To build some sort of plank to walk on.

Not because we desperately need NZ to play on this tour.

But we needed this tour, to bring cricket back

And now its gone.

The years of trust we had built is in doldrums.

Will any team tour again in the near future? Probably not.

Its Pakistan, that lost everything tonight.

I have nothing to add except say this is a great post.

Sorry for your loss mate.
 
Nothing will happen, specially not for years. PCB must need to continue working on their mindset that they used for past few years.
 
We will be back to playing in the UAE. All this talk of playing in Sri Lanka and England is fantasy talk. These countries don’t benefit from Pakistan playing in their country.
 
Just hold your horses and calm down! We as Pakistani fans want to know more about this ‘security threat’ actually and if it fact and a REAL threat or just **!!

Why would NZ come all the way to Pakistan and just back out minutes before 1st ODI, if it is all just a ploy to avoid playing in Pak?

Every time playing the victim card is cringe.

What PCB, Pak government should be seeking from NZ is, why they were not kept in the loop. This unilateral action from NZ is what is an issue here. If they had shared their concerns from the get-go and shared intel, they then reserved the right to quit unliterally but at least PCB, Pak government would know what's happening behind the scenes.
 
Let's hope sense prevail and England do decide to play in Pakistan. You can not rule out or discount Pakistan in cricket as this would not only deprive cricket lovers around the world of an exciting and talented nation, it would also be a huge loss to loose 200 million peoples interest in the sport, which is where I feel this could lead to. ICC must look into this action by NZ and find out why intelligent was not shared.
 
They could have aent empty buses to the ground just to test the theory of nz security experts.


Anyways, the reason why we had cricket back in pakistan was because of the 2017 champions trophy. When we won, cricketing world decided that it was time to pay attention to Pakistan and help bring back cricket. Thus we had different world 11 and other teams coming in.

The world t20 is coming, it makes it really important for Pakistan to win it. If they win, than only than does the crixketing world takes us serious and care for us.

We lose than we get ignored.

Lets see what england says in the next two days, whether they would be coming in or not.

But if england does come and the series happens peacefully, our relations with new zealand cricket would be over.

What about the driver?
 
Games should only happen in Pakistan.Pakistan doesn't gain anything playing in UAE !
 
Karachi or Lahore, Pakistan. These should be the venue's for now for Intl. cricket.

Try other stadiums for PSL but not for Intl. cricket yet.
 
They should try Dehradun here.

Beautiful city, a world class cricket stadium with a brilliant sporting wicket and one that has already been used as a base by the Afghan team. Players can even go camping across the beautiful hills of Uttarakhand. :)
 
I think the PCB must take strict, decisive action against New Zealand for what they have caused.

Firstly, it begins by disproving any intelligence that the New Zealand board had received, and calling them out for their indecency.

I don't think Pakistan will go back to isolation, rather, I think it will take another season of the PSL before a team is ready to tour.

People mentioning this talk of the dark days approaching, that's not going to happen. England might cancel but out of abruptness because of the stupidity of NZC who couldn't have trust in our security.

Hopefully Pakistan cricket steers itself out of this mess, but we need to start by removing this talk of a security threat. Use all the evidence we have, and completely expose this idiocy from the NZC.

The real danger is if the security threat was real, that's when we would have a problem.

I personally don't think it is anything but a hoax, but let's see.
 
Too early to be talking about this. I dont think Pak should move its homebase. Stick to your guns and other nations will eventually come around. But be prepared for short-term financial losses.
 
In no circumstances should PCB move cricket out of Pakistan, unless the security situation gets drastically worse ala 2009-2014.
 
But which foreign players will be available for 10 months?

SA during apartheid era embargo built a solid cricket structure and local tournaments that were able to give them Donald, Kirstens, Mcmillans, jontys the day they returned back to ICC tournaments . Few months after their return to ICC games they nearly won the world cup 1992 if it was not for DL rain system crashing their march to the cup.


Point is to make a robust system and world class players.... You don't need foreign players all 10 months... you need a structure where players can grow and improve
 
Pakistan and it should only be Pakistan.

If other teams refuse to tour, Pakistan should reciprocate

This No playing in neutral territories anymore

It should be pakistan only Those thst dont tour boycott them too
 
Absolutely none.

Either they come or don't. We are losing money anyway so why bother. Also the OP is a troll, joined PP as a Pakistani pretending to be Indian till he was outed.
 
Rearrange a world stars to come and play for the matches not taking place... or up coming pak players against the main team.

NZ have every right not to play but they should have not left it till the last moment.

PCB forget the set back and move on..... any other team would likely have done the same.....
 
England would be a good base but the UK media and pak team themselves have let everyone down.
PCB need to think of new way to make money......
 
Pakistan host teams in pakistan. if teams want to cry off and not tour so be it. in those cases ICC should just award points to pakistan.
 
i can give some expensive proposal, build one or two stadiums in Island near Karachi , problem solved ......
 
Any proposal to play on a neutral venue should come with a PCB demand for the ICC to bear expenses or the touring country.
 
I think the PCB must take strict, decisive action against New Zealand for what they have caused.

Firstly, it begins by disproving any intelligence that the New Zealand board had received, and calling them out for their indecency.

I don't think Pakistan will go back to isolation, rather, I think it will take another season of the PSL before a team is ready to tour.

People mentioning this talk of the dark days approaching, that's not going to happen. England might cancel but out of abruptness because of the stupidity of NZC who couldn't have trust in our security.

Hopefully Pakistan cricket steers itself out of this mess, but we need to start by removing this talk of a security threat. Use all the evidence we have, and completely expose this idiocy from the NZC.

The real danger is if the security threat was real, that's when we would have a problem.

I personally don't think it is anything but a hoax, but let's see.

Right now the fallout should not extend to a decade of obscurity. Should merely be a season or two of PSL (assuming fallout from AFG doesn’t worsen). Anything more will be a failure on the part of the govt.

But as the poster above said, it is about perception. I commented the same on another thread: image / reputation is a lagging indicator of whatever is happening on the ground.
 
Build a hotel and cricket ground next to some airport

Leave no excuse of risk of threat when "leaving hotel".
You land here. You go to hotel. You go to ground and play cricket. Allow limited crowd from separate parking and entrance if visiting team ok. If not then no crowd even.
Do this instead of playing in uae or anywhere else for some of these teams in future.

Rest of teams like rsa sl Zim wi etc we can host in regular grounds but ideally when can plan on lodging facility within national stadium and Gaddafi stadium also long term.
 
This will also eliminate impact on traffic and inconvenience to locals even for the khi and lahore setups long term if hotel is within premises
 
Absolutely not. Why let the rest of our grounds go to waste. Why do this when our security is better than when England last time visited us?

Enough of being insulted again and again, I could understand the apprehension in 2016. Not now.
 
Absolutely not. Why let the rest of our grounds go to waste. Why do this when our security is better than when England last time visited us?

Enough of being insulted again and again, I could understand the apprehension in 2016. Not now.
I was at the oval for Jarvo pitch invasion mk3 - security checkpoints were a joke. People were carrying bags in without full checks. Compare this with the 4000 security personnel we had deployed in Pindi, the miles of checkpoints and searches, the closure of roads. You will not find a more secure environment for cricket.
 
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Pakistan host teams in pakistan. if teams want to cry off and not tour so be it. in those cases ICC should just award points to pakistan.

But ICC don’t want to do this. They don’t want to bind anyone to Pakistan because they are too scared to be sued if even there is a slight breach of security
 
Pakistan should host in Pakistan only.
One NZ pull out over fictional evidence doesn’t mean other countries are stupid enough not to send their team. We may not have Australia NZ come in, but I see other countries touring.

It is NZ’s loss at the moment.
 
Pakistan should host in Pakistan only.
One NZ pull out over fictional evidence doesn’t mean other countries are stupid enough not to send their team. We may not have Australia NZ come in, but I see other countries touring.

It is NZ’s loss at the moment.

That's the spirit.
It is only NZ who have cancelled. Many teams have come before and many others will follow.
Chin up.
 
Sri Lanka or Bangladesh

Can't be Bangladesh for logistical reasons. BCB/BD seems to be the worst or laziest when it comes to COVID. All other countries including Zimbabwe have restarted domestic First class cricket but BCB has no plan whatsoever. And then they will blame the players for being poor in Tests.

BD only seems to be able to host teams at a single venue...maximum two right now (Dhaka and Chittagong). So pitches would be overused if another team played regular cricket there.

If BD could rotate between 4 venues (Dhaka, Chittagong, Sylhet, and Khulna or Fatullah) then it might be possible. But that seems to be a non-option for BCB.
 
PCB should host cricket only at their home....it's as safe as any other cricketing nation currently.

If some teams are too scared, then they should bear the costs of neutral venue.
 
PCB should host cricket only at their home....it's as safe as any other cricketing nation currently.

If some teams are too scared, then they should bear the costs of neutral venue.

This terms "if some teams are too scared" will only make them antagonists
 
ICC need to tell NZ to show evidence of threat or ban NZ for six months from all International cricket.
 
I know there are going to be plenty of posts related to this topic and the time is an emotional one for most
Pakistanis.

The real question remains , where does Pakistan go from here?

It will be the question of the week or perhaps even the month.

NZ will probably be back home safely in the next 24 hours, unfazed by the events that have unfolded (whether rightly or wrongly) and will be sitting in the comfort of their families. Probably, the would feel they
avoided death or deep injury had they been sitting in Pakistan playing a game of cricket. I don't blame them. Stories have more power than actual events and if the PM of a country is telling a story about being in danger,
no rightful soul will continue to play cricket.

Indian government would probably be gloating at the financial losses incurred to Pakistan by the last minute
withdrawal of the NZ team. Their IPL is going well and they are financially in a position to dictate terms
to all the cricket boards.

The fans will feel the emotional upheaval of missing a few days of cricket and then continue with their lives.

So who lost?

If there is one thing I have learned over many years in and out of Pakistan is that perception is all that matters.The world moves on perception. If the same incident had happened in reverse, possibility, we would have continued the tour, would have got governmental assurances and we would have been more than happy to oblige and fulfill our obligations.

However, for Pakistan the perception is very negative. For those, who have never visited here, mostly its about reports and alerts and threats. For them, even a small lapse is real security threat (I hardly blame them). I was in Hartford once after 6 pm and every person I saw in the shadow looked like carrying a knife. Needless to say, I drove out of the city and never returned. Is Hartford unsafe? Perhaps. But the perception is even worse. And even I, being a brave warrior, managed to evade the city's heart at the thought of being attacked.

For NZ, England and Australia, the perception of Pakistan was always a safe country, bordering its arch rival India on one side and the unstable Afghanistan on the other. They were always gonna fly at the first hint of beforeyoucansaysomethinghappened incidents.

It took 15 years of untroubled waters to get a country's 2nd reserves to visit our nation and to try to hold a cricket
match.

Yet it took only 15 seconds to call it off at the mere possibility of something could go wrong.

You cant blame the players here.

However, you cant help but be peeved that NZ cricket shafted us right before the morning of the match.

The sad situation is that we don't have the PR to keep NZ in the country. We have no say, no team that can convince NZ that the ground situation is much better than their intelligence. We don't have a good standing or media relations team. In my opinion, PM should have done everything in his power to stop NZ from leaving and try to forge some sort of communication or trust.

To build some sort of plank to walk on.

Not because we desperately need NZ to play on this tour.

But we needed this tour, to bring cricket back

And now its gone.

The years of trust we had built is in doldrums.

Will any team tour again in the near future? Probably not.

Its Pakistan, that lost everything tonight.

But you didn’t answer your own question.
“”Where do we go from here?”
 
Durban, South Africa.

Cheap, you can play year-round, and it would improve the team's skills for SENA tours.
 
Durban, South Africa.

Cheap, you can play year-round, and it would improve the team's skills for SENA tours.

Or may be establish cricketing ties with Nepal.
Rehab and update their major stadium if any, and play some games there.

India will definitely try to sabotage the events and Nepal will make a note of that, to eventually turn against India. That will be nice for regional politics too.
 
Or may be establish cricketing ties with Nepal.
Rehab and update their major stadium if any, and play some games there.

India will definitely try to sabotage the events and Nepal will make a note of that, to eventually turn against India. That will be nice for regional politics too.

Well, Nepal don't have a stadium where you can host test matches. Their board is more corrupt than any other cricket board neither PCB are capable of building one such stadium in another country, you are overestimating them.

So unfortunately, you won't be able to achieve what you want.
 
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Well, Nepal don't have a stadium where you can host test matches. Their board is more corrupt than any other cricket board neither PCB are capable of building one such stadium in another country, you are overestimating them.

So unfortunately, you won't be able to achieve what you want.

PCB can build couple of stadiums with attached 5* hotels in Nepal with help of Pakistan and Chinese governments.

Boom! Solved.

Another strategic victory!
 
Pakistan should go back to UAE as neutral venue although Pakistan fans don't agree.

1. Pakistan has a greater chance of full house compared to any other venue. In turn bringing in revenue to board.
2. Pakistan had most success in winning games and reached #1 briefly because of favourable and home like conditions of uae. This increases confidence of players.
3. Uae gives best chance to beat SENA nations and comprehensive wins might prompt these nations to host more games.
4. PSL in uae will bring even those international players who were not willing to tour earlier.
5. Proximity to Pakistan so easy to rotate players.
6. May be india might consider playing them in uae

I understand there is an element of logistics and expenses to take care, but it's there for any neutral venue.
 
It should be played in Azad Kashmir or other areas that are not Lahore/Karachi/Islamabad.

However home games can only be played in Pakistan.
 
We should all await to hear outcome of England tour.

If England pull out then we can be stubborn and refuse to play abroad. It will not harm the rest of the world but only us I’m afraid.
 
Well, Nepal don't have a stadium where you can host test matches. Their board is more corrupt than any other cricket board neither PCB are capable of building one such stadium in another country, you are overestimating them.

So unfortunately, you won't be able to achieve what you want.

I think Pokhara Cricket ground and Gautam Buddha Stadiums can be updated to host T20's and ODI's

Nepalis in general, already hate Modi and the current RSS/BJP govt (I mean, which Indian neighbor doesn't?) so there is a good chance that they will form a cricket partnership with Pakistan.
 
Play us at home or dont come should be the mantra. We got to toe this tough line from now and things will eventually fall through. It will be hard in the start, but world cricket cannot ignore Pakistan.
 
I think Pokhara Cricket ground and Gautam Buddha Stadiums can be updated to host T20's and ODI's

Nepalis in general, already hate Modi and the current RSS/BJP govt (I mean, which Indian neighbor doesn't?) so there is a good chance that they will form a cricket partnership with Pakistan.

The Pro china PM of nepal is gone. With him out the rest of the political parties are again on the Indian side. Not to forget that India provided Nepal with millions of doses of vaccine.

The Madhesi people of Nepal, thata around 40 percent of Nepalese population are staunchly supportive of India.
 
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