What went wrong here?

[Rana]

Meet the people we proudly call family. #Pakistan #Squad #WeHaveWeWill #CWC19 pic.twitter.com/kvXTluRQ13

— Babar Azam (@babarazam258) June 9, 2019

I know the answer. Let you guys decide the rest. This was actually a beautiful team, a beautiful time in Pakistan cricket.

 

[Savak]

Meet the people we proudly call family. #Pakistan #Squad #WeHaveWeWill #CWC19 pic.twitter.com/kvXTluRQ13

— Babar Azam (@babarazam258) June 9, 2019

I know the answer. Let you guys decide the rest. This was actually a beautiful team, a beautiful time in Pakistan cricket.

These players were over rated and over hyped on the basis of a few performances early on in their careers. They didn't improve, evolve and work hard to take their games to the next level. That's all there is to it.

 

[Rana]

These players were over rated and over hyped on the basis of a few performances early on in their careers. They didn't improve, evolve and work hard to take their games to the next level. That's all there is to it.

They beat England, New Zealand, South Africa, Afghanistan and Bangladesh in the 2019 World Cup in England


4 years later, they only beat Netherlands, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and NZ (DLS) in Asian conditions. They regressed massively. Something definitely went wrong.

 

[shamaan]

They beat England, New Zealand, South Africa, Afghanistan and Bangladesh in the 2019 World Cup in England


4 years later, they only beat Netherlands, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and NZ (DLS) in Asian conditions. They regressed massively. Something definitely went wrong.

It all comes down to mentality.

 

[Major]

The 2021 India game did us more harm than good.

Just because Shaheen got u a wicket in opening spell, they decided that in every game Shaheen would open, even if the pitch supported spinners. So Imad got under utilized.

Than Babar's captaincy in the 2021semi final was flawed, but the Babar bandwagon was soo strong and Ramiz was such a crazy fan boy that everyone was going crazy as if Babar was the next Imran. I called it than that he sucks as a captain.

Than Shadab Khan was never fixed. They kept playing and calling him back.

Chairmans switched, PSL was made the standard for captaincy. Shaheen was made captain out of no where, he sucked and than the Babar-Shaheen fiasco took place. Meanwhile there is no proper coach to guide and build a team culture.

4 years later, we are making the same mistake. Hasan Ali is back after 1 good psl season. THere is no more grinding of 3-4 years before making combacks. Shadab Khan is also back.

 

[Major]

Another problem here is that, alot of these guys didnt bother to improve.

Rizwan and Babar had a great 2021. But than Rizwan never challenged himself to improve his strike rate or batting. Topping an year or having one release shot doenst mean you can just survive quietly. Now in this part having a proper coach would had helped who would had challenged the players with their spots. For example, matches against weaker sides being given to the bench to score runs and show their talent. A good exampe being Hasan Nawaz, who has sent shivers to these guys.

Same thing for Babar aswell.

 

[emranabbas]

Meet the people we proudly call family. #Pakistan #Squad #WeHaveWeWill #CWC19 pic.twitter.com/kvXTluRQ13

— Babar Azam (@babarazam258) June 9, 2019

I know the answer. Let you guys decide the rest. This was actually a beautiful team, a beautiful time in Pakistan cricket.

One man who kept the team going....

 

[Kianig89]

The right answer is , Rizwan entered the team after that

 

[Mamoon]

What do you mean what went wrong? What was right at the time?

I love how the usual clowns like to change the narrative and rewrite history by pretending that Pakistan were a formidable team until Sarfaraz got sacked in 2019, but it will not happen on my watch.

Pakistan was a joke between 2018-19 and Sarfaraz was rightfully axed. It was the best decision Misbah made during his coaching tenure.

 

[Ball Blazer]

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The 2021 India game did us more harm than good.

Just because Shaheen got u a wicket in opening spell, they decided that in every game Shaheen would open, even if the pitch supported spinners. So Imad got under utilized.

Than Babar's captaincy in the 2021semi final was flawed, but the Babar bandwagon was soo strong and Ramiz was such a crazy fan boy that everyone was going crazy as if Babar was the next Imran. I called it than that he sucks as a captain.

Than Shadab Khan was never fixed. They kept playing and calling him back.

Chairmans switched, PSL was made the standard for captaincy. Shaheen was made captain out of no where, he sucked and than the Babar-Shaheen fiasco took place. Meanwhile there is no proper coach to guide and build a team culture.

4 years later, we are making the same mistake. Hasan Ali is back after 1 good psl season. THere is no more grinding of 3-4 years before making combacks. Shadab Khan is also back.

every new chairperson (changed frequently lately) comes with a set of new rules - this is where core destruction begins.

 

[Rana]

The 2021 India game did us more harm than good.

Just because Shaheen got u a wicket in opening spell, they decided that in every game Shaheen would open, even if the pitch supported spinners. So Imad got under utilized.

Than Babar's captaincy in the 2021semi final was flawed, but the Babar bandwagon was soo strong and Ramiz was such a crazy fan boy that everyone was going crazy as if Babar was the next Imran. I called it than that he sucks as a captain.

Than Shadab Khan was never fixed. They kept playing and calling him back.

Chairmans switched, PSL was made the standard for captaincy. Shaheen was made captain out of no where, he sucked and than the Babar-Shaheen fiasco took place. Meanwhile there is no proper coach to guide and build a team culture.

4 years later, we are making the same mistake. Hasan Ali is back after 1 good psl season. THere is no more grinding of 3-4 years before making combacks. Shadab Khan is also back.

You’ve made 2 posts

Not a single one mentioning the obvious and glaring addition of Misbah Ul Haq as coach/influencer.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The constant supply of fresh match winning talent stopped.

Since 2010s, most Pakistani players dealt with an inbuilt flaw that wouldn't let them grow beyond a point so the 2017 winning team suffered from the same disease, that wasn't unusual. What has been unusual has been that since then there has hardly been any breakout superstar.

In fact this is the longest phase now in Pakistan cricket history without any breakout superstar.

While other nations moved on from their 2017 squads long ago and have now emerging players taking over, Pakistan is still hoping against hopes for Babar or Shaheen to turn back the clock. It wont happen. They have already peaked and are now on a regression curve.

 

[Savak]

Poor PCB administration is to blame. They overhyped the players and then Ramiz took it to the next level and gave Babar god like powers without accountability and gave the senior troika Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab, Rauf e.t.c. the right to decide who will play in the team and who won't. The players have also seen musical chairs where so many coaches, board officials, chairman have come and gone which gave them the attitude everyone will go but we are here to stay forever regardless of performances.

 

[Major]

Poor PCB administration is to blame. They overhyped the players and then Ramiz took it to the next level and gave Babar god like powers without accountability and gave the senior troika Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab, Rauf e.t.c. the right to decide who will play in the team and who won't. The players have also seen musical chairs where so many coaches, board officials, chairman have come and gone which gave them the attitude everyone will go but we are here to stay forever regardless of performances.

The downfall was cause of Rameez.

Pindi pitch has been completely destroyed by him

 

[Rana]

The downfall was cause of Rameez

That’s not entirely true is it?

 

[topspin]

They beat England, New Zealand, South Africa, Afghanistan and Bangladesh in the 2019 World Cup in England


4 years later, they only beat Netherlands, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and NZ (DLS) in Asian conditions. They regressed massively. Something definitely went wrong.

Misbah ousted Mickey and took his job for himself. That's what went wrong but the Misbah's sympathisers aren't ready for that conversation.

 

[Rana]

Misbah ousted Mickey and took his job for himself. That's what went wrong but the Misbah's sympathisers aren't ready for that conversation.

Misbah couldn’t re-assert himself, so he did the second best thing and that’s enforce the curse of Rizwan on Pakistan cricket

 

[mominsaigol]

Misbah couldn’t re-assert himself, so he did the second best thing and that’s enforce the curse of Rizwan on Pakistan cricket

Naw, well your half right. That was his initial intention but rizzu didn't make sense at the time so he went with Babar.

However he was ousted before his plan could come into fruition.

But yes rizzu utilised his initial boost to propel himself forward. Still didn't work though, he got removed from t20 captaincy in record time.

I think its the 2nd fastest removal after shaheen.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tug of Captaincy

 

[Rana]

Tug of Captaincy

Between who though? Juveniles? Guys who were clearly not mature enough as leaders?

This wasn’t a team that had Ponting, Warne, Gilchrist, Symonds gunning for captaincy….guys who are natural leaders.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think the decline really started after the 2022 World T20.

2 reasons I can think of:

- Too many leadership changes (coaches, selectors etc.) too quickly. Things became chaotic.
- Lack of consistency in selections. Players were discarded too quickly or at the wrong time. Players were also not rotated/selected correctly.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Notice how all the players bar Safi are still playing for Pakistan.

When Sarfaraz was in charge these boys were performing to the max potential and could compete with top teams. People like to blame the players for being mediocore which is partially true however a great leader gets the best out of his players which Safi did

When Misbah and Rameez orchestrated their coups and destroyed the foundation the great man built and replaced it with the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket it was only inevitable that we would hit rock bottom

The same would have happened to the Australian team of the 90s if Gilchrist was replaced by Rizwan or India of the 2010s if Dhoni was replaced by that agent of chaos

 

[Mamoon]

“When Sarfaraz was in charge these boys were performing to the max potential and could compete with top teams.”

5-0 whitewash in New Zealand, 2018 Asia Cup disaster, 5-0 whitewash in England, 2019 World Cup group stage exit with the the third worst NRR among all teams, 8 consecutive ODI defeats in 2018.

A W/L ratio between 2018-19 that would put a minnow to shame and let’s not forget he started the trend of losing home Test series.

He was lucky there was no T20 World Cup in 2018 otherwise that drama would have been exposed as well.

Pakistan did well in the format at the time because they played a lot of B and C teams because other teams except Pakistan were focused on ODI cricket in that period due to the 2019 World Cup.

As I said earlier, I will not let the usual ignoramuses rewrite history and change the narrative to fuel their dumb agendas.

I am a witness to how rubbish Pakistan was between 2018-2019 and how removing Sarfaraz from the team both as a captain and as a player was necessary.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

“When Sarfaraz was in charge these boys were performing to the max potential and could compete with top teams.”

5-0 whitewash in New Zealand, 2018 Asia Cup disaster, 5-0 whitewash in England, 2019 World Cup group stage exit with the the third worst NRR among all teams, 8 consecutive ODI defeats in 2018.

A W/L ratio between 2018-19 that would put a minnow to shame and let’s not forget he started the trend of losing home Test series.

He was lucky there was no T20 World Cup in 2018 otherwise that drama would have been exposed as well.

Pakistan did well in the format at the time because they played a lot of B and C teams because other teams except Pakistan were focused on ODI cricket in that period due to the 2019 World Cup.

As I said earlier, I will not let the usual ignoramuses rewrite history and change the narrative to fuel their dumb agendas.

I am a witness to how rubbish Pakistan was between 2018-2019 and how removing Sarfaraz from the team both as a captain and as a player was necessary.

Pakistan may have been rubbish in ODI bilateral cricket in that short period but they were overall a better side than they have been over the last couple of years.

Won Champions Trophy compared to the disaster in 2025 and the 2019 campaign was far superior to the 2023 campaign.

#1 T20I ranking as well compared to the #7 ranking currently.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan may have been rubbish in ODI bilateral cricket in that short period but they were overall a better side than they have been over the last couple of years.

Won Champions Trophy compared to the disaster in 2025 and the 2019 campaign was far superior to the 2023 campaign.

#1 T20I ranking as well compared to the #7 ranking currently.

Pakistan’s current team is better in all formats, but the only problem is Babar’s form. Sarfaraz had the luxury of having an in-form Babar, but Babar’s lost his form in an unfortunate manner which cost him his captaincy as well.

Sarfaraz was a nothing player and a nothing captain. Rizwan for all his faults is far better than him in all formats. Sarfaraz was also insecure to boot - he didn’t even let Rizwan be in the squad of the World Cup in 2019 in spite of scoring 2 centuries in the ODI series vs Australia, which was more than what Sarfaraz managed in 2 years.

Sarfaraz yawning with his belly sticking out is the defining image of his legacy as an international cricketer and captain. Bang average.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan’s current team is better in all formats,

No it’s not.

 

[mominsaigol]

No it’s not.

Pakistan’s current team is better in all formats, but the only problem is Babar’s form. Sarfaraz had the luxury of having an in-form Babar, but Babar’s lost his form in an unfortunate manner which cost him his captaincy as well.

Sarfaraz was a nothing player and a nothing captain. Rizwan for all his faults is far better than him in all formats. Sarfaraz was also insecure to boot - he didn’t even let Rizwan be in the squad of the World Cup in 2019 in spite of scoring 2 centuries in the ODI series vs Australia, which was more than what Sarfaraz managed in 2 years.

Sarfaraz yawning with his belly sticking out is the defining image of his legacy as an international cricketer and captain. Bang average.

Anyone with a brain can tell 2017-2019 Pakistan nukes 2025 Pakistan.

2017-2019

1) Fakhar
2) Imam/Azhar
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Haris sohail
6) Malik
7) Sarfaraz
8) Imad/ Shadab
9) Hasan Ali/ Wahab
10) Amir
11) Junaid Khan/ Shaheen

^^ All these players were inform. Even imam who i have issues with was soft scoring centuries which is more then his fat put of shape body can do today.

Meanwhile 2025 ct

1) Imam Ul haq
2) Babar Azam
3) Saud Shakeel
4) Muhammad Rizwan
5) Salman Ali Agha
6) Tayyab
7) Khusdil
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Abrar

This is a terrible team and you've lost your marbels. The whole team depends upon fakhar and saim and maybe agha otherwise the team is completly toast.

Rana is right, Javed Afridi hacked your account lol

 

[Mamoon]

Anyone with a brain can tell 2017-2019 Pakistan nukes 2025 Pakistan.

2017-2019

1) Fakhar
2) Imam/Azhar
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Haris sohail
6) Malik
7) Sarfaraz
8) Imad/ Shadab
9) Hasan Ali/ Wahab
10) Amir
11) Junaid Khan/ Shaheen

^^ All these players were inform. Even imam who i have issues with was soft scoring centuries which is more then his fat put of shape body can do today.

Meanwhile 2025 ct

1) Imam Ul haq
2) Babar Azam
3) Saud Shakeel
4) Muhammad Rizwan
5) Salman Ali Agha
6) Tayyab
7) Khusdil
8) Shaheen
9) Naseem
10) Rauf
11) Abrar

This is a terrible team and you've lost your marbels. The whole team depends upon fakhar and saim and maybe agha otherwise the team is completly toast.

Rana is right, Javed Afridi hacked your account lol

The fact that you are fixating on the CT 25 injury-ridden squad while mentioned the full-strength squad from 2017-19 shows that you are not interested in an impartial comparison and want to drive your agenda.

Moreover, you conveniently mentioned Haris Sohail in the 2017-19 period where he only played 19 ODIs out of the 61 that Pakistan played in those years, but we can let that one go because it is important for your agenda and I really liked him and consider him as a huge wasted talent.

This is my combined 2017-19 and 2022-current ODI XI.

Fakhar
Saim
Babar
Haris
Rizwan
Hafeez
Agha
Shadab
Shaheen
Naseem/Rauf/Junaid/Wahab
Abrar

Hafeez and Haris are the only retired/discarded players from that era that will get into the current XI.

Naseem, Rauf, Junaid and Wahab are all mediocre and interchangeable. Shadab gets into the team because he is the only available leg-spinner, and his bowling was really bad in 2018-2019 as well but he got a lot of protection from the fans because he still has credit left in the bank from his explosive entry in 2017 especially in the West Indies prior to the CT.

You can hate Rizwan as much as you want, but he is twice the WK batsman Sarfaraz was especially in the 2017-19 period.

Sarfaraz at the time was a complete failure and a strong contender for being the worst WK batsman in the format.

Haris is an improvement on Saud for sure but Agha is much better than 2017-19 washed Malik.

Hafeez himself was very ordinary in ODIs after he stopped being effective with his bowling. He barely did anything with the bat in this period apart from 2-3 knocks before a golden run in T20Is in 2020.

However, I don’t have a problem picking his 2017-19 version over KG or Tayyab today.

Imad the self-appointed superstar was useless in ODIs with an average of 60+ with the ball. The format didn’t allow him to do the powerplay bowling drama. I will pick Abrar over him.

 

[Rana]

You can hate Rizwan as much as you want, but he is twice the WK batsman Sarfaraz was especially in the 2017-19 period

More and more nonsense. Rizwan was a better keeper, but for a player who occupied one position only and causing serious detriment to Pakistan cricket to the point that he had to be forced out with an average of 47….

Whilst Sarfaraz who captained his side to no.1 in the rankings without even holding on to a top 6 position?!?!?

 

[mominsaigol]

The fact that you are fixating on the CT 25 injury-ridden squad while mentioned the full-strength squad from 2017-19 shows that you are not interested in an impartial comparison and want to drive your agenda.

Moreover, you conveniently mentioned Haris Sohail in the 2017-19 period where he only played 19 ODIs out of the 61 that Pakistan played in those years, but we can let that one go because it is important for your agenda and I really liked him and consider him as a huge wasted talent.

This is my combined 2017-19 and 2022-current ODI XI.

Fakhar
Saim
Babar
Haris
Rizwan
Hafeez
Agha
Shadab
Shaheen
Naseem/Rauf/Junaid/Wahab
Abrar

Hafeez and Haris are the only retired/discarded players from that era that will get into the current XI.

Naseem, Rauf, Junaid and Wahab are all mediocre and interchangeable. Shadab gets into the team because he is the only available leg-spinner, and his bowling was really bad in 2018-2019 as well but he got a lot of protection from the fans because he still has credit left in the bank from his explosive entry in 2017 especially in the West Indies prior to the CT.

You can hate Rizwan as much as you want, but he is twice the WK batsman Sarfaraz was especially in the 2017-19 period.

Sarfaraz at the time was a complete failure and a strong contender for being the worst WK batsman in the format.

Haris is an improvement on Saud for sure but Agha is much better than 2017-19 washed Malik.

Hafeez himself was very ordinary in ODIs after he stopped being effective with his bowling. He barely did anything with the bat in this period apart from 2-3 knocks before a golden run in T20Is in 2020.

However, I don’t have a problem picking his 2017-19 version over KG or Tayyab today.

Imad the self-appointed superstar was useless in ODIs with an average of 60+ with the ball. The format didn’t allow him to do the powerplay bowling drama. I will pick Abrar over him.

What injury ridden squad?

I already mentioned that 2025 was fakhar + saim or bust.

If your entire lineup is fixated on these 2 then its a failure. To top it off im not the one who claimed Pakistan were favourites to win ct 2025, you did lol.

Australia didn't have half their squad yet they made semi's. Would have probably defeated India if India didn't fixate on dubai + aus were full strength.

 

[Mamoon]

More and more nonsense. Rizwan was a better keeper, but for a player who occupied one position only and causing serious detriment to Pakistan cricket to the point that he had to be forced out with an average of 47….

Whilst Sarfaraz who captained his side to no.1 in the rankings without even holding on to a top 6 position?!?!?

We are talking about ODIs here. Sarfraz turned Pakistan into a minnow in ODIs between 2018 and 2019, and his pathetic batting was a key driver behind Pakistan’s demise.

He had lost so much confidence in himself that he started hiding behind tailenders like Wahab, Amir and Hasan Ali who would often bat above him. How embarrassing.

Pakistan couldn’t be further from the number 1 ranking in ODIs at the time. They were closer to being number 1 from the bottom.

Sarfaraz also ruined Pakistan in Test cricket.

The only saving grace was T20Is, but that bubble would have burst if there was a T20I World Cup in 2018. He was lucky there wasn’t one.

He cashed on playing a lot of T20I cricket vs C and D teams as other boards were resting their key players to prioritize ODIs because it was the ODI World Cup season.

However, if there was T20I World Cup in 2018, all teams would have fielded their best XIs and Sarfraz and his topi drama would have been exposed.

 

[Mamoon]

What injury ridden squad?

I already mentioned that 2025 was fakhar + saim or bust.

If your entire lineup is fixated on these 2 then its a failure. To top it off im not the one who claimed Pakistan were favourites to win ct 2025, you did lol.

Australia didn't have half their squad yet they made semi's. Would have probably defeated India if India didn't fixate on dubai + aus were full strength.

2-3 players make all the difference and this goes for every team. Everyone fields 11 players but the fate of the team lies with 2-3 players. It is the same everywhere.

Losing Fakhar and Saim at the same completely derailed Pakistan. They didn’t have the time to replace them properly. Babar was already in bad touch and wasn’t going to do much as an opener, and a rusty and out of practice Imam was not going to do much either.

The CT was a shambles of a tournament. Pakistan’s fate was sealed due to injuries while Indian enjoyed an unfair advantage of playing all matches on one venue tailored to their strengths.

Pakistan’s best possible ODI XI today is a solid outfit. Not the best in the world but good enough to be competitive, more so than the 2018-19 minnow-like was in their era, having lost 32 out of 40 ODIs with so-called quality players who are were supposedly far better than what we have today. I wonder who forced them to humiliate themselves during those two years if they were that good.

 

[mominsaigol]

2-3 players make all the difference and this goes for every team. Everyone fields 11 players but the fate of the team lies with 2-3 players. It is the same everywhere.

Losing Fakhar and Saim at the same completely derailed Pakistan. They didn’t have the time to replace them properly. Babar was already in bad touch and wasn’t going to do much as an opener, and a rusty and out of practice Imam was not going to do much either.

The CT was a shambles of a tournament. Pakistan’s fate was sealed due to injuries while Indian enjoyed an unfair advantage of playing all matches on one venue tailored to their strengths.

Pakistan’s best possible ODI XI today is a solid outfit. Not the best in the world but good enough to be competitive, more so than the 2018-19 minnow-like was in their era, having lost 32 out of 40 ODIs with so-called quality players who are were supposedly far better than what we have today. I wonder who forced them to humiliate themselves during those two years if they were that good.

Whatever floats your boat bro. One time won a CT, the other team flopped it.

 

[Mamoon]

Sarfaraz should have been dropped for Rizwan for the 2019 World Cup.

Sarfaraz was a clown between 2018 and 2019 and the March 2019 ODI series between Pakistan and Australia showed that Rizwan was vastly superior.

However, Mickey Arthur didn’t have the courage to take the decision that Misbah had the courage to do so immediately after the World Cup.

If Mickey wasn’t sacked, he would have continued to protect Sarfaraz, but Misbah knew how mediocre Sarfaraz was.

 

[Mamoon]

Whatever floats your boat bro. One time won a CT, the other team flopped it.

CT is a format where flukes happen. The great Australian team was in their prime between 2000 and 2004 and teams like New Zealand, India/Sri Lanka and West Indies won the CT in that era but couldn’t stop the Australian machine from winning the 2003 and 2007 World Cups.

Sarfaraz’s ODI team was bang average before and after the CT but the stars aligned for them for 3 games. The way they performed in ODI cricket between 2018 and 2019 illustrated how poor the team was and how poor his captaincy was.

 

[Rana]

CT is a format where flukes happen. The great Australian team was in their prime between 2000 and 2004 and teams like New Zealand, India/Sri Lanka and West Indies won the CT in that era but couldn’t stop the Australian machine from winning the 2003 and 2007 World Cups.

Sarfaraz’s ODI team was bang average before and after the CT but the stars aligned for them for 3 games. The way they performed in ODI cricket between 2018 and 2019 illustrated how poor the team was and how poor his captaincy was.

Yeah and the stars aligning for Babar in the 2022 World Cup wasn’t down to the fact that he had built towards a rubbish T20 set up? Or the fact that they edged through to the Asia cup final because of fluke hits by Naseem Shah against Afghanistan??

What do you have to say about that? What do you have to say about the fact that Pakistan were totally crap under Babar inside or outside of ICC tournaments during his tenure?

 

[mominsaigol]

CT is a format where flukes happen. The great Australian team was in their prime between 2000 and 2004 and teams like New Zealand, India/Sri Lanka and West Indies won the CT in that era but couldn’t stop the Australian machine from winning the 2003 and 2007 World Cups.

Sarfaraz’s ODI team was bang average before and after the CT but the stars aligned for them for 3 games. The way they performed in ODI cricket between 2018 and 2019 illustrated how poor the team was and how poor his captaincy was.

Ask yourself why these so called flukes have not occurred for Babar and Rizwan.

 

[shah9425]

CT is a format where flukes happen. The great Australian team was in their prime between 2000 and 2004 and teams like New Zealand, India/Sri Lanka and West Indies won the CT in that era but couldn’t stop the Australian machine from winning the 2003 and 2007 World Cups.

Sarfaraz’s ODI team was bang average before and after the CT but the stars aligned for them for 3 games. The way they performed in ODI cricket between 2018 and 2019 illustrated how poor the team was and how poor his captaincy was.

Keep cooking these waterboy fraudulent fans

 

[shah9425]

Notice how all the players bar Safi are still playing for Pakistan.

When Sarfaraz was in charge these boys were performing to the max potential and could compete with top teams. People like to blame the players for being mediocore which is partially true however a great leader gets the best out of his players which Safi did

When Misbah and Rameez orchestrated their coups and destroyed the foundation the great man built and replaced it with the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket it was only inevitable that we would hit rock bottom

The same would have happened to the Australian team of the 90s if Gilchrist was replaced by Rizwan or India of the 2010s if Dhoni was replaced by that agent of chaos

Maximum yawning performance

 

[Greenstorm]

1. Misbah cunningly regime changed Mickey and applied his outdated ideas which backfired. That guy is back now so beware.
2. Ramiz had the right idea of giving powers to captain but that captain i.e Babar lacked courage and was tactically inept. Ramiz also destroyed pitches which meant that home test series were unwinnable for us.
3. Constant changes of chairmen with each new one bringing in his own team management and captains which destroyed team atmosphere.

 

[Greenstorm]

Notice how all the players bar Safi are still playing for Pakistan.

When Sarfaraz was in charge these boys were performing to the max potential and could compete with top teams. People like to blame the players for being mediocore which is partially true however a great leader gets the best out of his players which Safi did

When Misbah and Rameez orchestrated their coups and destroyed the foundation the great man built and replaced it with the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket it was only inevitable that we would hit rock bottom

The same would have happened to the Australian team of the 90s if Gilchrist was replaced by Rizwan or India of the 2010s if Dhoni was replaced by that agent of chaos

Sarfaraz was a selfless person and an effective leader but he was extremely mediocre as a batsman. In that 2019 WC, he was a liability for Pakistan. I remember that run chase against Australia where Sarfaraz was relying on Wahab, Amir and Hassan to win the game with bat !

And just like Babar, he was too afraid to oppose selection of Shoaib Malik who probably had a very strong sifarish. He should have also stood up for Junaid Khan when he was unfairly kicked out by Mickey prior to the WC.

 

[Mamoon]

Ask yourself why these so called flukes have not occurred for Babar and Rizwan.

It’s what God wanted.

 

[Mamoon]

Yeah and the stars aligning for Babar in the 2022 World Cup wasn’t down to the fact that he had built towards a rubbish T20 set up? Or the fact that they edged through to the Asia cup final because of fluke hits by Naseem Shah against Afghanistan??

What do you have to say about that? What do you have to say about the fact that Pakistan were totally crap under Babar inside or outside of ICC tournaments during his tenure?

In 2021, Pakistan under Babar produced one of the most dominant tournament performances ever but unfortunately they fell short in the semifinal thanks to Hasan Ali and Imad.

Pakistan did well under him in tournaments but couldn’t clear the final hurdle which was unfortunate. 2023 World Cup was a disaster but mainly because Babar’s own form was very poor. Babar is an elite batsman and if he is in poor form Pakistan have no chance.

2024 World Cup was shambles and I do blame Babar for it because he shouldn’t have allowed washed up losers like Amir and Imad to come back into the fold who helped Pakistan crash out by bowling the worst Super Over and worst T20I innings in history.

 

[BouncerGuy]

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