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What will be the future of PML and PPP when they recognize Israel?

They have no power in PK at all and never did. It was IK, the legend, the Muslim.patriot that refused to recognise Israel and then there is your sellouts. They sold PK to stay in.power. Look at the humiliation of Munir being forced to walk into the White House through the back door and treated the piece of crap that he is

Your diversion and beghairati can never explain this

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Pakistan has never recognised Israel and never will its all fake propoganda from your cult

Same way your fake news about pakistan giving bases to usa to attack iran all turned out to be false when all 3 parties signed a ceasefire .
And you cult members were saying munir is going for regime change In iran and is going to help trump do it .
 
Pakistan has never recognised Israel and never will its all fake propoganda from your cult

Same way your fake news about pakistan giving bases to usa to attack iran all turned out to be false when all 3 parties signed a ceasefire .
And you cult members were saying munir is going for regime change In iran and is going to help trump do it .
Never will? Your own Generals are already creating the ground with stories in the press. Trump humiliated Munir, making him walk like his servant. If that isnt beghairati, what is? And look at Blinken meeting Munir, why Munir? Because Munir gave them promises.
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So what

Why can't pakistan have good relations with usa

Aren't your taliban buddies licking india

Trump stopped a nuclear war and saved India from a spanking and a possible nuclear exchange. He stopped any Indian misadventure

On the other hand your leader handed over abhinandan , sold kashmir something 10% and koosra and gilani didn't even manage and then I parliament said what should I do should i attack india.

Also your transgender aleema khan pakistans version of brigitte macron was treacherlously backing india she's on camera saying why all these drones are flying over rawalpindi islamabad deliberately ridiculing our army is a war situation who needs enemies when you have these internal mir jaffars
Its not about good relationship, its about being forced to walk through the White Hiuse Kitchen. Munir can't survive for a day without the Americans, so this is a Master- Servant relationship, not one of equals. You are servants of a regime that has supported the murder of 60,000 Muslims and wants to kill off the Palestinians.
My leader responded to the attack like a man, what happened to Munir? The crook had no intention of attacking and his hand was forced by the Airforce. They killed many PKs? He did nothing until the Airforce responded.
So asking an obvious question that we could also is treachery. Your beghairati has no equivalents.
 
Let's see. If he has agreed to it then he will.have no choice. Along with the Nooras and PPP, the Mullahs are about to get their reckoning. For decades they have pretended to be Islamic but were in the control of the Generals and now they are totally silent. Senator Mushtaq was beaten and arrested, a relative was murdered but the JI stayed silent. IK greatest service to PK is to expose every single institution and political party, including the majority of his own party. If we recognise Israel after what they did to our Palestinian brothers and sisters, we too are finished.
From the looks of it, Munir is religiously oriented like Zia. Infact he seems to be far more ruthless and malicious. People with such religious tilt are naturally against Israel. Also, I doubt there is much pressure on him to recognize Israel anyways considering Western nations are breaking ties with Israel.
Trump can be tamed by khushamad and Munir has outsmarted even the Israelis in this regard:afridi. Trump is also using him to pressurize India in relation to tariffs and BRICS.

Recognizing Israel will be a big blow to all the boot lovers and other chamchay who are conveniently calling themselves 'patriots' these days. Therefore, I don't think Munir is dumb enough to do it.
 
As the day gets closer when Trump and Netanyahu hold Failed Martial Munir to his promise of recognising Israel. The question will be who carries the can. Both PMLN and PPP havd sold everything to sit in the lap of the Establishment and have been given a free pass to steal a trillion like cr"*ked Punjab CM or even more trillions like the PPP in Sindh. But now the Establishment want these cr"*ks to be the public front of momentus decision to recognise a Genocidal state that has killed 1000s of our Palestinian brothers and sisters and attacked our fellow Muslim countries in the pursuit of greater Israel. Munir walked into the White House to avoid the crate of Mangoes and accept Israel. These 2 parties have less than 50 seats and no support. Will Maryam and Bilawal accept the dictat and do as told. Things are about to get a whole lot interesting. Will this be the end of these 2 parties?

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I don’t support PML nor do I support PPP but what evidence do you have that they would recognise Israel?

I refute this because the army runs things. Pakistan isn’t the norm where the army is subservient to the government.


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Why are you running away from agreeing that Dimmy is a non entity?


Did you take a look at the thread title before posting?

You have contributed a ton of posts in this thread but I don't think any of them have addressed the actual topic which is PPP and PMNL. Not the PTI.
 
There is no concept in Islam in "marrying into" a religion.

The Prophet (saw) had a Jewish wife, and maintained ties with her Jewish relatives. When she was taunted by others with anti-semitimic comments the Prophet mentioned to her

"Certainly, you are the daughter of a Prophet (Harun), your uncle is a Prophet (Musa), and you are married to a Prophet (himself); so what is she boasting to you about?”

There is a lot of anti-semitism in the world and there is some Imran hatred too in this thread, let's not couple these two biases into unnecessary racism. Criticise Imran but why base the comments on the relatives of his former wife? Especially when his wife publcly condemns the Israeli genocide in Gaza.
 
There is no concept in Islam in "marrying into" a religion.

The Prophet (saw) had a Jewish wife, and maintained ties with her Jewish relatives. When she was taunted by others with anti-semitimic comments the Prophet mentioned to her

"Certainly, you are the daughter of a Prophet (Harun), your uncle is a Prophet (Musa), and you are married to a Prophet (himself); so what is she boasting to you about?”

There is a lot of anti-semitism in the world and there is some Imran hatred too in this thread, let's not couple these two biases into unnecessary racism. Criticise Imran but why base the comments on the relatives of his former wife? Especially when his wife publcly condemns the Israeli genocide in Gaza.


It would be even better if posters can address the topic instead of deflecting to PTI or Imran Khan which is what usual suspects are doing.

We need some clarity on what the policy is of the current govt, this cannot be answered by Immy Dimmy Jimmy chants.
 
It would be even better if posters can address the topic instead of deflecting to PTI or Imran Khan which is what usual suspects are doing.

We need some clarity on what the policy is of the current govt, this cannot be answered by Immy Dimmy Jimmy chants.
Those chats are the policy of the current govt in most matters
 
ALL OF YOUR GUYS SHOULD READ THE TOPIC TITLE AGAIN..

DON'T DO PTI PTI HERE.... STAY ON TOPIC OR LEAVE
 
On the topic itself..... ofcourse they will follow what the Saudis say, I mean don't the sharif family work for them? .... Wonder if they still have those Iqamas
 
Did you take a look at the thread title before posting?

You have contributed a ton of posts in this thread but I don't think any of them have addressed the actual topic which is PPP and PMNL. Not the PTI.
All you have done is defend Dimmy in this thread so practice what you preach I guess? OP is a PTI troll and his language for patriots is terrible to say the least. No sources posted in the opening post - mere heresay from his buddies outside Cell 84 and I am supposed to address the thread title? How about substantiating it with...you know evidence? This isn't Devdawal or Joshila or Momingol here, big league here.
 
Can't be clearer than that my mate. As hard as it may be for certain groups. Support the country over individuals.
It is not clear whatsoever.

What are you so afraid of? This is the level of your courage?...

Come on, pluck some courage and tell us who you referred to as the "patriots".
 
All you have done is defend Dimmy in this thread so practice what you preach I guess? OP is a PTI troll and his language for patriots is terrible to say the least. No sources posted in the opening post - mere heresay from his buddies outside Cell 84 and I am supposed to address the thread title? How about substantiating it with...you know evidence? This isn't Devdawal or Joshila or Momingol here, big league here.

Why don't you quote me one post where I have defended "Dimmy" in this thread?
 
I don’t support PML nor do I support PPP but what evidence do you have that they would recognise Israel?

I refute this because the army runs things. Pakistan isn’t the norm where the army is subservient to the government.


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They have no choice. They are both nationalised parties with zero public support. The Nooras won 17 seats and the PPP slightly more and here they are today with more than a 2/3rd majority. Do you think they were elected on form 47s to disobey their contemporary God. Their own people are setting the ground and at the same time fearing the consequences of outright hatred from the Public. I told you months back that one of the conditions for Munir to stay in power was that ge recognises Israel.
 
They have no choice. They are both nationalised parties with zero public support. The Nooras won 17 seats and the PPP slightly more and here they are today with more than a 2/3rd majority. Do you think they were elected on form 47s to disobey their contemporary God. Their own people are setting the ground and at the same time fearing the consequences of outright hatred from the Public. I told you months back that one of the conditions for Munir to stay in power was that ge recognises Israel.
Source. provide valid sources!
 
All you have done is defend Dimmy in this thread so practice what you preach I guess? OP is a PTI troll and his language for patriots is terrible to say the least. No sources posted in the opening post - mere heresay from his buddies outside Cell 84 and I am supposed to address the thread title? How about substantiating it with...you know evidence? This isn't Devdawal or Joshila or Momingol here, big league here.
What is a patriot? Do you think a patriot overthrows the constitution? Kills his own people? Destroys every institution? Steals billions and allow others to steal billions( a trillion is unaccounted for in Punjab as reported by Ansar Abbasi). Do you think a patriot threatens judges like in the IHC or steal an election with just 17 seats? Come on loser we don't need lots of crappy words, we need a definition of a patriot. And here cones the tissue from you.
 
What is a patriot? Do you think a patriot overthrows the constitution? Kills his own people? Destroys every institution? Steals billions and allow others to steal billions( a trillion is unaccounted for in Punjab as reported by Ansar Abbasi). Do you think a patriot threatens judges like in the IHC or steal an election with just 17 seats? Come on loser we don't need lots of crappy words, we need a definition of a patriot. And here cones the tissue from you.
Word salad - post a source for your claims. Credible clear source or the whole thread is invalid.
 
Source. provide valid sources!
You need watch your own leaders. Its them that are setting the ground for this. Rana Sanaullah has spoken about this. And look at who hosted Munir in America-Sajid Tarar. Look at his profile and his pro Israel tweets. you could spend a few minutes doing your research

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Word salad - post a source for your claims. Credible clear source or the whole thread is invalid.
Another tuss. Which bit is untrue? Let's hear you gorm. What is a patriot? Each and every point I have made has been Admitted by the very people you call patriots, and unless you are hiding in an RSS bunker, you would know that
 
Our dear resident racist fantasist with jewish and Israelis relatives @mazkhan, pay attention to the above. If your low IQ is an issue, I am sure DV will decipher it further for you to understand... just let him know.

Listen you that wasn't my quote I copy pasted what jemima said on a blog with baddiel and baroness warsi you clown.

As for racism did I start this thread about recognition of israel it was done by your pti diehard bewal express.
And he has bought zero evidence that pakistan is going to officially recognise Israel.
Sameway a few weeks back he was claiming munir was bought to white house to sell out iran which was clearly another lie .
 
They are Jewish by race they dont have to be practicing jewish religion.
And you dont have to be jewish to be a zionist which the goldsmith brothers are and support israel.

If I started practicing Judaism tomorrow I wouldn't be allowed in israel and I couldn't and settle with the nutters in west bank they would never accept me

If tomorrow suleiman and kasim start practicing Judaism they could settle in israel and settle in west bank settlements and those nutters might even give one of their daughters in marriage why because of jewish descent . Same way if kasim and suleiman mamoo ji wanted to settle in israsl they could .

There's huge pressure on pakistan with Abraham accords and kasim khan tweeting and zionist mouthpiece piers morgan they want their cult leader back.
You're posting half quotes from Jemima Khan Goldsmith. In one of the quotes u posted she mentions her sons are Muslims.

As for the Rothschilds and Goldsmith family being connected that's true. They're both originally banking Famlies from Germany

Most of her close family are Pro Israel, that doesn't mean she has to be
 
You're posting half quotes from Jemima Khan Goldsmith. In one of the quotes u posted she mentions her sons are Muslims.

As for the Rothschilds and Goldsmith family being connected that's true. They're both originally banking Famlies from Germany

Most of her close family are Pro Israel, that doesn't mean she has to be


The crux is op saying that ppp and pmln and mistry are zineist agents and somehow responsible for the genocide of thousands of Palestinians which is bull and they are going to recognise Israel yet no evidence of any substance has been given apart from social media hearsay.

Calling someone zineist when your own leader has married into zionist family and his sons have zionist relatives included the horrible islamphobe that was zac goldsmith who ran for London mayor.
 
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From the looks of it, Munir is religiously oriented like Zia. Infact he seems to be far more ruthless and malicious. People with such religious tilt are naturally against Israel. Also, I doubt there is much pressure on him to recognize Israel anyways considering Western nations are breaking ties with Israel.
Trump can be tamed by khushamad and Munir has outsmarted even the Israelis in this regard:afridi. Trump is also using him to pressurize India in relation to tariffs and BRICS.

Recognizing Israel will be a big blow to all the boot lovers and other chamchay who are conveniently calling themselves 'patriots' these days. Therefore, I don't think Munir is dumb enough to do it.
Let's see. Its their own people that are setting the ground for it.
 
The crux is op saying that ppp and pmln and mistry are zineist agents and somehow responsible for the genocide of thousands of Palestinians which is bull and they are going to recognise Israel yet no evidence of any substance has been given apart from social media hearsay.

Calling someone zineist when your own leader has married into zionist family and his sons have zionist relatives included the horrible islamphobe that was zac goldsmith who ran for London mayor.
They are not responsible for the genocide but look at their connivance with the zinists. Bar the few demos that are planned by the Generals, the PK are locked up for demonstrating. Senator Mushtaq was locked up and had a relative murdered and his party-JI couldn't utter a word. If you knkw anything about how Israel operates, you would know that if Netanyahu wanted, Munir wouldn’t just be going through the kitchen, he would have to crawl through the sewers to meet Trump. That alone tells you that Israel believes PK is on side. Even Bob Vylan has had his visa revoked
 
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Listen you that wasn't my quote I copy pasted what jemima said on a blog with baddiel and baroness warsi you clown.

As for racism did I start this thread about recognition of israel it was done by your pti diehard bewal express.
And he has bought zero evidence that pakistan is going to officially recognise Israel.
Sameway a few weeks back he was claiming munir was bought to white house to sell out iran which was clearly another lie .
"Officially recognise Israel". So you accept.that unofficially they will and just cant let the public knows. Can you explain what the role of Sajid Tarrar is in hosting Munir in America and what are his views are on Israel?
 
They are not responsible for the genocide but look at their connivance with the zionists. Bar the few demos that are planned by the Generals, the PK are locked up for demonstrating. Senator Mushtaq was locked up and had a relative murdered and his party-JI couldn't utter a word. If you knkw anything about how Israel operates, you would know that if Netanyahu wanted, Munir wouldn’t just be going through the kitchen, he would have to crawl through the sewers to meet Trump. That alone tells you that Israel believes PK is on side. Even Bob Vylan has had his visa revoked

Your leader wasn't any better after dilly dallying for months and changing finance ministers he went back to the very imf that is controlled by zionists where he is on record that he will commit suicide than go to the imf . And let's not forget how putin used him for optics .

Pakistan is economically hemorrhaged and blackmailed so I dont know why you are pushing for us to take on usa and israel when the neighbouring arabis to palestine aren't doing anything did you see what Egypt did to that gaza convoy . On the otherhand pakistan opened its borders for decades and housed Afghans all to the detriment of our own nation .
 
Your leader wasn't any better after dilly dallying for months and changing finance ministers he went back to the very imf that is controlled by zionists where he is on record that he will commit suicide than go to the imf . And let's not forget how putin used him for optics .

Pakistan is economically hemorrhaged and blackmailed so I dont know why you are pushing for us to take on usa and israel when the neighbouring arabis to palestine aren't doing anything did you see what Egypt did to that gaza convoy . On the otherhand pakistan opened its borders for decades and housed Afghans all to the detriment of our own nation .
My leader left a stable economy growing at 6% and exports that were growing and the CAD was under control. Inflation was around 11% and trust had grown with decent Foreign reserves. All this during a once in a lifetime pandemic where IKs leadership was widely praised around the World
The question is who put PK into the hands of the zionists? IK was leader for just over 3.5 years, so even someone as stupid and as dishonest as you has to ask who has been in charge for the other 74 years. Who allowed the mafias to take control of PK? I can tell you it wasn't IK who borrowed trillions (even though he dealt with a once in a lifetime pandemic), and allowed the national debt to double in 3 years since 2022.. Who allowed IPPs and the Sugar mafia to steal billions from the poor? I can tell you it wasn't IK. Beghairat people like you have no arguments and just embarrass yourselves with your lies. Then you run off when facts are given, then you wait a couple of weeks and hope you grow some brain cells and challenge me. Rinse and repeat
 
The comical irony is that the loudest voices in this thread (along with the OP) are the British Pakistanis who pay taxes to the British government then funds and supplies arms to Israel.

You have a problem with Pakistan recognizing Israel (which they will not) but don’t see the problem with the part that you are playing in funding the genocide.

I am not interested in the rubbish excuses and justifications of oh we cannot control where our tax money is going etc. You cannot but you can control where you live, and you choose to live in a country that is in bed with the zionists and you fund it with your income, all because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to you than the suffering of the Muslim ummah.
 
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Another tuss. Which bit is untrue? Let's hear you gorm. What is a patriot? Each and every point I have made has been Admitted by the very people you call patriots, and unless you are hiding in an RSS bunker, you would know that
You keep saying "your PM" "your army chief" "your chief minister" when addressing patriots; who is your PM then?
 
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The comical irony is that the loudest voices in this thread (along with the OP) are the British Pakistanis who pay taxes to the British government then funds and supplies arms to Israel.

You have a problem with Pakistan recognizing Israel (which they will not) but don’t see the problem with the part that you are playing in funding the genocide.

I am not interested in the rubbish excuses and justifications of oh we cannot control where our tax money is going etc. You cannot but you can control where you live, and you choose to live in a country that is in bed with the zionists and you fund it with your income, all because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to you than the suffering of the Muslim ummah.
I agree with you here but how is it different to you making completely different posts and disowning everything you have said in the past. You know a thing or two about hypocrisy.
 
You need watch your own leaders. Its them that are setting the ground for this. Rana Sanaullah has spoken about this. And look at who hosted Munir in America-Sajid Tarar. Look at his profile and his pro Israel tweets. you could spend a few minutes doing your research

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How the heck is this evidence of anything? This is your evidence?
 
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The comical irony is that the loudest voices in this thread (along with the OP) are the British Pakistanis who pay taxes to the British government then funds and supplies arms to Israel.

You have a problem with Pakistan recognizing Israel (which they will not) but don’t see the problem with the part that you are playing in funding the genocide.

I am not interested in the rubbish excuses and justifications of oh we cannot control where our tax money is going etc. You cannot but you can control where you live, and you choose to live in a country that is in bed with the zionists and you fund it with your income, all because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to you than the suffering of the Muslim ummah.
As I said you were and always will be the guy that I humiliated. Remember all your posts on how NS was the anti establishment guy, and Nani would bring civilan rule. That aged well 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You want me to live in PK and then be locked up without trial for 3 years by criminals that are holding PK hostage. Just ask Dr Yasmin et al
IK did live in PK and has an effective death sentence and no justice court to appeal. Any person with a ghairat would speak against a terrible injusticd but you cant utter a word IK won the election and guess what happened to him? Guess what happened to the demonstrators that lived in PK?
 
The comical irony is that the loudest voices in this thread (along with the OP) are the British Pakistanis who pay taxes to the British government then funds and supplies arms to Israel.

You have a problem with Pakistan recognizing Israel (which they will not) but don’t see the problem with the part that you are playing in funding the genocide.

I am not interested in the rubbish excuses and justifications of oh we cannot control where our tax money is going etc. You cannot but you can control where you live, and you choose to live in a country that is in bed with the zionists and you fund it with your income, all because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to you than the suffering of the Muslim ummah.


That may well all be true...but the thread is not about British Pakistanis, but the ruling coalition parties, PMLN and PPP. Check the thread title and try again.
 
As I said, this thread was created a Brit Pakistani and I will always make sure I show them the mirror and expose their blithering hypocrisy whenever they try to take the moral high ground.

All Brit/US Pakistanis are going to Hell for funding the Palestinian genocide.
Pakistanis are repaying IMF loans, with interest, and still buying oil in USD like everyone else. If we're going to judge people purely by the global monetary system, then by that logic, pretty much the entire world is headed to hell. The system itself is flawed, not just the people caught in it.
 
As I said, this thread was created a Brit Pakistani and I will always make sure I show them the mirror and expose their blithering hypocrisy whenever they try to take the moral high ground.

All Brit/US Pakistanis are going to Hell for funding the Palestinian genocide.


Yes but Pakistan still exists and it has a govt, and they need to deal (or not) with israel regardless of the Brit Pakistanis. They can't show mirrors to people who live in another country, they have to run their own right?
 
As I said, this thread was created a Brit Pakistani and I will always make sure I show them the mirror and expose their blithering hypocrisy whenever they try to take the moral high ground.

All Brit/US Pakistanis are going to Hell for funding the Palestinian genocide.
No, you were exposed on exactly this point a year or so ago and now you're back to peddle more nonsense.

For a doctored you're really not that smart are you?
 
As I said, this thread was created a Brit Pakistani and I will always make sure I show them the mirror and expose their blithering hypocrisy whenever they try to take the moral high ground.

All Brit/US Pakistanis are going to Hell for funding the Palestinian genocide.

That's utter xxxxocks. Islam clearly states to respect the Law of the land, and paying taxes is law. However, What the Government does with Tax payers money is a different kettle of fish. This puts the Governments accountable for any wrong doing.
 
No, you were exposed on exactly this point a year or so ago and now you're back to peddle more nonsense.

For a doctored you're really not that smart are you?
I have to drop 50 IQ points to reply to you. That is how smart I am.

Please expose me again. I am waiting.
 
That's utter xxxxocks. Islam clearly states to respect the Law of the land, and paying taxes is law. However, What the Government does with Tax payers money is a different kettle of fish. This puts the Governments accountable for any wrong doing.
In Islam, there is no concept of nation state and therefore, any law that negatively impacts the Muslim ummah cannot be accepted.

Your justification above will not be accepted when you are thrown into Hell.
 
That may well all be true...but the thread is not about British Pakistanis, but the ruling coalition parties, PMLN and PPP. Check the thread title and try again.
Instinctively he supports criminals and that's why he cant criticism of his rulers. This was guy that spent hours telling how IK crashed the economy- have you heard from him on zero growth, millions leaving PK and the end of the Constitution. @Mamoon
 
I have to drop 50 IQ points to reply to you. That is how smart I am.

Please expose me again. I am waiting.
Were Jews originally from America or the UK?

How many congressmen/women and Parliamentarians hold dual US-UK/Israeli passports?

Now deploy some of that IQ and try to figure out the correlation I'm making between expat Pakistani's and Isreali/Jews that practically control the biggest superpower in the world...

If this isn't enough then I'll give you more example to expose you
 
In Islam, there is no concept of nation state and therefore, any law that negatively impacts the Muslim ummah cannot be accepted.

Your justification above will not be accepted when you are thrown into Hell.
In Islam you accept the laws of the country you live in. Muslims have protested against the evil committed against the Palestinians, you live in PK, can you tell me what happened to Senator Mushtaq and his family. Why did this happen? Please tell us
 
In Islam you accept the laws of the country you live in. Muslims have protested against the evil committed against the Palestinians, you live in PK, can you tell me what happened to Senator Mushtaq and his family. Why did this happen? Please tell us
In Islam, there is no concept of "country". Please try again.

Your excuse will not hold when you are thrown in hellfire.
 
Were Jews originally from America or the UK?

How many congressmen/women and Parliamentarians hold dual US-UK/Israeli passports?

Now deploy some of that IQ and try to figure out the correlation I'm making between expat Pakistani's and Isreali/Jews that practically control the biggest superpower in the world...

If this isn't enough then I'll give you more example to expose you
What does this have to do with the fact that you have chosen to live in a state that funds Israel?

Please expose me. I am still waiting.
 
What does this have to do with the fact that you have chosen to live in a state that funds Israel?

Please expose me. I am still waiting.

What happened to your superior IQ?

Go and figure it out for yourself...
 
The comical irony is that the loudest voices in this thread (along with the OP) are the British Pakistanis who pay taxes to the British government then funds and supplies arms to Israel.

You have a problem with Pakistan recognizing Israel (which they will not) but don’t see the problem with the part that you are playing in funding the genocide.

I am not interested in the rubbish excuses and justifications of oh we cannot control where our tax money is going etc. You cannot but you can control where you live, and you choose to live in a country that is in bed with the zionists and you fund it with your income, all because enjoying the privileges of living in a first world western country is more important to you than the suffering of the Muslim ummah.

Bro the simplest answer is that the Muslim Ummah does not exist. Never has and never will so it is just a figment of our imagination..

Yes agree the Western World funds foreign entities that are harming Muslims. But Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE or even Pakistan are no knights in shining armor either because we also harm Muslims ourselves with Western Weapons (Kurds, War on Yemen, Bunyan Marsoos etc.). And neither was anyone in the Middle East rushing to Irans aid during their recent war..

Every country has skeletons in their closet so be happy and pursue the best opportunity that is right for you and your family - wherever that may be..
 
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Bro the simplest answer is that the Muslim Ummah does not exist. Never has and never will so it is just a figment of our imagination..

Yes agree the Western World funds foreign entities that are harming Muslims. But Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE or even Pakistan are no knights in shining armor either because we also harm Muslims ourselves with Western Weapons (Kurds, War on Yemen, Bunyan Marsoos etc.). And neither was anyone in the Middle East rushing to Irans aid during their recent war..

Every country has skeletons in their closet so be happy and pursue the best opportunity that is right for you and your family - wherever that may be..
I totally agree with you. My problem is with these Brit Pakistanis who act like saints and question the morality of others. They will be shown the mirror when they do so.
 
Bewal iran is rounding up 4 million Afghans

It has imprisoned many accusing them of being israeli spies

Any comment


Since you were jumping up and down when pakistan wanted to deport Afghans.
 
Bewal iran is rounding up 4 million Afghans

It has imprisoned many accusing them of being israeli spies

Any comment


Since you were jumping up and down when pakistan wanted to deport Afghans.
And it's wrong. We aren't afraid to call when Muslim countries get it wrong. But they didnt have to go through the kitchen of the White House to stay in power.
Btw
Where is your reply on Sajid Tarrar? Don't tell me you will go tuss again because the crooked Establishment has destroyed your paid narrative 🤣🤣
 
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I totally agree with you. My problem is with these Brit Pakistanis who act like saints and question the morality of others. They will be shown the mirror when they do so.
It makes no difference if I am the best or Worst person. You have no answers to the questions raised. Senator Mushtaq was arrested and had a relative murdered. Do you think he deserved his punishment for supporting the Palestinians.
 
What does this have to do with the fact that you have chosen to live in a state that funds Israel?

Please expose me. I am still waiting.
Who funds PK? The IMF and who funds the IMF? So this desperate attempt to divert works for illiterate but should you know better?
 
In Islam, there is no concept of "country". Please try again.

Your excuse will not hold when you are thrown in hellfire.
You are playing with words and showing ignorance. You can call it country or empire or whatever else you want to call it. You can call non Muslim lands but the net impact is the same.
 
You are playing with words and showing ignorance. You can call it country or empire or whatever else you want to call it. You can call non Muslim lands but the net impact is the same.
Tell that to the angels of Hell when they open the doors of hell for you.
 
Who funds PK? The IMF and who funds the IMF? So this desperate attempt to divert works for illiterate but should you know better?
I don’t care who funds Pakistan or where my tax money goes. Couldn’t care less. However, when Brit Pakistanis act holier than thou, I will expose their hypocrisy.
 
Wonder how many Pakistani generals. Military men, corrupt and nurderous politicians pay tax to the UK? The stamp duty alone would be considerable then you have some that practically run the country living here in the UK..

But let's ignore the hypocrisy as a murderous cabal of crooks that have bled the country are better then people who actually care for it
 
Wonder how many Pakistani generals. Military men, corrupt and nurderous politicians pay tax to the UK? The stamp duty alone would be considerable then you have some that practically run the country living here in the UK..

But let's ignore the hypocrisy as a murderous cabal of crooks that have bled the country are better then people who actually care for it
But who told you that you are amongst those who care for Pakistan? If you did, you would be living in Pakistan. Your kids would be growing up in Pakistan.

Two generations from now, your bloodline will not even identify with Pakistan. It will just be as country that their ancestors came from, just like how European Americans today don’t care about their Irish or Polish lineage.

Is this is your love and care for Pakistan? How laughable.
 
Ms Nawaz responded to the remarks during a speech, saying: "My son [Junaid] is the polo team captain [for Cambridge University] and is bringing honour to Pakistan.

"He is Nawaz Sharif's grandson, not Goldsmith's, and he is not being raised in the lap of Jews."


Jemima Goldsmith, the former wife of Pakistan cricket star-turned-prime minister Imran Khan, with whom she had two children, left the country more than 15 years ago after what she described as "a decade of antisemitic attacks".

You can be a Jewish if you have one parent who is jewish

In islam your descent kaum is your father's blood in jewish they allow father and mother so even if your father is non jewish but the mother is jewish the child is jewish


And everyone knows goldsmith is ashkenazi zionist jewish family and together with their cousins the rotschilds helped create israel.

Now these youthias are now saying goldsmith and jemimah are not jewish or zionist origin lol and they are calling nawaz and munir zionist agents .
The Polo masters… the so called saviours absolutely adore fools like this… avenfield flat no.3 is now in the works! 🤦‍♂️ 😂
 
But who told you that you are amongst those who care for Pakistan? If you did, you would be living in Pakistan. Your kids would be growing up in Pakistan.

Two generations from now, your bloodline will not even identify with Pakistan. It will just be as country that their ancestors came from, just like how European Americans today don’t care about their Irish or Polish lineage.

Is this is your love and care for Pakistan? How laughable.
Non resident Pakistanis are those who send remittances back and support the resident population and economy. They will always be Pakistani whether people like you like it or otherwise.

Its the same the world over. They left due to whatever factor was involved at the time. What would be the story once remittances are zero..
They dont want red carpet, only for the country to be rid of the injustices and corruption that has plagued the nation since Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s passing..
 
But who told you that you are amongst those who care for Pakistan? If you did, you would be living in Pakistan. Your kids would be growing up in Pakistan.

Two generations from now, your bloodline will not even identify with Pakistan. It will just be as country that their ancestors came from, just like how European Americans today don’t care about their Irish or Polish lineage.

Is this is your love and care for Pakistan? How laughable.
So you have gone and exposed yourself 😂

Now go read my earlier post re Isreal/US-UK dual nationality...
 
I wonder why these posters who supposedly live in Pakistan don't want to discuss their current leadership?

All we hear is Immy Dimmy Jimmy chants, or now they want to discuss tax contributions of British Pakistanis.

Does your own government not matter to you?
Apparently it's not convenient and they don't care when not convenient. They made Munir walk through the kitchen to agree to all their demands so he avoids the dodgy crate of Mangoes.
 
Tell that to the angels of Hell when they open the doors of hell for you.
I will but what about you? A guy that supported the terrible crimes against his own countryman and women because they didnt agree with your politics of hate against IK. How will you justify his torture? How will you justify Dr Yasmin being held 3 years without any trial? Or the murder of innocent PKs in their 100s. Son you better have you answers ready
 
Why does Imran want his Jewish sons to return to Pakistan? What will they do here? Can anyone explain please.

I hope they have learnt a lick of Urdu by now.
 
Why does Imran want his Jewish sons to return to Pakistan? What will they do here? Can anyone explain please.

I hope they have learnt a lick of Urdu by now.
What point are you trying to make, is it gloating because Imran Khan only has his family to rely on? Is it because he is jailed and nobody can do anything?

Pakistanis at home have a weird grasp on politics. Explains why the same idiots keep coming to power.
 
Why does Imran want his Jewish sons to return to Pakistan? What will they do here? Can anyone explain please.

I hope they have learnt a lick of Urdu by now.
To overthrow Hafiz and implement Jewish supremacy in Pakistan.

Once Hafiz's regime falls, Hebrew will be the official language soon enough.
 
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