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What will be the outcome of the South Africa vs Pakistan Test series?

What will be the outcome of the South Africa vs Pakistan Test series?

  • South Africa 3-0 Pakistan

    Votes: 62 63.9%

  • South Africa 2-1 Pakistan

    Votes: 18 18.6%

  • South Africa 2-0 Pakistan

    Votes: 5 5.2%

  • South Africa 1-0 Pakistan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • South Africa 1-1 Pakistan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • South Africa 0-0 Pakistan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • South Africa 0-1 Pakistan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • South Africa 0-2 Pakistan

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • South Africa 1-2 Pakistan

    Votes: 5 5.2%

  • South Africa 0-3 Pakistan

    Votes: 6 6.2%
  • Total voters
    97
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Mickey Arthur reckons that Pakistan will win if they play well.

That's quite a caveat though :ma
 
Hmm . After watching Steyn bowl recently and the way Pakistan have played I can't think of any result other than 3-0 SA.
 
3-0 South Africa. Bring it on.

Figures for Philander: -

7-12 & 6-32, 2-23& 9-11, 8-21 & 3-11
 
I feel that our bowlers alone can win us one Test.
 
3-0 SA unless rains for a couple of days in a few tests.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
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Pakistani bowlers have always struggled against Smith, Amla, Ab, but 2 of them aren’t there and 1 is out of form. I back our bowlers to knock’em down and if Faheem plays we’ll have a longer batting line up which will dismantle the overrated Rabada.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Pakistani bowlers have always struggled against Smith, Amla, Ab, but 2 of them aren’t there and 1 is out of form. I back our bowlers to knock’em down and if Faheem plays we’ll have a longer batting line up which will dismantle the overrated Rabada.
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Alright. Please be here at the end of the series brother. :srini
 
Everybody knows in their hearts, nobody wants to say it or come to terms with it.

Today is Jummah, happy thoughts, and good wishes. Dream big, that's what South africa should be doing.

We got some nice recruits 2 of whom might make or break our expedition. One is a proven X factor in Rizwan the other is a clutch finals winner, Amir.

Let's do this. #ProteaFire, #GreenStorm , #Iamlegend
 
If the wickets are anywhere close to the ones in the India series, we are in for the record for the lowest totals in one series. Our batsmen are hopeless and this is the first series after a long time, I'm really hopeless about.
 
South Africa pitches have some juice. So Pakistan bowlers might snatch a win. So 2-1
 
Nailed on 3-0 South Africa.

Two sub-100 totals from Pakistan.
 
2-1 SAF. We will win one match due to individual brilliance by one of the pacers.
 
Pakistan should win a Test series in South Africa

Pak tour of SA starts in few days.This SA team is the weakest of this decade.
No AB Devillers, Steyn is injury prone, Amla is out of touch.
Pak has a very good bowling unit and have batsmen who can play patiently.Also yasir Shah is much experienced than Maharaj.
Pak should win 2 test matches atleast ans win the series by 3-0 or 2-0 to this SA team.
 
Pakistan has the best chance for a subcontinental side to win a test series in South Africa
 
SA will win 2-1, without AB I feel they can be embarrassed by Pak quicks in one of the tests. That is if Abbas plays, if he misses out Pak will suffer a whitewash.
 
2-1 to RSA. I feel we'll win a match thanks to our bowling.
 
Pakistan will be lucky to scrape through without an embarrassing whitewash.
 
Pakistan will surprise us, as usual when nothing is expected out of them.
 
3-0 to SA unfortunately. The way we played in UAE, we are likely to get out under 150 in each 6 innings with innings defeats in 2 games at least.
 
If Pakistan was going through a great run I would have backed them to win one test at the least and lose 1-2 overall as is customary for Suncontinental sides to capitulate in RSA on their seaming tracks.

But they are in fact going through a very bad run. Sorry if it sounds bad i am expecting some serious thrashing and it would take some effort to avoid a whitewash.

South Africa on the other hand might just have slightly improved from where they were last time India played them.
 
Pakistan will get thrashed. If Pakistan are to be successful in the tour, then our bowlers will need to get our batsman reachable runs. It will be similarly to the ODI series in NZ. If our bowlers can acclimatize to the conditions then our batsman should be competent enough to get some runs.
 
Good thing for Pak is that most people have written them off. This is when they play their best cricket.

Its not like we are toothless. We have Abbass, Yasir, Babar, Fakhar. These guys are capable.
 
To stand a chance to win a single match, Pakistan needs Abbas and Fakhar to be fully fit and hope for a couple of injuries to the SA squad.
 
3-0 South Africa easily. If this were in the UAE i might think different but now way we achieve anything on their turf
 
Even this series was held in UAE. I'm sure SouthAfricans are going to beat us there too
 
It is not as simple as 3-0 to SA as some people r predicting imo both teams have average batting. Bowling will decide who will win. Imo if shaheen gets a bouncy pitch he will be very difficult to play. Also SA dnt have quality spinners yasir/shadab will give Pak huge advantage
 
If pakistan somehow manages to draw a test without a rain intervention , i will consider it a big surprise.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
If Pakistan was going through a great run I would have backed them to win one test at the least and lose 1-2 overall as is customary for Suncontinental sides to capitulate in RSA on their seaming tracks.

But they are in fact going through a very bad run. Sorry if it sounds bad i am expecting some serious thrashing and it would take some effort to avoid a whitewash.

South Africa on the other hand might just have slightly improved from where they were last time India played them.
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Given that the top scorer for SA in the India series has retired, why do you think SA has improved?
 
gazza619 said:
Good thing for Pak is that most people have written them off. This is when they play their best cricket.

Its not like we are toothless. We have Abbass, Yasir, Babar, Fakhar. These guys are capable.
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That is true. Will be good to see a South Asian team doing well in a SENA country. Good luck.
 
If we manage to win a game (even if it is the 3rd: it will be a huge achievement).

Voted for a 0-3 phainta for us btw.
 
This “we are at our best when we are written off” is just another myth associated with Pakistan cricket.

We have been written off in places like Australia for decades and we continue to prove why that is the case.

All this cornered tigers nonsense is just foolish romanticism to deflect attention from the fact that we cannot beat the top teams regularly, and we cannot do that because we are not good enough.

Since we are an average team, we are not expected to win against better sides. However, if we win the odd game, it does not mean that we are cornered tigers or that unpredictable or mercurial bla bla crap.

Those are just buzzwords for not being good enough to win consistently, and it is nothing to take pride in.

Having said that, upsets in Test cricket are very hard to achieve. It is not about having one good day or one good period of play; you have to outperform your opponents over 5 days and we cannot do that with our rubbish batsmen against the best pace attack in the world (along with Australia) in their conditions.

Our bowling itself is ordinary - Yasir will hardly be a game changer in South Africa even if he bowls well, Amir is well Amir, Hasan is decent at best. Shaheen is too inexperienced and Shadab and Faheem are so overrated.

We have put all our eggs in Abbas’ basket for this series, and although he has been excellent and should be able to utilize those conditions, we should not forget that he is only 12 Tests old and the New Zealand batsmen showed that he can be neutralized.

In terms of taking wickets, he was completely ineffective against them. The South African batsman may as well blunt him because of the Philander factor. Nonetheless, even if he does well, it is not going to change the outcome of the series because of our deplorable batting.

3-0 to South Africa it should be, and 3-0 it will be. Any other outcome, be it 2-0 or 2-1 to South Africa, would be an achievement for this third rate team.

Don’t even think about 1-1 or 1-2 to Pakistan, because that would rank amongst the biggest achievements in history of Pakistan Test cricket.
 
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SA should be disappointed if they don't win 3-0. The middle order is no doubt weak but they have still got two good openers for SA conditions and bowling is still one of the best in the world.

It is SA bowling I will bank on and Pakistan batting is terrible to say the least.

The only thing SA should be wary of is a couple of random spells of Pakistani fast bowlers which at times can be so destructive that can rip through the SA batting lineup.
 
Mamoon said:
This “we are at our best when we are written off” is just another myth associated with Pakistan cricket.

We have been written off in places like Australia for decades and we continue to prove why that is the case.

All this cornered tigers nonsense is just foolish romanticism to deflect attention from the fact that we cannot beat the top teams regularly, and we cannot do that because we are not good enough.

Since we are an average team, we are not expected to win against better sides. However, if we win the odd game, it does not mean that we are cornered tigers or that unpredictable or mercurial bla bla crap.

Those are just buzzwords for not being good enough to win consistently, and it is nothing to take pride in.

Having said that, upsets in Test cricket are very hard to achieve. It is not about having one good day or one good period of play; you have to outperform your opponents over 5 days and we cannot do that with our rubbish batsmen against the best pace attack in the world (along with Australia) in their conditions.

Our bowling itself is ordinary - Yasir will hardly be a game changer in South Africa even if he bowls well, Amir is well Amir, Hasan is decent at best. Shaheen is too inexperienced and Shadab and Faheem are so overrated.

We have put all our eggs in Abbas’ basket for this series, and although he has been excellent and should be able to utilize those conditions, we should not forget that he is only 12 Tests old and the New Zealand batsmen showed that he can be neutralized.

In terms of taking wickets, he was completely ineffective against them. The South African batsman may as well blunt him because of the Philander factor. Nonetheless, even if he does well, it is not going to change the outcome of the series because of our deplorable batting.

3-0 to South Africa it should be, and 3-0 it will be. Any other outcome, be it 2-0 or 2-1 to South Africa, would be an achievement for this third rate team.

Don’t even think about 1-1 or 1-2 to Pakistan, because that would rank amongst the biggest achievements in history of Pakistan Test cricket.
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Agreed. My expectations are super low for this seris
 
Get Elgar early, SA batsman are pretty hopless theyv got 1/2 collapses in them in the series.
 
Sorry but gotta go with a whitewash. We may even play well for sessions but our inability to take those chances in key moments means we wont be able to win. If we draw a match and compete in another I'll take that. For now 3-0 bashing coming and then the tamasha after the series..
 
Pakistan should do reasonably well in South Africa. I don’t see the South Africans posting large totals against Pakistan on those green tracks and Pakistan’s style of batting, which is a bit negative at times might just work there. I feel people are overrating SA’s batting here.
 
Pak should do better than us. ABD "the main difference" has retired. Morkel lungi are also out.
 
Ab Fan said:
SA should be disappointed if they don't win 3-0. The middle order is no doubt weak but they have still got two good openers for SA conditions and bowling is still one of the best in the world.

It is SA bowling I will bank on and Pakistan batting is terrible to say the least.

The only thing SA should be wary of is a couple of random spells of Pakistani fast bowlers which at times can be so destructive that can rip through the SA batting lineup.
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It's amazing how unfair we are on our bowling attack, time and again. The batting continues to be useless for pretty much every game, yet the only aspect keeping this team competitive is the bowling attack.

I'm expecting Pakistan to be massacred, but hoping to see a good bowling spell or two from our bowlers.
 
Hope they make a game of it & don’t embarrass the nation, pak are finding new ways of losing test matches.

Very very poor team having leads of 70+ & still getting hammered.
 
3-0, to hosts.

One innings defeat and one 180+ runs defeat in the pipeline.

Hence, Sarfraz will step down and Asad/Babar will be made captain.
 
I have given it 2-1 to Pakistan. Could be 1-2 defeat as well.

Understand the doom and gloom - but the bowling is good, fielding as good as it has ever been and batting is OK.

NZ tests have no bearing on SA series. Team will play with a free mind - no expectations. Just need to put 250 on the board.
 
If we avoid inning defeat in all the Test matches it'll be an achievement for this team.
 
3-0 saffers but if Pak are competitive throughout then it will be a huge achievement. Let's not forget how young and inexperienced this side is.
 
Pakistan is an unpredictable team and if they bring cornered tiger attitude then result may surprise many PPers.
 
It seems like a battle of the bowling attacks. Hopefully somebody like Babar can step up. One batsman performing makes a huge diffrence.
 
Difficult series but Pakistan have a few things in their favour going in to the tour:

1) It's SA's first Test of the season and often we see it's difficult for players to get in to the rhythm after a long break.

2) Abbas and Amir - On the last tour Junaid and Irfan wasted the new ball bowling just a little too short but both Amir and Abbas have got experience bowling well in England and if they go for the same lengths here, they should be more successful.

3) Yasir Shah/Shadab Khan - both are fine leg spinners and I reckon the South African's have struggled with spin in the past. On the last tour not only did Ajmal get a 5-for but I recall Hafeez managed to surprise them with 4 wickets in the first innings of the first Test.

4) Micky Arthur - Hopefully his experience as their previous coach and knowledge of SA conditions can help Pakistan prepare a bit better than before.

5) Assuming Shan and Imam open, the top order has 3 left handers including Harris and even though the batting is frail, Steyn has been less successful against left handers compared with right handers.

A lot of things need to click for Pakistan (and the slip catching has to be near perfect) but I'm always optimistic so I think I'll vote 2-1 or 2-0 :)
 
3-0 to South Africa way ahead in the poll.

I've gone for 2-0.
 
Mamoon said:
This “we are at our best when we are written off” is just another myth associated with Pakistan cricket.

We have been written off in places like Australia for decades and we continue to prove why that is the case.

All this cornered tigers nonsense is just foolish romanticism to deflect attention from the fact that we cannot beat the top teams regularly, and we cannot do that because we are not good enough.

Since we are an average team, we are not expected to win against better sides. However, if we win the odd game, it does not mean that we are cornered tigers or that unpredictable or mercurial bla bla crap.

Those are just buzzwords for not being good enough to win consistently, and it is nothing to take pride in.

Having said that, upsets in Test cricket are very hard to achieve. It is not about having one good day or one good period of play; you have to outperform your opponents over 5 days and we cannot do that with our rubbish batsmen against the best pace attack in the world (along with Australia) in their conditions.

Our bowling itself is ordinary - Yasir will hardly be a game changer in South Africa even if he bowls well, Amir is well Amir, Hasan is decent at best. Shaheen is too inexperienced and Shadab and Faheem are so overrated.

We have put all our eggs in Abbas’ basket for this series, and although he has been excellent and should be able to utilize those conditions, we should not forget that he is only 12 Tests old and the New Zealand batsmen showed that he can be neutralized.

In terms of taking wickets, he was completely ineffective against them. The South African batsman may as well blunt him because of the Philander factor. Nonetheless, even if he does well, it is not going to change the outcome of the series because of our deplorable batting.

3-0 to South Africa it should be, and 3-0 it will be. Any other outcome, be it 2-0 or 2-1 to South Africa, would be an achievement for this third rate team.

Don’t even think about 1-1 or 1-2 to Pakistan, because that would rank amongst the biggest achievements in history of Pakistan Test cricket.
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Man you are the most pessimistic person I have come across. That being said yea we are going to get thrashed 3-0 and probably by an innings in each game.
 
charlie007 said:
I see more blessings without disguises coming Pakistan's way.
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Agreed. Finall Sarfaraz will step down. And I hope that Rizwan will replace him as the preferred keeper batsman. He seems to be in good List A form. No idea if he can replicate that in tests but surely he has got to be better than Sarfaraz with the bat.

Second thing to look forward to is finally both Imam and Shaan will be discovered as being completely useless. Might be that the door to test cricket finally gets shut on their faces.
 
Ilustcricket said:
Agreed. Finall Sarfaraz will step down. And I hope that Rizwan will replace him as the preferred keeper batsman. He seems to be in good List A form. No idea if he can replicate that in tests but surely he has got to be better than Sarfaraz with the bat.

Second thing to look forward to is finally both Imam and Shaan will be discovered as being completely useless. Might be that the door to test cricket finally gets shut on their faces.
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Sarfraz would have to have a performance on the level of Mitch Johnson vs England in 2013/14 in this series for him to be still in the team and captaining. I don't hate the guy, but it can't be denied that he's walking on some seriously thin ice in regards to form.
 
Very confident predictions of a 0-3 loss for Pakistan in this poll.
 
Pakistan 3-0. Anything less against this weak SA team will be disappointing.
 
Buffet said:
Pakistan 3-0. Anything less against this weak SA team will be disappointing.
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That would be nice, but can’t see it being any different to the outcome normally after a Pak test series against a ‘proper’ team — humiliating defeats, followed by calls from some former players to drop oldies and bring youngsters, while other former players will say there’s no need to panic and make knee jerk changes , same old same old, nothing changes
 
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