What will PCB achieve if PSL is held in Lahore WITHOUT foreign players/media?

[cricwiz]

Q1. Can anyone tell me what PCB and government of Pakistan is going to achieve if foreign players refuse to play in Lahore (same goes for foreign commentators and team staff as well)? Suppose (and hopefully) everything goes according to plan and PSL final is held successfully. Will this all achieve anything for the future?

Q2. Once PCB brings the PSL final to Lahore, it will be hard for them to move final out of Pakistan. Instead there will be calls to bring playoffs also to Pakistan. If foreign players refuse to come this time - Isn't PCB setting here a bad bad precedent that in coming years foreign players will keep saying that we cannot attend final in Pakistan and PCB won't be able to do anything?

Q3. If God forbid anything bad happens, have PCB thought about the consequences?

 

[Varun]

I can see an angle where it is set in stone that the final of every PSL is held in Lahore, and those foreign players who chicken out of the previous year's may receive a lesser premium at the next year's auction, say.

Obviously it is a decision taken looking at the long term.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Its stupid decision, and it will effect PSL 2018 draft. but punjab govt dont give a damn.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Nooras can brag about it. Look Lahore ke security kitne achi hain PSL bhi yahan hua.

 

[Jabo]

NOThing

 

[Varun]

I can see an angle where it is set in stone that the final of every PSL is held in Lahore, and those foreign players who chicken out of the previous year's may receive a lesser premium at the next year's auction, say.

Obviously it is a decision taken looking at the long term.

To add to this, they can then slowly hold more such games in Pakistan. Maybe the finals and the semi-finals one season, before transitioning the entire event to Pakistan as the years go by. It ain't a bad ploy if indeed the PCB are thinking on those lines.

 

[cricwiz]

I can see an angle where it is set in stone that the final of every PSL is held in Lahore, and those foreign players who chicken out of the previous year's may receive a lesser premium at the next year's auction, say.

Obviously it is a decision taken looking at the long term.

I am not at all against moving PSL to Pakistan, but everyone knows the fact that moving PSL to Pakistan is going to be an irreversible process... Had the government been proactive and started operation against terrorists a month earlier + took security of the city much seriously (they had intelligence reports of some suicide bombers trying to come to the city) - things would have been much different and many of the foreign players would have been considering to visit Pakistan. At this point of time if foreign players refuse to visit - they are well within their right to do so. So I do not think that those players will receive less premium next year.

The thought of holding PSL final in Pakistan was brought back after a series of peaceful months - but the complacency by the government has ruined everything for now. So best decision was to make efforts to make Pakistan peaceful first (in the real sense) and destroy terrorist sleeping networks within the cities (sleeper cells etc)...

 

[Major]

If psl final is held in pakistan, this is an achievement for pakistan.

The enemies of pakistan did these blasts so that the psl final shouldnt happen here. By doing the final here you are sensing out a message to the enemies.

This is like a moral victory for our country and moral defeat for the enemies

 

[Major]

Nooras can brag about it. Look Lahore ke security kitne achi hain PSL bhi yahan hua.

Did nooras ever bragged about the zimbabwe series in lahore?

So why make such statements up?

 

[Pakpak]

If psl final is held in pakistan, this is an achievement for pakistan.

The enemies of pakistan did these blasts so that the psl final shouldnt happen here. By doing the final here you are sensing out a message to the enemies.

This is like a moral victory for our country and moral defeat for the enemies

Did nooras ever bragged about the zimbabwe series in lahore?

So why make such statements up?

Sharam se hee mar jai aadmi, waisay.

 

[Major]

Its stupid decision, and it will effect PSL 2018 draft. but punjab govt dont give a damn.

How so?

The psl management before hand said final will be in pakistan.

Foreign players are after money, psl managment lets everyone know in advance where the psl will take place

 

[MenInG]

If it goes Ok, it will be a little thank you for the people of Pakistan who have supported this league in UAE

IF not, then international cricket is finished for many many years

 

[proud_pakistani]

In my opinion they should have held some of the league games in Pakistan. Each team shud hv played at least one game in Pakistan. To me financially this wud be better as 3-5 games wud be held in Pakistan which wud mean more ticket money. Foreign players wud be left out in max 1-2 games if they decided to and it would not hurt the product too much. Lastly, saying the final to be held in Pakistan attracts a lot more attention then a few league games being held. Now foreign players not playing in the final game is really not good and really is a loss to the product.

 

[Lonewarrior]

How so?

The psl management before hand said final will be in pakistan.

Foreign players are after money, psl managment lets everyone know in advance where the psl will take place

which foreign players is ready to come for final in lahore ? can you give me any name plz ?

 

[Major]

If it goes Ok, it will be a little thank you for the people of Pakistan who have supported this league in UAE

IF not, then international cricket is finished for many many years

International cricket is not going to happen either way. Even if this final happens, we wont have proper cricket in pakistan.

Thats due to law and order.

So either way, having these finals and few good games gives us hope of restoring something back to order

 

[cricwiz]

If psl final is held in pakistan, this is an achievement for pakistan.

The enemies of pakistan did these blasts so that the psl final shouldnt happen here. By doing the final here you are sensing out a message to the enemies.

This is like a moral victory for our country and moral defeat for the enemies

There could be MANY ways to do so...

e.g. an exhibition match between the finalists in Lahore (inviting some foreign guests who are willing to come anyway), some mega celebration event for PSL 2 success etc...

 

[Major]

which foreign players is ready to come for final in lahore ? can you give me any name plz ?

I never said anything about any foreign player coming to pakistan.

If psl is held in pakistan or dubai, everyone is told about this before hand.

Players will make themselves availible for draft if matches are held in dubai as its easy money plus for guys like duckett its good way to get in the national circles

 

[Mamoon]

Nothing, it's a pointless exercise with high risk but low reward.

 

[Syed1]

They are shutting down the ENTIRE AREA two days prior to the match.

That would surely send the signal of peace and security to the outside world. Nothing screams security more than empty streets and forced closure of business.


PML-N Zindabad.

 

[cricwiz]

I never said anything about any foreign player coming to pakistan.

If psl is held in pakistan or dubai, everyone is told about this before hand.

Players will make themselves availible for draft if matches are held in dubai as its easy money plus for guys like duckett its good way to get in the national circles

Before the blasts happened in Pakistan, there was chance that SOME foreign players won't be coming to Pakistan. After the blasts, things have changed drastically and now MOST/ALL foreign players may be saying NO... And if that happens, its only going to bring negative rating points for PSL - as it will only sell the msg that PSL in Pakistan is not safe for foreign players

 

[hur rizvi]

Did nooras ever bragged about the zimbabwe series in lahore?

So why make such statements up?

Because their own minister announced a blast near Gaddafi when match was going on b/w Pak/Zim

 

[MRSN]

It will only have negatives effects on PSL in the long term. not the most rational decision from Sethi and co.

 

[the Great Khan]

If it goes Ok, it will be a little thank you for the people of Pakistan who have supported this league in UAE

IF not, then international cricket is finished for many many years

massive risk considering what happened recently. Before that week i was all for it but now our enemy is chomping at the bit to ensure this final takes place so they can sabotage it!! I'm really worried about this one!

 

[mhraja]

If psl final is held in pakistan, this is an achievement for pakistan.

The enemies of pakistan did these blasts so that the psl final shouldnt happen here. By doing the final here you are sensing out a message to the enemies.

This is like a moral victory for our country and moral defeat for the enemies

If an enemy is firing at our children while they are playing in the garden. We will call the children in and try to hit back at the enemy. Once it's peaceful we would allow children back in the garden.

We can't ask our children to keep playing as it will be moral victory for us.

We need to solve the terrorism issue rather than looking for the moral victories.

 

[cricwiz]

They are shutting down the ENTIRE AREA two days prior to the match.

That would surely send the signal of peace and security to the outside world. Nothing screams security more than empty streets and forced closure of business.


PML-N Zindabad.

You mean entire Lahore / entire Punjab / entire Pakistan ? There is an operation against terrorists going on in Pakistan after these recent blasts - and its a nation-wide operation. My worry is that these terrorists will try to take revenge by doing their terrorist activities in any part of Pakistan - not necessarily in 5 km vicinity of stadium. The problem with these "brave" terrorists is that they always take lives of poor citizens (who are roaming around in streets). When all Pakistan security apparatus will be trying to protect some 5-6 km radius around the stadium OR at max trying to protect Lahore - all the other parts of Pakistan (especially Punjab) will be at high risk - as these terrorists will be looking for soft targets.

 

[cricketerB94]

The decision has been made. Mixed emotions, but lets see what it brings.
Hoping for the best.

 

[The_Odd_One]

They are shutting down the ENTIRE AREA two days prior to the match.

That would surely send the signal of peace and security to the outside world. Nothing screams security more than empty streets and forced closure of business.


PML-N Zindabad.

Why don't they also place 2 armored body guards with each fielder?

 

[phoenix363]

What will we achieve? A huge amount of publicity and credibility for pulling this off in the midst of a difficult time. International players will come, at least a few and that's all we need.

In fact, it is even more impactful for them to go ahead despite the recent attacks as it shows they are extremely serious about the level of security they can provide and are confident they can handle the risks. The army chiefs and senior people making this decision will not take it lightly, especially for a huge event like this which is under so much scrutiny for all quarters. And you might be surprised to hear this, but they know a little bit more about security and maintaining order than the posters on this site although some appear to be experts from reading a few news reports. (The fact that they are corrupt, and do not do their job properly meaning the country is in a mess the majority of the time is irrelevant because this is a one off special occasion).

 

[The_Odd_One]

If psl final is held in pakistan, this is an achievement for pakistan.

The enemies of pakistan did these blasts so that the psl final shouldnt happen here. By doing the final here you are sensing out a message to the enemies.

This is like a moral victory for our country and moral defeat for the enemies

They did not do the blast to stop PSL final from happening in Lahore. They did it to stop foreign players from participating in it.

PSL final without foreign players will be like Faisal bank T20 final. There is no moral victory here.

 

[Major]

If an enemy is firing at our children while they are playing in the garden. We will call the children in and try to hit back at the enemy. Once it's peaceful we would allow children back in the garden.

We can't ask our children to keep playing as it will be moral victory for us.

We need to solve the terrorism issue rather than looking for the moral victories.

This is not as simple as you put it.

The recent blasts that took place happened because they wanted psl not to happened.

If psl final doesnt happened, they win, and these guys will get motivation from this.

Final(one match) could happen with security right now.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Sunset+Vine have refused to travel to Pak. Ptv will most likely broadcast the final

 

[moghul]

This time without foreign players, next time with them, its a first step, nothing wrong with this.

 

[MRSN]

Sunset+Vine have refused to travel to Pak. Ptv will most likely broadcast the final

this is so foolish. PSL will definitely lose the most out of this pathetic and egoistic decision.

 

[Pakpak]

Sunset+Vine have refused to travel to Pak. Ptv will most likely broadcast the final

Terrible. Me and you have better cameras than PTV.

 

[JaDed]

Sometimes a decision needs to be made because of the impact of its nature ,its not always about doing the right or sensible thing but something that can have a positive impact.

PCB will achieve what they promised the final being n Lahore,it will atleast bring hope that someday PSL will be completely played in Pakistan.

 

[F0ulu]

With such exhaustive dissipation of limited police resources, and compromising security of the rest of Lahore for a day, that too with foreign players not having been there either..
There is so little to gain from it.
I think the cake aint worth the candle.

 

[Hawkeye]

I can see an angle where it is set in stone that the final of every PSL is held in Lahore, and those foreign players who chicken out of the previous year's may receive a lesser premium at the next year's auction, say.

Obviously it is a decision taken looking at the long term.

I see where you're coming from.

However, it's still a very high risk decision. It's not only about chance of some unfortunate incident. It's going to affect next year's PSL and inclusion of foreign players.

Do you think big names of international cricket will sign up for PSL, knowing they might be forced to travel to the country for the final/semi-final?

It can backfire. There may be a reward for this too, if nothing goes wrong, but the risk is also very high.

 

[cricwiz]

As I feared while opening this thread... foreign players have started to refuse to come to Pakistan. Already the foreign media and broadcasting company announced it a day or so ago.

Now the first team has qualified for the final, and guess what nearly all their foreign contingent has decided not to travel to Lahore. Just image what will foreign players from 2nd finalist team will now do? Already the precedence has been set by 1st finalist foreign players. Won't the other team's foreign players follow suit??

So WITHOUT foreign players participation (i.e. the ones who took part in PSL), what will the PCB achieve here? Isn't the five tier security plan there in place for foreign players?

I am highly doubtful if PCB even shared this so called 5 tier security plan with the foreign players individually. Remember, there was security threat in Bangladesh sometime ago and English team were unsure. Instead of giving assurances on media ONLY, BCB took concrete steps i.e. showed all security measures to England security managers expert (not virtual tour but physical tour). And made them totally satisfied. After such extensive security plan and satisfaction of security team, English team came (even though it gave option to all players to opt out if they wish, but majority joined).

Did PCB even do such an exercise except inviting Clarke, who is not a security expert... Did PCB formally invite FICA representative instead of fighting with them on media? Did PCB invite international security experts?

 

[javiersuka]

It will achieve nothing, no foreign teams will tour Pakistan unless daily bombings and other terror activities become a thing of the past.

Nobody wants to visit a country with forcibly closed cities and guarded by 100s of bearded security men with Guns.

 

[wrongun]

As I feared while opening this thread... foreign players have started to refuse to come to Pakistan. Already the foreign media and broadcasting company announced it a day or so ago.

Now the first team has qualified for the final, and guess what nearly all their foreign contingent has decided not to travel to Lahore. Just image what will foreign players from 2nd finalist team will now do? Already the precedence has been set by 1st finalist foreign players. Won't the other team's foreign players follow suit??

So WITHOUT foreign players participation (i.e. the ones who took part in PSL), what will the PCB achieve here? Isn't the five tier security plan there in place for foreign players?

I am highly doubtful if PCB even shared this so called 5 tier security plan with the foreign players individually. Remember, there was security threat in Bangladesh sometime ago and English team were unsure. Instead of giving assurances on media ONLY, BCB took concrete steps i.e. showed all security measures to England security managers expert (not virtual tour but physical tour). And made them totally satisfied. After such extensive security plan and satisfaction of security team, English team came (even though it gave option to all players to opt out if they wish, but majority joined).

Did PCB even do such an exercise except inviting Clarke, who is not a security expert... Did PCB formally invite FICA representative instead of fighting with them on media? Did PCB invite international security experts?

Good post. These are the very questions Pakistan media should put to the board and insist on a straight answer.

BCB won approval through thorough professionalism - admittedly in a more generally stable country.
PCB can only achieve by doing the same or more.

 

[Salman]

A PSL final in Pakistan was never going to be of any use to the PCB in bringing back international cricket because it's just not happening.

What the PCB will achieve is 4 hours of real Pakistani public smiling and enjoying top quality cricket on home soil, worth more then it's weight in gold if you ask me!

 

[samiakh]

As expected one of the worst decisions Government and PCB could make. Global press, particularly Indian press of course, having a field day talking about how all foreign players and even commentators and production people not going! Could have waited one more year continued cleaning up the mess and started a campaing much earlier by inviting Security experts to visit by like Oct to assess the situation! Final is going to be huge anti climax!!!

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

In the beginning I too was adamant of having the final back home but just a week ago we've almost lost near 100 innocent lives in multiple blasts and it became clear to me that even now Pakistan ins't safe, just yet, to hold international matches.

 

[cricwiz]

Good post. These are the very questions Pakistan media should put to the board and insist on a straight answer.

BCB won approval through thorough professionalism - admittedly in a more generally stable country.
PCB can only achieve by doing the same or more.

As expected one of the worst decisions Government and PCB could make. Global press, particularly Indian press of course, having a field day talking about how all foreign players and even commentators and production people not going! Could have waited one more year continued cleaning up the mess and started a campaing much earlier by inviting Security experts to visit by like Oct to assess the situation! Final is going to be huge anti climax!!!

PCB unfortunately has set a very very bad precedent by arranging a final like this where most foreigners will sensibly opt out. Why bad precedent, as PCB will have to put 2-3 times more "professional" effort to convince foreign players to play PSL final next year. The only face saving PCB could do next year is inadequate security arrangements due to being the election year and keeping final in UAE - like IPL already did it in their election year..

As far as being professional is being concerned, I think majority here will agree that PCB is most incompetent board when it comes to professionalism. We have virtually 2 chairmans, one is approximately 85 years old and the other one is a political appointee (meaning that he will have to side with political interest of the ruling party - exactly what has happened in this PCB final scenario) - and both only know one way to operate i.e. giving interviews and making bold claims.

Had PCB been professional here, they would not be needing to give statements like - "we will get to know on March 3rd whether foreign players are willing to join or not" - I mean this is just height of professionalism. How many foriegn players are there? 20-25 at max. IF PCB invested half an hour session of individual briefing with every foreign player - telling him about security arrangements in place etc. some of the foreign players would have been willing to go.

But as we all agree, sadly PCB and professionalism are poles apart !!

 

[moghul]

War or peace, final will be played every year in Pakistan, with or without final players. Sooner or later, international cricket will be back in Pakistan. Has to take first step.

 

[moghul]

In the beginning I too was adamant of having the final back home but just a week ago we've almost lost near 100 innocent lives in multiple blasts and it became clear to me that even now Pakistan ins't safe, just yet, to hold international matches.

Every life is precious and a huge loss, but terrorism must be defeated and we can't fulfill their wishlist. Final should be In Pakistan, every year and more and more matches in future.

 

[cricwiz]

War or peace, final will be played every year in Pakistan, with or without final players. Sooner or later, international cricket will be back in Pakistan. Has to take first step.

Sorry, I do not agree with that kind of statement. There needs to be some professionalism involved. Had PCB handled everything professionally and not through media statements, things would have been very very different by now...

There are manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ways of taking first step, without making a mockery of yourself. For example, EVERY year our domestic T20 tournament is being played in Pakistan - but just like this UAE tournament, the whole tournament is arranged in one stadium in Pakistan. As a first thing, why cannot they have tournament being played in 5-6 cities (home and away concept) with providing adequate security in each game. When PCB can arrange such a tournament hassle free, things will start to improve and slowly but steadily, they will regain trust of local and foreign critics.

 

[Abdullah]

To add to this, they can then slowly hold more such games in Pakistan. Maybe the finals and the semi-finals one season, before transitioning the entire event to Pakistan as the years go by. It ain't a bad ploy if indeed the PCB are thinking on those lines.

pointless if no foreigners come

 

[mhraja]

War or peace, final will be played every year in Pakistan, with or without final players. Sooner or later, international cricket will be back in Pakistan. Has to take first step.

You know what, the first step is to clear the mess that we have created. Once done, we don't need to convince anyone to come.

The closest example is Sri Lanka. They had the issues (may be not as big as ours but still), they resolved those issues and promoted the tourism which gave the message that things have become better in the country. Now no one has the issues going to Sri Lanka.

 

[Yatoo]

Sethi ka ego inflate hoga. Aur kuch nai

 

[asma_cricfan]

i don't understand why only lahore.the mere decision taken only by punjab chief minister shehbaz shariff and his political appointees.

it look like a family business as opposed to be a national tournament where all the other cities (city cricket associations) should be consulted.

 

[Hasan Cheema]

PCB sold tickets for roughly over 200 Million Rupees, Enough said

 

[Monsee]

ZILCH will be achieved by this move and any untoward incident and you will be the laughing stock of the world!

Plus, without their top INt'l players, wouldn't the two finalists be playing a normal domestic match that no one should care much about?

 

[hamzie]

This is soooooo bad

People need to stop being deluded and realize the country isnt safe for anyone

just play it in dubai

 

[super hitter]

my point, since nothing is there to achieve, so lets not loose the rhythm after such an amazing tournament.

 

[Monsee]

You know what, the first step is to clear the mess that we have created. Once done, we don't need to convince anyone to come.

The closest example is Sri Lanka. They had the issues (may be not as big as ours but still), they resolved those issues and promoted the tourism which gave the message that things have become better in the country. Now no one has the issues going to Sri Lanka.

You cannot compare the complex mess Pak is in (due to so many players being involved: Pak, Afghans, the parosiites, USA, Russia, Iran etc.) with the past situation in Lanka!

No comparison whatsoever

 

[mhraja]

You cannot compare the complex mess Pak is in (due to so many players being involved: Pak, Afghans, the parosiites, USA, Russia, Iran etc.) with the past situation in Lanka!

No comparison whatsoever

I don't want to get to the political side of it because it's a cricket forum. My point is simple, Sri Lanka had the issues due to which teams were refusing to travel to Sri Lanka (same is happening to us). The issues got resolved and teams started touring Sri Lanka.

Yes, our mess is a lot lot bigger than that but we need to clear the mess and team would start touring. With the mess around we can try what so ever no one would tour.

 

[Monsee]

^^^That mess can only be cleared when all parties (external predominantly) stop messing with peace in Pak! A much tougher ask for anyone, let alone the corrupt goons from the main 2 parties

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

PCB sold tickets for roughly over 200 Million Rupees, Enough said

Any source?

 

[Monsee]

^^^Remove the 'r' and you got it!

 

[princeuk]

This time without foreign players, next time with them, its a first step, nothing wrong with this.

Yes it will make a statement that we wont bow down to the enemy at their whim, after all they want to threaten their way of life and put a stop to it, they clearly dont want to give into them.

 

[Hasan Cheema]

Any source?

Geo News,

 

[Hasan Cheema]

2 Crore Rupees, Which 20 Million , not 200 Million,

 

[LordEddardStark]

It is certainly very disappointing to see PSL in limelight for all the negative reasons, yet it is also to be understood that no one other than us is responsible for this.

To me, there are 2 ways to go for Pakistanies w.r.t the cricket in Pakistan. Either they have to accept this harsh reality that condition of security in Pakistan is not likely to improve within next 8-10 years. It was a foolish thought of us to assume that 2/3 operations in Karachi or NWFP/FATA would end terrorism in Pakistan, whose roots apparently are much stronger than we had imagined. And if the clean-up of entire mess is the pre-requisite for holding an international or semi-international match here, we should probably assume it will not be happening any time soon.

Or we should try to host such one off matches occasionally so that eventually they'll build up to an entire series. Probably that is what PCB is trying to do here. However it is highly likely that even if this final or any other match afterwards happens without any security issue, Pakistanies would again go into their lazy mode till the time another attack on any other team happened.

If you ask me, I would go with the first option. No life, be it of a famous cricketer or of an ordinary Pakistani, is worth risking for a cricket match. We are in that point in time in history of our country where actions are required not just words. Ensuring no more blasts would do more good to us than sending a strong message through hosting a match at our soil.

 

[the Great Khan]

I don't want to get to the political side of it because it's a cricket forum. My point is simple, Sri Lanka had the issues due to which teams were refusing to travel to Sri Lanka (same is happening to us). The issues got resolved and teams started touring Sri Lanka.

Yes, our mess is a lot lot bigger than that but we need to clear the mess and team would start touring. With the mess around we can try what so ever no one would tour.

i would suggest our mess is alot smaller than sri lankas. They lost hald their country and the terrorists were bombing them using drones and possessed a navy too..the distance between the war zone and colombo was alos tiny in comparison..but we played there..and other teams did too..

 

[last_knight]

In a way it's similar to what one achieves with Ferrari insignia on Suzuki Mehran.

PSL is not an established brand. This year Macullum joined in. Roy played some matches. PCB has to promote the brand and best way for promotion is influx of star foreign players.

What I can't understand is how franchise owners have agreed for something that might hurt the brand they have invested into ?.

 

[Runner Up]

Najam Sethi said on TV today that every team will have 4 foreign players who will be available on short notice in case any of the current player pulls out . Back up Commentators are also available he said.

 

[last_knight]

Najam Sethi said on TV today that every team will have 4 foreign players who will be available on short notice in case any of the current player pulls out . Back up Commentators are also available he said.

QG foreigner players have set the tone. Extremely unlikely for others to go against the tide.

Sethi or anyone can say anything stupid and can get away with it because accountability dynamics are even more stupid.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

This not a tournament to showcase how wonderful UAE is and give easy money to foreign players.

This is a Pakistani tournament and a window for us to show the world what Pakistan is. In the future foreign players will tour and we won't have to bribe them like these insincere mercenaries.

Only VIV is standing with us in our hour of need. We salute you VIV and you will be treated like the KING that you are when you come to Pakistan.

The show must go on and time for us to show what a great place we can be for cricket.

 

[SM1989]

This not a tournament to showcase how wonderful UAE is and give easy money to foreign players.

This is a Pakistani tournament and a window for us to show the world what Pakistan is. In the future foreign players will tour and we won't have to bribe them like these insincere mercenaries.

Only VIV is standing with us in our hour of need. We salute you VIV and you will be treated like the KING that you are when you come to Pakistan.

The show must go on and time for us to show what a great place we can be for cricket.

its delusional fans like you who are a big part of the problem and refuse to accept the reality of the mess that is Pakistan

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

its delusional fans like you who are a big part of the problem and refuse to accept the reality of the mess that is Pakistan

You don't clean the mess by advertising UAE. Bring it back to Pakistan and make it stay there.

If these foreign players had it their way they would always play in UAE and not even step foot in Pakistan. They will come for the money soon enough.

The more high profile cricket matches Pakistan holds the credibility they will gain and a track record. This is far more important than letting foreign players milk you dry in UAE.

 

[SM1989]

You don't clean the mess by advertising UAE. Bring it back to Pakistan and make it stay there.

If these foreign players had it their way they would always play in UAE and not even step foot in Pakistan. They will come for the money soon enough.

The more high profile cricket matches Pakistan holds the credibility they will gain and a track record. This is far more important than letting foreign players milk you dry in UAE.

The fact that half the city has to be shut down to accomodate a cricket match speaks volumes about how unsafe the environment is. No way should any foreign player who is sane ever play in such an environment.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The fact that half the city has to be shut down to accomodate a cricket match speaks volumes about how unsafe the environment is. No way should any foreign player who is sane ever play in such an environment.

When they have security you complain, when they don't you complain. Just make the cricket happen and things will settle down to the point foreigners have enough confidence to return and they will.

What is BD doing here? They just had an ISIS attack just before the England series. The hypocrisy is unreal.

 

[zn426]

The fact that half the city has to be shut down to accomodate a cricket match speaks volumes about how unsafe the environment is. No way should any foreign player who is sane ever play in such an environment.

Two miles is not half the city. Not even in Lahore.
Besides, do you seriously think other countries do not have security for their sports? We're subject to searches every time we go to football, hockey, or other sports games right here in America. And the US is much safer than Pakistan. I have to empty out my pockets and be subject to a metal detector at a minimum. This is not complaining, just pointing out that security of such levels is not nearly as uncommon as you think.

 

[moghul]

Is it really a Pakistani forum, the negativity for Lahore and Pakistan is disappointing.

Yes, it was a debatable decision to hold The final at Lahore, but now it's decided , the messages were expected to be a bit more positive.

Some just found a great opportunity to express their "true " feeling toward Pakistan.

 

[Jabo]

NOTHING!

It's rude that they have gone and carried on with this and held it in Pakistan.

 

[SM1989]

When they have security you complain, when they don't you complain. Just make the cricket happen and things will settle down to the point foreigners have enough confidence to return and they will.

What is BD doing here? They just had an ISIS attack just before the England series. The hypocrisy is unreal.
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Were cricketers specifically targeted in Bangladesh? No they weren't. Whereas in Pakistan they were targeted. That in and of itself makes a huge difference.

Bangladesh is also much more stable than Pakistan is in terms of security relatively speaking.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Were cricketers specifically targeted in Bangladesh? No they weren't. Whereas in Pakistan they were targeted. That in and of itself makes a huge difference.

Bangladesh is also much more stable than Pakistan is in terms of security relatively speaking.

That was nearly 10 years ago.

An American president was assassinated in 1960s. You want to still discuss American security? IRA was bombing England in the 80s. You want to talk about English security?

How long does it have to be, before Pakistan can move on from 2009?

 

[aloo paratha]

Pessimists need to stop acting like there is "no point" in hosting the final in Pakistan. It is still a high profile game, and if it can go successfully, it's a step towards things to come.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

So this is ok for Bangaldesh? But not for Pakistan. Unbelievable hypocrisy in world cricket. It is just unreal.