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It seems Pakistan is lost at what to do with Umar Akmal. What other countries would have done with Umar Akmal? I am specifically interested in Australia, England, South Africa and India.
Definitely would have tried him as an opener in Limited over internationals and checked how he would have gone
Umar fails miserably even when he comes to bat during the PP overs. I'd like the PCB to do this though so that UA fans run out of excuses once and for all.
Pakistan can try him on A-Team tours not in the national teamIndia tried this with Rohit Sharma and was successful Pakistan should also try this with Umar.
India tried this with Rohit Sharma and was successful Pakistan should also try this with Umar.
lot of polarizing views among Pak fans for Umar Akmal. hope other team fans are more straightforward about him
Other Indian players who I can think of who suffered a fate that would befall Umar Akmal if he was Indian: Hemang Badani, Dinesh Mongia, Robin Uthappa and at a stretch - Mohammad Kaif.
Raina in tests!
Yep. And Yuvraj can then be a comparison as well.
in early 2010, an indian friend of mine asked me about UA and Virat and by then I have seen very little of Virat and he had seen little more of UA and
I told him that right now, Umar seems to be more talented of the two but Virat has all the spark that I look for in a player and great players have and I (back then) told him that in 5 years of time, Virat would end up being a better/polished batsman than UA
as Virat's team/management/captain would utilize his talent and even if he fails a bit, they will persist with him and give him the opportunities and batting spot that he deserves and he would end up being better player than UA
.....My friend told me that he didnt agree with me as he thought UA has more strokes, better front and back foot attack than Virat....but I kept on insisting what I believed in.....we are only about two years into my statement and he is currently gone to India...But I bet when he comes back he will tell that I was right with my assessment.
Glance through this thread and you would see the full spectrum of excuses that his apologists use.
No other nation would have allowed a batsman of Akmal's caliber to play more than 50-60 matches. He is simply not good enough.
Add to his lack of ability, his careless attitude and pathetic fitness.
Akmal should seriously start thinking about an alternate source of income right about now.
lol, according to Akmal's fans if Junior can find the right people who can tell him what he needs to do at each step of his innings and career he will unleash the kind of batting never seen before.
The guy is mentally incapable of understanding why fitness is important and said if he loses weight he will lose power. You need to be a special kind of 'smart' to think that way.
It seems Pakistan is lost at what to do with Umar Akmal. What other countries would have done with Umar Akmal? I am specifically interested in Australia, England, South Africa and India.
you are Indian but don't even know KohliHeck even Kohli took his time to find a stable spot in the team!
Raina is no longer in the test set up after having a glorious start to his test career!
you are Indian but don't even know Kohli
after his first 105 ODI innings he was already a superstar, he had scored 14 100s, and was averaging 48, scored 4378 runs
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now look at Umar Akmal, he has played 105 ODI innings in his career, and averaging 34 with 2 100s, just 3044 runs, his last 50 came a year ago, after tht he has played 10 innings and failed to score even one 50
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first of all they don't belong in the same sentenceKohli was not a regular feature in the team right away. He had flaws and he was made to correct those to find a place in the team. After his debut in 2008, his next game was after one year. Not like Umar Akmal going in and out every other series. Akmal has been allowed in the time despite very visible flaws in his playstyle at the very early stage and he never improved.
I am Indian and I know about my team![]()
I am a fan of his. I guess he needs a right mentor/captain
Definitely would have tried him as an opener in Limited over internationals and checked how he would have gone
Umar has literally never played as an opener- not at any level
I don't know why people think he'd be successful at a position he's never played at.
Umar Akmal has clearly shown he doesn't have either the capacity or the will (or both) to learn from his mistakes and to work on his game
He should have been dropped permanently years ago
Umar could have better success as opener.
Allows him to loft the ball over the in-circle.
Doesn't need to use his brains as much.
Its worth a shot. Not like Pakistan has lots of great opening bats anyway.
But dunno if Umar is wants to open.
Umar has literally never played as an opener- not at any level
I don't know why people think he'd be successful at a position he's never played at.
Umar Akmal has clearly shown he doesn't have either the capacity or the will (or both) to learn from his mistakes and to work on his game
He should have been dropped permanently years ago
Umar has literally never played as an opener- not at any level
I don't know why people think he'd be successful at a position he's never played at.
Umar Akmal has clearly shown he doesn't have either the capacity or the will (or both) to learn from his mistakes and to work on his game
He should have been dropped permanently years ago
He has actually. He has even opened with Ahmed Shehzad at u-19 level.
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/131/131271.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/131/131262.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/131/131253.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/131/131241.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/131/131233.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/154/154785.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/154/154784.html
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/154/154782.html
And you said he literally has never played as a specialist opener? Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad wreaked havoc in some matches there. A partnership over sr 200!
This guy will always be inconsistent because he just isn't intelligent enough for the highest level of the game. But yea he has opened and played some Afridi like innings at the top.
Was Kambli missing a mentor in India back then?
Kambli, a bigger talent than Tendulkar didn't achieve anything, Akmal would have done exactly like him had he played for India.IF you are messed up at top, then you are bound to fail!
I always hear this that Kambli was was a bigger talent than Tendulkar which was absolutely rubbish.he scored couple of double hundreds against pop-gun attacks in India and that is it.he had serious problem against short pitch stuff and once west indies bowlers found that out even in indian pitches he was a gonner.He never had the skill or talent which Sachin possessed
Dhoni would have groomed him as a finisher and would have knocked some sense into his head. What a waste of talent
So dhoni would have been able to groom him as a finisher, something misbah and flower couldn't do even though they were able to transform asad and Azhar into world class batters.
Asad and Azhar are crappy ODI batsmen. Misbah himself was an average ODI batter. UA would have been a regular ODI finisher instead of a slogger if he was under Dhoni. As far as tests go, I don;t think UA has the temperament.
UA is not a finisher, the only slot he can do well is opening.And it doesn't matter in which format Azhar and Asad did well, fact remains that the coaches and Misbah were able to polish them, whereas all the coaches had issues with UA.
That's the biggest failure of Misbah and Coaches. If they believed that UA has to bat down the order, they should have inspired and sold him the idea. He's clearly dissatisifed and always complains. If UA is really a great prospect at the top order, they failed misrably because they couldn't identify that
One of my friends asked me this question in 2010
Definitely would have tried him as an opener in Limited over internationals and checked how he would have gone
UA is not a finisher, the only slot he can do well is opening.And it doesn't matter in which format Azhar and Asad did well, fact remains that the coaches and Misbah were able to polish them, whereas all the coaches had issues with UA.
How do you know he will do well opening? He cannot pick the gaps, cannot keep the balls down. His slog shots are predictable and the opposition will always have fielders for that even in the opening overs. He gets frusturated immediately and cannot leave good balls. Where is this myth of Umar being a good opener coming from? Heck even players like AB and Kohli avoid opening as much as possible
Chota Akmal is not even half the batsman he was in 2010. He reminds me of Vinod Kambli.