When Azhar Ali plays slow, it's a problem but when Babar Azam does it... Who cares?

[aloo paratha]

Babar's innings yesterday was terrible before he passed 50, he played so slow, had 9 runs off around 25 balls, once he had played 60 balls, his SR was still 65.

Lets face it, if Azhar did this, so many people would be mad and be blaming him for the loss, Babar made up for it but he surely put a lot of pressure on Sharjeel and he eventually got out.

I'm not saying that if Azhar does it, it shouldn't be a problem, it should be a problem if any individual in the team does it, no double standard.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Babar's innings yesterday was terrible before he passed 50, he played so slow, had 9 runs off around 25 balls, once he had played 60 balls, his SR was still 65.

Lets face it, if Azhar did this, so many people would be mad and be blaming him for the loss, Babar made up for it but he surely put a lot of pressure on Sharjeel and he eventually got out.

I'm not saying that if Azhar does it, it shouldn't be a problem, it should be a problem if any individual in the team does it, no double standard.

The answer is in your post. Azhar just isn't an ODI batsman. While Babar is our best ODI batsman. You don't need to look at numbers, strike rates, etc. Just watch them bat.

 

[Syed1]

Exactly I have pointed it out multiple times and been shut down by all the Babar lovers saying he played as per the situation's requirement.

The fact is people are willing to go any length to defend their favorites and put down a player if they don't like him.


I don't like Azhar's style of play, but one thing is for certain Babar didn't let us feel Azhar's absence yesterday. Absolutely pathetic innings.

 

[world cup captain]

I did a mild comparison yesterday of Babar and Shehzad. In return, I got criticized. Ummm... Sounds like double standards.

 

[Syed1]

The answer is in your post. Azhar just isn't an ODI batsman. While Babar is our best ODI batsman. You don't need to look at numbers, strike rates, etc. Just watch them bat.

Yeah a classy cover that goes straight to a fielder is better than actually scoring runs.


RIP logic

 

[Third_Umpire]

Babar is already a far superior ODI batsman than Azhar is, or probably ever will be. Not sure why some are trying to hang onto Azhar the ODI batsman. Just watch them bat, Azhar has half the shots that Babar does, so will consistently struggle to score.

Meanwhile, Babar just reached 1000 runs in record time...

 

[Mamoon]

For Babar, it is an exception; for Azhar, it is a norm. That is all.

 

[Cricketfan no 1]

with Aa age gap of 12 years im sure babar Will learn guickly which Azhar has failed to do so
not saying he played ODIs but atleast he knew requirements of modern day cricket

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Yeah a classy cover that goes straight to a fielder is better than actually scoring runs.


RIP logic

That's not what I meant. Babar has shown that he is a quality one day batsman. This knock was a good one apart from how he started. Is Sharjeel a little kid. He hit 3 fours in a row so was he still under pressure to hit a 4th after that? Babars job was to bat through the innings and it's stupid to think he was responsible for sharjeels stupid dismissal. Azhar on the other hand starts off like Babar did, in every single knock and plays like that throughout.

 

[aloo paratha]

Babar is already a far superior ODI batsman than Azhar is, or probably ever will be. Not sure why some are trying to hang onto Azhar the ODI batsman. Just watch them bat, Azhar has half the shots that Babar does, so will consistently struggle to score.

Meanwhile, Babar just reached 1000 runs in record time...

Ok but that's not the point of the thread... Babar is better in my opinion as well but that doesn't mean his flaws should be defended.

 

[aloo paratha]

The answer is in your post. Azhar just isn't an ODI batsman. While Babar is our best ODI batsman. You don't need to look at numbers, strike rates, etc. Just watch them bat.

You're gonna be able to convert a 30 from 50 ball to an 80 from 100 EVERY innings you play? I don't think so. So you're better off not risking your teams position.

 

[Hasan123]

I completely understand where the op is coming from but we know Babar is capable of maintaining a healthy strike rate, whilst we know Azhar isn't able to on a consistent basis. But than again Azhar shouldn't get as much stick because he doesn't have the shot range to keep up with modern standards so expecting him to is harsh. Ultimately it was a poor decision to put him in the odi team and make him captain.

 

[Abdullah]

mamoon is right. for azhar this is the norm and he has to get a bit agricultural to get the skates on. i think the wicket took a bit of getting used to for babr and he played a bit for the record, and also sharjeel couldnt run his singles when babar drops it to the left of point.
With azhar this is the norm. the reason we cant have too much of a go at babar is because he held it together and got us to 213-4 off 40 overs which is EXACTLY WHERE WE WANTED TO BE WHEN WE WERE PUT IN. And he was still there.

 

[R1ddlR]

Babar Azam is a complete batsmen, when he is batting with Malik, Akmal - why should he be slogging; he was turning the strike over and absorbing pressure of the wickets falling around him.

Babar set the perfect platform, why is the expectation on him to score 80 with 100 SR when we are on a perfect score to score 300.

 

[Darkrai]

Babar azam SR is 90 in ODI (better than most top odi players) and azhar's is 75. lol. It's only because of him we reach 260. If akmal didn't put pressure on Babar, he would have gotten a hundred and his SR would have increased as well. Like how handscomb supported smith.

 

[kingusama92]

Because everyone knows Babar can play with a better SR and has done so throughout his career.

People too often live and die with the recent innings a batsman has played. The "What have you done for me lately?" syndrome.

In this case, the innings itself was good too. It did more than enough to set a solid platform before the team coughed it up.

 

[PennOne]

OP is wrong.

Azhar Ali only has the skillset to survive and hit a few shots.

Baber Azham has the skillset to hit all the shots AND survive.

That is the difference. You can't compare one batsman who plays at a low SR because thats the only way he knows how to play and one who can play shots but chooses not to so that he plays well enough to acheive that 52 ODI average.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Babar has played quite slowly this series for his standards. Perhaps his confidence is low from the test series still or he feels he needs to get some good scores to prove himself, or the quality of bowling is greater than he has faced since he started his international career.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Meanwhile, Babar just reached 1000 runs in record time...

Azhar himself is on the list of joint 2nd or 3rd fastest. 23 innings I believe to 21 by Babar.

 

[Black Zero]

Babur was under immense pressure to reach 1000 runs, after that he scored with good sr#.

47 runs in 68 balls
Next 37 runs in 31 balls.

 

[Abdullah719]

Babur was under immense pressure to reach 1000 runs, after that he scored with good sr#.

47 runs in 68 balls
Next 37 runs in 31 balls.

21 off first 40 balls.
63 off last 60 balls.

Any set of numbers can be pulled out of an innings to prove a point.

 

[JaDed]

The age is the difference also Babar looks more dynamic as a batsman but yes yesterday his knock wasn't that great imo.

Azhar is never going to improve already 30 whereas Babar can build upon this evolve himself,he deserves to be criticized but not put in the same bracket as Azhar.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

These are the stats of Pakistani players that were involved in at least 5 matches that Babar played in you can see who has the worst avg and strike rate. Babar if he is unable to score freely gets off strike usually where as Azhar might play 5 dot balls take a single of the last ball and keep the strike to play another 5-6 dots. Babar was playing slowly but he was feeding the strike to Sharjeel who was scoring at a good rate so our overall rpo was still okay. Where as with Azhar you might see Sharjeel take 15 run in an over and then Azhar will keep the strike for then next 10-15 balls and score 2. Killing of the momentum Sharjeel built.

 

[aloo paratha]

A lot of people missing the point here I know that Babar is a better player, no doubt. My point is that when Azhar plays slow, it's a huge problem but when their favorites play, nobody bats an eye.

 

[Manager101]

Well, currently Azhar is the best opener we have with combo of Sharjeel, so instead of criticizing him, we need to support him till Champions trophy.

In addition to that, next world cup is in England and Azhar's technique will be highly useful there as an opener.

Lastly,I think he started to improve his strike-rate in ODIs against West Indies, hence please be patient.

Evidence: http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-west-indies-2016-17/engine/match/1050227.html

 

[Indiafan]

A lot of people missing the point here I know that Babar is a better player, no doubt. My point is that when Azhar plays slow, it's a huge problem but when their favorites play, nobody bats an eye.

and lots of people have replied that with babar such slow innings is an exception. With azhar, it's the norm

 

[KhalidRafi]

His batting clearly needs improvement as a major flaw is the lack of rotation of strike. But that said, he's still a far better limited overs batsman than Azhar because once he can usually maintain a healthy SR even if he starts slow

 

[Pete Rose]

The argument that if a batsman makes up the scoring runrate at the end is spurious. It ignores the pressure on the partner the team run-rate and the total lack of pressure on the opposing bowler. It was a shehzad like innings

 

[Pete Rose]

and lots of people have replied that with babar such slow innings is an exception. With azhar, it's the norm

It's not what's apparent in this series.

 

[Black Zero]

21 off first 40 balls.
63 off last 60 balls.

Any set of numbers can be pulled out of an innings to prove a point.

Maybe, in the world, where 105=120

 

[pacesensation]

Exactly I have pointed it out multiple times and been shut down by all the Babar lovers saying he played as per the situation's requirement.

The fact is people are willing to go any length to defend their favorites and put down a player if they don't like him.


I don't like Azhar's style of play, but one thing is for certain Babar didn't let us feel Azhar's absence yesterday. Absolutely pathetic innings.

[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION]
You are spot on. Such criminally chauvinistic support of players has ruined pakistan cricket.
He had been below average in tests too. His fan boys want him in test side for 2 years whether he flops or excels.

Absolutely pathetic

 

[ask_analyse_act]

watching them to bat is different.

if babar makes 21(40) which is obviously slow, ppl are sure that he will improve his S/R and will make up at the end as he has all the shots.

but the same with azhar , ppl will go mad thinking he will not make it up will go even worse and get out at 32(61) because he will be struggling to find gaps and has very limited shots to play for boundaries..

 

[Xoib]

In modern odi's there is a need for one batsman who can bat through at a SR 80-90 even the likes of Kohli, Willamson and root have played suck knocks multiple times. The important thing is that batsmen should have the capability of converting his starts in to big scores where he can catch up later Babar can be one of those players.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Because Azam is a 21 year old still learning his trade and Azhar is a 30 year old. Deal with it, thats life.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Average of 52 and strike rate of 92 , hardly the slowest around.

 

[MRSN]

For Babar, it is an exception; for Azhar, it is a norm. That is all.

This.

And also Babar has a game to up the strike rate without losing his wicket. This is very important for a batsman who plays dot balls. Even Kohli consumes some deliveries at start but once he is set he takes the game away from the opposition. Babar may not have same caliber but he is truly the one we need at 3. He is someone who can bat through the innings and hold one end and also easily strike rotate and find boundaries when he is set.

Azhar gets bogged down pretty easily even if he is playing in the 30s and his boundary shots are ugly hoicks. There is no comparison between him and Babar.

 

[MRSN]

a batsman who has at least played 30 balls should be easily able to rotate the strike..which is what Baber did last day. can we say the same about Azhar?

 

[JibranAnsari]

You can excuse one innings but if happens consistently then you ask questions , Babar is easily the best strike rotator in the team. He scores very little percentage of his runs in boundaries is the testament of his strike rotation ability. Azhar lacks in this department and he is a fully matured batsman unlike Babar who is still very young at international level.

 

[srh]

Babar's innings yesterday was terrible before he passed 50, he played so slow, had 9 runs off around 25 balls, once he had played 60 balls, his SR was still 65.

Lets face it, if Azhar did this, so many people would be mad and be blaming him for the loss, Babar made up for it but he surely put a lot of pressure on Sharjeel and he eventually got out.

I'm not saying that if Azhar does it, it shouldn't be a problem, it should be a problem if any individual in the team does it, no double standard.

most of Pak fans are hypocrite. Babar's inning was a major factor in Pakistan losing the match.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Azhar Ali always starts the innings. He sets the tone; which is always pretty poor. Azam comes in at a time when mostly one of the openers have failed to see off the new ball and so, even if he does play slowly (which is extremely rare), I would say it is justified.

 

[Mamoon]

I don't understand the frustrations of some people.

Azhar as SR of 75; Babar has a SR of 92. Obviously, the latter will get more leeway if he bats slowly for a few matches because his career so far suggests that he is up to the terms with the modern day SRs.

A 50 averaging batsman fails for 3 matches and a 25 averaging batsman fails for 3 matches. Who gets more criticism? Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Obviously if it becomes a trend with Babar, he will get criticized, but it is not. At least not yet.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

most of Pak fans are hypocrite. Babar's inning was a major factor in Pakistan losing the match.

Most people have enough sense not to make a judgement based on only one innings.

 

[Black Zero]

SR after each ball:



If your opposition wins with few overs to spare, its only fair to ask question if your main players scored fast enough.

 

[Abdullah719]

Maybe, in the world, where 105=120

You said Babar batted slowly till he got the record then he immediately sped up.

Not quite what happened.

He started slowly, i.e. 21 off 40.

Then he made 26 off 28 to get to the record.

And he finished with 37 off 32.

So he didn't only speed up after getting to the record, he started scoring faster after he had faced 40 deliveries.

 

[spade]

I am more concerned about his inability to handle spinners, has to also run faster between the wickets he seems very lazy, not the right ingredients you like to see in a young batsman, Still pak are not spoilt for choices so he will be getting ample opportunities to improve on his shortcomings.

 

[Black Zero]

You said Babar batted slowly till he got the record then he immediately sped up.

Not quite what happened.

He started slowly, i.e. 21 off 40.

Then he made 26 off 28 to get to the record.

And he finished with 37 off 32.

So he didn't only speed up after getting to the record, he started scoring faster after he had faced 40 deliveries.

Following is my original quote, and I think this statement passes the scrutiny:

Babur was under immense pressure to reach 1000 runs, after that he scored with good sr#.
47 runs in 68 balls Next 37 runs in 31 balls.

and whatever way you cut it (even with your distribution 93 < 116) , he scored with better SR# after he achieved the record.

 

[Abdullah719]

Following is my original quote, and I think this statement passes the scrutiny:



and whatever way you cut it (even with your distribution 93 < 116) , he scored with better SR# after he achieved the record.

But he didn't bat slowly up until he reached the landmark and accelerate after that. It was a gradual acceleration.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I don't understand the frustrations of some people.

Azhar as SR of 75; Babar has a SR of 92. Obviously, the latter will get more leeway if he bats slowly for a few matches because his career so far suggests that he is up to the terms with the modern day SRs.

A 50 averaging batsman fails for 3 matches and a 25 averaging batsman fails for 3 matches. Who gets more criticism? Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Obviously if it becomes a trend with Babar, he will get criticized, but it is not. At least not yet.

How did he fail though? I don't see much wrong with his knock except the start

 

[Syed1]

But he didn't bat slowly up until he reached the landmark and accelerate after that. It was a gradual acceleration.

Whatever the point might be, Babar "golden boy who can do no wrong" Azam successfully managed to reduce our run rate from 9 to 5 within the powerplay overs, which is criminal. Whether he was doing it for his record or not that is a different story.

 

[Abdullah719]

Whatever the point might be, Babar "golden boy who can do no wrong" Azam successfully managed to reduce our run rate from 9 to 5 within the powerplay overs, which is criminal. Whether he was doing it for his record or not that is a different story.

I was answering a specific point.

In this regard, I already pointed out earlier that he struggled to time the ball and find the gaps at the start of the innings which is why he started very slowly. It took him some time to adapt to the pitch and hopefully he will do better with that next time. Once he got accustomed to the bounce and started finding the gaps, run-scoring became easier.

Can't really be compared to Azhar or Shehzad as they have done that practically throughout their earlier career. Shehzad can time the ball quite well but finds it hard to hit the ball into gaps while Azhar simply lacks the variety of shots.

If Babar starts in a similar manner often then you'll see criticism increase.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Whatever the point might be, Babar "golden boy who can do no wrong" Azam successfully managed to reduce our run rate from 9 to 5 within the powerplay overs, which is criminal. Whether he was doing it for his record or not that is a different story.

Yes he should've gotten out slogging in the first power play. We were in a perfect position around the 38th over. We lost because of what happened after that. Simple as that. The run rate in the power play was so high because of one stanlake over.

 

[hailian]

The answer is in your post. Azhar just isn't an ODI batsman.

Since he has become a captain his ODI average is 40 and Strike rate is 80 and you are saying he is not an ODI batsman? when was the last time we got an opener with these stats? Never!

 

[Syed1]

Yes he should've gotten out slogging in the first power play. We were in a perfect position around the 38th over. We lost because of what happened after that. Simple as that. The run rate in the power play was so high because of one stanlake over.

Yeah man there is nothing in between of scoring 7 runs in 5 overs and "getting out slogging in the power play". Atleast golden boy could have given the strike to Sharjeel or was that too risky too? Obviously the record was in the balance hence the team's objectives were put on hold till the record is achieved.

 

[aloo paratha]

Most people have enough sense not to make a judgement based on only one innings.

Doesn't mean he can't be the reason for the loss in this one match.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Doesn't mean he can't be the reason for the loss in this one match.

How much do we make without Babar's 84?

 

[Syed1]

How much do we make without Babar's 84?

That is the logic that Misbah and Azhar fans used to employ.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

That is the logic that Misbah and Azhar fans used to employ.

Azhar and Misbah don't strike the ball at 84. They certainly won't against this attack.

Secondly, he said we lost the match due to Babar. If Babar is dismissed early, then how much do Pakistan end up with? We all know the answer.

 

[itsme]

That is the logic that Misbah and Azhar fans used to employ.

Pak were 215 in 40 if azhar or misbah score this much it will be a miracle to be at 215 in 45

 

[The_Odd_One]

If Azhar can average 50 with bat at this strike rate, I don't think many will find a problem in that.

If your strike rate is low, you have to be extremely consistent.

Besides, Babar is like a decade younger than Azhar and has all the time in the world to improve.

 

[itsme]

Btw you are forgetting a point when babar was batting at low strike rate early on sharjeel was struggling too (26 from 12 to 31 from 30).

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Azhar and Misbah don't strike the ball at 84. They certainly won't against this attack.

Secondly, he said we lost the match due to Babar. If Babar is dismissed early, then how much do Pakistan end up with? We all know the answer.

Logic doesn't apply to some of these guys. They want to make someone a scapegoat even if he happens to be our best player who played well and set us up for 300

 

[hafizexpress]

Happens.
Steven Smith was really slow in the second ODi and Dhoni started off really slowly before going to make 134 in their second ODi

 

[Mamoon]

How did he fail though? I don't see much wrong with his knock except the start

That was hypothetical. As far as that particular innings was concerned, it was a decent but a poorly paced effort.

 

[waleed88]

If Azhar can average 50 with bat at this strike rate, I don't think many will find a problem in that.

If your strike rate is low, you have to be extremely consistent.

Besides, Babar is like a decade younger than Azhar and has all the time in the world to improve.

Azhar did when he was taking apart Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in Asian conditions, just like Babar did against the WI.. however Babar this was the only decent knock by Babar and this too had 2 dropped catches which is likely to not happen again..

Only a Pakistani will not make use of these dropped catches..

If we gave the Aussie lineup 4 or 5 chances during an innings, they would've scored 360 instead of the 260 we scored

 

[waleed88]

The argument that if a batsman makes up the scoring runrate at the end is spurious. It ignores the pressure on the partner the team run-rate and the total lack of pressure on the opposing bowler. It was a shehzad like innings

Good example, Shehzad was always berated for this kind of effort, people forget he was dropped twice as well

 

[waleed88]

People forget Azhar Ali was our second highest run getter vs England in ODIs, he had two 80 odd vs England at a similar strike rate to what Azam played i.e (80 off 104 balls, 82 off a 110)

.. whereas Azam was a failiure for the entire series..

Although I honestly remember numerous posters blaming Azhar Ali for the strike rate, that led to the team scoring low totals..

My my how the tables have turned now.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Let me break it down for you.


Let us see what is strike rate of azhar ali when he gets out between 0 and 50

in 31 innings his sr is 66 when he gets out between 0 and 50

31 innings is 72 percent of his batting career , means 72 percent of time his average strike rate is 66.


for babar azam now

in 12 innings he got out between 0 and 50 and his SR in 79.8

12 innings is his 57 percent of his career.




when azhar scores 51 or more , his sr is 81.68 and thats only 28 percent of his total odi innings.

when babar scores 51 or more , his sr is 95.81 and thats 42 percent of his innings.



So even if babar azam gets out early (below 50) his SR is almost 80 but for Azhar that number is only 66.

 

[Statsman]

100 off 109 chasing 350+ on a flat track isn't of much use to be honest. He made his 50 off 75 which pretty much killed the momentum and you got a feeling as a viewer that Pakistan is not even trying to win.

I'm afraid Azhar would have been criticised for such an innings.

 

[saeed5646]

100 off 109 chasing 350+ on a flat track isn't of much use to be honest. He made his 50 off 75 which pretty much killed the momentum and you got a feeling as a viewer that Pakistan is not even trying to win.

I'm afraid Azhar would have been criticised for such an innings.

yeah agree should be drop and replace with shehzad or asad shafiq who wil score 60 ball hundred

 

[Statsman]

yeah agree should be drop and replace with shehzad or asad shafiq who wil score 60 ball hundred

Please. That's not what I meant. There is a bit of unjustified agony against Azhar is all I'm saying.

 

[saeed5646]

Please. That's not what I meant. There is a bit of unjustified agony against Azhar is all I'm saying.

do you know what happen on first ball of match

we all know amir can swing the new ball away from left handed batsmen but our captain defensive put

only 2 slip fielder and which could have easy catch at third slip he drop a hard chance thats due to his

defensive captaincy

these are little things which is why people hate him his game awareness

 

[waleed88]

do you know what happen on first ball of match

we all know amir can swing the new ball away from left handed batsmen but our captain defensive put

only 2 slip fielder and which could have easy catch at third slip he drop a hard chance thats due to his

defensive captaincy

these are little things which is why people hate him his game awareness

I know you like to target AA for that, but Smith pulled off a catch like that, and it was featured in one of the best catches ever on Aussie soil..

 

[saeed5646]

I know you like to target AA for that, but Smith pulled off a catch like that, and it was featured in one of the best catches ever on Aussie soil..

so why there was no third slip in aus on first ball of match that too against warner who starts the inning

without moving his feat..Was Hafeez dump to put 3 slips in third odi for first over??

 

[Black Zero]

100 off 109 chasing 350+ on a flat track isn't of much use to be honest. He made his 50 off 75 which pretty much killed the momentum and you got a feeling as a viewer that Pakistan is not even trying to win.

I'm afraid Azhar would have been criticised for such an innings.

Totally agree, target SR is 123 and once you scoring half that rate, you are not playing for win. You might be playing for respectable defeat or just playing for personal glory.

 

[Big Mac]

do you know what happen on first ball of match

we all know amir can swing the new ball away from left handed batsmen but our captain defensive put

only 2 slip fielder and which could have easy catch at third slip he drop a hard chance thats due to his

defensive captaincy

these are little things which is why people hate him his game awareness

so why there was no third slip in aus on first ball of match that too against warner who starts the inning

without moving his feat..Was Hafeez dump to put 3 slips in third odi for first over??

At the start of Pakistan's innings Australia also had two slips for both Starc and Hazlewood but nobody seemed to notice that...

 

[saeed5646]

At the start of Pakistan's innings Australia also had two slips for both Starc and Hazlewood but nobody seemed to notice that...

their was 3 slips for hazlewood because of his out swinger while starc bowls in swinger that is why in first

over two slips were their

 

[Big Mac]

their was 3 slips for hazlewood because of his out swinger while starc bowls in swinger that is why in first

over two slips were their

Nope. Hazlewood, moving the ball away from Azhar, was bowling with two slips in his first over.

 

[Rana]

The way I see it,

Azhar is a 90s batsman failing because he tries to bat in a modern way and he doesnt have the skill to do so.

Babar is a 2007 batsman and plays the same way throughout.

We are still missing that 2015+ batsman

 

[Bilal7]

Quality innings. Had the useless Malik and Azhar and to a lesser extent, Rizwan and Hafeez done their bit, Pakistan would have chased this down.

 

[yasir]

their was 3 slips for hazlewood because of his out swinger while starc bowls in swinger that is why in first

over two slips were their

Why Pakistan did not start with three slips??

They knew ball is only going to swing in first 4/5 overs, they had to get Warner out. It does not make a difference with extra four or 6.

Best fielding for Warner is three slips, two gullies when Amir is bowling and two slips, two gullies when Junaid is bowling. Let him attack, you are never going to stop him by defensive fielding, not even in test.

Australian batting heavily rely on Warner, you get him out early, they cannot make over 310, for get about 350+... like in last two tests, Pakistan played in the hands of Warner in last two ODIs, we need bold Captain, who goes all attack upfront.