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'When Pressure Increases, Call Back the Fixers' - Ramiz Raja Slams Pakistan's Cricket System

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Former Pakistan player Ramiz Raja slammed the country’s cricket system, saying the decision to tour Zimbabwe with their strongest players was ‘one step forward and two steps backward’. Raja said Pakistan should have used the chance to experiment with new players. Pakistan had swept Zimbabwe 2-0 in Tests and won the T20Is 2-1.

“Even if you lose with new players in the side, there is at least a silver lining that you figure out players are capable and those who aren’t. You move on and test another player. With old players, who already who know what their value addition is,” Ramiz said on a YouTube channel.

He said it doesn’t make sense to play veteran players in T20Is.

“As far my understanding goes, I haven’t seen a 40-45-year-old player in T20s on the international platform. It makes sense because your reflexes slow down and even if you were a world-class player, your performance drops to 50 percent.

“We don’t have players of that caliber. For example, MS Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar, despite being at their 50%, were still very useful. This just reinforces the fear we have about losing matches. For the sake of winning, we are destroying the system.”

Raja said Pakistan’s system needs a re-think, saying their current approach was not how teams are built.

“Move on with new players. It will at least give you a sense of direction. Against Zimbabwe, if you had gone with new players and lost, nobody would have said anything because it could have been an experimental tour. There are very few occasions where you can experiment against an international team. Like I have said earlier, they take one step forward and two steps backward,” commented Ramiz.

“When the pressure increases, call back the old players. When the pressure increases, call back the fixers. when the pressure increases, you play an extra wicketkeeper as a middle-order batsman. That’s not how teams are built. It just goes to show the state of our system wherein the new players are a long way behind.”

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...a-slams-pakistans-cricket-system-3779906.html
 
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To his credit, Ramiz has not faltered on his views on tainted players.

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Former Pakistan skipper Ramiz Raja has lashed out at the apex cricket board of the Green Army for roping in players who have remained unfaithful to the national side and were found guilty of corruption in cricket. Taking a dig at the Pakistani Cricket Board (PCB), Raja has opined that tainted cricketers should open grocery stores instead of making a comeback to the national side after serving jail time. The former Pakistan skipper's jibe was aimed at the apex cricket board for reinstating players like Mohammad Amir.

Amir, a retired Test pacer and a white ball specialist was jailed and served a lengthy ban from international cricket for his involvement in the infamous 2010 spot-fixing scandal. Despite a blot on his resume, Amir was given a second chance as the pacer was reintegrated to the national side by the PCB. Raja believes even household names have managed to damage cricket in Pakistan. The former Pakistani cricketer and full-time pandit is also concerned that the PCB has failed to replace tainted cricketers in the past.

"You ask me I would say these tainted cricketers should open their grocery shops," he said. "I have no doubt that giving concession to big names also damaged Pakistan cricket," he said while referring to Amir reports news agency PTI. Raja also gave his two cents on the curious case of Sharjeel Khan who is in speculation of making a return to the national side.

Though Sharjeel's potential return to the side will be decided by the PCB, Raja believes the out of favour player's comeback will only damage Pakistan cricket. "There is once again talks of redrafting Sharjeel Khan into the team which is not right and can damage Pakistan cricket," the 1992 World Cup winner with Imran Khan-led Pakistan added.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ohammad-amir-should-open-grocery-shops/577628
 
Maybe he has similar views about Steven Smith and David Warner coming back to represent Australia?
 
Maybe he has similar views about Steven Smith and David Warner coming back to represent Australia?

Cheating to help your team win will always be a far less crime than match/spot-fixing.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of juxtaposing Smith and Warner with Amir and Sharjeel.
 
Cheating to help your team win will always be a far less crime than match/spot-fixing.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of juxtaposing Smith and Warner with Amir and Sharjeel.

You can't help people who are deliberately biased. Even he knows in his heart that ball tampering is nowhere as big of an offence as match fixing.
 
Former Pakistan player Ramiz Raja slammed the country’s cricket system, saying the decision to tour Zimbabwe with their strongest players was ‘one step forward and two steps backward’. Raja said Pakistan should have used the chance to experiment with new players. Pakistan had swept Zimbabwe 2-0 in Tests and won the T20Is 2-1.

“Even if you lose with new players in the side, there is at least a silver lining that you figure out players are capable and those who aren’t. You move on and test another player. With old players, who already who know what their value addition is,” Ramiz said on a YouTube channel.

He said it doesn’t make sense to play veteran players in T20Is.

“As far my understanding goes, I haven’t seen a 40-45-year-old player in T20s on the international platform. It makes sense because your reflexes slow down and even if you were a world-class player, your performance drops to 50 percent.

“We don’t have players of that caliber. For example, MS Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar, despite being at their 50%, were still very useful. This just reinforces the fear we have about losing matches. For the sake of winning, we are destroying the system.”

Raja said Pakistan’s system needs a re-think, saying their current approach was not how teams are built.

“Move on with new players. It will at least give you a sense of direction. Against Zimbabwe, if you had gone with new players and lost, nobody would have said anything because it could have been an experimental tour. There are very few occasions where you can experiment against an international team. Like I have said earlier, they take one step forward and two steps backward,” commented Ramiz.

“When the pressure increases, call back the old players. When the pressure increases, call back the fixers. when the pressure increases, you play an extra wicketkeeper as a middle-order batsman. That’s not how teams are built. It just goes to show the state of our system wherein the new players are a long way behind.”

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...a-slams-pakistans-cricket-system-3779906.html

LoL if you loose there is a Silver Lining?
What Silver lining is he talking about? Pakistan cannot afford to loose to Zimbabwe. Who will want to play Pakistan if we can't even beat Zimbabwe? Australia already doesn't want to invite us over.
Sajid Khan was given a debut (in place of Yasir Shah) but he failed 1 wicket in 2 test matches. I agree with Ramiz that Tabish Khan who is 36 yrs old should not have been given a debut but Young Shahnawaz should have. Others like Nouman Ali & Imran Butt had played only 2 tests each so they were new players as well. Hasan Ali is making a come back He needed to play as many matches as he can. Otherwise his spot will be in doubt. Fawad Alam is making a comeback he is in same boat can't drop him now.

That means there 4 newbies played (Tabish, Sajid, Imran Butt & Nouman ali) With 2 making come backs. that is more than half the side.

I have to agree with Professor Hafeez when he says "even my son knows more about cricket than Ramiz" LOL
 
Maybe he has similar views about Steven Smith and David Warner coming back to represent Australia?

But he is talking about fixers not ball tampers.

So you must despise Imran Khan,Wasim Akram,and Waqar Younis who have admitted to ball tampering? :))
 
These fixers need banishing going forward. Amir and Sharjeel need to be the last players we make allowances for.
 
Cheating to help your team win will always be a far less crime than match/spot-fixing.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of juxtaposing Smith and Warner with Amir and Sharjeel.

Cheating to win a game is a much bigger offense than spot fixing. Spot fixing has minimal bearing on the result (unless in a very very tight game) whereas ball tampering will dramatically change the course of the game more often than not.

The only reason why spot fixing is seen as the bigger evil is due to the involvement of financial gain.

None of these two match fixed, so no need to bring that in.
 
But he is talking about fixers not ball tampers.

So you must despise Imran Khan,Wasim Akram,and Waqar Younis who have admitted to ball tampering? :))

I’m not the one judging anyone. It’s Rameez Raja who is.
 
Agree with Ramiz on this one. PCB is a board that is run on the chairman's personal values and principles instead of on a set of rules and regulations.
 
Former Pakistan player Ramiz Raja slammed the country’s cricket system, saying the decision to tour Zimbabwe with their strongest players was ‘one step forward and two steps backward’. Raja said Pakistan should have used the chance to experiment with new players. Pakistan had swept Zimbabwe 2-0 in Tests and won the T20Is 2-1.

“Even if you lose with new players in the side, there is at least a silver lining that you figure out players are capable and those who aren’t. You move on and test another player. With old players, who already who know what their value addition is,” Ramiz said on a YouTube channel.

He said it doesn’t make sense to play veteran players in T20Is.

“As far my understanding goes, I haven’t seen a 40-45-year-old player in T20s on the international platform. It makes sense because your reflexes slow down and even if you were a world-class player, your performance drops to 50 percent.

“We don’t have players of that caliber. For example, MS Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar, despite being at their 50%, were still very useful. This just reinforces the fear we have about losing matches. For the sake of winning, we are destroying the system.”

Raja said Pakistan’s system needs a re-think, saying their current approach was not how teams are built.

“Move on with new players. It will at least give you a sense of direction. Against Zimbabwe, if you had gone with new players and lost, nobody would have said anything because it could have been an experimental tour. There are very few occasions where you can experiment against an international team. Like I have said earlier, they take one step forward and two steps backward,” commented Ramiz.

“When the pressure increases, call back the old players. When the pressure increases, call back the fixers. when the pressure increases, you play an extra wicketkeeper as a middle-order batsman. That’s not how teams are built. It just goes to show the state of our system wherein the new players are a long way behind.”

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...a-slams-pakistans-cricket-system-3779906.html

It's not often that RR makes any sense but he is spot on this time.
 
Cheating to help your team win will always be a far less crime than match/spot-fixing.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of juxtaposing Smith and Warner with Amir and Sharjeel.

It's a 1st but I agree with you. Cheating to win has and always will be part of the game and in most Sports its part of the game, cheating to lose is on a different level.
 
You can't help people who are deliberately biased. Even he knows in his heart that ball tampering is nowhere as big of an offence as match fixing.

The irony of this comment being under Mamoon's response is funny tbh. Gotta admit I did chuckle :))
 
Hopefully more people will come out in the future and admit that they have tampered. The problem is, the Australians will not admit to anything unless they are caught with their pants down...

You do realise our fixers didn't admit their guilt until they knew there was no other way out.
 
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Back on topic, Ah well, it just goes to show that some are better at covering their tracks than others. Ramiz Raja, just like many of the so called Pakistani intellectuals is entitled to voice his opinion on corrupt Pakistani cricketers, but then he has no business either doing commentary gigs with Wasim Akram whilst praising the daylights out of him.

People choose to side with the double standards that suit their own agenda to further their own double standards...if that makes sense. Ramiz is no different to any of us, including me or you.
 
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Back on topic, Ah well, it just goes to show that some are better at covering their tracks than others. Ramiz Raja, just like many of the so called Pakistani intellectuals is entitled to voice his opinion on corrupt Pakistani cricketers, but then he has no business either doing commentary gigs with Wasim Akram whilst praising the daylights out of him.

People choose to side with the double standards that suit their own agenda to further their own double standards...if that makes sense. Ramiz is no different to any of us, including me or you.



Fair enough. I do agree with Ramiz but his timing for these comments is weird. If he had an issue with Sharjeel being selected, he should have said when he played against South Africa. I don't remember him say anything then.
 
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Cheating to win a game is a much bigger offense than spot fixing. Spot fixing has minimal bearing on the result (unless in a very very tight game) whereas ball tampering will dramatically change the course of the game more often than not.

The only reason why spot fixing is seen as the bigger evil is due to the involvement of financial gain.

None of these two match fixed, so no need to bring that in.

I cant understand this logic.
Both are offense, spot fixing is worse than tampering, fixing means you are selling the nation.
 
When Pakistan wins Ramiz Raja has a problem, when Pakistan lose Ramiz Raja has a problem.

What a confused joker.
 
When Pakistan wins Ramiz Raja has a problem, when Pakistan lose Ramiz Raja has a problem.

What a confused joker.

You can accuse RR of being an annoying commentator but i have never seen or heard him take pleasure in our losses. Thats left to losers on here and elsewhere
 
Fair enough. I do agree with Ramiz but his timing for these comments is weird. If he had an issue with Sharjeel being selected, he should have said when he played against South Africa. I don't remember him say anything then.

I think the stakes are higher now. pressure has increased.
 
Ramiz Raja has been well & truly vindicated by Mohammad Amir

Amir was brought back after his ban & now he has ditched his nation once again to earn easy bucks as a T20 mercenary
 
I have a valid point that if Raja wants experimental tours then he should question the lack of 'A' tours by the PCB instead of devaluing international games by asking to play understrength teams and saying it's OK to lose to Zimbabwe as long as young players get 'experience'. Every international match where Pakistan is represented as a country should have value and the best players should be representing the country.

He has in the past made derogatory comments against Zimbabwe by saying they should be stripped off test status when Pakistan themselves have faced bigger defeats in the recent tour of NZL.

He makes baseless points like not playing 2 WKB when it has been the norm for many countries on innumerable occasions.

He again makes a baseless point that old players should not be recalled? Why? If they show good form and are able to perform then why not?

Very very poor comments from an international cricketer, pathetic to say the least.
 
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For sake of Pakistan cricket I wish we get rid of fixers not only from national team setup but also from domestics.

The problem lies with media and fan base. There is one set that would support fixers to yield short term results and there is another base that would support well mannered but good for nothing players through favouritism. There is no middle ground for either of them.
 
First off, there is no comparison between ball-tampering and match-fixing. Equating the two together is like comparing shop-lifting to arson; both are crimes but one is abundantly more serious than the other.

Secondly, Australia banned all three players for a year and there was massive uproar in Australia and the rest of the world regarding their actions. Can someone tell me how long Afridi was banned for when he took a bite out of the ball right infront of the cameras? Or the time he destroyed the pitch in Faisalabad with his boots and was caught red-footed on TV?
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Ramiz Raja continue to play alongside players named in the Justice Qayyum Report. I don't recall him calling those team-mates out.
 
Don't know which new players he is referring to. Pakistan already handed way too many debuts in the last year or so and even in this test lineup, there are 4, 5 newly inducted players.

Nauman, Imran Butt, Sajid, Tanvir. What else you want?

Let the Test Team settle, please. Test Team is not a place to experiment.
 
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