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When will the PCB be held accountable for unjust selection decisions?

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Firstly, I would like to clarify that I am not an Anti PCB man. I have always been very supportive or tried my best to support whatever side the PCB has selected for us in our good and bad times. I believe that the inclusion of Wasim Khan is a very positive thing for Pakistan as he is clearly a highly competent and professional man for this job. However there are still some clear inconsistencies in the PCB's way of dealing with players in regards to selection. The appointment of Misbah ul Haq was supposed to be the appointment of a man who was meant to understand the geo politics of Pakistan cricket and also value the true merit of its domestic players. Whilst I cannot fault Misbah or the selection committee to not completely want to select the sides on Merit, however some decisions have come across as highly nonsensical, and they are not justified through other selections.

1. The PCB have decided to opt out of selecting Mohammad Amir for a serious tour of New Zealand. Maybe this decision is justified due to Amir's declining performance and form. However how can the PCB justify selecting Faheem Ashraf and Musa Khan as 'fast bowlers', not all-rounders but fast bowlers before Amir? Yes we support the idea of player development, Faheem and Musa were given a fair chance to showcase their ability agains the 14th ranked Zimbawe, and the whole nation is witness to these two players either not being good enough or are still raw and inexperienced to play as 'fast bowlers' for Pakistan. Bizarre, unjust decision and it reeks of personal grudge more than anything else.

2. Dropping Asad Shafiq (poor form and age) but persisting with Fawad Alam. According to posters here, Fawad Alam does not 'deserve' to be dropped and can still offer Pakistan with some cricket at his age of 35. So the PCB want to persist with one older guy in the side out of the two, and have opted to go for the man who has played far fewer Tests and has been out of international cricket for so many years?

3. Not selecting Saud Shakeel instead of Fawad Alam, Imam ul Haq, Shan Masood as a left handed batting option. With all due respect to those players, the only left handed batsman in Pakistan who is clearly better than Saud in terms of ability is Harris Sohail. What exactly did the PCB have to lose by Playing this young lad (25 years of age) in New Zealand before Fawad '35 year old' Alam? We are most likely going to lose both Tests with or without Fawad. The PCB clearly not doing anyone any favours by backing older aged players who are breaking into the team at an age when they should be looking to retire and look for other ventures in life!

These are three clear blunders that i cannot get my head around in this case today. Surely there has to be a way to question and get a proper explanation to these decisions? Nothing seems to have changed and the over reliance on older players is still evident to see even if they have dropped Shoaib Malik.
 
Who should hold them “accountable” and on what legal basis?

I love it when people whine with no logic.
 
Bizarre thinking Shafiqs been dropped not because of his age but poor form thats been continuous for the last 2-3 years

I cant believe youd want him in the team despite this

Ideally yes saud sheouldve come in for shafiq Fawads been retained from the eng squad He hasnt been picked as a replacement for shafiq Yes whether age wise he deserves it or not is a matter but theres no comparison with shafiq as fawad isnt his replacement
 
Lol rich coming from you

Whining is not a problem. However, whining with no logic is.

I am interested to know how do you want to hold PCB accountable and on how will that accountability be achieved?

You obviously don’t know how, so why not whine about selections like everyone else instead of asking for something that cannot be achieved practically?
 
Whining is not a problem. However, whining with no logic is.

I am interested to know how do you want to hold PCB accountable and on how will that accountability be achieved?

You obviously don’t know how, so why not whine about selections like everyone else instead of asking for something that cannot be achieved practically?

Oh so there is no logical/legal way to hold them accountable so let’s just shut up and not question the injustice upon injustice?


On what basis was Mohammed Irfan selected for the Australia tour last year????
 
Oh so there is no logical/legal way to hold them accountable so let’s just shut up and not question the injustice upon injustice?


On what basis was Mohammed Irfan selected for the Australia tour last year????

Yeah and I whined about his selection and asked PCB to hold Misbah accountable because they have the authority.

But how do you expect PCB to be held accountable and who should do it? The PM?
 
You can hold captain, coach, selector, PCB chairman etc. accountable but not PCB as an organization.

It cannot happen.
 
Yeah and I whined about his selection and asked PCB to hold Misbah accountable because they have the authority.

But how do you expect PCB to be held accountable and who should do it? The PM?

Whoever. Do not use this as a platform to criticise a political party. This is a cricket discussion. I don’t care how corrupt the party members are of that PM or whoever they are answerable to. But these decisions clearly are not reviewed before they are released to the public.

How is Amir an inferior fast bowler to Faheem and Musa? This is your big opportunity to lay into these two who in this case are not justified in preference to Amir
 
^ But how do you expect the accountability process to take place? Who should hold PCB accountable and on what basis?

You are not offering any potential solutions but failing to provide a workable framework.

As far as Amir is concerned, PCB is holding a grudge and expect him to get on his knees and beg. I do not condone this behavior but nothing can be done. They have the authority to pick whoever they like.
 
You know what's worst, this is the selection panel that is selecting players for the new normal where extended squads are selected. Imagine the blunders that would be made if there were only 16 players that were to be selected for the test side.

In every cricket playing nation, there are about 10 to 11 automatic selections in a squad of 16 and the remaining spots are contested for. We had the option to pick 35 for England and New Zealand and we are still filling up the spots with undeserving players.

In England, we carried at least 7 to 8 players who had no hope to make it to the main eleven in any format, and over here we have as many if not more than that. I'm honestly befuddled at the mediocrity of our think tank and their inability to make rational decisions.

P.s. I don't think dropping Amir is unjustified and feel he shouldn't be in the squad.
 
You know what's worst, this is the selection panel that is selecting players for the new normal where extended squads are selected. Imagine the blunders that would be made if there were only 16 players that were to be selected for the test side.

In every cricket playing nation, there are about 10 to 11 automatic selections in a squad of 16 and the remaining spots are contested for. We had the option to pick 35 for England and New Zealand and we are still filling up the spots with undeserving players.

In England, we carried at least 7 to 8 players who had no hope to make it to the main eleven in any format, and over here we have as many if not more than that. I'm honestly befuddled at the mediocrity of our think tank and their inability to make rational decisions.

P.s. I don't think dropping Amir is unjustified and feel he shouldn't be in the squad.

If Amir is dropped on Merit and performance, no issues.

But why have Musa and Faheem been picked over him? We saw what they were capable of as ‘Fast bowlers’.
 
If Amir is dropped on Merit and performance, no issues.

But why have Musa and Faheem been picked over him? We saw what they were capable of as ‘Fast bowlers’.

I believe that all three of them do not deserve a place.

Amir's entitlement is on another planet these days. His speed has deteriorated beyond belief and he isn't fit enough to play any serious cricket. He is also using his media collaborators to put pressure on selection panels which is another negative tactic. The road for him is simple, perform, or perish.

Musa for some reason is being considered as a golden boy and I do not understand what is seen in him. I'd even pick Tabish Khan ahead of all of them and see what he's made of. Fahim had spark when he debuted four years ago but he has shown zero development and needs to play second eleven cricket instead of playing for Pakistan.
 
Wait. PCB selects the team? :murali


Isn't it supposed to be the job of a selection committee or the chief selector?
 
Misbah probably had a hernia and suffered withdrawal symptoms after the axing of Asad Shafiq. Guess he needed to console himself so filled his boots with these selections.
 
Why are people angry? The squad is pretty good. Only big mistake is not selecting Saud. Also they should have added an experienced pacer like Ehsan Adil in for tests.
 
Why are people angry? The squad is pretty good. Only big mistake is not selecting Saud. Also they should have added an experienced pacer like Ehsan Adil in for tests.

Address me straight. Don’t people me

Read the OP again and tell me how I have said anything that isn’t justified.
 
Bizarre thinking Shafiqs been dropped not because of his age but poor form thats been continuous for the last 2-3 years

I cant believe youd want him in the team despite this

Ideally yes saud sheouldve come in for shafiq Fawads been retained from the eng squad He hasnt been picked as a replacement for shafiq Yes whether age wise he deserves it or not is a matter but theres no comparison with shafiq as fawad isnt his replacement

I think you are missing the point completely on the Fawad/Shafiq scenario. Maybe I have not been able to elaborate it properly.

When you drop Shafiq, who averages 38 with 4700 runs due to poor form and age (justified), how do you solidify your stance by retaining Fawad who is 35 and averages 33 in Test cricket. What is there to gain with his retention? Why not as Junaids said that you should invest more in younger players instead of either these two. What exactly are you hoping from Fawad as a first XI or bench player?
 
I believe that all three of them do not deserve a place.

Amir's entitlement is on another planet these days. His speed has deteriorated beyond belief and he isn't fit enough to play any serious cricket. He is also using his media collaborators to put pressure on selection panels which is another negative tactic. The road for him is simple, perform, or perish.

Musa for some reason is being considered as a golden boy and I do not understand what is seen in him. I'd even pick Tabish Khan ahead of all of them and see what he's made of. Fahim had spark when he debuted four years ago but he has shown zero development and needs to play second eleven cricket instead of playing for Pakistan.

This is fine. PCB would have been better served selecting 2 new fast bowlers for the tour instead of these two players, because both of them are not better than Amir as fast bowlers. They just look so stupid, and the hate/isolation of Amir is so apparent.
 
Bizarre thinking Shafiqs been dropped not because of his age but poor form thats been continuous for the last 2-3 years

I cant believe youd want him in the team despite this

Ideally yes saud sheouldve come in for shafiq Fawads been retained from the eng squad He hasnt been picked as a replacement for shafiq Yes whether age wise he deserves it or not is a matter but theres no comparison with shafiq as fawad isnt his replacement

Exactly how can anyone justify shafiq when hes been given so many chances I dont even think hes won us 1 single game for pakistan.fawad hasnt even had 1 or 2 series whilst shafiq has.but saud should have been in the squad.
 
If Amir is dropped on Merit and performance, no issues.

But why have Musa and Faheem been picked over him? We saw what they were capable of as ‘Fast bowlers’.

They can play in the shaheens espically musa just becouse hes in the 35 man squad doesnt mean they going to play in the main squad
 
Why are people angry? The squad is pretty good. Only big mistake is not selecting Saud. Also they should have added an experienced pacer like Ehsan Adil in for tests.

Exactly the squad is pretty decent thiers always going to be 1 or 2 eyebrows raised
 
It should be the cheif selector but the 6 coaches also give their suggestions

This guy is at liberty with reality. At the end of the day, The PCB is paying the wages for these selectors, coaches and they have to sanction the player wages and travel costs etc. What is the point of saying “when will the Pakistan selectors be held accountable”? As if that’s something that doesn’t happen but for a futile exercise.
 
I think you are missing the point completely on the Fawad/Shafiq scenario. Maybe I have not been able to elaborate it properly.

When you drop Shafiq, who averages 38 with 4700 runs due to poor form and age (justified), how do you solidify your stance by retaining Fawad who is 35 and averages 33 in Test cricket. What is there to gain with his retention? Why not as Junaids said that you should invest more in younger players instead of either these two. What exactly are you hoping from Fawad as a first XI or bench player?

How many chances has fawad had in the last year would it be just to drop him after 1 series shafiq was dropped becouse if form not age !
 
Good squad overall obviously saud should have been thier along with maybe ehsan and sameen gull
 
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