"When your management relies on likes & dislikes, what do you expect?" : Shoaib Malik

[Last Monetarist]

Malik letting his frustration get the best of him on social media.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...when your management relies on likes & dislikes especially when your cricket is just in surviving mode, then what else do expect as a nation? <br>On top of that when you don't let your captain take decisions this is bound to happen... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a></p>— Shoaib Malik (@realshoaibmalik) <a href="https://twitter.com/realshoaibmalik/status/1385626790341660714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Canistani Hero]

Venomous. Strange from Malik - the winds of change were already in his favor, Misbah would've had to compromise - all he had to was wait.

 

[Canistani Hero]

He might as well have added the hashtag #BringBackMickyArthur at this point. A sad state of affairs. Misbah being dragged through the streets of Harare due to little fault of his own.

 

[Slim]

Lou jee, opportunists like him and Amir would be out with knives but deservedly so.

 

[Saj]

Malik turning up the heat on Misbah-ul-Haq.

He's saying what quite a few players are wanting to say, but daren't.

 

[Rana]

I don’t like Pakistani cricketers when they behave like backstabbers in public

But Malik is right. We can’t deny this

 

[srh]

He might as well have added the hashtag #BringBackMickyArthur at this point. A sad state of affairs. Misbah being dragged through the streets of Harare due to little fault of his own.

Asif Ali with unlimited chances say hi, Sharjeel only given 1 match say hi, Babar as a dummy captian say hi

 

[criclover2311]

Malik was mediocre at his peak or atleast from last 7-8 years, I wonder what he'll do now, he occupied the place of few good players esp. Haris Sohail, thanks to his failure in his 2019 wc or Haris would not have come in, I think Fakhar/Hafeez can play role at 5 or six with Sharjeel coming in at top, Rizwan/Babar at three. There's Azam Khan waiting.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Malik turning up the heat on Misbah-ul-Haq.

He's saying what quite a few players are wanting to say, but daren't.

If I'm not wrong he is close with Mohammad amir & imad wasim..
It still beyond my 11 years of cricket watching experience how on earth imad wasim can't make into this team?? i mean THISS??

 

[criclover2311]

Thanks to Misbah, he has thrown away Malik Ahmed Shehzad Umar Akmal or whoever has done it, finally breath of fresh air, dont care if we fail few matches without them for in long run it'll only benefit us. Misbah has also brought in Danish Aziz Haider Ali in place of his favorites Iftikhar Khushdil, I dont know why so much hate? Its not his fault if Golden Boy Haider Ali is not performing or Danish Aziz is not upto mark, he did not create the hype in first place but he sure gave in to hype and gave them chances. What other options do we've in squad currently if Haider fails other than Asif Ali? If Azam Khan would've travelled to zimbabwe and benched due to Asif Ali, rant would've been justified.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Malik turning up the heat on Misbah-ul-Haq.

He's saying what quite a few players are wanting to say, but daren't.

Players in the current squad or outliers? Surely Imad and Amir would echo these statements.

 

[Mesozoic]

There must be so many divisions in that dressing room.

PCB should do us all a favour and rope in Amazon Prime video for a behind the doors docu-series.

 

[iniqbal223]

Malik was mediocre at his peak or atleast from last 7-8 years, I wonder what he'll do now, he occupied the place of few good players esp. Haris Sohail, thanks to his failure in his 2019 wc or Haris would not have come in, I think Fakhar/Hafeez can play role at 5 or six with Sharjeel coming in at top, Rizwan/Babar at three. There's Azam Khan waiting.

He was, but never been this big failure like Asif Ali...

Hafeez & Malik were not greats; but still you can count that they performed really well at least against India (except for few failures)
Do you expect Asif Ali or Ifti Chahcha can even tolerate that pressure ? They cant even against Zimbabwe..

 

[Saj]

Players in the current squad or outliers? Surely Imad and Amir would echo these statements.

At the very least Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir, yes.

 

[criclover2311]

He was, but never been this big failure like Asif Ali...

Hafeez & Malik were not greats; but still you can count that they performed really well at least against India (except for few failures)
Do you expect Asif Ali or Ifti Chahcha can even tolerate that pressure ? They cant even against Zimbabwe..

I am sure there're better players than Asif Ali in 20 crore cricket loving Nation, and we'll find one that is if we remove our focus from players like Malik who if had focused more on his batting rather than connections and PR would have fared better.

 

[Firebat]

I guess we won’t be seeing Malik at the World Cup then....

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Malik must know something that we don’t. Why would you speak out against the coach just before the WT20, and knowing that your competitors are struggling to take your spot.

He’s probably been told that he’s not wanted back.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Quite clear Babar is being over-ruled on Malik’s selection.

I agree with Misbah in this case. Malik has no business being in a T20 side with Rizwan and Babar already in the top 3. The issue with our team is that it is imbalanced. We should have Sharjeel and Fakhar open, with Babar, Hafeez and Rizwan to follow. That’s a strong middle-order.

 

[Zaz]

Pot shot at misbah

Im not a fan of misbah but this is horrid Never nice to see a current player speaking out like this Why cant they be professional in pakistan?

Maliks a washed up 40 yr old and talks like hes tendulkar, hes had a very avge career but check out the entitlement

No way he should be recalled

 

[Sherlock]

So much for 'Babar is the sole decision maker of who he wants, and doesn't want in the squad/team'

Misbah is just an awful coach, and the men in suits are predominantly to blame because they hired him.

 

[Majid Khan]

Leaving politics aside , this is a truly sad state of affairs that bitter players who themselves rarely performed when in the team and have no problem with the selectors as long they are in the team - but as soon as they are dropped (even if it’s done for valid reasons ) they are waiting with a dagger for the team to fail , just to score points.

You can be sure that former players like Malik and certain people in the media, would have had these kind of statements all ready to publish after Pakistan’s tour of South Africa , expecting surely the team would fail miserably and perfect time to do the back stabbing and blame the coach/selectors for the mess.

Oh well they didn’t get a chance after the SA tour as Pakistan won both ODI and T20 — but they got the perfect opportunity today after Pak were embarrassed by Zimbabwe.

What can you say, players in the Pakistan team in the past have even taken money to lose , it’s not that unlikely that they would take pleasure in seeing the team fail as long as it gives them an opportunity to score points over coach/selectors and earn their place back in the team.

Hafeez failed himself in SA and both games in Zimbabwe , but you can be certain that if he was not selected for this tour - he too would have had some points to make today about where the blame lies.

 

[trickyone]

There must be so many divisions in that dressing room.

PCB should do us all a favour and rope in Amazon Prime video for a behind the doors docu-series.

This will bring extra income for PCB lol

 

[MenInG]

So basically Malik is out of the WT20 - unless Misbah is sacked.

Also wondering if Hafeez will say something soon?

 

[Majid Khan]

So basically Malik is out of the WT20 - unless Misbah is sacked.

Also wondering if Hafeez will say something soon?

Only if he gets dropped , then expect Hafeez to also have his statements prepared and ready for the right moment for point scoring.

Otherwise if they select him for the England tour after these so-called ‘performances’ he might even have some compliments to make about the professionalism of the current selectors.

 

[Zaz]

Leaving politics aside , this is a truly sad state of affairs that bitter players who themselves rarely performed when in the team and have no problem with the selectors as long they are in the team - but as soon as they are dropped (even if it’s done for valid reasons ) they are waiting with a dagger for the team to fail , just to score points.

You can be sure that former players like Malik and certain people in the media, would have had these kind of statements all ready to publish after Pakistan’s tour of South Africa , expecting surely the team would fail miserably and perfect time to do the back stabbing and blame the coach/selectors for the mess.

Oh well they didn’t get a chance after the SA tour as Pakistan won both ODI and T20 — but they got the perfect opportunity today after Pak were embarrassed by Zimbabwe.

What can you say, players in the Pakistan team in the past have even taken money to lose , it’s not that unlikely that they would take pleasure in seeing the team fail as long as it gives them an opportunity to score points over coach/selectors and earn their place back in the team.

Hafeez failed himself in SA and both games in Zimbabwe , but you can be certain that if he was not selected for this tour - he too would have had some points to make today about where the blame lies.

Sad state of affairs If this is how the seniord behave what hope is there for the juniors

The likes of malik n hafeez should show maturity n show the others how to behave instead we get this nonsense from them all the time

I mean which other country would 40 yr olds be mouthing off like this at perceived injustice It makes it laughable considering they are so medicore in the first place

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Putting aside all the claws that are out, the major point remains. Misbah or Younus were never good white ball players and Misbah was a poor white ball captain as well. He also has a tremendous tendency to reward has-been a or never-will-be’s.

Good news is: his powers are waning. Hope he leaves before world T20.

 

[Zaz]

Putting aside all the claws that are out, the major point remains. Misbah or Younus were never good white ball players and Misbah was a poor white ball captain as well. He also has a tremendous tendency to reward has-been a or never-will-be’s.

Good news is: his powers are waning. Hope he leaves before world T20.

And how good a white ball player was mickey?

Their performances as players has nothing to do with their coaching capabilities

Im not a fan of misbah but this is bang out of order from malik He should be behave better

 

[Shazzam]

Malik speaking the truth. Someone had to say it. Its clear he knows what he is talking about. Not the first player to say it either. Waqar Younis basically confirmed who was calling the shots.

 

[Markhor]

We saw what Shoaib Malik did in the 2019 World Cup - which was next to nothing.

If these senior players and ex pros genuinely want to make a difference then go into coaching or mentoring instead of kicking off on social media.

 

[Snowflake]

This is not the first time Malik has been dropped. He was out of the side for a long time but never indulged in such statements. Now,I am certainly not in favor of bringing Malik back but this is very unlike him. For all his faults, he has never given out public statements like this. With Imad also sidelined without a justification, this management can't go off scott free.

For a bang mediocre player that Misbah was, he certainly holds too much sway.

 

[Snowflake]

During Mickey's time, I thought the team had finally gotten rid of factions, politics and was on the same page. All the players were gelling well together.

This unprofessional duo of Misbah and Waqar has really undone all the good work.

 

[daytrader]

There must be so many divisions in that dressing room.

PCB should do us all a favour and rope in Amazon Prime video for a behind the doors docu-series.

This is coming from outside the dressing room. Malik is not part of the team

 

[Snowflake]

Also, how weak of an individual is Babar? Despite knowing his stature and value to the team, he can't command authority and is still easily sidelined by the management? Unbelievable

 

[Badsha]

Give me a break. The amount of brain dead decisions malik has took in his career for him to come up with such statements.

We lost 2019 WC because of you Malik.

 

[Zaz]

Malik should be ashamed even speaking like this

Has he forgot how he performed in 2019 world cup? He should look at his stats before he opens his mouth

 

[daytrader]

[MENTION=133986]Snowflake[/MENTION]
On the contrary these two have brought down the hammer on senior players and have curbed individual player power. This is exactly what we need.

What you are seeing are outbursts from ttfs that have been sidelined.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

And how good a white ball player was mickey?

Their performances as players has nothing to do with their coaching capabilities

Im not a fan of misbah but this is bang out of order from malik He should be behave better

Where does Mickey come in to this? Did I mention him?

If you can't see Misbah's influence on Pakistan's white ball team, tactics and mindset, which goes far beyond his unproven coaching credentials, then I can't help you.

Malik is out of order, but Misbah is far more destructive and sometimes such dissenting voices help decision makers make tough calls.

 

[Slim]

I guess we won’t be seeing Malik at the World Cup then....

Thats the best outcome of all.

 

[Hasan123]

Tweets like this don’t help anything. Clearly some players aren’t happy with the current management and have made Malik aware. These things are best dealt with behind closed doors. Now after every defeat, you will get people saying there are cliques in the team and asking for the exiled players to be recalled.

 

[Zaz]

Where does Mickey come in to this? Did I mention him?

If you can't see Misbah's influence on Pakistan's white ball team, tactics and mindset, which goes far beyond his unproven coaching credentials, then I can't help you.

Malik is out of order, but Misbah is far more destructive and sometimes such dissenting voices help decision makers make tough calls.

Whats his influence? The same team chased 200 and 180 odd a few games ago so dont give me that rubbish

Hes been let down by awful middle order selectorial selections in danish asif and haider who bat like tailenders Theres always was gonna come a point where the top order fail

This is all on M Waseem, Misbah has been given rubbish to work with

Theyve all been given plenty of chances on these tours n they can barely put bat to ball Whats he to do?

 

[sharmaji]

Haha that would be fantastic. PCT dressing room will have all the drama in the world with some colourful characters. I would love to watch it.

There must be so many divisions in that dressing room.

PCB should do us all a favour and rope in Amazon Prime video for a behind the doors docu-series.

 

[Saj]

Malik isn't centrally contracted by the PCB so that makes it easier for him to speak his mind about such things.

It's not as if PCB can remove him from a central contract.

 

[Snowflake]

[MENTION=133986]Snowflake[/MENTION]
On the contrary these two have brought down the hammer on senior players and have curbed individual player power. This is exactly what we need.

What you are seeing are outbursts from ttfs that have been sidelined.

I do agree with the fact that we shouldn't really pay heed to what ttfs like Malik say. But in the current situation, we have seen how Imad, Amir, Wahab, Haaris have all been sidelines...Babar has come out and indicated that he feels he is a dummy captain. Asif Ali has been a contentious selection that no one is owning up to. This doesn't really bode well for the team environment.

I feel like these issues weren't really there during Mickey's time.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Whats his influence? The same team chased 200 and 180 odd a few games ago so dont give me that rubbish

Hes been let down by awful middle order selectorial selections in danish asif and haider who bat like tailenders Theres always was gonna come a point where the top order fail

This is all on M Waseem, Misbah has been given rubbish to work with

Theyve all been given plenty of chances on these tours n they can barely put bat to ball Whats he to do?

How is this all on M. Wasim? He picked the right players and we couldn’t hack it to play out 20 overs to make 119 runs????

Danish Aziz performed in the domestic league- justified
Arshad Iqbal performed in domestic and PSL- justified
Hafeez performed- correct selection

So on and so forth.

The fact is if performers can’t even hack it at this level then why is that the selector’s fault? Did we really need the likes of Imad Wasim to help us win this?

The guys who blew it it’s their fault and nobody else’s.

Big words coming from Malik who’s created drifts in the team, stole shots of players and famously got bowled first ball by Hardik “call me McGrath” Pandya in the World Cup. Malik is a slow coach when it comes to batting and is only good in chasing small to medium totals, never has he made runs when building a score.

 

[Mesozoic]

This is coming from outside the dressing room. Malik is not part of the team

I know but it's pretty clear that all is not hunky dory in that changing room.

Malik played under the same Misbah on the England tour if I'm not wrong.

 

[Line and Length]

Surprised by this. I always considered Malik to be pretty selfish, his record to one side, it's good to see him stand up and speak out against this clueless management without caring about his own position. He was probably going to be the prime contender to get a spot in the middle order, but after this, I doubt he'll get a look in. Also the fact that he criticized Misbah but not Mohammad Wasim is telling.

Malik is the now the fourth player that has fallen out either with the team management or Mohammad Wasim, after Amir, Imad, and Yasir.

 

[Markhor]

How is this all on M. Wasim? He picked the right players and we couldn’t hack it to play out 20 overs to make 119 runs????

Danish Aziz performed in the domestic league- justified
Arshad Iqbal performed in domestic and PSL- justified
Hafeez performed- correct selection

So on and so forth.

The fact is if performers can’t even hack it at this level then why is that the selector’s fault? Did we really need the likes of Imad Wasim to help us win this?

The guys who blew it it’s their fault and nobody else’s.

Big words coming from Malik who’s created drifts in the team, stole shots of players and famously got bowled first ball by Hardik “call me McGrath” Pandya in the World Cup. Malik is a slow coach when it comes to batting and is only good in chasing small to medium totals, never has he made runs when building a score.

Spot on. The problem as always is the gap between our domestic cricket and internationals. Whilst it's narrowed since the new structure, the talent pool is very weak once you take out the centrally contracted players.

The same Danish Aziz and Asif Ali we're all criticising averaged 74 and 56 in the recent Pakistan Cup, so from a purely numbers POV then one cannot accuse Mohammad Wasim of ignoring the data.

The problem is you need to sometimes dive deeper than the numbers. Asif Ali's previous international failures should've meant his domestic form should've been ignored. And yes Danish Aziz performed, but all the PC matches were at the tiny UBL Sports Complex Ground on dead pitches against attacks missing the national team stars.

And this talk about our players lacking game intelligence/cricketing IQ again stems from our domestic cricket. The teams are hardly doing any opposition analysis or developing data based strategies with perhaps the exception of Southern Punjab. Look at Khushdil Shah - after one over I could've told you to literally bowl everything outside off but these domestic idiots keep feeding him in his hitting arc hence his domestic numbers !

Yet when they graduate to internationals, teams who do their homework will expose their weaknesses.

 

[Line and Length]

Venomous. Strange from Malik - the winds of change were already in his favor, Misbah would've had to compromise - all he had to was wait.

I'm pretty sure he's aware of this and spoke out in spite of it. Imagine how poor the dressing room environment and lack of respect for Misbah there is, that a player, who would be a prime candidate to get a spot in the team speaks out against Misbah despite of his own position with the T20 WC in mind.

 

[Bewal Express]

SM has had a 2 decade career but has achieved little. Far more talented players barely get 3 years in international
players and he has managed to somehow talk himself into 23 years. The guy has never been able to play fast bowling and he made 82mph bowlers look like Allan Donald. Why is he still talked about?

 

[Rana]

People hate Shoaib Malik for whatever reason

But the man is speaking the truth here. Misbah and Waqar are running the national side on likes and dislikes. Is this a lie?

 

[Canistani Hero]

Babar should speak to PCB about being made a dummy captain. Misbah cant be calling all the shots.

 

[Titan24]

Clarity, approach, strategies, tactics etc a lot has left to be desired in the coaching/management side along with some aspects of selection especially in white ball cricket but, I dont think currently active cricketers speaking such thing openly in the social media is the way to go especially at a time where one would say the person was looking for the opportunity to lash out. However, when quite a few players have been unsatisfied some outside the team and contract openly while some around the team as per rumors than it makes people wonder what exactly is going an and is everyone outside is spiting out venom just because they are not in the team or there is something which is actually not right

Pak has won some good matches in last 2-3 months or so and credit should be given where its due but, yes I dont think the performance has not been upto the optimal level which some of these players should be performing at except maybe 2-4 guys. The way some of the middle order guys in white ball cricket who have been playing against much much better bowlers in Pak domestic circuit are completely failing at international level raises doubts that maybe something isnt right with regards to the overall mindset in the dressing room.

Yes the overall results in the past few months have been upto the level which one would expect from a mid tier team and the rankings also reflect it better now with (5,6,4 respectively in different formats) but, the process could have been much more convincing.

Again I am not saying or implying that Misbah is the obstacle between Pak and the road of world domination but, just like the case has been in last few years we are seeing underperformance in quite a few areas which havent exactly been reflected in the results this time around that much due to certain players naturally maturing with experience, entering or nearing their peaks and putting in some mammoth efforts.

While I dont like active players putting in such views on social media as someone as senior as Malik can forward his concerns to the relevant people pretty easily but, yes there are quite a few areas in the team which are not performing optimally due to one reason or another. Its been two years for this coaching setup, yes there have been few good wins alongside some surprising losses and poor overseas tours but, I dont think anybody can say Pak team is currently a well oiled one or even heading towards that at the moment.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

What is wrong with Malik? Why would he make a statement like this?

Whether he is right or wrong is besides the point. This kind of irresponsible statement isn't going to endure him to anyone in the dressing room and minimize any chances he has of getting selected.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Venomous. Strange from Malik - the winds of change were already in his favor, Misbah would've had to compromise - all he had to was wait.

So true.

 

[Saj]

People hate Shoaib Malik for whatever reason

But the man is speaking the truth here. Misbah and Waqar are running the national side on likes and dislikes. Is this a lie?

Misbah and Waqar keep getting paired-up.

It should either be just Misbah, or it should be Misbah, Waqar and Younis Khan.

 

[hitthestump]

What is wrong with Malik? Why would he make a statement like this?

Whether he is right or wrong is besides the point. This kind of irresponsible statement isn't going to endure him to anyone in the dressing room and minimize any chances he has of getting selected.

The frustration gets the better of people sometimes. Plus we're Pakistan - not exactly known for professionalism.

 

[daytrader]

I'm pretty sure he's aware of this and spoke out in spite of it. Imagine how poor the dressing room environment and lack of respect for Misbah there is, that a player, who would be a prime candidate to get a spot in the team speaks out against Misbah despite of his own position with the T20 WC in mind.

I've been a big supporter of Malik but he's in the wrong here. I think he's being selfish and looking at a career beyond playing in the national team. Maybe he's looking to be a commentator or a youtube expert. Misbah probably had a talk with him that it's between you and Hafeez with Hafeez getting the nod right now.

Misbah's not losing respect here, it's Malik who's losing fans.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The frustration gets the better of people sometimes. Plus we're Pakistan - not exactly known for professionalism.

Expected better from a guy who has been playing cricket for over 20 years. But apparently this is becoming a new normal now; first Amir, now him. Doesn't look good at all.

 

[Rana]

Misbah and Waqar keep getting paired-up.

It should either be just Misbah, or it should be Misbah, Waqar and Younis Khan.

Fair enough. But do you know something we don’t? Does Younis Khan interfere in Team/Final XI selection?

 

[Titan24]

Misbah and Waqar keep getting paired-up.

It should either be just Misbah, or it should be Misbah, Waqar and Younis Khan.

Surprisingly all 3 have had their fare share of management issues with players. Waqar when he was captain, coach and bowling coach, Misbah when he was captain was targeted by some ex players due to his overall approach and now as coach even by currently active players, Younis had sort of a mini revolution against him when he was the captain.

Maybe Younis Khan isnt being talked about as much currently because he is comparatively new to the role and as a batting coach it looks like he has taken bit of a back seat based upon his press conferences.

 

[Saj]

Fair enough. But do you know something we don’t? Does Younis Khan interfere in Team/Final XI selection?

Misbah has the final say on selection of the XI during a tour.

Mohammad Wasim has the final say on the squad.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Malik must know something that we don’t. Why would you speak out against the coach just before the WT20, and knowing that your competitors are struggling to take your spot.

He’s probably been told that he’s not wanted back.

Agreed, I don't think he's this stupid.

It's either he won't be making it back, or something far worse, where it could get interesting. Perhaps the players will try to stage an uprising of sorts against Misbah to get him kicked out.

I know that from recent remarks, Babar is very disappointed at the management.

This could be the perfect ploy from Malik to get Misbah out of the team. The likes of Amir and Imad will agree immediately. All that's needed for this to happen is one extremely influential player on the team to say something against Misbah, and that will either be Babar Azam or Shaheen Shah Afridi in my opinion.

Either the best batsman or the best bowler will have to say something against Misbah.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Misbah has the final say on selection of the XI during a tour.

Mohammad Wasim has the final say on the squad.

Saj, what are your thoughts on this?

Do you think that some players excluded from the team will attempt to boot Misbah out of management?

Like do you think Imad Wasim, Mohammad Amir, Shoaib Malik, and perhaps even players on the team will speak out against him?

 

[Majid Khan]

It doesn’t matter frankly who becomes coach and Chief selector for Pakistan cricket team, there will Always be former players, fans, commentators who will criticise and blame them for all the ills of Pakistan cricket.

If for the sake of argument , Imran Khan became Chief Selector / Head Coach , Javed Miandad as his Batting Coach , Wasim Akram as fast bowling coach , there’s every chance that failed cricketers like Malik, Hafeez, Amir, Afridi, Tanveer Ahmed, Abdur Razzaq would not hesitate to publicly criticise these guys as well and say they don’t know anything about how to play cricket and respect seniors.

There’s no hope here, when people are opportunists , waiting for the right time to jump in when the heat is on , and criticise just for the sake of criticism, just like the Pakistani politicians.

 

[topspin]

I've been a big supporter of Malik but he's in the wrong here. I think he's being selfish and looking at a career beyond playing in the national team. Maybe he's looking to be a commentator or a youtube expert. Misbah probably had a talk with him that it's between you and Hafeez with Hafeez getting the nod right now.

Misbah's not losing respect here, it's Malik who's losing fans.

Pakistan's worst loss since 2007 WC against Ireland BUT BUT he's not losing respect here.

Great logic by Misbah fans

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Spot on. The problem as always is the gap between our domestic cricket and internationals. Whilst it's narrowed since the new structure, the talent pool is very weak once you take out the centrally contracted players.

The same Danish Aziz and Asif Ali we're all criticising averaged 74 and 56 in the recent Pakistan Cup, so from a purely numbers POV then one cannot accuse Mohammad Wasim of ignoring the data.

The problem is you need to sometimes dive deeper than the numbers. Asif Ali's previous international failures should've meant his domestic form should've been ignored. And yes Danish Aziz performed, but all the PC matches were at the tiny UBL Sports Complex Ground on dead pitches against attacks missing the national team stars.

And this talk about our players lacking game intelligence/cricketing IQ again stems from our domestic cricket. The teams are hardly doing any opposition analysis or developing data based strategies with perhaps the exception of Southern Punjab. Look at Khushdil Shah - after one over I could've told you to literally bowl everything outside off but these domestic idiots keep feeding him in his hitting arc hence his domestic numbers !

Yet when they graduate to internationals, teams who do their homework will expose their weaknesses.

My only point is we must stop doing all this scapegoating and take personal responsibility for our actions which the team must do at this point to learn and use this as a stepping stone that pick Team Pakistan and not Team "best friends". This is why i'm against recent captains/players being coaches cause they can influence decisions, this isn't Misbah's team anymore and Babar must step up and speak that no I will pick the final XI. Pakistan now is gonna go full strength on Sunday which is gonna be really silly with the likes of Shaheen when the bowling did their job.

 

[ahmedzee]

Even if Malik doesn't deserve a place in the side, what he said was not wrong. We have Misbah as coach, who was a failed white ball captain and player, a very defensive player who plays to not lose, rather than plays to win.

This team is going nowhere if Misbah is incharge.

My suggestion would be:
Make a separate coach for white ball cricket, and leave Misbah for tests.

 

[Zaz]

How is this all on M. Wasim? He picked the right players and we couldn’t hack it to play out 20 overs to make 119 runs????

Danish Aziz performed in the domestic league- justified
Arshad Iqbal performed in domestic and PSL- justified
Hafeez performed- correct selection

So on and so forth.

The fact is if performers can’t even hack it at this level then why is that the selector’s fault? Did we really need the likes of Imad Wasim to help us win this?

The guys who blew it it’s their fault and nobody else’s.

Big words coming from Malik who’s created drifts in the team, stole shots of players and famously got bowled first ball by Hardik “call me McGrath” Pandya in the World Cup. Malik is a slow coach when it comes to batting and is only good in chasing small to medium totals, never has he made runs when building a score.

How did he pick the right players? Danish aziz avges 12 in t20 cricket The less said about Asif Ali the better

Dont tell me their recent performances One swallow doesnt make a summer These players have mediocre domestic records over years

We may not have a great domestic system that polishes players but the least a decent selector can do is pick players that are the best from the structure and we arent even doing that

If you pick players avging in their teens how do you expect them to score more than that?

 

[Farabi]

How did he pick the right players? Danish aziz avges 12 in t20 cricket The less said about Asif Ali the better

Dont tell me their recent performances One swallow doesnt make a summer These players have mediocre domestic records over years

We may not have a great domestic system that polishes players but the least a decent selector can do is pick players that are the best from the structure and we arent even doing that

If you pick players avging in their teens how do you expect them to score more than that?

Thanks! I complete agree.
Granted Pakistan’s domestic is not perfect but something is better than nothing lol
Even if the standard is low, it’s low for all the batsmen, so those who do well are the best of the lot.
We don’t even pick our most seasoned domestic batsmen, pick rookies which makes the domestic system worse than it actually is

 

[Major]

Malik issue is that babar wants him in the team but misbah doesnt so obviously he will now have issue with coach having influence.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

How did he pick the right players? Danish aziz avges 12 in t20 cricket The less said about Asif Ali the better

Dont tell me their recent performances One swallow doesnt make a summer These players have mediocre domestic records over years

We may not have a great domestic system that polishes players but the least a decent selector can do is pick players that are the best from the structure and we arent even doing that

If you pick players avging in their teens how do you expect them to score more than that?

Even our most average players should be chasing this, Zimbabwe is no Australia, South Africa, NZ etc. Danish performed in the most recent series and whoever is recently performing then you pick them.

Typical mentality, blame the selection and not the players and their rubbish shot selections themselves. You shouldn't have to have the likes of Malik, Hafeez, Babar and Rizwan guiding you against a clearly weak team who might i remind has no sponsorship, no funding and lesser facilities than ourselves. If players are not grabbing chances by the horns then that is their fault and the onus is on them.

Asif Ali is one man and the rest should've done the job end of, 119 is not a tough ask and the shots played today were nothing less than amateur.

With regards to Malik i wouldn't select him to open my mail, the guy causes rifts, plays for himself, does nothing on the big stage and whenever it came to big games in the t20 cup has done nothing, his only performance that i can remember that was somewhat memorable was back in the 2007 t20 Cup against Australia.

 

[daytrader]

Pakistan's worst loss since 2007 WC against Ireland BUT BUT he's not losing respect here.

Great logic by Misbah fans

Did you forget about WC19 opener against WI? To me that was way more humiliating than this. I can forgive this loss because it's an inconsequential series, we're on the road to a t20wc and experimenting with the playing XI. But there was no excuse for the loss to WI. We had months to prepare and acclimatize to the English conditions but we were caught like a deer in headlights on the grandest stage of all!

To each their own

 

[criclover2311]

Did you forget about WC19 opener against WI? To me that was way more humiliating than this. I can forgive this loss because it's an inconsequential series, we're on the road to a t20wc and experimenting with the playing XI. But there was no excuse for the loss to WI. We had months to prepare and acclimatize to the English conditions but we were caught like a deer in headlights on the grandest stage of all!

To each their own

Yes unfortunately Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz did not have power or balls to remove Malik from XI, Haris was sitting outside, they also did not remove failing Hafeez who did not score in 2019 WC. That's why I am against weak foreign coaches, atleast Misbah holds his stance and has power.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Good to see the man of the tournament of the 2019 World Cup and 2007 World Cup speak out against Misbah.

 

[Smbhayi]

Malik was mediocre at his peak or atleast from last 7-8 years, I wonder what he'll do now, he occupied the place of few good players esp. Haris Sohail, thanks to his failure in his 2019 wc or Haris would not have come in, I think Fakhar/Hafeez can play role at 5 or six with Sharjeel coming in at top, Rizwan/Babar at three. There's Azam Khan waiting.

I can't understand what is Pak fans obsession with Harris Sohail and Shoaib Maqsood..! Especially Harris who is injured/not having match fitness almost all the time..

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Yes unfortunately Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz did not have power or balls to remove Malik from XI, Haris was sitting outside, they also did not remove failing Hafeez who did not score in 2019 WC. That's why I am against weak foreign coaches, atleast Misbah holds his stance and has power.

Haris played that match malik didn't

 

[criclover2311]

I can't understand what is Pak fans obsession with Harris Sohail and Shoaib Maqsood..! Especially Harris who is injured/not having match fitness almost all the time..

Better performer than Malik, performances speak for itself. Sohaib Maqsood was another Malik, Haris has played all good innings in matches against big teams and on big occasions. I am not in favor of bringing unfit Haris, just pointing out a man with connections and PR like Malik had occupied positions of many such talented players and have lost us tournaments as well.

 

[Baigel]

I say hand the reigns over to either Malik or Akhtar.

I’m not throwing them under the bus, but we need to mix things up.

Let’s see what they’re made of.

 

[criclover2311]

Haris played that match malik didn't

Only confirms my point, he was dropped after one failure against west indies when no one from team scored, and Malik brought in who failed horribly in next three matches, Result vs Australia could be different had Haris played, he was brought too late but rightly so he won games against NZ and Africa.

My point is not Haris Sohail, but players like Malik who seem to have telepathic connections in team, and keep taking places of talented players eventually costing us big matches. At that point Haris and Malik were class apart, yet one failure and right back this mediocre comes in, lost us two matches against India and Australia, then departs under public pressure.

 

[criclover2311]

I say hand the reigns over to either Malik or Akhtar.

I’m not throwing them under the bus, but we need to mix things up.

Let’s see what they’re made of.

No their job is of criticism and they're suited to that role, it keeps the pressure on guy at top and hence beneficial for the team, but only one man at top can bring the results, we can't keep changing authority every few months if we want results. Love the game not the player.