Where does Inzamam-ul-Haq rank amongst the greatest batsmen of all-time?

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It was virtually Inzamam Ul Haq's miraculous intervention in the 1992 semi-final versus New Zeland that from the depths of despair ressurected Pakistan to the pinnacle of glory with one of the most exhilarating displays of batting ever witnessed.He simply turned the complexion of game reminiscent of a thunderstorm emerging in no mansland. It was this very character that Inzamam displayed throughout his carer surpassing any contemporary batsmen as a match-winners statistically,averaging 78+ in tests won ,with 17 of his 25 centuries ending up in wins.Morally Inzy averaged just above 50 ,including a triple century.For a sustained period of 6 years he averaged above 60 which was remarkable.Arguably no batsmen of his time was so adept against genuine pace or played it with such consummate ease.On his day Inzy was flamboyance personified and could be the ultimate man to ressurect a side from the grave.He lacked the technical correctness of Hanif Mohamad or the elegance of Zaheer Abbas or the determination of Javed Minadad but for pure prowess he may have even joined the Tendulkar's and Lara's.Inzy's batting had a characteristic languid style.His strokeplay blended the power of a motorboat to punish bowling with the craftsmanship of a weaver to dissect fields.He combined his razor sharp reflexes and footwork.He carried his bat like a lumberjack.Imran Khan ranked Inzy as the most talented batsmen of his time and best batsmen against pace.Inzy had the ability to take creativity in bating to metaphysical proportions.Above all he was a most un-selfish batsmen always putting the team's interest above his like when retiring before surpassing Javed Miandad's record aggregate of 8832 runs.



In Test cricket my most memorable moments of Inzamam werre his unbeaten 58 in 1994 at Karachi when he ressurected Pakistan from the grave to pull of a miracle in heroic last wicket stand ,his unbeaten 138 against Bangladesh in 2004 which again performed a Houdini act ,his century versus England in the 1st test on the home series in 2006 which won a test from a capricious position and his match-winning centuries at Bangalore in 2005 enabling Pakistan to square the series.It is hard to envisage any Pakistan batsmen ever or any batsmen of his era who displayed so much coolness in a crisis to turn games and instill so much confidence to team mates.Inzamam 's innings have secured important wins for Pakistan in West Indies ,England ,India and New Zealand in tests.Javed was more consistent in a crisis but could not equal Inzamam's ability to turn the complexion of games.Like Javed Miandad Inzamam was master in run chases in ODI's planning his innings with the precision of an architect and taking his side across the line with the flourish of a boxer.I would not be surprised that team mates or tail enders could be more inspired batting with Inzy than Sachin ,Lara or Ponting.He also proved his penchant for mammoth scores when scoring 329 versus Bangladesh.His batting posessed a subtle element of wristwork to complement his power.I would have loved to witness Inzamam face Lillee and Thomson at their fastest and the great West Indies pace quartet.Somehow I would have backed Inzy to tackle them even better than Sachin or Lara who were not at their best against the bouncing delivery.Inzamam's batting could generate or boost a morale in his team mates more than any batsmen of his time.

However he was not a fast runner between wickets which could often contribute to his down fall.He was also not at his best against Australia and South Africa ,the premier teams of his day,both at home and away.He amassed more of his run son home turf and overseas he was at his best in New Zealand and West Indies where he averaged around 60.He was also consistent in England averaging close to 50.Arguably no batsmen played Ambrose or Walsh with such remorseless ease which he proved with his big scores against West Indies,who even if a depleted side has great pacemen.At his best he was a revelation in South Africa when scoring 99 in 1994 playing Alan Donald like a spinner.Inzy often was troubled by the moving ball because of his cross bat technique and often be a leg before victim.



What goes against Inzamam was his inabilty to take Pakistan to the status of champion team in his era unlike Javed Miandad,Zaheer Abbas and Majid Khan.He was almost as good as Miandad away ,but Javed fared better bowling.Consistently he did not display the application of a Rahul Dravid,Tendulkar,Lara or Ponting and could often look aloof.I would bracket Inzamam with batsmen like David Gower,V.V.S.Laxman,Gundappa Vishwanath ,Mark Waugh or Kevin Pieterson who all had outstanding natural talent but fell out because of lack of sheer application.In his era VVS Laxman was closest to Inzamam.I would select Inzamam amongst my 100 best cricketers and 50 best batsmen of all time .Inzamam is in major contention for the title of the best Pakistani batsmen of all time but overall overshadowed just by a whisker by Javed Miandad or arguably Hanif Mohammad.His rank may be debated but in my book I would always award Inzamam the stature of a truly great batsmen and not just a very good one.
 
Nobody outside Pakistan really cares about Inzi. Even most people in Pakistan don't care about Inzi. All his batting achievements have been marred by his pathetic indoctrination of his team mates and for bringing religion into the sport. The debacle of 2007 WC will go down as the worst ever event in the history of Pakistan Cricket and Inzi's finger prints are all over that tragedy.

Still, hope you get another POTW, as that is what this thread's sole purpose seems like.
 
I'd put him with people like David Gower, Martin Crowe, Dean Jones, Azhar and Pietersen. Extremely dangerous but not quite elite. Might have been elite if he had watched his fitness.
 
Best ever player of sheer pace

He had amazing band eye coordination for someone so big.
 
Pretty high. Inzi was made of steel. I would put him in the same level as Steve Waugh. Miles ahead of pretenders who disappeared whenever there's pressure. Easily one of the top 3 batsmen from subcontinent and #1 when pressure is on.
 
It was virtually Inzamam Ul Haq's miraculous intervention in the 1992 semi-final versus New Zeland that from the depths of despair ressurected Pakistan to the pinnacle of glory with one of the most exhilarating displays of batting ever witnessed.He simply turned the complexion of game reminiscent of a thunderstorm emerging in no mansland. It was this very character that Inzamam displayed throughout his carer surpassing any contemporary batsmen as a match-winners statistically,averaging 78+ in tests won ,with 17 of his 25 centuries ending up in wins.Morally Inzy averaged just above 50 ,including a triple century.For a sustained period of 6 years he averaged above 60 which was remarkable.Arguably no batsmen of his time was so adept against genuine pace or played it with such consummate ease.On his day Inzy was flamboyance personified and could be the ultimate man to ressurect a side from the grave.He lacked the technical correctness of Hanif Mohamad or the elegance of Zaheer Abbas or the determination of Javed Minadad but for pure prowess he may have even joined the Tendulkar's and Lara's.Inzy's batting had a characteristic languid style.His strokeplay blended the power of a motorboat to punish bowling with the craftsmanship of a weaver to dissect fields.He combined his razor sharp reflexes and footwork.He carried his bat like a lumberjack.Imran Khan ranked Inzy as the most talented batsmen of his time and best batsmen against pace.Inzy had the ability to take creativity in bating to metaphysical proportions.Above all he was a most un-selfish batsmen always putting the team's interest above his like when retiring before surpassing Javed Miandad's record aggregate of 8832 runs.



In Test cricket my most memorable moments of Inzamam werre his unbeaten 58 in 1994 at Karachi when he ressurected Pakistan from the grave to pull of a miracle in heroic last wicket stand ,his unbeaten 138 against Bangladesh in 2004 which again performed a Houdini act ,his century versus England in the 1st test on the home series in 2006 which won a test from a capricious position and his match-winning centuries at Bangalore in 2005 enabling Pakistan to square the series.It is hard to envisage any Pakistan batsmen ever or any batsmen of his era who displayed so much coolness in a crisis to turn games and instill so much confidence to team mates.Inzamam 's innings have secured important wins for Pakistan in West Indies ,England ,India and New Zealand in tests.Javed was more consistent in a crisis but could not equal Inzamam's ability to turn the complexion of games.Like Javed Miandad Inzamam was master in run chases in ODI's planning his innings with the precision of an architect and taking his side across the line with the flourish of a boxer.I would not be surprised that team mates or tail enders could be more inspired batting with Inzy than Sachin ,Lara or Ponting.He also proved his penchant for mammoth scores when scoring 329 versus Bangladesh.His batting posessed a subtle element of wristwork to complement his power.I would have loved to witness Inzamam face Lillee and Thomson at their fastest and the great West Indies pace quartet.Somehow I would have backed Inzy to tackle them even better than Sachin or Lara who were not at their best against the bouncing delivery.Inzamam's batting could generate or boost a morale in his team mates more than any batsmen of his time.

However he was not a fast runner between wickets which could often contribute to his down fall.He was also not at his best against Australia and South Africa ,the premier teams of his day,both at home and away.He amassed more of his run son home turf and overseas he was at his best in New Zealand and West Indies where he averaged around 60.He was also consistent in England averaging close to 50.Arguably no batsmen played Ambrose or Walsh with such remorseless ease which he proved with his big scores against West Indies,who even if a depleted side has great pacemen.At his best he was a revelation in South Africa when scoring 99 in 1994 playing Alan Donald like a spinner.Inzy often was troubled by the moving ball because of his cross bat technique and often be a leg before victim.



What goes against Inzamam was his inabilty to take Pakistan to the status of champion team in his era unlike Javed Miandad,Zaheer Abbas and Majid Khan.He was almost as good as Miandad away ,but Javed fared better bowling.Consistently he did not display the application of a Rahul Dravid,Tendulkar,Lara or Ponting and could often look aloof.I would bracket Inzamam with batsmen like David Gower,V.V.S.Laxman,Gundappa Vishwanath ,Mark Waugh or Kevin Pieterson who all had outstanding natural talent but fell out because of lack of sheer application.In his era VVS Laxman was closest to Inzamam.I would select Inzamam amongst my 100 best cricketers and 50 best batsmen of all time .Inzamam is in major contention for the title of the best Pakistani batsmen of all time but overall overshadowed just by a whisker by Javed Miandad or arguably Hanif Mohammad.His rank may be debated but in my book I would always award Inzamam the stature of a truly great batsmen and not just a very good one.



Good post. I grew up watching him perhaps right after his peak (96 World Cup onwards). Unlike Anwar, Ijaz, Amir Sohail, whenever Inzi came onto the crease, there was a sense of comfort that he was going to stick it out. Anwar was beautiful to watch, but too edgy (no pun intended).

Inzi always stabilized the ship, and him and MoYo were absolute gems for Pakistan in the late 90s early 2000s. I dont know if there's a stat available, but they more often than not had substantial partnerships, especially in Asian conditions.

Perhaps a Pakistani all-time great, and would fit into the Pakistan ODI XI in the middle order easily. I almost feel as if the Inzi post-2004 was a different person to the one before that.

Pre-2004, before becoming captain, he was docile, yet extremely aggressive whenever he needed to be on the field and was a pure dynamo. Post captaincy, he played some great knocks, but captaincy changed him as a person, and not for the better. His playing style also changed, as he (in a typical Pakistani captain fashion) demoted himself further down the order, and played it safe more often than not. Inzi of the past would have scoffed at that.

He was his own worst enemy at the end of the day. Could've easily beeen an All Time ODI great, but (barring 92 Semi-Final) bad WC performances, combined with bizarre character turnaround post-2004 impacted him.

Fondest memory of him for me was his match-winning century against Sri Lanka in 98 tri-series in South Africa. Sri Lanka was as strong as ever, and Pakistan (yes at that time as well) were notoriously bad chasers. Played a hell of a knock to chase down 295, which is akin to chasing 360-370 today. Dont think Inzi post-2004 could've managed it.

I will always be thankful to him for those memories, because as a kid, cricket was my life, and I couldn't bear to watch Pakistan lose even a single time. It was deep into the night, and I was 8 years old, and when he was bating, I successfully lobbied my parents to let me stay up with them to watch the match, because I knew that as long as Inzi was there, there was not only a chance, but a fighting one at that.

It was Eid around those days, and Inzi's knock made my Eid a lot better. The next morning, I woke up, and played cricket in my porch in Model Town, Lahore with my friends, and I adopted his batting stance while batting, feeling empowered (slight hunch, bat raised 45 degrees as the ball approached me). Never felt so good.

I dont know if its (standard) nostalgia, but I cant seem to invest in our players anymore, because to me they just dont have the charm of someone like Inzi (and others, which I wont get into right now). Call me when they come into the crease, chewing gum, making you feel at ease the moment they're in, and making you believe that they can win it for you, not out of fortune, but out of grit and strength.
 
Good post. I grew up watching him perhaps right after his peak (96 World Cup onwards). Unlike Anwar, Ijaz, Amir Sohail, whenever Inzi came onto the crease, there was a sense of comfort that he was going to stick it out. Anwar was beautiful to watch, but too edgy (no pun intended).

Inzi always stabilized the ship, and him and MoYo were absolute gems for Pakistan in the late 90s early 2000s. I dont know if there's a stat available, but they more often than not had substantial partnerships, especially in Asian conditions.

Perhaps a Pakistani all-time great, and would fit into the Pakistan ODI XI in the middle order easily. I almost feel as if the Inzi post-2004 was a different person to the one before that.

Pre-2004, before becoming captain, he was docile, yet extremely aggressive whenever he needed to be on the field and was a pure dynamo. Post captaincy, he played some great knocks, but captaincy changed him as a person, and not for the better. His playing style also changed, as he (in a typical Pakistani captain fashion) demoted himself further down the order, and played it safe more often than not. Inzi of the past would have scoffed at that.

He was his own worst enemy at the end of the day. Could've easily beeen an All Time ODI great, but (barring 92 Semi-Final) bad WC performances, combined with bizarre character turnaround post-2004 impacted him.

Fondest memory of him for me was his match-winning century against Sri Lanka in 98 tri-series in South Africa. Sri Lanka was as strong as ever, and Pakistan (yes at that time as well) were notoriously bad chasers. Played a hell of a knock to chase down 295, which is akin to chasing 360-370 today. Dont think Inzi post-2004 could've managed it.

I will always be thankful to him for those memories, because as a kid, cricket was my life, and I couldn't bear to watch Pakistan lose even a single time. It was deep into the night, and I was 8 years old, and when he was bating, I successfully lobbied my parents to let me stay up with them to watch the match, because I knew that as long as Inzi was there, there was not only a chance, but a fighting one at that.

It was Eid around those days, and Inzi's knock made my Eid a lot better. The next morning, I woke up, and played cricket in my porch in Model Town, Lahore with my friends, and I adopted his batting stance while batting, feeling empowered (slight hunch, bat raised 45 degrees as the ball approached me). Never felt so good.

I dont know if its (standard) nostalgia, but I cant seem to invest in our players anymore, because to me they just dont have the charm of someone like Inzi (and others, which I wont get into right now). Call me when they come into the crease, chewing gum, making you feel at ease the moment they're in, and making you believe that they can win it for you, not out of fortune, but out of grit and strength.

POTW for me. Lovely description with a great personal touch!
 
Inzi was a few levels below the top tier. A very good batsmen and a very nice human being. However he ranks outside top 5 Asian batsmen and possibly outside top 30 in the world.
 
Inzi was a few levels below the top tier. A very good batsmen and a very nice human being. However he ranks outside top 5 Asian batsmen and possibly outside top 30 in the world.

Agree with this. I'd arguably rank him seventh among top Asian batsmen: below Tendulkar, Kohli, Gavaskar, Dravid, Sangakkara, and Miandad.

I reckon Inzi makes the list of top 15 batsmen that played in the last 25 years though along with the likes of Ponting, Steve Waugh, Steve Smith, Pietersen, Tendulkar, Kohli, Dravid, Kallis, de Villiers, Graeme Smith, Sangakkara, Lara, Younis and Chanderpaul. He'd probably be outside the top 10 out of those though.
 
Inzamam is one of the best ODI batsmen of all time (definitely among top 5).

He kind of underachieved in Test but he can still be considered as a Test legend.

Overall, a complete legend. He is my favorite Pakistani batsman of all time.
 
Definately no 2 as far as Pakistan is concerned overall or maybe no 3 after Miandad and YK in test matches. In ODI's, definately no 1,2 or 3 with Miandad, Yousaf depending on how you look at it. For me he is no 3 in test matches and No 2 in ODI's.
 
The comfort you felt as a Pakistani fan whenever Inzamam came out to bat in a crisis situation, never to be felt again, you always knew he was going to catch up after going through the consolidation period
 
Massively under achieved!

I reckon he only made 50% of what his god given talent should of allowed him to do.

Saying that I think he is top 5 in both test cricket and one day cricket.
 
The comfort you felt as a Pakistani fan whenever Inzamam came out to bat in a crisis situation, never to be felt again, you always knew he was going to catch up after going through the consolidation period
Absolutely agree As talented as Tendulkar and better against pace than Lara in your view?
 
Agree with this. I'd arguably rank him seventh among top Asian batsmen: below Tendulkar, Kohli, Gavaskar, Dravid, Sangakkara, and Miandad.

I reckon Inzi makes the list of top 15 batsmen that played in the last 25 years though along with the likes of Ponting, Steve Waugh, Steve Smith, Pietersen, Tendulkar, Kohli, Dravid, Kallis, de Villiers, Graeme Smith, Sangakkara, Lara, Younis and Chanderpaul. He'd probably be outside the top 10 out of those though.

Better than Zaheer Abbas?
 
Inzi was a few levels below the top tier. A very good batsmen and a very nice human being. However he ranks outside top 5 Asian batsmen and possibly outside top 30 in the world.

Equal to David Gower or Martin Crowe?What about Sehwag?
 
Good post. I grew up watching him perhaps right after his peak (96 World Cup onwards). Unlike Anwar, Ijaz, Amir Sohail, whenever Inzi came onto the crease, there was a sense of comfort that he was going to stick it out. Anwar was beautiful to watch, but too edgy (no pun intended).

Inzi always stabilized the ship, and him and MoYo were absolute gems for Pakistan in the late 90s early 2000s. I dont know if there's a stat available, but they more often than not had substantial partnerships, especially in Asian conditions.

Perhaps a Pakistani all-time great, and would fit into the Pakistan ODI XI in the middle order easily. I almost feel as if the Inzi post-2004 was a different person to the one before that.

Pre-2004, before becoming captain, he was docile, yet extremely aggressive whenever he needed to be on the field and was a pure dynamo. Post captaincy, he played some great knocks, but captaincy changed him as a person, and not for the better. His playing style also changed, as he (in a typical Pakistani captain fashion) demoted himself further down the order, and played it safe more often than not. Inzi of the past would have scoffed at that.

He was his own worst enemy at the end of the day. Could've easily beeen an All Time ODI great, but (barring 92 Semi-Final) bad WC performances, combined with bizarre character turnaround post-2004 impacted him.

Fondest memory of him for me was his match-winning century against Sri Lanka in 98 tri-series in South Africa. Sri Lanka was as strong as ever, and Pakistan (yes at that time as well) were notoriously bad chasers. Played a hell of a knock to chase down 295, which is akin to chasing 360-370 today. Dont think Inzi post-2004 could've managed it.

I will always be thankful to him for those memories, because as a kid, cricket was my life, and I couldn't bear to watch Pakistan lose even a single time. It was deep into the night, and I was 8 years old, and when he was bating, I successfully lobbied my parents to let me stay up with them to watch the match, because I knew that as long as Inzi was there, there was not only a chance, but a fighting one at that.

It was Eid around those days, and Inzi's knock made my Eid a lot better. The next morning, I woke up, and played cricket in my porch in Model Town, Lahore with my friends, and I adopted his batting stance while batting, feeling empowered (slight hunch, bat raised 45 degrees as the ball approached me). Never felt so good.

I dont know if its (standard) nostalgia, but I cant seem to invest in our players anymore, because to me they just dont have the charm of someone like Inzi (and others, which I wont get into right now). Call me when they come into the crease, chewing gum, making you feel at ease the moment they're in, and making you believe that they can win it for you, not out of fortune, but out of grit and strength.

Very analytical comment
 
Absolutely agree As talented as Tendulkar and better against pace than Lara in your view?

Lara was next level. In my view on ability Lara was above Tendulkar as well. What i loved about Lara was he would never change his natural game and on song bowlers looked clueless against him and wished to get off the field. Lara i felt eventually got bored and was not as ambitious as he should have been
 
Better than Zaheer Abbas?

Easily. Zaheer was an elegant batsman, but often failed to deceive against high quality bowling especially against the West Indian quartet. He also seldom performed under pressure, as underscored by his record in India as well. Kapil Dev had him on a string during the 79/80 series. I feel Zaheer is somewhat overrated by those of a certain vintage because of his record in England. I'd personally rate him as Pakistan's sixth best batsman of all time (behind Miandad, Inzamam, Younis, Hanif, and Yousuf).
 
As a complete all format bat, he may be Pakistan's best (babar coming for that throne soon ) but he falls a level below viv, tendulkar, ponting and Lara.

He falls into a category with miandad, gavaskar, Khan, Dravid, sanga, Smith and jaya. That is not bad company.
 
He was a good batsmen. Felt he played well under pressure most times.
But he seemed awesome because the quality of batsmen alongside him was mostly bad. The contrast effect. Having Nasir jamshed or Afridi other end would make Hanuma Vihari look the second coming of Vivian Richards!!
He seemed to have a lot of time on his hands though. A bit like rohit.
He was farcical in world cups. Astonishingly embarassing.
At the world level its hard to rate him amongst the best.
I would say he was nowhere near kohli rohit and tendalya in odis.
But he was a good bat.
 
He was a good batsmen. Felt he played well under pressure most times.
But he seemed awesome because the quality of batsmen alongside him was mostly bad. The contrast effect. Having Nasir jamshed or Afridi other end would make Hanuma Vihari look the second coming of Vivian Richards!!
He seemed to have a lot of time on his hands though. A bit like rohit.
He was farcical in world cups. Astonishingly embarassing.
At the world level its hard to rate him amongst the best.
I would say he was nowhere near kohli rohit and tendalya in odis.
But he was a good bat.

U trollin?

lolz. Afridi murdered every Indian spinner/trundler he faced. Over and over. My childhood :yk From Srinath to Kumar and Kumble to Ashwin.

Nasir Jamshed has centuries against India in India.
 
As a complete all format bat, he may be Pakistan's best (babar coming for that throne soon ) but he falls a level below viv, tendulkar, ponting and Lara.

He falls into a category with miandad, gavaskar, Khan, Dravid, sanga, Smith and jaya. That is not bad company.
Equal to Gavaskar and Dravid who were much better overseas and against top teams?
 
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U trollin?

lolz. Afridi murdered every Indian spinner/trundler he faced. Over and over. My childhood :yk From Srinath to Kumar and Kumble to Ashwin.

Nasir Jamshed has centuries against India in India.
Naah. I am serious.

Afridi has gifted us more matches on a platter than any other single international player. He was a walking wicket. The boom boom went bust 9 times out of 10.
It was a relief to see lala coming out to bat once a wicket fell. He was a generous man. Truly so.
So many crucial moments lost for pakistan in really important matches because he couldn't rotate the strike and mindlessly skied his 3rd delivery to long off.
A few innings of substance amidst such recklessness do not merit rating. He was a poor bat. A hack. A bad hack at that.

Nasir, I am judging on his overall record mainly. He was a mediocre player overall. A few centuries against a particular country hardly matter. Irfan has a hat-trick of the first 3 balls of the test match. He still tapered off badly and nobody rates him.
So yeah.
I cant rate Inzy knowing how pathetic and weak he was across SO MANY world cup matches. I think he was mentally weak to handle the pressure of a world tournament. A couple of tournaments could be explained away. But what he did in the world cup matches was as i said earlier, farcical.
Its interesting though that kohlis WC knockouts failures are exaggerated relentlessly (even though he has match winning performances against Australia and South Africa) but inzy failing across world cups for decades together is still not considered negatively.
Its simply silly to compare him with the likes of Sangakkara and tendalya.
He was at his best a slightly better version of Azharuddin.
 
Inzamam would be in Pakistan all time best XI for both formats , but he will not make best Asian XI for me. That is his best. He is on par with players like Mark Waugh , hayden , Gower etc. Not in the A plus list.
 
Seriously underachieved against the big teams. Just a lack of any sort of work ethic. I went to PK-Warwickshire game at Edgebaston in 96, and I went early to see the training sessions, he sat on a deck chair for 1 and 1/2 hours.
 
U trollin?

lolz. Afridi murdered every Indian spinner/trundler he faced. Over and over. My childhood :yk From Srinath to Kumar and Kumble to Ashwin.

Nasir Jamshed has centuries against India in India.

Lol afridi was a bunny of indian bowlers. Pathan and kumar had his number so many times and in such crucial times like world cup semis etc. Some people really live in la la land
 
Equal to Gavaskar and Dravid who were much better overseas and against top teams?

Are not Gavaskar and Dravid in the Lara or Tendulkar club?

Noway are Gavaskar and Dravid in the Tendulkar/Lara club, certainly across formats, which is how all modern cricketers are/should be judged.

If we're talking Inzy v Gavaskar or Dravid, he was a far superior, far more effective and more important ODI cricketer. The first name on all ODI cricket team lists in the 90s and early 00s.

As for tests he is about on par, if not better than those you mentioned. You said "much better overseas and against top teams?"...Inzy averages higher in and against just about every opposition when compared to Sunny. The exact same when compared to Dravid, also averages higher than Dravid in Australia, which you Indians talk about as the big rival so often these days. So where did your assessment come from?

Moving away from stats, Inzy was also one of those few batsmen who could change the course of the match with a few swings of his bat, something Sunny and Dravid could never do (Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara were also exceptional at this).

So, as I said, not quite top tier but just in that second tier of great batsmen.
 
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Noway are Gavaskar and Dravid in the Tendulkar/Lara club, certainly across formats, which is how all modern cricketers are/should be judged.

If we're talking Inzy v Gavaskar or Dravid, he was a far superior, far more effective and more important ODI cricketer. The first name on all ODI cricket team lists in the 90s and early 00s.

As for tests he is about on par, if not better than those you mentioned. You said "much better overseas and against top teams?"...Inzy averages higher in and against just about every opposition when compared to Sunny. The exact same when compared to Dravid, also averages higher than Dravid in Australia, which you Indians talk about as the big rival so often these days. So where did your assessment come from?

Moving away from stats, Inzy was also one of those few batsmen who could change the course of the match with a few swings of his bat, something Sunny and Dravid could never do (Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara were also exceptional at this).

So, as I said, not quite top tier but just in that second tier of great batsmen.

In test cricket Inzamam may not be in the league of Gavaskar if you consider the bowling attacks against whom
Gavaskar broke almost all the batting records. Many even rank Sunny only behind Bradman being an opening batsmen and singly carrying the brunt of the Indian batting struggle with Vishwanath for so limited by.Inzy has never matched Gavaskar in peak era from 1977-1980 or his best innings like 221 at the Oval and 96 at Bangalore in 1987 on a broken wicket.Dravid was much more consistent in a crisis and at one stage averaged over 66 overseas.Both Sunny and Rahul performed better against the best teams of their day than Inzamam.Inzy was more talented but not as reliance or consistent.Some even rank Gavaskar above Viv in test cricket.At one stage Dravid averaged more than Tendulkar.
 
In test cricket Inzamam may not be in the league of Gavaskar if you consider the bowling attacks against whom
Gavaskar broke almost all the batting records. Many even rank Sunny only behind Bradman being an opening batsmen and singly carrying the brunt of the Indian batting struggle with Vishwanath for so limited by.Inzy has never matched Gavaskar in peak era from 1977-1980 or his best innings like 221 at the Oval and 96 at Bangalore in 1987 on a broken wicket.Dravid was much more consistent in a crisis and at one stage averaged over 66 overseas.Both Sunny and Rahul performed better against the best teams of their day than Inzamam.Inzy was more talented but not as reliance or consistent.Some even rank Gavaskar above Viv in test cricket.At one stage Dravid averaged more than Tendulkar.

Inzamam was not fit enough and not hungry enough to be among the best, having potential is different, performing is different. Inzamam never batted up the order , he has 83 fifties and only 10 hundreds in 350 innings. That is simply not good enough.
 
not many batsmen who played predominantly in the 90's that average 40 with SR 75 in ODI, and Test average of 50

Dravid isn't a good comparison because he played into the 2010's when conditions were much more batting friendly.
Ganguly, Aravinda de Silva, Stephen Fleming, Mark and Steve Waugh are better comparisons, and Inzamam has better numbers than all of them.

He was among the very best of the 1990's batsmen
 
A very good player who has no defining legacy because of his spectacularly average record against two of the three best pace attacks of his time (Australia, South Africa).

For all the talk of how talented he was and how he seemed to have extra time when it came to playing pace, he didn’t translate that into runs.

However, he was a vital cog of Pakistan’s lineup for many years, played decent innings under pressure and also played one of the ATG World Cup knocks. Throughout the 90s before Yousuf emerged, he was a one man show in the middle-order.

Ijaz was an inconsistent hack and Saleem Malik was past his prime. Pakistani batting lineup was basically Saeed Anwar and Inzamam.

As an Asian batsman, he ranks below Tendulkar, Kohli, Gavaskar, Sangakkara, Miandad, Dravid, Rohit and Sehwag. Just about gets into the top 10 along with Mahela, Ganguly, Saeed Anwar and Laxman. As a Pakistan batsman, he is second only to Miandad.
 
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A very good player who has no defining legacy because of his spectacularly average record against two of the three best pace attacks of his time (Australia, South Africa).

For all the talk of how talented he was and how he seemed to have extra time when it came to playing pace, he didn’t translate that into runs.

However, he was a vital cog of Pakistan’s lineup for many years, played decent innings under pressure and also played one of the ATG World Cup knocks. Throughout the 90s before Yousuf emerged, he was a one man show in the middle-order.

Ijaz was an inconsistent hack and Saleem Malik was past his prime. Pakistani batting lineup was basically Saeed Anwar and Inzamam.

As an Asian batsman, he ranks below Tendulkar, Kohli, Gavaskar, Sangakkara, Miandad, Dravid, Rohit and Sehwag. Just about gets into the top 10 along with Mahela, Ganguly, Saeed Anwar and Laxman. As a Pakistan batsman, he is second only to Miandad.
How is rohit better than inzi.
You are really overrating rohit nowadays.
He is better in lois but he is a nobody in the premier format of the game.
 
How is rohit better than inzi.
You are really overrating rohit nowadays.
He is better in lois but he is a nobody in the premier format of the game.

Rohit is among the top 2-3 ODI openers of all time, while Inzamam doesn’t even make the top 20 in any format. That is enough for me to put Rohit a shade above Inzamam.
 
Excellent player. Would have gone down as ATG if not for his poor fitness.
 
A very good player who has no defining legacy because of his spectacularly average record against two of the three best pace attacks of his time (Australia, South Africa).

For all the talk of how talented he was and how he seemed to have extra time when it came to playing pace, he didn’t translate that into runs.

However, he was a vital cog of Pakistan’s lineup for many years, played decent innings under pressure and also played one of the ATG World Cup knocks. Throughout the 90s before Yousuf emerged, he was a one man show in the middle-order.

Ijaz was an inconsistent hack and Saleem Malik was past his prime. Pakistani batting lineup was basically Saeed Anwar and Inzamam.

As an Asian batsman, he ranks below Tendulkar, Kohli, Gavaskar, Sangakkara, Miandad, Dravid, Rohit and Sehwag. Just about gets into the top 10 along with Mahela, Ganguly, Saeed Anwar and Laxman. As a Pakistan batsman, he is second only to Miandad.

How would you compare Vishwanath withbaInzamam or other batsmen you club Inzy with?Or even Azzharudin?
 
His other name was sponge bob because he soaked all the pressure like an Inzi.
 
Top 10 Asian batsmen of all-time:-

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
Sangakkara
Miandad
Dravid
Sehwag
Inzamam
Khan
VVS Laxman
 
Equal to David Gower or Martin Crowe?What about Sehwag?

Didn't follow careers of Gower or Crowd so won't be able to compare them with Inzi.

Sehwag, on the other hand can be compared to Inzi. Both are very identical, however, I will give slight advantage to Sehwag due to the fact he was an opening batsman. If someone choses to rank Inzi above Sehwag, I wouldn't argue with them. At the end of the day, it comes down to personal bias and liking.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] where do you rank Inzamam?In the top tier? [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
 
Excellent player. Would have gone down as ATG if not for his poor fitness.

this. he is such a good player. top 5 level. his fitness let's him down. I guess you could say the same for laxman and rohit too in a way but inzamam was far more talented than those 2. I would even say more talented than dravid.
 
I put Zaheer Younis and Javed above him for Pak
 
His numbers are so poor outside of Asia in ODI's and only has 1 century to his name combined in Aus/NZ/Eng/SA.

Elite batsmen Test wise but probably extremely overrated in ODI's.
 
Are not Gavaskar and Dravid in the Lara or Tendulkar club?

Gavaskar and Dravid were not that good in OD. Tendulkar was great in both formats. It will be very difficult to match Tendulkar.

Lara though outstanding talent , was just a bit below Tendulkar , because Tendulkar was more composed.
 
A great player, for sure, but the enduring indelible legacy of Inzy to me was how he habitually failed in ICC World Cup matches. A player of his caliber should have been able to steady the ship and guide his team to a respectable total, but Inzy was a persistent failure. So Pakistan performed horribly in all the world cups he played sans ‘92.

To his credit, Inzy during his captaincy largely put to an end to the 1990s culture of Pakistani cricket players notoriety of late night clubbing and immoral behavior and his reign saw a more conservative tilt. However, soon after he retired, the match fixings resumed and Pakistan cricket went downhill from there.
 
In the 90s and 00s, the best batters to come out were Steve Waugh, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis and Rahul Dravid. Inzamam was behind these names.

So, basically in last 50-60 years, Inzy might struggle to feature in top 20 batsman.
 
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