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Where will Asia Cup 2023 be played?

This is not happening.

Another Asia cup in Asia is coming next year.

And India will also play it's games in UAE during the champions Trophy 2025.
 
We just played against Pakistan in Asia Cup in UAE. What will be the excuse this time to not play in Pakistan because security isn't an issue anymore. Developed countries like England and Australia are going to Pakistan without any problem. :inti
 
Kriketer said:
So you don't want to play in Pakistan and want tournaments to be moved to places per your likings, but Pakistan can't demand the same when it comes to India? What hypocrites. Now go gaga over how bcci got the money (not a surprise for a 1.5 billion of the world population cramped in one country). You solely make money because of "other countries" or else your trundlers wouldn't get much attention in your domestic tournaments.

Other teams are touring so don't think it will fly by this time. All your drama of 'jawaan ka khuun' and 'Pakistan dushman' nationalism of India goes out of the window when you play odd games against Pakistan. MCG will be filled with such passionate Indians who ll be weeping while national anthem is getting played at a large stadium but this drama and fake emotions sway like a burger patty on a pan from series to games. Got guts then demand your team to stop playing Pakistan everywhere. Is this the cheap worth of your jawaans blood at the border that you give in for mere little random cricket games against Pakistan?
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You are asking too many sensible and logical questions in one post. I have asked similar questions in the past but joshila keeps ignoring them because he can't justify the hypocrisy of selectively playing against Pakistan. Either play all matches or boycott all of them. It is as simple as that. :inti
 
Kriketer said:
So you don't want to play in Pakistan and want tournaments to be moved to places per your likings, but Pakistan can't demand the same when it comes to India? What hypocrites. Now go gaga over how bcci got the money (not a surprise for a 1.5 billion of the world population cramped in one country). You solely make money because of "other countries" or else your trundlers wouldn't get much attention in your domestic tournaments.

Other teams are touring so don't think it will fly by this time. All your drama of 'jawaan ka khuun' and 'Pakistan dushman' nationalism of India goes out of the window when you play odd games against Pakistan. MCG will be filled with such passionate Indians who ll be weeping while national anthem is getting played at a large stadium but this drama and fake emotions sway like a burger patty on a pan from series to games. Got guts then demand your team to stop playing Pakistan everywhere. Is this the cheap worth of your jawaans blood at the border that you give in for mere little random cricket games against Pakistan?
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Pakistan can demand. Others have to agree. ICC and ACC can go ahead with their tournament without India, if they want.

Pakistan has a population of 220mn, why isn't PCB a rich board? By your logic PCB should be the 2nd richest board. IPL alone gets $1bn plus a year in broadcast rights. Pakistan cant get even 500mn over 5 years.

We get money because the broadcaster gets ADs. And the companies give Ads because Indians pay to buy stuff. India is the world's 5th largest economy and also the fastest growing.

If India organizes a India A B C tri series with all our stars playing, the broadcaster rights will be sold for far more than the 12-13mn PSL gets for a year.

Not everyone is dependent on others.


It doesn't matter who is touring. If government refuses permission, India wont tour. ICC or ACC are free to go ahead with the tournament without India. Its their call.

We do exactly what benefits us. Why should we give pakistan free points in the tournament by not playing the game? It benefits pakistan. Boycott is not to benefit pakistan. Why will we foolishly help pakistan in the tournament by gifting free points?

As S.Jaishankar famously said in one of his interviews in Europe, "We will do, what benefits us".
 
Hope it goes ahead in Pakistan. I am sure our players will get a wonderful reception in Lahore and Karachi like the 2004 tour. Kohli especially, and they may make start showing love to some rookie like how they did with Balaji in that historic tour. Kohli vs Shaheen, Pant vs Naseem, SKY vs Shadab, Babar vs Bumrah, Rizwan vs Bishnoi etc. in Gaddafi Stadium, atmosphere will be unreal.

Tests in Pakistan are a bore because of nature of pitches but always enjoyed ODIs played over there.
 
Sad that so many Indian greats like Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Jadeja, Shami have never played a test against Pakistan, most of them are already in mid-30s and close to retirement. Hope the successful edition of Asia Cup next year is the start of resumption of bilateral cricket as well. At least Pant, Babar, Bumrah, Shaheen etc, should play tests against each other.
 
Come or don't come it doesn't matter. Most Pak fans or even the PCB don't care in what is a meaningless tournament. We'll be going to India for the big WC next year without any hassle. We are a grown up country not a childish and immature one like India.
 
Don't care for any LOI tourney. If it were a test series, then it would be a different matter.

I can't wait for the day when LOI is limited to WC and local leagues. We can then spend more time playing proper cricket.
 
PakLFC said:
Come or don't come it doesn't matter. Most Pak fans or even the PCB don't care in what is a meaningless tournament. We'll be going to India for the big WC next year without any hassle. We are a grown up country not a childish and immature one like India.
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Fans needs to stop kidding themselves (from both side). A ind/Pak match brings in so much revenue - PCB definitely cares. You may not, but your board definitely does and will want to play India when they hosts the tournament. Little online arguments are cute but when it comes to money, no board is crazy enough to leave it off the table just because.
 
light said:
Fans needs to stop kidding themselves (from both side). A ind/Pak match brings in so much revenue - PCB definitely cares. You may not, but your board definitely does and will want to play India when they hosts the tournament. Little online arguments are cute but when it comes to money, no board is crazy enough to leave it off the table just because.
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Well the PCB would care about making money but they don't keep asking India to play us anymore like in the past. When was the last time the PCB made a comment about playing India? It is the BCCI that have made the statement of possibly participating in next years Asia cup. PCB didn't ask them too.
 
My hypothesis is a handful of Pak women players will be picked up for the inaugural WIPL next March which will hopefully will pave the way for more thawing of relations and set the scene for the men’s team to travel to Pakistan.

Plenty of IFs but good sign overall
 
PakLFC said:
Well the PCB would care about making money but they don't keep asking India to play us anymore like in the past. When was the last time the PCB made a comment about playing India? It is the BCCI that have made the statement of possibly participating in next years Asia cup. PCB didn't ask them too.
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The statement I made goes both ways. We have a whole generation of players who will be ATG for their respective countries and some are close to retirement, never played a test match or a full series between the two sides. How sad is that? All this patriotic nonsense around sports starts getting annoying from both parties ... at the end of the day, they are here for the money. Your board, my board, etc board, all care about the $ regardless of what fans/country leaders think.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Hope it goes ahead in Pakistan. I am sure our players will get a wonderful reception in Lahore and Karachi like the 2004 tour. Kohli especially, and they may make start showing love to some rookie like how they did with Balaji in that historic tour. Kohli vs Shaheen, Pant vs Naseem, SKY vs Shadab, Babar vs Bumrah, Rizwan vs Bishnoi etc. in Gaddafi Stadium, atmosphere will be unreal.

Tests in Pakistan are a bore because of nature of pitches but always enjoyed ODIs played over there.
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Yes, and truth is Pakistani and Indian players are very good friends now on and off the pitch, possibly more so than the 60s or 70s (just assuming here, correct me if I’m wrong)- not to mention the relations of the two nations back then was more turbulent than what it is today. And yet… they still played each back then far more than now.
 
light said:
The statement I made goes both ways. We have a whole generation of players who will be ATG for their respective countries and some are close to retirement, never played a test match or a full series between the two sides. How sad is that? All this patriotic nonsense around sports starts getting annoying from both parties ... at the end of the day, they are here for the money. Your board, my board, etc board, all care about the $ regardless of what fans/country leaders think.
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Thanks for the humane and feel good comment. What is sad is how Kashmiri people are being killed by the Indian terrorist army. Pak is not gonna compromise just for the sake of playing Cricket! Forget Cricket until this problem is sorted as per wish of the Kashmiri people. The Cricket situation is no way near as being sadder than what is happening in IoK. It's a matter of principle.
 
PakLFC said:
Thanks for the humane and feel good comment. What is sad is how Kashmiri people are being killed by the Indian terrorist army. Pak is not gonna compromise just for the sake of playing Cricket! Forget Cricket until this problem is sorted as per wish of the Kashmiri people. The Cricket situation is no way near as being sadder than what is happening in IoK. It's a matter of principle.
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If you ask me, sport is a great way to reunite people from two countries that are enemies on the battlefield. That's just me personally, I know others don't think the same way and look at sports and politics alike. I guess we have to agree to disagree, respectfully.
 
light said:
If you ask me, sport is a great way to reunite people from two countries that are enemies on the battlefield. That's just me personally, I know others don't think the same way and look at sports and politics alike. I guess we have to agree to disagree, respectfully.
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Firstly India was the one who stopped Cricket with Pak hoping we would agree to their bullying over Kashmir. When there threats didn't work and Cricket has returned to Pak they now want to play! Sport will not bring justice to the suffering people of IoK.
 
With the Asia Cup 2023 scheduled to be held in Pakistan, BCCI secretary Jay Shah has dropped a huge update on whether the Indian cricket team will travel across the border to play the tournament next year. India, who last toured Pakistan back in 2006, will have to wait further as Shah stated that the tournament will be held at neutral venue, a decision that was taken during 91st Annual General Meeting in Mumbai on Tuesday.

"Neutral venue for Asia Cup is not unprecedented and we have decided that we will not travel to Pakistan," Jay Shah, the secretary of the BCCI and also the president of the ACC, said. "It's the govt which decides over the permission of our team visiting Pakistan so we won't comment on that but for the 2023 Asia Cup, it is decided that the tournament will be held at a neutral venue."

As per the FTP released earlier, Pakistan are scheduled to hold two big ICC events in the next three years - the Asia Cup (which will be a 50-over format ahead of the 2023 World Cup) next year and the Champions Trophy in 2025. Since cricket returned to Pakistan after a decade-long absence, this is the first time that the country was rewarded with the hosting rights of two major ICC events. But with the BCCI making the announcement of a neutral venue, the developments that are expected to follow or how the PCB and other officials react remains to be seen.

The development comes as a complete 360 degree turn since the possibilities of India travelling to Pakistan looked highly likely as per reports emerging last week. A Cricbuzz report stated that a note was shared with all state associations which mentioned the Asia Cup in Pakistan as one of the tournaments the Indian team was expected to take part in. "It will be subject to the clearance of the Government of India as always," a BCCI official was quoted as saying. As it turned out, it was not the case.

India vs Pakistan has always been a highly-awaited cricketing contest. But contrary to the 1980s, 1990s and the early 2000s, where there were no shortages of an IND-PAK tie, bilateral series between the two have been entirely scrapped due to political tensions between the two nations. Since the last bilateral series between the two countries back in 2012-13, India and Pakistan have done battle only 10 times in 10 years, all of which were contested during ICC events.

In August, ahead of the Asia Cup, when Rohit Sharma was asked about the possibilities of a bilateral series between the two nations, the India captain responded by saying: "If I had the option to answer this question, I would have given it. Respectable boards make these decisions. This is not in our hands but if boards decide to play, then we will play."

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...kistan-for-asia-cup-2023-101666081419750.html
 
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cricketjoshila said:
With the Asia Cup 2023 scheduled to be held in Pakistan, BCCI secretary Jay Shah has dropped a huge update on whether the Indian cricket team will travel across the border to play the tournament next year. India, who last toured Pakistan back in 2006, will have to wait further as Shah stated that the tournament will be held at neutral venue, a decision that was taken during 91st Annual General Meeting in Mumbai on Tuesday.

"Neutral venue for Asia Cup is not unprecedented and we have decided that we will not travel to Pakistan," Jay Shah, the secretary of the BCCI and also the president of the ACC, said. "It's the govt which decides over the permission of our team visiting Pakistan so we won't comment on that but for the 2023 Asia Cup, it is decided that the tournament will be held at a neutral venue."

As per the FTP released earlier, Pakistan are scheduled to hold two big ICC events in the next three years - the Asia Cup (which will be a 50-over format ahead of the 2023 World Cup) next year and the Champions Trophy in 2025. Since cricket returned to Pakistan after a decade-long absence, this is the first time that the country was rewarded with the hosting rights of two major ICC events. But with the BCCI making the announcement of a neutral venue, the developments that are expected to follow or how the PCB and other officials react remains to be seen.

The development comes as a complete 360 degree turn since the possibilities of India travelling to Pakistan looked highly likely as per reports emerging last week. A Cricbuzz report stated that a note was shared with all state associations which mentioned the Asia Cup in Pakistan as one of the tournaments the Indian team was expected to take part in. "It will be subject to the clearance of the Government of India as always," a BCCI official was quoted as saying. As it turned out, it was not the case.

India vs Pakistan has always been a highly-awaited cricketing contest. But contrary to the 1980s, 1990s and the early 2000s, where there were no shortages of an IND-PAK tie, bilateral series between the two have been entirely scrapped due to political tensions between the two nations. Since the last bilateral series between the two countries back in 2012-13, India and Pakistan have done battle only 10 times in 10 years, all of which were contested during ICC events.

In August, ahead of the Asia Cup, when Rohit Sharma was asked about the possibilities of a bilateral series between the two nations, the India captain responded by saying: "If I had the option to answer this question, I would have given it. Respectable boards make these decisions. This is not in our hands but if boards decide to play, then we will play."

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...kistan-for-asia-cup-2023-101666081419750.html
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Was expecting this, now it raises two questions
1- will Pakistan tour to India in 2023?
2- will India tour to Pakistan in 2025?
 
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You can't do much about it. The politics involved is too high up in the ranks that there's no point criticizing the players or the BCCI or PCB of anyone else.

Modi and BJP are controlling the shots in India currently and we'll have to just make sure we don't get too emotional here and keep our ties with other boards on a positive note.

Asia Cup can happen in UAE it's not a big deal.
 
Energy said:
You can't do much about it. The politics involved is too high up in the ranks that there's no point criticizing the players or the BCCI or PCB of anyone else.

Modi and BJP are controlling the shots in India currently and we'll have to just make sure we don't get too emotional here and keep our ties with other boards on a positive note.

Asia Cup can happen in UAE it's not a big deal.
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Defeatist mindset just like asking Fakhar to bat at 4.
 
cricketjoshila said:
How many tournaments will pakistan pull out of?

India is slated to host the next WC and 3 ICC tournaments after that
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Well

Looks like ICC won’t get its big payday on Sunday if it’s a washout

And then it will miss out on another in 2023

I guess BCCI will reimburse ICC once Pakistan are frozen out
 
They cannot tour until this government is in power. I’m not sure how Pakistan fans get duped into thinking it might happen.

BCCI would want to play, these matches make good money for them. The government will never allow an Indian team to tour Pakistan though, so their hands at forcibly tied.
 
Hextro said:
Did Jay's imaginary friend tell him this or was it a vision he had at night?

Unparalleled delusion.
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The only ‘unparalleled delusion’ is the idea that Pakistan will host the Asia Cup and India will come to Pakistan. :)))

India will not come to Pakistan which means Pakistan will be forced to host in UAE or elsewhere.
 
Usman Chadda said:
They cannot tour until this government is in power. I’m not sure how Pakistan fans get duped into thinking it might happen.

BCCI would want to play, these matches make good money for them. The government will never allow an Indian team to tour Pakistan though, so their hands at forcibly tied.
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If they can allow pakistan players to play in India then why not allow their team to play in pakistan? that's double standards
 
Mamoon said:
The only ‘unparalleled delusion’ is the idea that Pakistan will host the Asia Cup and India will come to Pakistan. :)))

India will not come to Pakistan which means Pakistan will be forced to host in UAE or elsewhere.
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Classic Mamoon comment. Void of any meaning.
 
Then is it fair to say that by the same token, 2023 WC should also be shifted out of India to a neutral venue.
 
Rana said:
Defeatist mindset just like asking Fakhar to bat at 4.
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No. It's a realistic post speaking from what's happening in ground reality. Inside Pakistan.

Deluded unicorns won't understand it.
 
This is pathetic from India. Whoever has the money has the power. And they are just abusing it.
 
reversehook said:
our board doesnt have the kahunas to do that... but there is a slight hope of it with RR at the helm...
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There needs to be some thought put so its not a gung-ho decision.

Remember India's intention is to isolate us.

If we isolate ourselves to prove a point then we will have just fulfilled their objective.
 
India is such a ghattiya nation according to the posters here that they value the blood of their army soldiers more than anything....apart from 2 points in an ICC tournament against Pakistan :))
 
As I said before, Indian team will not travel to Pakistan and that is the bottimline. This is the directive from Govt of India and nothing BCCI can do. The remaining logistics (i.e where to play the Asia cup etc.) need to be amicably sorted between the boards.

It is hilarious some posters are giving threats that Pakistan will quit world cup too. Whose loss that will be? World cup will the easily go ahead without Pakistan albeit some financial loss BCCI/ICC will face. One thing is guaranteed, India wont travel to Pakistan, either for Asia cup next year or for CT in 2025. PCB is free to host these two tournaments without India.
 
On the expected lines.

Now get ready for another UAE/Dubai tournament where chasing team wins 9 out of 10 games. Yawn..
 
DeadlyVenom said:
India is such a ghattiya nation according to the posters here that they value the blood of their army soldiers more than anything....apart from 2 points in an ICC tournament against Pakistan :))
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You guys keep repeating this day in day out like a broken record. Where does this lame "bLoOd oF tHeiR aRmY sOlDiEeS" argument even come from? Seriously..

Did India stop playing Pakistan because it's soldiers were killed at the border? Or was it because Pakistani citizens trained by Pakistani militant organizations , attacked and killed hundreds of unarmed Indian civilians?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
India is such a ghattiya nation according to the posters here that they value the blood of their army soldiers more than anything....apart from 2 points in an ICC tournament against Pakistan :))
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Ok then why are they playing us in ICC tournaments? This is such a flawed statement. Both sides soldiers are shedding blood for their countries. The sports is the only thing that improves the relationship. You Indian lots has to include politics in every other thing.
 
Hextro said:
Did Jay's imaginary friend tell him this or was it a vision he had at night?

Unparalleled delusion.
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Why will someone tell him or he would dream when he is the Asian Cricket Council President? If he is saying it then ACC has already made a decision.
 
And i can only laugh at the clueless ones who still haven't quite got their heads around (or at least pretending to not) why India plays Pakistan in tournaments and not in bilaterals. :91:

I think it's pretty clear to anyone with a couple of functioning brain cells that India's aim is not to let Pak earn billions of ₹ in broadcasting revenue from Indian tours, thereby weakening their finances and hurting their economy on the whole. Based on this, it would make absolutely no sense in "boycotting" Pakistan at major tournaments.

Simple, plain logic.
 
ex-q-zit said:
Why will someone tell him or he would dream when he is the Asian Cricket Council President? If he is saying it then ACC has already made a decision.
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But Pakistan has the hosting rights. It's not like FIFA's President can just wake up one morning and decide that Qatar won't be hosting the world cup.

Just like I've said before, we'll have to wait and see.
 
I don't think there is a single Indian cricketer who would not like to play in Pakistan in front of their crowd.
It will be a different experience for them as anywhere else they get huge support.
Hoping against hope but really wish it goes ahead in Pakistan.
 
Rana said:
Well

Looks like ICC won’t get its big payday on Sunday if it’s a washout

And then it will miss out on another in 2023

I guess BCCI will reimburse ICC once Pakistan are frozen out
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ICC will get its pay day as long as India is playing.
 
Usman Chadda said:
They cannot tour until this government is in power. I’m not sure how Pakistan fans get duped into thinking it might happen.

BCCI would want to play, these matches make good money for them. The government will never allow an Indian team to tour Pakistan though, so their hands at forcibly tied.
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Bcci doesn't need money from India pak matches to survive. IPL alone makes more money than ICC.
 
Jay shah has no authority to say this. This was not an asia board meeting this was a bcci meeting.

If pakistan hosts the tournament at neutral venue, will acc bare the cost than? Why should pcb bare the cost. This isnt jay shahs decision.

You dont wana come, dont come.

If rameez raja make sures that asia cup takes place in pakistan now no matter what i will become his biggest supporter here
 
mrtaim3 said:
Ok then why are they playing us in ICC tournaments? This is such a flawed statement. Both sides soldiers are shedding blood for their countries. The sports is the only thing that improves the relationship. You Indian lots has to include politics in every other thing.
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Why is Russia out of Fifa and uefa tournaments?
 
Major said:
Jay shah has no authority to say this. This was not an asia board meeting this was a bcci meeting.

If pakistan hosts the tournament at neutral venue, will acc bare the cost than? Why should pcb bare the cost. This isnt jay shahs decision.

You dont wana come, dont come.

If rameez raja make sures that asia cup takes place in pakistan now no matter what i will become his biggest supporter here
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Jay Shah is the ACC President so he knows what he is saying.

Will other boards be ready to take the losses if Indian team doesn't play the tournament?

Let's be honest here, other teams cannot attract much revenue.
 
Pakistan didn't qualify for the 2023 hockey WC, else according to certain posters they would have had to boycott that also.
 
The PML N govt used to Bash the pti saying they ruined ties with India to the point of no return. They used to boast of the fact that they had excellent relationships with India and could bring the two countries together. Litmus test for them.
 
Hextro said:
:facepalm

The tournament will take place in the UAE or Nepal?
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How would [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] know where the Asia Cup is going to take place? It is not decided.
But I will tell you where it's not going to take place - Pakistan.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
India is such a ghattiya nation according to the posters here that they value the blood of their army soldiers more than anything....apart from 2 points in an ICC tournament against Pakistan :))
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Are posters running BCCI or the GOVT?
Stop posting whatever comes to your mind as facts.
 
mrtaim3 said:
Ok then why are they playing us in ICC tournaments? This is such a flawed statement. Both sides soldiers are shedding blood for their countries. The sports is the only thing that improves the relationship. You Indian lots has to include politics in every other thing.
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They are playing us in ICC tournaments because they are beigherat and beisharam.
 
Hextro said:
But Pakistan has the hosting rights. It's not like FIFA's President can just wake up one morning and decide that Qatar won't be hosting the world cup.

Just like I've said before, we'll have to wait and see.
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Nah.
Jay Shah has spoken.
It will happen. I'm not saying I support it or I don't support it. But there will be no ASIA CUP without INDIA and INDIA are not traveling to PAK.
 
Can India be the neutral venue? Maybe hold it in the biggest stadium in the world. Off course gate money and other revenue can go straight to PCB’s pocket as they were originally scheduled to host the tournament.
 
IccKnockout said:
Are posters running BCCI or the GOVT?
Stop posting whatever comes to your mind as facts.
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I can only rely on the posters opinions from India.

They say that India wants to isolate Pakistan because the lives of their soldiers mean a lot to them.

I need to take their word for it, since I don't know the reality of why India behaves so irrationally.
 
This was an expected decision. PCB can always host Asia Cup without India.

Not sure about Champions Trophy though. BCCI might get into a tussle with ICC over that if India refuses to go to Pakistan for the Champons Trophy.

International cricket is already on the wane. That might just be the final bail in the coffin for it and it will he T20 leagues all the way
 
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