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Where will Asia Cup 2023 be played?

Angrez Pakistani said:
Can India be the neutral venue? Maybe hold it in the biggest stadium in the world. Off course gate money and other revenue can go straight to PCB’s pocket as they were originally scheduled to host the tournament.
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Well, if PCB is smart they can play this card.

But they most likely do what posters here are suggesting.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I can only rely on the posters opinions from India.

They say that India wants to isolate Pakistan because the lives of their soldiers mean a lot to them.

I need to take their word for it, since I don't know the reality of why India behaves so irrationally.
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read [MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] 's post above. You will know why. It is pretty simple really.
 
I hope UAE is not going to be the venue. Absolutely horrible.
Maybe host it in Bangladesh with the hosting rights officially with Pakistan, of course.
 
On a different note - Pakistan fans need to stop living in their dream world and come back to real world

Forget Asia Cup. Even the Champions Trophy in 2025 is not going to be hosted in Pakistan. Ramiz Raja should stop fooling around and accept the realities !

Else next year ICC will announce that Champions Trophy is going to be shifted to another country and again Pakistan fans will start their wrist slitting
 
I will give my opinion,

If other boards and ACC and ICC are okay, pakistan should be allowed to host the Asia cup and ICC CT without the Indian team.

Its PCB's job to convince the other boards.
 
NishanKonar said:
On a different note - Pakistan fans need to stop living in their dream world and come back to real world

Forget Asia Cup. Even the Champions Trophy in 2025 is not going to be hosted in Pakistan. Ramiz Raja should stop fooling around and accept the realities !

Else next year ICC will announce that Champions Trophy is going to be shifted to another country and again Pakistan fans will start their wrist slitting
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If other boards and ACC and ICC are okay, pakistan should be allowed to host the Asia cup and ICC CT without the Indian team.

Its PCB's job to convince the other boards.
 
Mesozoic said:
You guys keep repeating this day in day out like a broken record. Where does this lame "bLoOd oF tHeiR aRmY sOlDiEeS" argument even come from? Seriously..

Did India stop playing Pakistan because it's soldiers were killed at the border? Or was it because Pakistani citizens trained by Pakistani militant organizations , attacked and killed hundreds of unarmed Indian civilians?
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This excuse ( death of soldiers) has been given by numerous posters on this site.

These views have been echoed by your cricketers like Harbajan, Chahal etc too on the back of Pulwama incident where Indian occupied citizens killed Indian occupying army.

So the "lame argument" is supported and propagated by your side, not ours.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
Can India be the neutral venue? Maybe hold it in the biggest stadium in the world. Off course gate money and other revenue can go straight to PCB’s pocket as they were originally scheduled to host the tournament.
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Now this is a good suggestion. Since next world cup will be in India and Asia Cups are meant to be dress rehersal for ICC events, why not have the Asia cup in India itself? All Asian sides can get used to the conditions, dews, grounds, crowds etc before the mega event.
 
cricketjoshila said:
If other boards and ACC and ICC are okay, pakistan should be allowed to host the Asia cup and ICC CT without the Indian team.

Its PCB's job to convince the other boards.
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ICC and other Boards will have a good laugh at this.:haider
There will be no ICC tournament without INDIA.
 
IccKnockout said:
How would [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] know where the Asia Cup is going to take place? It is not decided.
But I will tell you where it's not going to take place - Pakistan.
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Ok? You've added zero value to the discussion with this comment. We'll have to wait for the PCB's response.
 
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Instead of relocating the entire tournament, can't they simply host the Pak-Ind matches in UAE ?
 
Hextro said:
Ok? You've added zero value to the discussion with this comment. We'll have to wait for the PCB's response.
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What value? It's pretty straightforward. Asia Cup will not be happening in PAKISTAN.(obviously unfortunate for PCB and its fans, but it is what it is)

DO you want me to quote Shakespeare and write about the meaning of this life and universe?
 
bala977 said:
My hypothesis is a handful of Pak women players will be picked up for the inaugural WIPL next March which will hopefully will pave the way for more thawing of relations and set the scene for the men’s team to travel to Pakistan.

Plenty of IFs but good sign overall
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They have their own league in March.
 
PCB worked their backsides off for a whole decade to bring international cricket back to Pakistan and to convince the ICC to let it host the Asia Cup and the ICC champions trophy only for BCCI to take it away from them just like that.
 
Markhor said:
Instead of relocating the entire tournament, can't they simply host the Pak-Ind matches in UAE ?
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Expenses will double.
What happens in the case of semi-finals and finals? They will have to plan for multiple venues in both countries depending on if India qualifies and at what position.
 
Pakistan is right to do everything to host the tournament in Pakistan - even knowing it will not happen. It’s called resistance.

Power shifts. It was with England Australia. Now with England Australia and India. Tomorrow with someone else.

But important to make your stance clear at every node in history. And stand by what’s right.

Mixing Sports and politics is right until the shoe is on the other foot.

Personally, I find Asia Cup a meaningless tournament. Should be scrapped. But after this edition.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Jay Shah is the ACC President so he knows what he is saying.

Will other boards be ready to take the losses if Indian team doesn't play the tournament?

Let's be honest here, other teams cannot attract much revenue.
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First read the article than respond.

Jay shah didnt have any meeting with acc. He had a meeting with bcci officials, thus, he has no authority to make such statement.

Remember one thing, the only way asia cuo generates revenue is when a pakistan vs india is forced upon. If there is no pakistan to play with, india cant milk out a rivalry.

Ball is in pcbs court, i have been critical of rameez raja, but i believe he is the right man at the job in current scenario.

If he decides to remove pakistan from ACC or make sures no matter what the tournament is hosted in Pakistan i will support him.

If india has issues, they dont need to come. Issue is india and we are not here to cater to their stupid needs
 
Markhor said:
Instead of relocating the entire tournament, can't they simply host the Pak-Ind matches in UAE ?
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Why should pakistan bare the expense? Why shouldnt pakistan make money off of it?

What bcci is doing is ridiculous, and ICC needs to intervene here, its getting too ridiculous
 
As per a media report:

PCB source: "PCB to wait for ACC's official confirmation on India decision"
 
IccKnockout said:
What value? It's pretty straightforward. Asia Cup will not be happening in PAKISTAN.(obviously unfortunate for PCB and its fans, but it is what it is)

DO you want me to quote Shakespeare and write about the meaning of this life and universe?
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It's shocking to me how plain delusional fans from a certain country are. The board that has the hosting rights for the Asia Cup hasn't even responded to that Jay guy's statement yet, and these fans are running around telling people that whatever Jay says is gospel.

Calm down and wait for the hosts to make a statement.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
This excuse ( death of soldiers) has been given by numerous posters on this site.

These views have been echoed by your cricketers like Harbajan, Chahal etc too on the back of Pulwama incident where Indian occupied citizens killed Indian occupying army.

So the "lame argument" is supported and propagated by your side, not ours.
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Completely missed my point. Not surprised though.

Anyways...It doesn't matter what chahal or some random lalloo on social media says. The fact is that India stopped playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan after the Mumbai attacks and not because soldiers died on the border. Thousands of men have been dying along both sides of the LOC since 1948, wars were fought, countries were cut in half and surrenders were signed but cricket never stopped like it did for the last one and a half decade.
 
MenInG said:
As per a media report:

PCB source: "PCB to wait for ACC's official confirmation on India decision"
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And then what? Agree to it?

Is our chairman going to show he is better than all those before him like he seems to want to portray himself as?
 
Hextro said:
It's shocking to me how plain delusional fans from a certain country are. The board that has the hosting rights for the Asia Cup hasn't even responded to that Jay guy's statement yet, and these fans are running around telling people that whatever Jay says is gospel.

Calm down and wait for the hosts to make a statement.
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It's shocking how fans from a certain country lack common sense. PCB won't host ASIA CUP without INDIA.
It will run losses hosting the Asia Cup with all the Presidential level security and without an IND PAK match they will not recover it.
It aint gonna happen, buddy. That's not a prediction. That's a spoiler.

No need to bring country vs country debate into it. I didnt say I support it. I am telling you what's gonna happen.

We have seen this movie a lot of times.:shhh
 
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Hextro said:
It's shocking to me how plain delusional fans from a certain country are. The board that has the hosting rights for the Asia Cup hasn't even responded to that Jay guy's statement yet, and these fans are running around telling people that whatever Jay says is gospel.

Calm down and wait for the hosts to make a statement.
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Jay's words are gospel for BCCI.
In turn, BCCI's words are gospel for ACC / ICC.
It's the truth.
He is not some "guy". He is the guy.
 
Expected from small hearted India.

In typical fashion, they have shifted complete tournament out of Pakistan instead of just opting out. We have three options now.

1. Do not play at neutral venue and if it means an Asia cup without us then so be it.

2. Play in UAE, but only after announcing that Pakistan will not be visiting India when Asia Cup takes place there unless India plays in Pakistan.

3. Just play at neutral venue.

Opting for 3 will be total beghairti. I am fine with any of first two options.

Pakistan, despite our bigger hearts, should never forget India's antics. Scores must be settled with interest once shoe is on the other foot.
 
PCB has two options ahead of them now..

1. Go ahead with the tournament in Pakistan with all other sides except India and send a message across the world that they will not compromise on tournaments moving out of Pakistan for anyone or anything.

Or

2. Host the tournament in UAE and have India on board along with all the financial benefits that come with them.


Let's see what they choose. :)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When all international teams and international cricketers come to Pakistan for <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialPSL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialPSL</a>, what is <a href="https://twitter.com/BCCI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BCCI</a>'s problem. If BCCI is willing to go to a neutral venue, then <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a> should also be willing to go to a neutral venue for the WC in India next year.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saeed Anwar (@ImSaeedAnwar) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImSaeedAnwar/status/1582299620818161665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Hitman said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When all international teams and international cricketers come to Pakistan for <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialPSL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialPSL</a>, what is <a href="https://twitter.com/BCCI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BCCI</a>'s problem. If BCCI is willing to go to a neutral venue, then <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a> should also be willing to go to a neutral venue for the WC in India next year.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saeed Anwar (@ImSaeedAnwar) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImSaeedAnwar/status/1582299620818161665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Problem is, India won't accept it and ICC can't do anything about it.
WC 2023 will happen in INDIA.
PAK are free to opt out.
 
Rana said:
Try not to lash out at everyone who is right
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No need to lash out, we already know beforehand that India won't play in Pakistan because there is a hardcore hindutva party in power in that country. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see this was always going to be the outcome. The ruling party in India considers Pakistan an unimplacable enemy.
 
Ind only tour pak when martial law is on.. don’t believe me look at the history!
 
IccKnockout said:
It's pretty amazing how these ex-cricketers tweet such illogical stuff.
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One can demand anything he/she desires. Saeed Anwar can even demand the entire 2023 World Cup to be shifted away from India. There is a difference between fantasy and reality.
 
So ACC sole Head decides this without ACC members involvement and that too after a BCCI meeting, one can only lol at that.

This is what you call arrogance and one needs to stand up to it. Not just arroangace but outright unprofessionalism shown as well as you are only head of ACC, you don't own it (yes Indian like to believe that having more money=owning) but it is made up of mere few other members who have a say as well.

Ramiz needs to stand up to this stupidity and must make sure it is held in Pakistan. If India doesn't want to come to Pakistan, not a problem, neither Pakistan has to go to India for World Cup.

Its funny how Indian Board allows India to play World cup, CT and Asia cup games against Pakistan because those games too channel money in Pakistan and for Pakistani board. Funny how they pick and choose games over the blood of their jawaan at the border. They don't want to play series against Pakistan in say England, but they will play world cup and CT in England :)) Indian government has no guts to stand by their delusions. Burger patty flipping on a frying pan is what their decision making is with this over the blood of their jawaans (typical nationalist card they themselves play over this) and one can only laugh at such hypocrisy.
 
IccKnockout said:
It's shocking how fans from a certain country lack common sense. PCB won't host ASIA CUP without INDIA.
It will run losses hosting the Asia Cup with all the Presidential level security and without an IND PAK match they will not recover it.
It aint gonna happen, buddy.
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Dumb reasoning. The PCB has already hosted many teams without India's involvement. What stops them from hosting a few more? If Jay doesn't want to play, so be it.
 
Mesozoic said:
Completely missed my point. Not surprised though.

Anyways...It doesn't matter what chahal or some random lalloo on social media says. The fact is that India stopped playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan after the Mumbai attacks and not because soldiers died on the border. Thousands of men have been dying along both sides of the LOC since 1948, wars were fought, countries were cut in half and surrenders were signed but cricket never stopped like it did for the last one and a half decade.
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You had no point.

Just because you say something doesn't make it fact - I mean you are also a random lalloo on social media.

What makes your opinion more credible than your ex cricketers, other Indian posters or officials?
 
Hextro said:
Dumb reasoning. The PCB has already hosted many teams without India's involvement. What stops them from hosting a few more? If Jay doesn't want to play, so be it.
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Ain't gonna happen.
Asia cup will either be scrapped or played in a neutral country,
 
Hextro said:
Dumb reasoning. The PCB has already hosted many teams without India's involvement. What stops them from hosting a few more? If Jay doesn't want to play, so be it.
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Yea. Hosting a single team is similar to hosting a tournament with multiple teams, arranging security for multiple teams at multiple times.
 
Kriketer said:
So ACC sole Head decides this without ACC members involvement and that too after a BCCI meeting, one can only lol at that.

This is what you call arrogance and one needs to stand up to it. Not just arroangace but outright unprofessionalism shown as well as you are only head of ACC, you don't own it (yes Indian like to believe that having more money=owning) but it is made up of mere few other members who have a say as well.

Ramiz needs to stand up to this stupidity and must make sure it is held in Pakistan. If India doesn't want to come to Pakistan, not a problem, neither Pakistan has to go to India for World Cup.

Its funny how Indian Board allows India to play World cup, CT and Asia cup games against Pakistan because those games too channel money in Pakistan and for Pakistani board. Funny how they pick and choose games over the blood of their jawaan at the border. They don't want to play series against Pakistan in say England, but they will play world cup and CT in England :)) Indian government has no guts to stand by their delusions. Burger patty flipping on a frying pan is what their decision making is with this over the blood of their jawaans (typical nationalist card they themselves play over this) and one can only laugh at such hypocrisy.
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Agree with this post completely.

Indeed they pick and choose ganes for their jawaans :)))
 
It's probably best to play without India. Take the hit on revenues but no point in throwing away self respect. The PCB has worked for over a decade to bring back cricket to Pakistan and instead we're being told to bend the knee because the Indian government is ludicrous.
 
Rana said:
Yes. PSL is a one team league :))
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Yes, so PCB is willing to spend on ASIA CUP like they spend on PSL and incur huge losses that they will be facing without the INDIA encounter :smith

As I said. Ain't gonna happen.
All this bravado by Social Media warriors like they own PCB.

There will be no ASIA CUP in Pakistan
 
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IccKnockout said:
Yes, so PCB is willing to spend on ASIA CUP like they spend on PSL and incur huge losses that they will be facing without the INDIA encounter :smith

As I said. Ain't gonna happen.
All this bravado by Social Media warriors like they own PCB.

There will be no ASIA CUP in Pakistan
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Do you have anything to back this claim? Seems like you're pulling something out of thin air than anything backed with data.
 
Why not have all the games in Pakistan as the baseline but India v Pakistan and India’s matches in England/Australia

It may be a logistical nightmare but would be more refreshing then the usual schedule in the UAE.

Have Pak v India at MCG and the rest of India’s games in England.

The KO games can be in Pakistan but with grounds in England/Australia on stand by should India progress further in the tournament.

It’s far from ideal, but India wont be playing in Pakistan anytime soon and they need to be practical / maximise their returns this way to.
 
IccKnockout said:
Yea. Hosting a single team is similar to hosting a tournament with multiple teams, arranging security for multiple teams at multiple times.
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Wah! What a genius take from you.

Hosting the Asia Cup means we have to host more than one team.
Thank you for pointing that out, I'm sure no one at the PCB thought of that possibility. There's no way we can host more than one team at a time.

It's not like the PSL or the PJL exists... Hosting more than one team is a new concept for Pakistan.

Thank you for enlightening us with your wisdom.
 
It would be a travesty if Pakistan miss the 2023 WC.

But ignoring the sentiment the Pak gov would need to decide if it is safe for them to play there anyway.
 
Hextro said:
Wah! What a genius take from you.

Hosting the Asia Cup means we have to host more than one team.
Thank you for pointing that out, I'm sure no one at the PCB thought of that possibility. There's no way we can host more than one team at a time.

It's not like the PSL or the PJL exists... Hosting more than one team is a new concept for Pakistan.

Thank you for enlightening us with your wisdom.
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Thanks for completely missing the point and posting a clueless reply as usual.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Jay Shah had direct line to the government. He is saying what he is told. How difficult is it to understand?
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So Indian government told him to move the tournament out as well I assume and not just that India won't visit Pakistan? Shouldn't it then be discussed with ACC members first, how you would expect any proper organization to operate or is it a bjp chai wala outlet as well where jahalat is rightfully expected and understood since chai walas at their helm?
How difficult it is to understand?
 
IccKnockout said:
Yes, so PCB is willing to spend on ASIA CUP like they spend on PSL and incur huge losses that they will be facing without the INDIA encounter :smith

As I said. Ain't gonna happen.
All this bravado by Social Media warriors like they own PCB.

There will be no ASIA CUP in Pakistan
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Chawlain na maar mera bhai

Wait for it. It’s all a bit unclear at the moment.
 
Kriketer said:
So Indian government told him to move the tournament out as well I assume and not just that India won't visit Pakistan? Shouldn't it then be discussed with ACC members first, how you would expect any proper organization to operate or is it a bjp chai wala outlet as well where jahalat is rightfully expected and understood since chai walas at their helm?
How difficult it is to understand?
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just one statement from BCCi and see the state of affairs :))
Chai wallahs are owning and moving tournament out of other country's hands.
:))
 
IccKnockout said:
Once it happens (PAK hosting Asia Cup in Pak without INDIA) I will definitely show you the data as well.

PS : Ain't gonna happen
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Teams are visiting just fine in Pakistan. Not sure why are you so eager to play Asia Cup, just say "we ain't gonna visit Pakistan, so go ahead and play without us"... We sure know that "ain't" gonna happen :)
 
BTW
This was expected long before.
I can also tell you India is not gonna travel for CT as well.
(once again, I am not saying I am happy with it or not))
But people should keep their expectations to minimum than show a surprised PIKACHU face after it happens.
 
IccKnockout said:
just one statement from BCCi and see the state of affairs :))
Chai wallahs are owning and moving tournament out of other country's hands.
:))
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Chaiwalas tried their best but teams are openly visiting Pakistan.

"We will isolate Pakistan" only remained a wishful thinking of chai walas ;)
 
Kriketer said:
Chaiwalas tried their best but teams are openly visiting Pakistan.

"We will isolate Pakistan" only remained a wishful thinking of chai walas ;)
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What other countries do is not BCCI's concern.
BCCI will not tour PAK.
BCCI will not allow ASIA CUP to happen in PAK.

These are the only facts relevant to this thread.
 
Kriketer said:
Chaiwalas tried their best but teams are openly visiting Pakistan.

"We will isolate Pakistan" only remained a wishful thinking of chai walas ;)
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Your friends and ex players are talking about not coming to INDIA for the 2023 WC.
WC will still carry on.
Guess who will be isolated.
lol
 
Best option for pcb is to give hosting right to sl or bd( that will take care of team not coming to pakistan )and than demand increase in revenue generated from tournament .It will be best solution for all the parties .Otherwise if pcb take tough stance it may be postponed for another year or 2
 
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Having said that, I feel for the normal fans in Pak. A big ticket tournament which could have helped them a lot.
But it is what it it is.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
You had no point.

Just because you say something doesn't make it fact - I mean you are also a random lalloo on social media.

What makes your opinion more credible than your ex cricketers, other Indian posters or officials?
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Oh dear!!!

Okay go on and educate me, DeadlyVenom.

Why did India stop playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan in 2008?


*All ears*
 
Posters need to understand that this isn't just about the Asia Cup. If Pakistan backs down and arranges a neutral venue for India, it sets a precedent that any team can back out of playing in Pakistan for nonsensical reason.

What will happen to the 2025 CT? Will Pakistan have to arrange matches in a neutral country because a government with ego issues doesn't want to play in Pakistan? If said country were to advance to the finals, Karachi and Lahore cannot host the finals? In that case, what's the point in hosting a tournament?
 
IccKnockout said:
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Your friends and ex players are talking about not coming to INDIA for the 2023 WC.
WC will still carry on.
Guess who will be isolated.
lol
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By posting "lols" and "ain't" doesn't mean you are making your point, or how you claim you are the "only one posting sensibly here" LOL

Teams are visiting Pakistan and many more series are planned in the near future so isolation strategy has failed miserable it seems :). I mean you got a jam packed MCG coming up with eager Indians making up the most of 90,000 tickets wanting to watch the game against their beloved Pakistan, so much for the isolation and jawaan ka khoon pehlai :))
 
Its 2022 and Indian Cricket is still dictating Pakistan cricket what to do, listen to BCCI or face the concequences:ravi
 
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