Where will Asia Cup 2023 be played?

[asfandyar]

Pakistanis need to learn nationalism from India. If their government or any national organization says the Earth is flat, Indians unite in proving them right. On the other hand, Pakistanis start ridiculing their government when it takes such a position, and people who resort to illicit profiteering in every walk of life suddenly become the ambassadors of humanity and truth.

I hope Ramiz stands by his words and Pakistan does not participate in the world cup in India. I've been yelling the same on PCB's Facebook page the last few times we've gone there, but my fellows from Pakistan leave laugh reactions on my post to project an aura of maturity.

 

[Mesozoic]

And Pakistan makes quite a bit money when shamless BCCI/India govt, and you lot, not only decide/approve to play with Pakistan in ICC events but also relish watching the games THUS contributing in the money made by Pakistan.

Pakistan/PCB make money from the Indian market by just merely existing and showing up in major tournaments. That is out of India's control. Pak would earn decent amounts even if there was no Indo-Pak game. But as I said earlier, it's nothing compared to what they would earn through a full Indian tour in the form of TV deals and sponsorships. Simple logic.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

Throwing tantrums wont do anything. Action speaks louder than the words.

PCB should do things to get a reality check that where it stands in world cricket against BCCI :

1. TRY TO GO AHEAD WITH ASIA CUP WITHOUT INDIA and see if broadcasters agree with it as that would give them a reality check that sustaining ASIA CUP without INDIA is possible or not.


2. BOYCOTT WORLD CUP 2023 IN INDIA to see whether ICC shifts the venue to appease PCB or not.

 

[Major]

Which journalist? Is Jay Shah going to look different whem he is speaking as ACC head?

has he had a meeting with acc member before barking off like this? you seem to not understand a very simple point. He made these statements to BCCI not ACC members.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

has he had a meeting with acc member before barking off like this? you seem to not understand a very simple point. He made these statements to BCCI not ACC members.

It wont have made any difference, infact Its good that its known earlier than late and getting a shock. Now PCB can plan accordingly. Now fiery and grumpy RAMBO can either organise it in UAE or simply go ahead without INDIA's participation which looks more than impossible as broadcasters would simply not agree for it.

 

[Ryw]

Some very funny and chest thumpng replies in this thread but don’t forget Pakistan is not a number 1 team that everbody will care, they are a mediocer team. Top sponsors chase India not Pakistan and if India wants they can refuse to play with them at any venue.
At the end of the day all this chest thumping will die down when Pakistan will agree to play at neutral venue maybe in INDIA because this will generate even more dollars

 

[Energy]

Financial aspect. Absence of PAK wont matter much to broadcasters. One match between INDIA and PAK isnt bigger than the whole tournament that has India as one of the participants. Its the presence of INDIA in any ICC tournament that matters to broadcasters. Remember, how BCCI had its way over ICC in 2003 on endorsment issue as they had threatened to boycott the World Cup. One needs to be a dumb of top class to still think that BCCI will bow down as its not run by COA anymore.
Now the old stalwarts are back and they will dictate the terms. Also broadcasters chase INDIAN team globally as it brings a lot of revenue to them. So both these things makes it impossible for any other board to win against BCCI.

This is a claim made up by you and isnt accurate. How do you know absence of Pakistan at a major tournament doesn't matter to the ICC or the broadcasters?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some very funny and chest thumpng replies in this thread but don’t forget Pakistan is not a number 1 team that everbody will care, they are a mediocer team. Top sponsors chase India not Pakistan and if India wants they can refuse to play with them at any venue.
At the end of the day all this chest thumping will die down when Pakistan will agree to play at neutral venue maybe in INDIA because this will generate even more dollars

Why did we lose against this mediocre team in Asia Cup, WC and CT then?

 

[the Great Khan]

I think Pakistan should try and hold the tournament without India. That should be their first priority. But if that doesn't work then they should exit the ACC as it has failed its purpose. They could look to organise a regular tri series with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and look to create a new organisation to spread the game. Maybe in league with England and other countries. Nowadays you can organise a good t20 tri series very quickly.

Yes India has the money but let's face it they play boring cricket.

As for boycotting the 50 over wc I think they should consider it as the 50 over game is looking long in the tooth and it could sound its death knell..however it may hit us in the coffers so that may not be a possibility..unless the pcb make contingency financial arrangements. Its still one of the richest orgs in Pakistan and can survive this..if the rss fanatics couldn't bury us when they had us by the balls they can't now.

 

[cricketjoshila]

has he had a meeting with acc member before barking off like this? you seem to not understand a very simple point. He made these statements to BCCI not ACC members.

He may have spoken to ACC members on phone etc. We don't know.

And he made the statement to Journalists.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is a claim made up by you and isnt accurate. How do you know absence of Pakistan at a major tournament doesn't matter to the ICC or the broadcasters?

Money wise doesn't. Its well known and has been said many times that majority of ICC revenue comes from India.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...on-it-ramiz-raja/amp_articleshow/86857321.cms

PCB chief himself said so.

 

[Major]

It wont have made any difference, infact Its good that its known earlier than late and getting a shock. Now PCB can plan accordingly. Now fiery and grumpy RAMBO can either organise it in UAE or simply go ahead without INDIA's participation which looks more than impossible as broadcasters would simply not agree for it.

it does make a difference, you dont make statememnts just by disucssing with your own country especially when you claim to be the representative of all asian countries.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

This is a claim made up by you and isnt accurate. How do you know absence of Pakistan at a major tournament doesn't matter to the ICC or the broadcasters?

Even if it matters, whom will ICC choose coz its about who matters the most ? Whom will the broadcasters choose ? Whose presence or absence will impact an ICC tournament ? And the claim is not made by me. Its a reality. Ask any broadcaster or cricketing board or even ICC regarding this.

 

[Major]

He may have spoken to ACC members on phone etc. We don't know.

And he made the statement to Journalists.

no he has not. BCCI had AGM meeting.

It was an irresponsible statement by him and i understand your blind nationalism wont allow you to critisize him which is why you have to say may and be speculative

 

[cricketjoshila]

no he has not. BCCI had AGM meeting.

It was an irresponsible statement by him and i understand your blind nationalism wont allow you to critisize him which is why you have to say may and be speculative

He made that statement to the journos. Not during the AGM.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

it does make a difference, you dont make statememnts just by disucssing with your own country especially when you claim to be the representative of all asian countries.

Well, Jay Shah has made BCCI's intention clear as an office bearer of BCCI. He will approve the same as Chairman of ACC and then PCB can decide about their course of action. Things wont change. Either ASIA CUP will be scrapped forever or venue will be changed. India is already so busy with their schedule that it wont affect them a bit. They will be more than happy to organise a bilateral in that slot whose revenue wont have to be shared by BCCI.

 

[alone1213]

Pakistan should not travel to India for 2023 world cup. Pakistan should not play the world cup in India.Players can get seriously hurt. India hates muslims and this government is just the worst on this earth and muslim hatred is on all time high now.For the safety of players Pakistan should not come to India.

It doesn't matter whether India comes or not for Asia Cup 2023. This Asia Cup should be scrapped for the good.

 

[MenInG]

He made that statement to the journos. Not during the AGM.

He would not say that without discussing it.

From BCCI article:

6. The Senior Men’s Future Tour Programs for 2023-2027 and Senior Women’s Future Tour Programs for 2022-2025 were approved by the General Body.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

He made that statement to the journos. Not during the AGM.

The fact is that he didnt keep anyone in dark. Thats a good thing. PCB would have gone bonkers when it would have been revealed later coz they were hoping that IND would tour PAK for Asia Cup as there were reports that BCCI is looking forward to it.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

Pakistan should not travel to India for 2023 world cup. Pakistan should not play the world cup in India.Players can get seriously hurt. India hates muslims and this government is just the worst on this earth and muslim hatred is on all time high now.For the safety of players Pakistan should not come to India.

It doesn't matter whether India comes or not for Asia Cup 2023. This Asia Cup should be scrapped for the good.

Except ICC tournaments no other multilateral tournament should be played that has INDIA and PAK together. It brings a lot of nuisance due to the political bitterness between the two. The problem of venue will always make things dirty...So its better if ASIA CUP is scrapped.

 

[daytrader]

All talk now. After we beat them in the WC, BCCI will be looking for every opportunity to play us.

 

[Ab Fan]

Why did we lose against this mediocre team in Asia Cup, WC and CT then?

Poor argument but it is expected of you.

We beat them in WC 2019 FYI. The pinnacle of the world tournament.

We beat them and then they beat is in Asia Cup so 1-1.

We beat them 2-0 in Asia Cup in 2018.

In CT, we lost that important game in final but we beat them in league game too.

Get your facts and knowledge right.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

All talk now. After we beat them in the WC, BCCI will be looking for every opportunity to play us.

Its the Government of India that will stop them even if BCCI would want to play Pak. So, its almost impossible that INDIA and PAK would play regularly coz firstly BCCI wont agree and if BCCI agrees then GOVT. OF INDIA wont allow them. Crossing both the hurdles is impossible in near future. Govt. doesnt care if India loses to Pak in a cricket match. They have their own policy. It doesnt get dictated with the result of a match, infact I dont think these things like losing to Pak will make BCCI eager to play Pak to avenge the defeat coz its not a gully cricket where u want to prove a point asap to satisfy your ego. Things dont work like that on top levels.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Pakistan/PCB make money from the Indian market by just merely existing and showing up in major tournaments. That is out of India's control. Pak would earn decent amounts even if there was no Indo-Pak game. But as I said earlier, it's nothing compared to what they would earn through a full Indian tour in the form of TV deals and sponsorships. Simple logic.

Isn't that a wet slap on your face?
You don't play a series with Pakistan because it's army has killed your jawaans and it has caused 26/11 and ISI is turning havoc loose in Kashmir etc, and yet your mere existence helps Pakistan make money, and you can't do anything about it? PCB takes millions from ICC who takes it from BCCI. lol

And what difference does it make whether Pakistan makes millions of dollars (by playing test series with India) or a few hundred thousand dollars (by playing India in ICC events)? The aatma of your dead Jawaans would hurt equally.

You said it's out of India's control?
Of course it is.
Don't play with Pakistan in ICC events. It's in your control. Boycott them. Which means, no match, no air time and no advertising deals if there is no game, and none of that money to Pak. Does BCCI/Terrorist Indian govt, have that iota of self respect to do that? I doubt it.

And you still didn't answer.
Why does India not play with Pakistan in a bilateral series? You said, we don't understand the reason. Please enlighten us.

Also, why does your shameless lot watch India Pakistan games in ICC events?

 

[Major]

Well, Jay Shah has made BCCI's intention clear as an office bearer of BCCI. He will approve the same as Chairman of ACC and then PCB can decide about their course of action. Things wont change. Either ASIA CUP will be scrapped forever or venue will be changed. India is already so busy with their schedule that it wont affect them a bit. They will be more than happy to organise a bilateral in that slot whose revenue wont have to be shared by BCCI.

u seem to not understand.

 

[Major]

He made that statement to the journos. Not during the AGM.

he made the statement after the AGM meeting with BCCI.

He hasnt done a meeting with ACC to maek such statement

 

[Snowflake]

BCCI is too big for small minded desi Indian men to run.

 

[Kriketer]

They can pretend all they want that world doesn't care if Pakistan is there or not, but come Sunday the whole nation of "pretenders" will come to pin drop silence stand still... That's the "power of Pakistan cricket" in India. You can pretend about money from your mickey mouse IPL and other teams but none of if has impact on Indians as against the "nobody cares about" team called Pakistan.

What absolute hypocrites and shamelesness

 

[Major]

They can pretend all they want that world doesn't care if Pakistan is there or not, but come Sunday the whole nation of "pretenders" will come to pin drop silence stand still... That's the "power of Pakistan cricket" in India. You can pretend about money from your mickey mouse IPL and other teams but none of if has impact on Indians as against the "nobody cares about" team called Pakistan.

What absolute hypocrites and shamelesness

you will many different indian posters show up on the commentary thread jsut for that match. you wont see them during the whole year, thats how desperate they are but will never admit

 

[cricketjoshila]

he made the statement after the AGM meeting with BCCI.

He hasnt done a meeting with ACC to maek such statement

He may have talked to ACC members over phone. You Me have no idea.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They can pretend all they want that world doesn't care if Pakistan is there or not, but come Sunday the whole nation of "pretenders" will come to pin drop silence stand still... That's the "power of Pakistan cricket" in India. You can pretend about money from your mickey mouse IPL and other teams but none of if has impact on Indians as against the "nobody cares about" team called Pakistan.

What absolute hypocrites and shamelesness

So Indians should not support their team and watch their matches when they play pakistan? Why?

Power of Pakistan cricket? Why don't you tell that to sponsors and Broadcasters? They may pay some more money and PCB wont be dependent on ICC for 50 per cent of its funding.

 

[Major]

He may have talked to ACC members over phone. You Me have no idea.

no need to speculate here. He may had called rameez raja and apologised, bush may had done 9/11....

He made an irresponsible statement, this is something that should had been discussed in an ACC meeting. No meeting was held where this was said.

ANd no, right after the BCCI meeting he did not go around calling all members of ACC. Atleast 6 members along with the associate playing qualifiers are involved in ASIA Cup, so you are gonna pretend here and say he MAY have called each member before barking such things to journalist?

No point in further qouting me if you have cant critisize a person just because he is Indian. For once, take of your blind nationalist glasses. But than again I am asking too much from you

 

[Colorblind Genius]

So Indians should not support their team and watch their matches when they play pakistan? Why?

.

No you can't have it both ways.

If you watch India Pak cricket, you help Pakistan make money and you disrespect your dead jawaans and victims of 26/11. These two factors easily trump "supporting your team".

You can either support your team or hurt the aatma of your dead jawaans.

Otherwise, if "supporting your team" matters more, then you should always play bilateral series with Pakistan to "SUPPORT YOUR TEAM".

The best way is to boycott Pakistan in ICC events as well. This way there won't be a game and you won't have to support your team anymore, and the aatma of your jawaans won't hurt either - and Pak won't make that chunk of money either because once you announce the boycott prior to the tournament, there won't be any ads contracts.

Let see if that triggers any self respect in you?

 

[daytrader]

Its the Government of India that will stop them even if BCCI would want to play Pak. So, its almost impossible that INDIA and PAK would play regularly coz firstly BCCI wont agree and if BCCI agrees then GOVT. OF INDIA wont allow them. Crossing both the hurdles is impossible in near future. Govt. doesnt care if India loses to Pak in a cricket match. They have their own policy. It doesnt get dictated with the result of a match, infact I dont think these things like losing to Pak will make BCCI eager to play Pak to avenge the defeat coz its not a gully cricket where u want to prove a point asap to satisfy your ego. Things dont work like that on top levels.

Will the people of India care if they lose? Would they want more matches with Pakistan? The government is elected by people and a few influential voices is all its going to take for GOI to reverse its policy

 

[cricketjoshila]

No you can't have it both ways.

If you watch India Pak cricket, you help Pakistan make money and you disrespect your dead jawaans and victims of 26/11. These two factors easily trump "supporting your team".

You can either support your team or hurt the aatma of your dead jawaans.

Otherwise, if "supporting your team" matters more, then you should always play bilateral series with Pakistan to "SUPPORT YOUR TEAM".

The best way is to boycott Pakistan in ICC events as well. This way there won't be a game and you won't have to support your team anymore, and the aatma of your jawaans won't hurt either - and Pak won't make that chunk of money either because once you announce the boycott prior to the tournament, there won't be any ads contracts.

Let see if that triggers any self respect in you?

We can have it anyway we want. Its our wish. There is nothing that stops us.We will support our team.

And ICC rights are sold as a composite tender. Indo pak matches are not sold separately. So get out of this delusion that pakistan is being specially funded. Pakistan will get its share as per ICC rules for playing in the tournament.

Secondly, why should we help pakistan in a tournament by giving them 2 points? Thats rewarding pakistan. Why will we do that?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will the people of India care if they lose? Would they want more matches with Pakistan? The government is elected by people and a few influential voices is all its going to take for GOI to reverse its policy

India played pakistan regularly in India's worst phase. They lost more than they won.

 

[Markhor]

Why?

Why should pakistan bare the expense? Why shouldnt pakistan make money off of it?

What bcci is doing is ridiculous, and ICC needs to intervene here, its getting too ridiculous

There's no point us being jazbati about an entirely predictable stumbling block. India's Govt were never going to grant the permission. The bigger picture is I want Pakistan to host a major tournament for the sake of our international prestige.

I want us to host our first Asia Cup in 15 years and with the 2025 Champions Trophy our first ICC tournament since 1996. If we have to host India's matches in UAE, and the rest in Pakistan then so be it. We've been bearing expenses of playing in UAE for 10 years, why can't we do so for a handful of matches over a couple of weeks ? Have multilateral tournaments not been split across two countries before ?

We've worked so hard to stage marquee events again, so if anti-Pakistan bigots across the border want to play hardball, then just work around them. The political realities are what they are. I know that's a minority view but Pakistanis too often let emotion triumph over logic and pragmatism.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

We can have it anyway we want. Its our wish. There is nothing that stops us.We will support our team.

And ICC rights are sold as a composite tender. Indo pak matches are not sold separately. So get out of this delusion that pakistan is being specially funded. Pakistan will get its share as per ICC rules for playing in the tournament.

Secondly, why should we help pakistan in a tournament by giving them 2 points? Thats rewarding pakistan. Why will we do that?

Well, if one wants to have it both ways, then obviously that makes him a baighairut - I mean, a big time.

2 points? Is that all dead jawaans and their families worth to you? You can't let go of two points for them?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well, if one wants to have it both ways, then obviously that makes him a baighairut - I mean, a big time.

2 points? Is that all dead jawaans and their families worth to you? You can't let go of two points for them?

One can have it anyway because one can, then that makes the guy powerful, while those who cannot will froth at the mouth and throw toys out of the pram.

Why should we help pakistan? We should not give even 0.1 free points, let alone 2.

 

[Major]

There's no point us being jazbati about an entirely predictable stumbling block. India's Govt were never going to grant the permission. The bigger picture is I want Pakistan to host a major tournament for the sake of our international prestige.

I want us to host our first Asia Cup in 15 years and with the 2025 Champions Trophy our first ICC tournament since 1996. If we have to host India's matches in UAE, and the rest in Pakistan then so be it. We've been bearing expenses of playing in UAE for 10 years, why can't we do so for a handful of matches over a couple of weeks ? Have multilateral tournaments not been split across two countries before ?

We've worked so hard to stage marquee events again, so if anti-Pakistan bigots across the border want to play hardball, then just work around them. The political realities are what they are. I know that's a minority view but Pakistanis too often let emotion triumph over logic and pragmatism.

i get your point, but just for the sake of India we cant do this. What if India reaches the final, you cant have a final being schedule at a new ground at the last minute.

The issue i have here is that its India having the issue, so why should the whole tournament be shifted out of Pakistan.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

One can have it anyway because one can, then that makes the guy powerful, while those who cannot will froth at the mouth and throw toys out of the pram.

Why should we help pakistan? We should not give even 0.1 free points, let alone 2.

but then dead bodies of your jawaans and their left over loved get hurt. Wasn't that the reason you wouldn't play with Pakistan who caused 26/11?

 

[sjahmed23]

There's no point us being jazbati about an entirely predictable stumbling block. India's Govt were never going to grant the permission. The bigger picture is I want Pakistan to host a major tournament for the sake of our international prestige.

I want us to host our first Asia Cup in 15 years and with the 2025 Champions Trophy our first ICC tournament since 1996. If we have to host India's matches in UAE, and the rest in Pakistan then so be it. We've been bearing expenses of playing in UAE for 10 years, why can't we do so for a handful of matches over a couple of weeks ? Have multilateral tournaments not been split across two countries before ?

We've worked so hard to stage marquee events again, so if anti-Pakistan bigots across the border want to play hardball, then just work around them. The political realities are what they are. I know that's a minority view but Pakistanis too often let emotion triumph over logic and pragmatism.

This is the most rational thing and logical thing to do. It is what it is we have to make the tournaments a success and that's it. We cannot do anything if someone is immature and cannot keep petty politics out of everything in life.

 

[pratiktc]

Both boards are driven by financial considerations. They will do pragmatic thing and as usual work out a solution to try and play 2-3 India-Pak games in some neutral country under the guise of Asia Cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Poor argument but it is expected of you.

We beat them in WC 2019 FYI. The pinnacle of the world tournament.

We beat them and then they beat is in Asia Cup so 1-1.

We beat them 2-0 in Asia Cup in 2018.

In CT, we lost that important game in final but we beat them in league game too.

Get your facts and knowledge right.

Poor argument is what you did in this post. Read my question again and tell me how was Pakistan a mediocre team?

 

[msb314]

[Report] PCB contemplating pulling out of ACC

Seems like Jay Shah’s recent comments has left a sour taste in PCB’s mouth and hence they are contemplating leaving the ACC.

However no formal decision or even comment from the PCB Spokesman has been made yet.

Discuss..

 

[PakFan2010]

Right decision.

Pakistan should pull out of the Asia Cup.

They should not pull out of ICC tournaments as that would be more damaging.

 

[Osama Shafeeqe]

Pakistan should still hold the Asia Cup in Pakistan. If India does not want to attend then so be it. ACC can still sell the broadcasting rights but obviously it won't go for the same amount without India. Pakistan needs to put their foot down now or else the same situation will happen in Champions Trophy 2025 and Pakistan will be forced to relinquish that hosting as well.

 

[ElRaja]

makes sense, its obvious the acc is run by the bcci, and that the bcci want to marginalise Pakistan wherever possible. pak will survive.

 

[Major]

good decision, would there be any repercussions? Does a team have to be a part of a regional council or not

 

[Suleiman]

Pakistan should still hold the Asia Cup in Pakistan. If India does not want to attend then so be it. ACC can still sell the broadcasting rights but obviously it won't go for the same amount without India. Pakistan needs to put their foot down now or else the same situation will happen in Champions Trophy 2025 and Pakistan will be forced to relinquish that hosting as well.

Agreed. If India wants to sit this one out, it’s their prerogative. We shouldn’t have to relinquish our hosting rights if all other teams are willing to tour.

 

[pakpassfan]

PCB doesn't have the balls

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

The best revenge is to host the Asia Cup and to force indian fans and their cricketers watching the tournament on their TVs asking "why are we not playing?" Why would the correct response be to leave the organization that has awarded you hosting rights?

 

[Ozeirk]

Before everyone starts discussing this topic. The op seems to be fake. No source has been provided.

 

[reversehook]

Before everyone starts discussing this topic. The op seems to be fake. No source has been provided.

Even on the A Sports show the pavillion they hinted at this that RR is fuming and not happy... so there is something brewing... pcb should be wise enough to tell india that ok if u dont wanna come, relinquish the tournament and thats ok... simple... that will suit PCB more realistically and without furthering the indian agenda...

 

[PakLFC]

Pak is also threatening to pull out of the WC in India next year. Pak needs to become much more tougher with India and the ICC too. Should Pak go ahead and boycott the WC it will change the entire tournament and status quo with such a major team opting out. It has never happened before. India knows all there other options have failed. They have tried stopping Pak artists in Bollywood and Cricket too. Now that other countries are again touring Pak they are very frustrated whilst the situation in IoK remains the same.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/pak...cup-report-3443103#pfrom=home-ndtv_uktrending

""The PCB is now prepared to take hard decisions and play hard ball because it is also aware that the ICC and ACC events will have to face commercial liabilities and losses if Pakistan does not play India in these multi-team events," a senior PCB source told PTI on the condition of anonymity."

 

[alone1213]

I will be so so happy if they does it.
Kudos to PCB if this is true..

No cricket with enemy hindus terrorists..

I really really hope it's true.

 

[Hitman]

Just host the next Asia Cup without India. Simple really.

 

[Savak]

PCB will face huge financial losses. Don't think the PDM govt and the Pakistani army will support this.

 

[alone1213]

PCB will face huge financial losses. Don't think the PDM govt and the Pakistani army will support this.

Just for once they have to take the right decision.
They have to stop being a beggar for once.

Just don't play India ever.

 

[msb314]

Before everyone starts discussing this topic. The op seems to be fake. No source has been provided.

It’s definitely not fake because ESPNCricinfo also reported it

 

[msb314]

Agreed. If India wants to sit this one out, it’s their prerogative. We shouldn’t have to relinquish our hosting rights if all other teams are willing to tour.

The best revenge is to host the Asia Cup and to force indian fans and their cricketers watching the tournament on their TVs asking "why are we not playing?" Why would the correct response be to leave the organization that has awarded you hosting rights?

Pak is also threatening to pull out of the WC in India next year. Pak needs to become much more tougher with India and the ICC too. Should Pak go ahead and boycott the WC it will change the entire tournament and status quo with such a major team opting out. It has never happened before. India knows all there other options have failed. They have tried stopping Pak artists in Bollywood and Cricket too. Now that other countries are again touring Pak they are very frustrated whilst the situation in IoK remains the same.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/pak...cup-report-3443103#pfrom=home-ndtv_uktrending

""The PCB is now prepared to take hard decisions and play hard ball because it is also aware that the ICC and ACC events will have to face commercial liabilities and losses if Pakistan does not play India in these multi-team events," a senior PCB source told PTI on the condition of anonymity."

PCB will face huge financial losses. Don't think the PDM govt and the Pakistani army will support this.

Just for once they have to take the right decision.
They have to stop being a beggar for once.

Just don't play India ever.

Saner heads needs to prevail..

The idea solution IMO is to host all Indian games in UAE and the rest of the teams to play in Pakistan. If India reaches the final - the have them play in Pakistan..

 

[Slim]

I didnt know BCCI / Indian Govt could be this petty and pathetic. They really have reached a new low with this. If Pakistan decides to leave ACC because of this, then be it! Without India/Pakistan, its a meaningless tournament anyway. India can organize another Nidhas and bash the poor Banglas and Lankans.

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

Saner heads needs to prevail..

The idea solution IMO is to host all Indian games in UAE and the rest of the teams to play in Pakistan. If India reaches the final - the have them play in Pakistan..

Next you'll be asking us to shine their shoes as well

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

India can organize another Nidhas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidahas_Trophy

Nidahas was organized by Sri Lanka Cricket

 

[Slim]

Saner heads needs to prevail..

The idea solution IMO is to host all Indian games in UAE and the rest of the teams to play in Pakistan. If India reaches the final - the have them play in Pakistan..

Why are we bending for them? Whats so insane about visiting Pakistan? Its not even about security anymore since the English and Aussies have visited. The only people who need to get their head right are the novuea rich Indian board who are acting like gayun ki aurat.

 

[Slim]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidahas_Trophy

Nidahas was organized by Sri Lanka Cricket

Next time BCCI can do the honors. Cheapos. We should actively push for a Kiwi, Australia tri series in Pakistan instead.

 

[IccKnockout]

Seems like Jay Shah’s recent comments has left a sour taste in PCB’s mouth and hence they are contemplating leaving the ACC.

However no formal decision or even comment from the PCB Spokesman has been made yet.

Discuss..

Ramiz is just trying to save face temporarily.

Pakistan will not leave ACC.

This is just to please the common people (aka fools)

 

[msb314]

Next you'll be asking us to shine their shoes as well

Let India do why they want but tell them the tournament will happen in Pakistan. Give them a way out as well but if they don’t accept - then too bad..

Pakistan will be happy the tournmanent t happened in Pakistan.

And India will be happy they didn’t have to go to Pakistan.

Problem solved

 

[msb314]

Why are we bending for them? Whats so insane about visiting Pakistan? Its not even about security anymore since the English and Aussies have visited. The only people who need to get their head right are the novuea rich Indian board who are acting like gayun ki aurat.

Not “bending” but this way both parties will
Be happy.

 

[Slim]

Ramiz is just trying to save face temporarily.

Pakistan will not leave ACC.

This is just to please the common people (aka fools)

The fools are the indian public who are regularly taken on their jingo fueled ride where they are made to feel superior by one upping Pakistani govt/cricket board when in reality public on both side is losing.

 

[IccKnockout]

The fools are the indian public who are regularly taken on their jingo fueled ride where they are made to feel superior by one upping Pakistani govt/cricket board when in reality public on both side is losing.

You might be right.

But PCB is not leaving ACC.

All these statements are bravado for twitter consumption.

Wait and watch.

 

[Slim]

You might be right.

But PCB is not leaving ACC.

All these statements are bravado for twitter consumption.

Wait and watch.

Theres literally no reason for PCB to stick with ACC. They get no advantages because of them. Why stay? Its better to leave and make a statement. Enough politicizing of the sport.

 

[Bilal7]

If they don't tour for the Asia Cup, Pakistan shouldn't go to India for the World Cup citing the same reasons and hold a domestic limited overs tournament.

They should also lodge official complaints to the ICC and try to get other boards on their side. It's one thing to refuse a bilateral series but another to refuse to participate in a tournament.

Additionally, some action along the LOC a week or two before the tournament starts and amassing of Pak troops at the border is enough to make some of the other teams nervous.

You want to get political? Let's political then.

So Pakistan seems to be making the right moves. Either come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup or no Pakistani participation in India's home world cup.

I'd love to see the financial implications of this move that will have the BCCI shook.

India really has zero leverage here. Australia, England and New Zealand have all played in Pakistan recently with no problems, with the players, boards and fans all loving the experience. There are clearly no security issues so what exactly are they going to use as their reasoning? For the IPL, they can claim that it it their league and their rules but these are tournaments under the ACC and ICC banner, you can't mess around with these without airing your bigotry for the world to see.

England, especially, has a thriving Pakistani expat population. I'm sure British Pakistanis wouldn't let this discrimination slide and the ECB would be forced to side with Pakistan after their soccer counterpart's criticism of Qatar, a country that is Paradise in comparison to India, and their own recent episodes around racism. If the ECB sides with Pakistan, you will very quickly see the rest of the boards do the same, especially when many have their own problems with the BCCI.

2023 could be the year that the BCCI's tyranny ends and we finally go back to playing some damn cricket. What a bunch of clowns for making cricket, of all things, a battleground, lol. When it comes to real combat, these softies are content to drink chai.

 

[Slim]

Pakistanis need to learn nationalism from India. If their government or any national organization says the Earth is flat, Indians unite in proving them right. On the other hand, Pakistanis start ridiculing their government when it takes such a position, and people who resort to illicit profiteering in every walk of life suddenly become the ambassadors of humanity and truth.

I hope Ramiz stands by his words and Pakistan does not participate in the world cup in India. I've been yelling the same on PCB's Facebook page the last few times we've gone there, but my fellows from Pakistan leave laugh reactions on my post to project an aura of maturity.

This and this. Indian public acts like Zombies unfortunately. I have found them to have all kind of weird views about Pakistan in North America even though they are quite amicable people.

 

[Bilal7]

Pakistanis need to learn nationalism from India. If their government or any national organization says the Earth is flat, Indians unite in proving them right. On the other hand, Pakistanis start ridiculing their government when it takes such a position, and people who resort to illicit profiteering in every walk of life suddenly become the ambassadors of humanity and truth.

I hope Ramiz stands by his words and Pakistan does not participate in the world cup in India. I've been yelling the same on PCB's Facebook page the last few times we've gone there, but my fellows from Pakistan leave laugh reactions on my post to project an aura of maturity.

Lolwut? Nationalism? From India? They are the most disunited people in the world. Do ask Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Dalits, Kashmiris, Punjabis, farmers, atheists and liberals/secularists what they think about the Indian government.

Cricket is the one thing where India is able to project its soft power and they are showing everyone exactly why they don't deserve power anywhere else.

 

[Slim]

So Pakistan seems to be making the right moves. Either come to Pakistan to play the Asia cup or no Pakistani participation in India's home world cup.

I'd love to see the financial implications of this move that will have the BCCI shook.

India really has zero leverage here. Australia, England and New Zealand have all played in Pakistan recently with no problems, with the players, boards and fans all loving the experience. There are clearly no security issues so what exactly are they going to use as their reasoning? For the IPL, they can claim that it it their league and their rules but these are tournaments under the ACC and ICC banner, you can't mess around with these without airing your bigotry for the world to see.

England, especially, has a thriving Pakistani expat population. I'm sure British Pakistanis wouldn't let this discrimination slide and the ECB would be forced to side with Pakistan after their soccer counterpart's criticism of Qatar, a country that is Paradise in comparison to India, and their own recent episodes around racism. If the ECB sides with Pakistan, you will very quickly see the rest of the boards do the same, especially when many have their own problems with the BCCI.

2023 could be the year that the BCCI's tyranny ends and we finally go back to playing some damn cricket. What a bunch of clowns for making cricket, of all things, a battleground, lol. When it comes to real combat, these softies are content to drink chai.

We should never not attend an ICC event. Theres a thin line being smart and going full insane. We ain't skipping any ICC event. We should never set a wrong precedent. But yes, Asia cup, fair enough!

 

[Slim]

Some very funny and chest thumpng replies in this thread but don’t forget Pakistan is not a number 1 team that everbody will care, they are a mediocer team. Top sponsors chase India not Pakistan and if India wants they can refuse to play with them at any venue.
At the end of the day all this chest thumping will die down when Pakistan will agree to play at neutral venue maybe in INDIA because this will generate even more dollars

What a pathetic and sad post. Is cricket all about money now? Is BCCI sending a pay cheque to you for every time they one up Pakistan? How disgusting.

 

[Smbhayi]

Throwing tantrums wont do anything. Action speaks louder than the words.

PCB should do things to get a reality check that where it stands in world cricket against BCCI :

1. TRY TO GO AHEAD WITH ASIA CUP WITHOUT INDIA and see if broadcasters agree with it as that would give them a reality check that sustaining ASIA CUP without INDIA is possible or not.


2. BOYCOTT WORLD CUP 2023 IN INDIA to see whether ICC shifts the venue to appease PCB or not.

Agree with 1st.. they should hold it Pak even it might be a loss from financial POV.. you've to loss something to gain something..

And lol at 2.. they should play and beat us comprehensively, that'll be a sweet revenge, and just mock govt/bcci on social media without mercy..

 

[Smbhayi]

What a pathetic and sad post. Is cricket all about money now? Is BCCI sending a pay cheque to you for every time they one up Pakistan? How disgusting.

(Almost) everything is about money, not just cricket.. even Fifa changes their usual wc time to host it in Qatar...

 

[Punjab Kings]

Pakistanis need to learn nationalism from India. If their government or any national organization says the Earth is flat, Indians unite in proving them right. On the other hand, Pakistanis start ridiculing their government when it takes such a position, and people who resort to illicit profiteering in every walk of life suddenly become the ambassadors of humanity and truth.

I hope Ramiz stands by his words and Pakistan does not participate in the world cup in India. I've been yelling the same on PCB's Facebook page the last few times we've gone there, but my fellows from Pakistan leave laugh reactions on my post to project an aura of maturity.

Not all indians brother, only Godi Bhakts.....they are the cancer for our country.
Even majority of we Indians love to play with Pakistan and also in Pakistan..