Where will Asia Cup 2023 be played?

[Rajdeep]

This can only be seen as a win for PCB. It shows that pulling out of a tournament would be a financial loss for all boards without Pakistan involved. Just goes to show how big of a cash cow Pak vs Ind is and boards would rather visit Pakistan than take that financial hit.

PCB needed this to ensure that the 2025 Champions Trophy is held in Pakistan and with a successful Asia Cup, there could be pressure on BCCI to also send their team to Pakistan in 2025. With this, a potential World Cup may be in the cards for Pakistan.

I think same arrangement will be made for 2025 Champions trophy as well i.e India games will be played in neutral venue but the tournament stays in Pakistan. There is no way India would be travelling to Pakistan, no chance.

This is a win win situation for both boards as PCB get to host the tournament and Indian team didn't have to travel to Pakistan.

 

[msb314]

I think same arrangement will be made for 2025 Champions trophy as well i.e India games will be played in neutral venue but the tournament stays in Pakistan. There is no way India would be travelling to Pakistan, no chance.

This is a win win situation for both boards as PCB get to host the tournament and Indian team didn't have to travel to Pakistan.

Then apply the same principle for 2023 ODI WC please. Arrange Pakistan matches in UAE and the rest in India

 

[Savak]

Very well played and handled by Najam Sethi. He has salvaged Pakistan's pride, rights and ensured no loss of face. The PCB feared the increased travelling costs and hosting costs will be a burden if the PCB has to host India in the UAE but they see the bigger picture. Hosting the Asia Cup successfully in Pakistan will go a big way of bringing future tournaments to Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

Apparently Sethi took a strong stance and demanded the entire Asia Cup in Pakistan. Sethi also apparently used the Indian Sports Minister statement that he has left the decision to tour Pakistan to the BCCI to his advantage i.e. it is the BCCI which is refusing to tour Pakistan and not the Indian government in this case. Sethi also threatened to pull Pakistan out of the ODI WC in 2023 in India and that the ICC and the other member boards will have to face the losses.

It is after Sethi's hard initial stance when the BCCI and the other Asian Countries came up with the hybrid model that India be allowed to play its games in a neutral venue and everyone else can play in Pakistan. Sethi apparently has also rejected this and said the increased travelling, logistical, broadcasting costs will dillute the profits of the tournament for the PCB. Sethi used the recent visits by Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Australia, England, NZ visits to Pakistan, PSL tournaments in Pakistan as proof there is no issue as far as hosting international tournaments in Pakistan and India has not provided any solid reasons not to visit Pakistan. If the Indians insist on playing their games in a neutral venue then they will be responsible for their own travelling costs, logistic costs themselves. Sethi also apparently threatened to pull out of the Asia Cup altogether and then the rest of the Asian Boards will have to suffer loss in earnings due to the absence of Indo Pak contests which will destroy the purpose of the Asia Cup altogether.

Say what you want, Najam Sethi has totally surprised the BCCI and the other Asian Boards with his hard remarks, stance and the fact he had an answer for every move made by the BCCI.

The BCCI being in a conflict with the ICC with regards to the tax exemption issue for the ODI WC in 2023 is also not helping the BCCI either.

 

[MenInG]

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has seemingly found a way to keep the hosting rights of Asia Cup 2023. The BCCI had already informed the PCB that it won't be sending the Men in Blue to Pakistan for the continental tournament. With PCB keen to host the tournament, the board has found a solution and India will be part of Asia Cup.

As per a media repo, India's matches will be played at a neutral venue. The report adds that England is one of the contenders which can host India's fixtures. It is to be noted that India and Pakistan will square off twice in the tournament and both the marquee matches could be played in England.

This year, the Asia Cup will return to the 50-over format. In 2022, the tournament was played in a T20 format to prepare the teams for the T20 World Cup that started a month after the Asian tournament. With a 50-over World Cup to be played after the Asia Cup, the tournament will be played in the 50-over format.

India won the previous 50-over Asia Cup played in 2018. The BCCI was slated to host the tournament but it was played in UAE. The Indian board continued to hold the hosting rights.

With India refusing to tour Pakistan for Asia Cup, it remains to be seen if the Men in Green will land in India for the 2023 World Cup or not. The PCB had threatened to boycott the ICC event. A clear picture regarding Pakistan's status will be known in the next few months.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...d-host-indias-matches-report-article-98948843

 

[Savak]

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has seemingly found a way to keep the hosting rights of Asia Cup 2023. The BCCI had already informed the PCB that it won't be sending the Men in Blue to Pakistan for the continental tournament. With PCB keen to host the tournament, the board has found a solution and India will be part of Asia Cup.

As per a media repo, India's matches will be played at a neutral venue. The report adds that England is one of the contenders which can host India's fixtures. It is to be noted that India and Pakistan will square off twice in the tournament and both the marquee matches could be played in England.

This year, the Asia Cup will return to the 50-over format. In 2022, the tournament was played in a T20 format to prepare the teams for the T20 World Cup that started a month after the Asian tournament. With a 50-over World Cup to be played after the Asia Cup, the tournament will be played in the 50-over format.

India won the previous 50-over Asia Cup played in 2018. The BCCI was slated to host the tournament but it was played in UAE. The Indian board continued to hold the hosting rights.

With India refusing to tour Pakistan for Asia Cup, it remains to be seen if the Men in Green will land in India for the 2023 World Cup or not. The PCB had threatened to boycott the ICC event. A clear picture regarding Pakistan's status will be known in the next few months.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...d-host-indias-matches-report-article-98948843

According to a few sports reporters close to Sethi, the PCB hasn't backed off from their position of hosting the entire Asia Cup in Pakistan, the option of a neutral venue was apparently introduced by BCCI and the other Asian countries when Pakistan threatened to withdraw from the Asia Cup and not go to the ODI WC either.

 

[Major]

Poor stuff from Sethi if he caved in.

Pakistan should had pulled out of the asia cup and world cup

 

[Suleiman]

Very well played and handled by Najam Sethi. He has salvaged Pakistan's pride, rights and ensured no loss of face. The PCB feared the increased travelling costs and hosting costs will be a burden if the PCB has to host India in the UAE but they see the bigger picture. Hosting the Asia Cup successfully in Pakistan will go a big way of bringing future tournaments to Pakistan.

Another W for Sethi as chairman after PSL.

 

[Savak]

Poor stuff from Sethi if he caved in.

Pakistan should had pulled out of the asia cup and world cup

How did he cave in? Even if India plays its games on neutral venue, he has made it clear that they will be responsible for their own travelling, accommodation and logistics and that the PCB will ultimately get the same lion share of the revenue as the host nation as if it was hosting the entire event in Pakistan. I think it's a good deal for Pakistan

 

[hitthestump]

Poor stuff from Sethi if he caved in.

Pakistan should had pulled out of the asia cup and world cup

Eh? This is a negotiation. Pakistan can have that option on the table but if an acceptable outcome is reached then the PCB need to show that they are capable of being reasonable.

I think Sethi has done well here. I'm surprised the BCCI have been flexible as well, they could easily have called his bluff and it wouldn't really have impacted them.

 

[msb314]

I think this is a good outcome for us. The only thing I think Sethi should have insisted is doing the final in Pakistan - even if India qualified..

 

[Major]

How did he cave in? Even if India plays its games on neutral venue, he has made it clear that they will be responsible for their own travelling, accommodation and logistics and that the PCB will ultimately get the same lion share of the revenue as the host nation as if it was hosting the entire event in Pakistan. I think it's a good deal for Pakistan

there is no source of this news. Just here say.

Its about making a point, Pakistan has toured India many times and India should do the same or else both should pull out.

If India pays for its own travelling and still plays neutral, its a win for them..

This is no way to host a tournament. Whats next, Whenever Paksitan gets hosting rights, teams will start playing in neutral venues with their own money?

This is the dumbest thing ever and defending this is even more dumb. We also lose home advantage.

 

[ahsan17]

This can only be seen as a win for PCB. It shows that pulling out of a tournament would be a financial loss for all boards without Pakistan involved. Just goes to show how big of a cash cow Pak vs Ind is and boards would rather visit Pakistan than take that financial hit.

PCB needed this to ensure that the 2025 Champions Trophy is held in Pakistan and with a successful Asia Cup, there could be pressure on BCCI to also send their team to Pakistan in 2025. With this, a potential World Cup may be in the cards for Pakistan.

This exactly. I have been pointing out that many Indian posters (and some Pakistani posters) had been gaslighting us that PCB held no power or leverage in this situation. That was obviously **, since the one Pakistan vs India game generates by far the most revenue for ICC. Good on PCB for making use of that leverage.

 

[Major]

Eh? This is a negotiation. Pakistan can have that option on the table but if an acceptable outcome is reached then the PCB need to show that they are capable of being reasonable.

I think Sethi has done well here. I'm surprised the BCCI have been flexible as well, they could easily have called his bluff and it wouldn't really have impacted them.

wait what?

So if Sri lanka, Bangladesh and Afg tomr say taht we will play at netural venues but pay for all travelling cost and not play inside Pakistan, that will come as a reasonable outcome?

Play in Pakistan or go home. Pakistan should not compromise. There is no valid reason for a 3rd world coutnry team to come to Pakistan. When first world countries dont have issue, India has no standing ground.

 

[daytrader]

Glad most of the tournament is taking place in Pakistan. Relationship with India will always be a work in progress, no point of hampering our cricket. For us fans that want to watch, some cricket with India is better than no cricket at all.

 

[shujaatraza]

So the final will be on neutral venue then because India might qualify?

 

[gazza619]

As per a media source:

The 2023 Asia Cup is likely to be played in Pakistan with another overseas venue to host India games.

Both BCCI and PCB, after an initial standoff, are moving swiftly towards brokering a resolution which could have both teams playing their tournament matches against each other outside Pakistan.

The overseas venue is not confirmed but the UAE, Oman, Sri Lanka and even England are potential contenders to host five matches including at least two India-Pakistan contests.

Would be great if can they play in Edgbaston.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

wait what?

So if Sri lanka, Bangladesh and Afg tomr say taht we will play at netural venues but pay for all travelling cost and not play inside Pakistan, that will come as a reasonable outcome?

Play in Pakistan or go home. Pakistan should not compromise. There is no valid reason for a 3rd world coutnry team to come to Pakistan. When first world countries dont have issue, India has no standing ground.

I agree. The Asia Cup shows the hypocrisy of the BCCI. BCCI should either play Pakistan or make a firm stand saying they won't play in the Asia Cup played in Pakistan no matter what.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India's matches at this year's Asia Cup will be played at a neutral venue with England one of the places being considered to host the matches <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AsiaCup2023?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AsiaCup2023</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1639193436992720898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2023</a></blockquote>
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[Babeikh]

England seems a bit unworkable to me. Surely Sri Lanka makes the most logical sense.

Though I like the idea of having the entire Asia Cup in England at some point!

 

[JibranAnsari]

Really? So teams will travel to england/neutral venue to play their matches against india in Asia cup?
Seems like way too much effort for a tournament. Best to play without india if other teams agree to play on pakistan.

Or better ,dont play asia cup at all.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

England seems a bit unworkable to me. Surely Sri Lanka makes the most logical sense.

Though I like the idea of having the entire Asia Cup in England at some point!

Yep, ironically that’ll get the best attendances. Even aside from India and Pakistan’s own matches, there’s enough of a Lankan, Afghan and Bengali demographic in London to get good attendances

 

[Rana]

So everyone will play a game in Pakistan, then travel to England to play India

Then come back to Pakistan to play their fixtures and then travel back to England to play India again.

What is this joke?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

So everyone will play a game in Pakistan, then travel to England to play India

Then come back to Pakistan to play their fixtures and then travel back to England to play India again.

What is this joke?

That’ll probably be 6 games in a neutral venue.

Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh I believe are in group a, so they won’t be playing India until the super 4 stage.

India will play 4 group stage games in a neutral venue. 1 Super 4 game in a neutral venue and if they make the final then another game in a neutral venue.

Since Pakistan is the host, they should absolutely decline playing in England. It eliminates any home advantage that we may have had. Better to play in Doha.

 

[MenInG]

So everyone will play a game in Pakistan, then travel to England to play India

Then come back to Pakistan to play their fixtures and then travel back to England to play India again.

What is this joke?

Imagine the jetlag! So many excuses already from everyone.

Seems totally unfeasible.

 

[gazza619]

So everyone will play a game in Pakistan, then travel to England to play India

Then come back to Pakistan to play their fixtures and then travel back to England to play India again.

What is this joke?

Best idea would be if the whole tournament is played remotely via EA Sports.

 

[gazza619]

Imagine the jetlag! So many excuses already from everyone.

Seems totally unfeasible.

Why not play the whole tournament in England

This way we dont need to worry about the expensive local security costs.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

All rumour and speculation at the moment.
But if the final were to be Pakistan vs India, where would that be held ?
I assume the BCCI would still refuse to play in,Pakistan and it would be shameful, and embarrassing, if Pakistan were to travel somewhere else to play the final of their home tournament.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

If India and Pakistan play each other in the final, it should be held in Pakistan.

We’re not dealing with ICC here, it’s ACC - a board that relies on Pak v Ind matches just to stay afloat.

All Sethi has to do is threaten to pull out of ACC for future events if India don’t travel to Pakistan.

India is obliged not to travel, likewise Pakistan has every right to pull out of acc.

Not sure why PCB keeps threatening to pull out of the WC. Wait until the CT25, if India don’t travel then they can pull out of future ICC events in India.

 

[Sher Khan]

Hosting the Asia Cup successfully in Pakistan will be a major victory for PCB

I personally don't expect that the Asia Cup will be played in Pakistan at all. But if it does, credit must go to Sethi. It seems that BCCI has softened their stance since Sethi came to power. According to recent reports, apart from India all other teams could play in Pakistan.

Secondly, even if the Asia Cup is staged in Pakistan it will be September(Election Time). I'm expecting high political activity and most likely some major PTI jalsas to be taking place around the country. All this could create a dangerous environment.

If the PCB successfully manages to host the teams despite all this, India will have no excuse for touring in the future.

 

[Savak]

That’ll probably be 6 games in a neutral venue.

Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh I believe are in group a, so they won’t be playing India until the super 4 stage.

India will play 4 group stage games in a neutral venue. 1 Super 4 game in a neutral venue and if they make the final then another game in a neutral venue.

Since Pakistan is the host, they should absolutely decline playing in England. It eliminates any home advantage that we may have had. Better to play in Doha.

England is an attractive option because of the crowds

 

[Rana]

England is an attractive option because of the crowds

Will Pakistan get 100% revenue though?

No they will not!

 

[YousafTheBeast]

England is an attractive option because of the crowds

Of course, but if Pakistan were to play India in England, then travel back same/next day, they’ll have no time to prepare for the next game which you’d think would be the day after the other groups match, whilst India get to play all their games in England.

I’d take a 2 hour flight from ME over a 7 hour flight from UK even if it means less people at the grounds.

 

[Savak]

Will Pakistan get 100% revenue though?

No they will not!

According to Geo reporters. Sethi has categorically stated and demanded that PCB will not be responsible for the Indian Cricket teams travelling, accomodation costs, increased costs of broadcasting, logistics for hosting India out of Pakistan and Pakistan should get hundred percent of the revenue and profits as if the entire tournament was being held in Pakistan. He stated that if these demands were not entertained then the PCB will consider pulling out of the Asia Cup altogether.

He has conceeded to India playing in a neutral venue in exchange for PCB getting hundred percent of the revenue, profits and not incurring the increased expenditure of India playing its games abroad. The other ACC members will likely have to adjust these costs in their share it seems.

 

[Rana]

According to Geo reporters. Sethi has categorically stated and demanded that PCB will not be responsible for the Indian Cricket teams travelling, accomodation costs, increased costs of broadcasting, logistics for hosting India out of Pakistan and Pakistan should get hundred percent of the revenue and profits as if the entire tournament was being held in Pakistan. He stated that if these demands were not entertained then the PCB will consider pulling out of the Asia Cup altogether.

He has conceeded to India playing in a neutral venue in exchange for PCB getting hundred percent of the revenue, profits and not incurring the increased expenditure of India playing its games abroad. The other ACC members will likely have to adjust these costs in their share it seems.

Yeah we will know about Sethi’s success at getting BCCI to honour agreements

None of this as you say will happen

 

[Mas-LFC]

Asia cup should be held in England and Wales. 3 grounds would be enough. Oval the main one with the final being there, Birmingham and Cardiff.

 

[ArabKnight]

Would be great if can they play in Edgbaston.

It’s a Asia Cup. Not a Europe Cup.

That match ain’t coming to Edgbaston my guy. Coffer up the big bucks and buy a ticket to Dubai like a big boy.

 

[Devadwal]

The proposal to play India games in Asia Cup 2023 at a neutral venue has been proposed by the PCB themselves

 

[Rajdeep]

All rumour and speculation at the moment.
But if the final were to be Pakistan vs India, where would that be held ?
I assume the BCCI would still refuse to play in,Pakistan and it would be shameful, and embarrassing, if Pakistan were to travel somewhere else to play the final of their home tournament.

Remember Asia cup 2018 host was India but the tournament was played in UAE. BCCI didn't got embarrassed.

2022 Asia cup host were Srilanka but the tournament was played in UAE. SLCB didn't got embarrassed.

Looks like PCB gets embarrassed in every small thing when there is absolutely nothing sinister about hosting a tournament in neutral venue. Home board gets to keep all profits and hosting rights anyway.

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

Remember Asia cup 2018 host was India but the tournament was played in UAE. BCCI didn't got embarrassed.

2022 Asia cup host were Srilanka but the tournament was played in UAE. SLCB didn't got embarrassed.

Looks like PCB gets embarrassed in every small thing when there is absolutely nothing sinister about hosting a tournament in neutral venue. Home board gets to keep all profits and hosting rights anyway.

PCB doesn't get embarrassed when its set up change every year...There's no guarantee that if NAJAM SETHI would remain PCB Chairman till Asia cup or WC 2023 if elections are held and Imran Khan appoints RAMBO after winning the election.

 

[light]

Man so much drama. From now on, just let Bangladesh host it. Each time they hosted it, lot of crowds, and the tournament was hosted quite well. All this political drama starts getting annoying and draining at some point, seriously.

 

[nextover666666]

In terms of Travelling it makes no sense to have (India games) and final in England in the event India make it.

England is a great place for Asia cup, but would make sense if they were hosting the tourney all on its own.

With Pakistan as host, the other country for (India games) should be a close destination to Pakistan ( Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Oman, UAE, Qatar)

Can you Imagine Asia Cup is like this with Host Pakistan and England if they have the same format as previous years.

Group A: India, Pakistan, Hong Kong (as an example)
Group B: Afghan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh (all of their group games can be in Pakistan)

Game 1: India vs Pakistan (in England)
Game 2: Pakistan vs Hong Kong (in Pakistan)
Game3: India vs Hong Kong (In England)

Than you have super 4s, in the event India advances along with Pakistan it would look like this (from group B i will say Afghanistan and Sri Lanka advance just for the sake of example)

Super 4 stage

Game 1: India vs Pakistan (in England)
Game 2: Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (in Pakistan)
Game 3: Pakistan vs Afghanistan ( in Pakistan)
Game 4: Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (in Pakistan)
Game 5: India vs Afghanistan (in England)
Game 6: India vs Sri Lanka (in England)

Now if India made the finals and Pakistan as well, In Pakistan case they would have to travel to England.
If India and one of Afghanistan or Sri Lanka make finals, all three teams would be in England already, with scenario I provided.

If Pakistan make final, and one of Afghanistan or Sri Lanka make it, than one of those teams would have to travel back to Pakistan for the final.

Imagine Sri Lanka and Afghan are in final and their both in England, they would both have to travel to Pakistan since the understanding is Final would be played in England ( or any other country) if India make the finals.

At the end of the day its a lot of travelling, and its not T20 format, its ODI, which means recovery time can take longer for players from one match to another.

Granted even if we have India matches in Asia or Middle East, it is still travelling, but at least its closer and less travel time.

Lets Hope ACC makes the co-host or host of India games, a location close by.

I would love to say an Asia Cup in England (as full host) one day, I think turn out would be great.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

England is a great place for Asia cup

Lets just read this sentence again, and then I'll ask;

Is England in Asia?

 

[Savak]

No harm in hosting a few games in England. Just because it's the Asia Cup doesn't mean you restrict yourself just to Asian countries.

 

[Firebat]

It's silly to have an entire tournament in Pakistan then a few select matches in completely different conditions that's an 8 hour flight away. Will all India games be in one block, or will teams have to keep flying 8 hours back and forth?

In fact it just gives a clear advantage to India, they never have to travel once.

 

[Energy]

Stupid idea to have games in England. Doesn't make any sense. India games should take place in UAE. 2 hrs flight away.

 

[sweep_shot]

If they pick neutral venue, it should be UAE or Bangladesh (my pick is UAE).

Not England.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

No harm in hosting a few games in England. Just because it's the Asia Cup doesn't mean you restrict yourself just to Asian countries.

Its called the Asia Cup. Not the Euro-Asia Cup or Champions Trophy. The Asia Cup only involves Teams from Asia Continent, not Europe.

But in another view, the fact that they are looking to host Asia Cup matches in England, shows firstly that this Asia Cup is such a waste of time, and secondly shows the horrendous state of cricket.

 

[nextover666666]

Lets just read this sentence again, and then I'll ask;

Is England in Asia?

Dont try to be funny or smart obivously not but one cannot deny, that because of big south asian population, the asia cup would be good to host their in terms of crowd support.

By saying England is a great place to host asia cup it simply means due to the support/ turn out you would get their.

If you read the full post I am not for having England as a co-host as it makes no sense to have back and fourth travel from Pakistan to England

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Poor stuff by Sethi.

If India wants to play their games at a neutral venue then it must absorb all the costs of hosting BOTH teams at a neutral venue. Their board supposedly has billion upon billions of surplus cash. It should be no problem for them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So PCB should get 100 percent of revenue. What are the other boards participating for? They get nothing?

On top of that PCB won't pay for hosting India at a neutral venue?

Are the other boards and ACC going to accept this?

 

[HitWicket]

Poor stuff by Sethi.

If India wants to play their games at a neutral venue then it must absorb all the costs of hosting BOTH teams at a neutral venue. Their board supposedly has billion upon billions of surplus cash. It should be no problem for them.

Ironically playing in England would probably produce significantly more profits given the value of ticket and hospitality sales.

 

[Badboy_1]

should have full Asia cup in England

 

[happydavy]

I suggest that they let indian team also carry it's own pitches for the matches, as that would make atleast one less excuse when our captain Rohitji, our vice kaptaan KLRahulji, our best batsman Kohliji and our chief cheerleaders Gavaskarji and Bhogleji come back once again without a trophy.

 

[Rajdeep]

So PCB should get 100 percent of revenue. What are the other boards participating for? They get nothing?

On top of that PCB won't pay for hosting India at a neutral venue?

Are the other boards and ACC going to accept this?

Think the wise decision from BCCI to opt out from this tournament.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Ironically playing in England would probably produce significantly more profits given the value of ticket and hospitality sales.

Exactly. And PCB will take 100% of that profit after paying both teams with their current payout match fee for playing the game

 

[cricketjoshila]

Think the wise decision from BCCI to opt out from this tournament.

Or host the cup in India and offer to give the entire revenue to other teams after deducting cost.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

So PCB should get 100 percent of revenue.

Yes, that's the way it should be.

What are the other boards participating for? They get nothing?

Every board should get what's currently agreed upon as their payout fee.

On top of that PCB won't pay for hosting India at a neutral venue?

No, PCB should not.
PCB should pay the hosting cost of any team that plays IN Pakistan. It's only logical and fair play.

Are the other boards and ACC going to accept this?

Yes, they should.
And then other boards should also have a choice that if ANY board wants to play at another venue then that board should pay ALL the costs of hosting BOTH teams at the other venue. It's simple and logical.


India first, should agree with the above terms, and then do the same to Pakistan for 2023.
"Play in India or else, pay all the costs of hosting the game at a neutral venue, and you will get your match participation fee, while BCCI will take rest of the profits".

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So PCB should get 100 percent of revenue. What are the other boards participating for? They get nothing?

On top of that PCB won't pay for hosting India at a neutral venue?

Are the other boards and ACC going to accept this?

Why should PCB pay for India here?

They are saying come, the rest are coming and others have came previously.

Indians are saying no we don't want to.

Why should Pakistan be forced to pay in that scenario?

Forget your usual might is right and money is king nonsense for a second.

If Pakistan refuse to travel to India for the world cup do you think the Indians should pay for our matches to be played at a neutral venue?

 

[Rajdeep]

Imagine the tournament being hosted in Pak and Eng, I think logistic will be as following:

Teams that are in other group (presumably SL, Afg & BD) would play their group games in Pakistan. No problem.

India meanwhile would be chillaxing in some London hotel and Pak & HongKong would play their game in Pakistan and then hop onto the plane to play India in England.

Since Hong Kong won't qualify to super 4, they will go back home straight from England.

Pak need to fly back to play SL and BD in super 4. India would once again chillax in London and wait for Pak along with SL and BD to come to England to play them.

Group Games
BD vs SL (Karachi)
Pak vs HK (Karachi)
SL vs AFG (Lahore)
Afg vs BD (Lahore)

Then Pak and HK flies to England

Ind vs Pak (London)
Ind vs HK (London)

HK flies back home and Pak flies back to Pak

Super 4
SL vs Pak (Karachi)
BD vs SL (Lahore)
Pak vs BD (Lahore)

Then Pak, SL, BD flies to England

Ind vs Pak (London)
BD vs Ind (London)
Ind vs SL (London)

If India qualifies to final, then final will be in London.

If India does not qualify to finals, both the finalists flies back to Lahore to play the finals.

If we assume the above logistic is correct which looks most realistic, Pakistan will need to endure the most travelling.

What was Najam Sethi thinking?

 

[hitthestump]

Or host the cup in India and offer to give the entire revenue to other teams after deducting cost.

Lol. At least try and keep the mask on for a little while.

A vindictive and petty move like this is no doubt what extremist Indians at home are squealing into their keyboards for.

 

[Kianig89]

Why not name the cup as London LondonAsia Cup

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Imagine the tournament being hosted in Pak and Eng, I think logistic will be as following:

Teams that are in other group (presumably SL, Afg & BD) would play their group games in Pakistan. No problem.

India meanwhile would be chillaxing in some London hotel and Pak & HongKong would play their game in Pakistan and then hop onto the plane to play India in England.

Since Hong Kong won't qualify to super 4, they will go back home straight from England.

Pak need to fly back to play SL and BD in super 4. India would once again chillax in London and wait for Pak along with SL and BD to come to England to play them.

Group Games
BD vs SL (Karachi)
Pak vs HK (Karachi)
SL vs AFG (Lahore)
Afg vs BD (Lahore)

Then Pak and HK flies to England

Ind vs Pak (London)
Ind vs HK (London)

HK flies back home and Pak flies back to Pak

Super 4
SL vs Pak (Karachi)
BD vs SL (Lahore)
Pak vs BD (Lahore)

Then Pak, SL, BD flies to England

Ind vs Pak (London)
BD vs Ind (London)
Ind vs SL (London)

If India qualifies to final, then final will be in London.

If India does not qualify to finals, both the finalists flies back to Lahore to play the finals.

If we assume the above logistic is correct which looks most realistic, Pakistan will need to endure the most travelling.

What was Najam Sethi thinking?

ALL Good.
As long as India is paying ALL the costs of hosting and playing ALL Asia cup games played in England. And ALL profit goes to PCB less the match fee paid to both teams.

“Chillaxing in England” doesn’t come free.

 

[Kroll]

The simple solution was to boot India out. Okay, revenue will be lost but can't continue to kowtow to the demands of the Indians on a continuous basis.

ICC need to grow a pair for once and do something worthwhile. They need to show why they're even a cricketing governing body.

 

[Rajdeep]

ALL Good.
As long as India is paying ALL the costs of hosting and playing ALL Asia cup games played in England. And ALL profit goes to PCB less the match fee paid to both teams.

“Chillaxing in England” doesn’t come free.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking. Why would India pay hosting cost when the Asia cup hosts is PCB?

If Najam Sethi agreed to split venue tournament, PCB being the host board need to take care of the logistics i.e to book hotels, flights, security, ground charges etc. In return they get to keep the profit of the tournament. That is the meaning of host board. Just like how BCCI & SLCB organized everything in UAE in 2018 & 2022 editions of Asia cup.

You are living in lala land in thinking BCCI will book hotels, flights, grounds etc in England but PCB get to keep the profit.

 

[U$ofA]

The simple solution was to boot India out. Okay, revenue will be lost but can't continue to kowtow to the demands of the Indians on a continuous basis.

ICC need to grow a pair for once and do something worthwhile. They need to show why they're even a cricketing governing body.

Firstly, I don't think ICC has anything to do with Asia Cup. That would be the ACC.
Secondly, if you are expecting ICC to do anything then you are going to be waiting forever.

Now, if being greedy, selfish and grabbing $$$ with both hands is the need, then ICC will be at the front.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking. Why would India pay hosting cost when the Asia cup hosts is PCB?

If Najam Sethi agreed to split venue tournament, PCB being the host board need to take care of the logistics i.e to book hotels, flights, security, ground charges etc. In return they get to keep the profit of the tournament. That is the meaning of host board. Just like how BCCI & SLCB organized everything in UAE in 2018 & 2022 editions of Asia cup.

You are living in lala land in thinking BCCI will book hotels, flights, grounds etc in England but PCB get to keep the profit.

I think this point has been explained to you multiple times.

BCCI and SLCB had to move the tournament out of their countries because they couldn't guarantee the safety of the participants. It was a unanimous decision.

Here Pakistan is inviting all to come, most are agreeing but India isn't.

There is no comparison between the two scenarios no matter how much you jump and down to make one.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why should PCB pay for India here?

They are saying come, the rest are coming and others have came previously.

Indians are saying no we don't want to.

Why should Pakistan be forced to pay in that scenario?

Forget your usual might is right and money is king nonsense for a second.

If Pakistan refuse to travel to India for the world cup do you think the Indians should pay for our matches to be played at a neutral venue?

So PCB will keep all the revenue. No other board gets a share of the revenue. On top of that they will not pay for hosting India. Right?

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think this point has been explained to you multiple times.

BCCI and SLCB had to move the tournament out of their countries because they couldn't guarantee the safety of the participants. It was a unanimous decision.

Here Pakistan is inviting all to come, most are agreeing but India isn't.

There is no comparison between the two scenarios no matter how much you jump and down to make one.

Cricket team was attacked in Pakistan. Not India or SL. So saying that safety was not guaranteed in India or Sri Lanka but is guaranteed in Pakistan is a laughable thing.

Indian government didn't want to host pakistani team in India and Lanka was going through a economic strife hence the shift.

India doesn't think its safe to travel to Pakistan. Hence they are not going.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Cricket team was attacked in Pakistan. Not India or SL. So saying that safety was not guaranteed in India or Sri Lanka but is guaranteed in Pakistan is a laughable thing.

Indian government didn't want to host pakistani team in India and Lanka was going through a economic strife hence the shift.

India doesn't think its safe to travel to Pakistan. Hence they are not going.

It doesn't matter what you find laughable, the truth is the truth.

India government was unable to host the tournament and Sri Lanka was unable to host the tournament. Because of their inability to host the teams - every team not just one team throwing tantrums the tournament was shifted.

Here Pakistan is able to host the tournament, all of the tournament attendees are happy to attend Pakistan apart from one.

In no way are these scenarios the same.

Sri Lankan attacks are as relevant to the thread as Indians pelting fans and burning down stadiums in the past.

Pakistan has done a great thing as hosts and in the interests of the tournament to allow India to play wherever it likes. The statesmanship of the PCB ( if successful) should be applauded.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Can India be the neutral venue? Maybe hold it in the biggest stadium in the world. Off course gate money and other revenue can go straight to PCB’s pocket as they were originally scheduled to host the tournament.

Well, if PCB is smart they can play this card.

But they most likely do what posters here are suggesting.

[MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla here is your post earlier in the thread where you replied to Angrez Pakistani and suggested that the "smart" thing for the PCB would be to play India at a neutral venue and keep the money.

Now you are saying its wrong for them to do

 

[Colorblind Genius]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking. Why would India pay hosting cost when the Asia cup hosts is PCB?

If Najam Sethi agreed to split venue tournament, PCB being the host board need to take care of the logistics i.e to book hotels, flights, security, ground charges etc. In return they get to keep the profit of the tournament. That is the meaning of host board. Just like how BCCI & SLCB organized everything in UAE in 2018 & 2022 editions of Asia cup.

You are living in lala land in thinking BCCI will book hotels, flights, grounds etc in England but PCB get to keep the profit.

Yep, I have no idea.
But sorry, this is the only way it should happen.

Otherwise India can opt out and stay home.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yep, I have no idea.
But sorry, this is the only way it should happen.

Otherwise India can opt out and stay home.

What could happen or should happen, that aside but I am just telling as it is. If Najam Sethi agreed to split venue tournament and since PCB is the host, they will bear expenses. PCB could have stick to the stance of organizing the entire tournament in Pakistan, with or without India. But since they agreed for split venue, they would pay the expense.

Basically PCB will pay for Indian team to chillax in London and Pak to do all the air miles

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=2099]Cricket[/MENTION]joshilla here is your post earlier in the thread where you replied to Angrez Pakistani and suggested that the "smart" thing for the PCB would be to play India at a neutral venue and keep the money.

Now you are saying its wrong for them to do

They canNot keep all the revenue and not pay for hosting India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It doesn't matter what you find laughable, the truth is the truth.

India government was unable to host the tournament and Sri Lanka was unable to host the tournament. Because of their inability to host the teams - every team not just one team throwing tantrums the tournament was shifted.

Here Pakistan is able to host the tournament, all of the tournament attendees are happy to attend Pakistan apart from one.

In no way are these scenarios the same.

Sri Lankan attacks are as relevant to the thread as Indians pelting fans and burning down stadiums in the past.

Pakistan has done a great thing as hosts and in the interests of the tournament to allow India to play wherever it likes. The statesmanship of the PCB ( if successful) should be applauded.

Terrorist attack on a team with bullets and ammunition is unheard of. It happened only in Pakistan.

ACC can go ahead and play without Indian team. But if PCB wants to host the tournament with India they will have to pay for the neutral venue and share revenue as per ACC rules.

 

[Savak]

Terrorist attack on a team with bullets and ammunition is unheard of. It happened only in Pakistan.

ACC can go ahead and play without Indian team. But if PCB wants to host the tournament with India they will have to pay for the neutral venue and share revenue as per ACC rules.

This might be your expressed wish but Najam Sethi has clearly stated that the PCB must get the revenue it is entitled to as if the PCB was hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan and that the costs of India playing on a nuetral venue was not PCB's headache and that the ACC will have to bear them. If these terms and conditions are not accepted then the PCB will pull out of the Asia Cup and the Asia Cup is free to be held without the 3 Indo Pak contests the broadcasters want.

The ACC is now working out the itenary and formalities.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Terrorist attack on a team with bullets and ammunition is unheard of. It happened only in Pakistan.

ACC can go ahead and play without Indian team. But if PCB wants to host the tournament with India they will have to pay for the neutral venue and share revenue as per ACC rules.

The team that was the victim of the terrorist attack and all other cricket nations have agreed to play. That is now in the past.

@bolded I think you should address this to Jay Shah as it seems BCCI has agreed to PCB's very reasonable demands.

 

[U$ofA]

The team that was the victim of the terrorist attack and all other cricket nations have agreed to play. That is now in the past.

@bolded I think you should address this to Jay Shah as it seems BCCI has agreed to PCB's very reasonable demands.

What India is currently doing can be said of a few other teams in the past. The exact scenario that you are describing. There was also a time when India toured but few other nations did not. Blatantly refused for decades.

How is BCCI doing anything different than what say CA did for decades?

 

[Arabian_Tiger]

What India is currently doing can be said of a few other teams in the past. The exact scenario that you are describing. There was also a time when India toured but few other nations did not. Blatantly refused for decades.

How is BCCI doing anything different than what say CA did for decades?

Ya, India toured PAK in 2004, 2006 for bilateral series and in 2008 for ASIA CUP when AUS, NZ didn't tour at all till 2022-23.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The team that was the victim of the terrorist attack and all other cricket nations have agreed to play. That is now in the past.

@bolded I think you should address this to Jay Shah as it seems BCCI has agreed to PCB's very reasonable demands.

I don't know who told you that BCCI has agreed to PCBs demands but this is what indian media have to say quoting BCCI sources.


As far as Pakistan playing its Asia Cup games in Pakistan is concerned, the budget for the tournament is passed by the Asian Cricket Council. If ACC says that it's not a commercially viable proposition to hold Asia Cup in two countries, how can Pakistan play its games at home. ACC, for all you know, might not pass the budget," a board source said.


https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/no-...-world-cup-games-in-bangladesh-report-3903985