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Which batsmen scored most runs against the greatest bowlers ever?

Harsh Thakor

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Viv Richards,Bradman,Tendulkar,Lara or Sobers are probably the greatest of all batsmen dominating opposition to a pinnacle never reached.Others like Pollock,Gavaskar,Hutton ,Hammond ,Wekes etc were morally in their club but maybe a whisker below.

However not all the greatest batsmen were neccesarily the most prolific against the greatest bowlers .Bradman did not face speedsters bowling at around 150 k.ph or 95m.p.h. or great spinners.Viv did not have to face the pace quartet of his own team.Lara and Sachin got many opportunities to s core against fast-medium instead of express pace Sobers was very prolific versus Trueman but scored quite a lot of his big scores versus India and Pakistan and averaged under 50 in Australia.

The 3 I pick for being most prolific against the best bowlers are Alan Border,Greg Chappel and Sunil Gavaskar.

Chappell morally scored 7 centuries against West Indies attack at his best including 621 runs at an average of 69 with 3 centuries in 5 supertests in 1979 in West Indies.Ke also scored a 174 and 246 v a Rest of the World attack including Imran and Roberts in 1977.In 1975-76 he amassed 702 runs at 117 including an unbeaten 183 v West Indies.He also scored 2 double centuries facing Imran at Lahore in 1980 and Brisbane in 1981-82.Facing the great Richard Hadlee Chappell scored 247 n.o and 133 n.o in 1974 and an unbeaten 176 in 1982.He also scored a double century facing Kapil Dev at Sydney in 1980-81.Overall no batsmen was more prolific against a full strength Calypso attack.

Border averaged 74.21 in West Indies in 1984 with match-saving epic knocks at Trinidad and averaged over 67 in 1981-82 in the Frank Worrell trophy.He mastered a spin attack in Pakistan in 1980 averaging 131.22,including 2 150's at Lahore.Border was a n epitome of consistency in England plundering runs against Botham,Wilis etc in 1981 and 1985 when he averaged 0ver 59 and 66 respectively.At home and away he was prolific against Kapil Dev and Indian spinners.To top it all he also scored a lot of runs against the great Sir Richard Hadlee.Above al Border had to carry the mantle of a weak batting side .Thus a lot of his runs were scored against great bowlers like .
Marshall,Garner,Holding,Hadlee and Botham.

Gavaskar opened the innings which was all the more remarkable .He has to his credit a heroic 221 facing Botham and Wilis in 1979 and aggregating 542 runs at 77.42 in the series.He also scored 4 centuries facing Imran at his fastest in 1978-79 and best in 1983-83.He averaged over 89 in Pakistan in 1978-79.Gavaskar also scored 5 centuries against top quality West Indies bowlers and a 90 at Ahmedabad .He scored his centuries in West Indies in 1975-76 facing Holding and Roberts and scored his unbeaten 147 at Georgetown,121 at Delhi and unbeaten 236 at Madras against West Indies attack at full strength. He also score centuries facing Hadlee in 1975-76 and 3 centuries facing Jeff Thomson in 1978 in Australia.Ironically he was never successful facing Dennis Lillee.Considering he recived litte support it is remarkable that he wa s prolific against the likes of Roberts,Holding,Marshall,Imran ,Hadlee and spinners like Abdul Qadir and Iqbal Qasim or even Derek Underwood.

My final ranking in terms of runs scored against quality bowling would be Border at no1,Greg Chappell at no2 and Gavaskar at no 3.Even if he was best of the 3 Gavaskar had the opportunity of facing the lesser West Indies and Australian bowling attacks in 1977-78.1978-79 and was not tested in Wsc cricket supertests like Chappell.Sunny also averages around 43 against the top West Indies pace attack and the performances of Greg and Border were better against the best West Indies pace attacks if you asess records in 1979 and 1984.Chappell did not prove himself as much as Border in England but dominated the like sof Botham in 1979-80 .His outstanding agregate of 1416 runs in Wsc Supertests against top quality attacks may be give him the edge over Gavaskar in rankings in terms of runs scored against best quality attacks.
 
This is a tough one but purely on anecdotal evidence, I would say Viv Richards must have scored well against top bowlers in his time.
 
I think it is a tie between Viv Richards and Donald Bradman.

Nobody was as dominating and as bold as these two.
 
I think it is a tie between Viv Richards and Donald Bradman.

Nobody was as dominating and as bold as these two.

No disrespect but Viv Richards didn't face his own bowlers who were the best in that time as far as Bradman is concerned apart from Harold Larwood I don't think he faced any genuine fast bowler.
 
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No disrespect but Viv Richards didn't face his own bowlers who were the best in that time as far as Bradman is concerned apart from Harold Larwood I don't think he faced any genuine fast bowler.

Absolutely in agreement .just what I wrote.
 
Has to be Allan Border or Greg Chappell.

Viv Richards had the luxury of never facing his own bowlers in an interanational match. And from what i read he wasn't really great aginst them in domestic matches.

Gavaskar was atrocious against Lillee, Hadlee and Marshall whenever he faced them away from home. I think a 140* odd against Marshall in a rain effected draw is all he has to show against them. Otherwise he failed in almost every single innings.
 
Tendulkar.

Akram
Waqar
Ambrose
Warne
Murali
Akhtar
Lee
McGrath
Donald
Saqlain
Walsh
Bond
Streak
Steyn

I mean....yeah...
 
Sunil Gavaskar because of his record against the West Indies
Viv Richards because he imposed himself on opposition fast bowlers -- (but of course, he did never face in Test cricket the most potent attack of his time, which was the West Indian attack)

Both played in the pre-helmet era which makes a huge difference
 
These things are really tough to say because there are so many factors that comes into picture which will all lead to no specific answers.

However, what I can say is scoring runs is one point but dominating bowling is another and I have seen very few players who have gone on to dominate the best bowling attacks and not just accumulated runs. Some of those names will be Viv Richards, Sachin, Lara and among newer ones, Kevin Pietersen.
 
Tendulkar.

Akram
Waqar
Ambrose
Warne
Murali
Akhtar
Lee
McGrath
Donald
Saqlain
Walsh
Bond
Streak
Steyn

I mean....yeah...

Viv hundreds v

Lillee
Imran
Hadlee
Kapil Dev
Thomson
Akram
Botham
Willis
Snow
Underwood
Bedi
Chandrasekhar
Prasanna
Procter
McDermott
Hughes
Alderman
Donald
Danny Morrison
Holding
Marshall
Roberts
Garner
Croft
Ambrose
Walsh
Bishop
Patterson
Clarke
Daniel
Tony Gray
Gibbs
Sobers
Garth le Roux
Clive Rice
Peter Lever
Old
Fraser
Hendricks
Somachandra de Silva
VB John
Ashantha de Mel
Qadir
Iqbal Qasim
Sarfaraz Nawaz
Dilip Doshi
Lawson
Hughes
Gilmour
Pascoe
Hogg
Walker
Mallett
Rackemann
Dodemaide
Ezra Moseley

Viv also averages 86 v Waqar Younis. This in the 2 odis and 1 first-class match he faced him.

Gavaskar scored no hundred v Lillee, in 21 innings in all forms of cricket. He has made 3 fifties in those 21 innings.

Tendulkar has only made one hundred against Walsh in the 1994/95 Nagpur test. He has made no hundreds against Ambrose, Marshall, Patterson, or Bishop.

Tendulkar faced Ambrose, Bishop and Walsh in odi, test and first-class cricket.
He faced Marshall in odis and first-class cricket but not in many matches.
He faced Patterson in odi cricket.

Tendulkar began making a few hundreds after 2000, when all of these West Indian bowlers had retired.
 
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