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Which board will win the BCCI vs PCB MoU case?

Which Board will win the BCCI v PCB MoU case?

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Think this is building up to be another India v Pakistan special.

So let's see your votes.
 
70-30 chance of BCCI getting a favorable ruling.

I'd have given it a 90-10 chance but nervous statements from BCCI officials since last couple of days tells me not everything is alright for them.

The actual wording in MoU, how detailed it is, and how past MoUs were drafted would be key.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if BCCI loose this one deliberately... It's a win win situation for BCCI, they will make more money from Pak vs India games.
 
India will win the case.

Pakistan will be fined $100 million dollars. ICC will force Pakistan to forfeit 5 ODIs, 3 T20is, and 3 Tests. PCB officials will be banned from holding office. Pakistan will be no longer be ICC Full Member.
 
I give it a 50 50 chance, considering Pakistan has hired Clifford Chance.

But regardless of the decision, Pakistan needs to do deep introspection because apparently series vs India seems to be its way to earn the millions of dollars.

We really need to stop being dependent on Indian tours for our winnings.
 
If we lose the case I hope we stop begging to play India in bilaterals.
 
preponderance of opinion dictating India will win!

Need a Takra type show on TV

Crowds shouting jeetay ga bhai jeetay ga....
 
MenInG said:
preponderance of opinion dictating India will win!

Need a Takra type show on TV

Crowds shouting jeetay ga bhai jeetay ga....
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Three day test is too boring. Tell them to convert it into a t20 or The Hundred. Will be fun
 
seems overwhelmingly in favour of BCCI
 
MenInG said:
preponderance of opinion dictating India will win!

Need a Takra type show on TV

Crowds shouting jeetay ga bhai jeetay ga....
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PCB's claim is 70 million USD. If they are awarded, let's say 25 million, would it count as a loss or a win for them?
 
AMSS said:
PCB's claim is 70 million USD. If they are awarded, let's say 25 million, would it count as a loss or a win for them?
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Loss, but boy would it be fun to expose BCCI as cheats
 
AMSS said:
PCB's claim is 70 million USD. If they are awarded, let's say 25 million, would it count as a loss or a win for them?
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Think getting any money is a win for PCB.
 
Think a moral victory is a bare minimum which Pcb should be happy with
 
I am a strong advocate of Justice and I feel that BCCI will hold a strong defence citing force majeure as their reason of not fulfilling the MOU, but they basically shoot themselves in the foot by then convincing PCB to play them in ICC events. Pakistan threatened to pull out of the T20 world cup in India and we all know how BCCI were not so comfortable with this proposition. Not sure if 'force majeure' goes out for a walk on these occasions?
 
Whoever wins. if bcci don’t want to play with pcb they have full right to it. But the same decision should apply to every type of cricket either a bilateral or icc tournament. If any knockout game happens to be played in any tournament icc should immediately change the opponents. If its a final then no final should be played. The trophy should be auctioned to pay the tv rights sold previously for “the final”
 
The odds are heavily in favour of Bcci even if they are in the wrong. Irrespective of the case PCB will not win! The Indians will not have it, plenty of options for them to play dirty.
 
There is only 1 winner in this case - PCB officials who used emotions of Pakistani fans to put heavy budget for the case and happily pocketed a portion of that for their benefits.
 
This case was never about winning against BCCI for PCB. Only Pakistani fans believe that there is some chance because PCB had said so. PCB officials knew there isn't anything in the case and sole purpose of the entire drama was to siphon off money from PCB coffer.
 
The compensation claim will be taken out from India ICC funds and diverted to the PCB. And the BCCI will be directed to pay for the lawyers as well
 
In all honesty PCB shot itself in the foot and only has itself to blame because they decided to go full stupid when they decided to ban their players from participating in IPL 2 (2009) and then they tried to get the 2011 WC shifted away from India when they lost the right to host their portion of the WC following the Lahore gun attack.

I believe this all happened under Ijaz Butt, so the level of incompetence doesn't surprise me.

As for this case it is embarrassing to see us beg BCCI for matches and money. The MoU is not legally binding which reinforces the point regarding the levels of incompetence within the PCB hierarchy when they had signed this agreement. They got played, just face it and move on rather than wasting millions on a court case in which they're never gonna win.
 
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If at all PCB wins any money from this case, that will be the last money they get from any Ind-Pak bilateral matches for a long time to come. We can kiss good bye to Ind-Pak bilaterals.
 
Whatever the outcome, this marks the end of India-Pak bilaterals for at least a decade. BCCI's hostility could also impact player participation in the PSL. It is all to lose for the PCB.
 
Bilateral matches between India and Pak will die out completely because of this. India also seems to be moving away from Pak as a nation. Pakistan should also try to forget about India, cricket or politics.
 
AlizeeFan said:
This case was never about winning against BCCI for PCB. Only Pakistani fans believe that there is some chance because PCB had said so. PCB officials knew there isn't anything in the case and sole purpose of the entire drama was to siphon off money from PCB coffer.
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What?

PCB were well in its right to use there lawyers here

laymans and nobodies shouldnt even make analysis on a court case.

And besides, winning the case would result in the alwyers getting their fees back from bcci.

Guys, this isnt about winning or losing. PCB were well in its rights to make a case of this, if they haven't done that then fans would had bashed the chairman.
 
Major said:
What?

PCB were well in its right to use there lawyers here

laymans and nobodies shouldnt even make analysis on a court case.

And besides, winning the case would result in the alwyers getting their fees back from bcci.

Guys, this isnt about winning or losing. PCB were well in its rights to make a case of this, if they haven't done that then fans would had bashed the chairman.
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You missed the point. Any PCB official with background knowledge would have realized that there isn't much in case.

They met to decide next course of action. Some smart PCB official realized that irrespective of the outcome, it's going to be win win scenario for them as they can allocate budget say x and use 70% of that for case and 30% goes to their own pocket.

They get public support and their image improves, and if by some miracle if they win the case, it will be icing the cake.

But most likely scenario of loss would still be huge profit for those officials. It was a chance for them make max profit as they could allocate high budget without questions being raised. Why would they miss such golden opportunity?

Public approved scam with emotional support and license to steal as much as you can. There can't be any scenario better than this one and PCB officials have grabbed it with both hands.

It was never about winning or losing.
 
Pakistan's current chairman did not even think Pakistan had a case here. So no, Pakistan has no chance in this.
 
BCCI looks nervous and looks like a loss on the cards. Hence last minute rush and full throttle is going on. If they win, they gain nothing, but if they lose, they lose a lot- Externally, Internally, Politically etc
 
Najam Sethi is a good speaker so good opening stand from Pakistan but can India chase this target down?
 
World cricket can't afford to loose Pakistan, because of number of eyeballs it brings
World cricket is dependent on BCCI.

Hoping to see some reconciliatory and negotiable things behind the scene, to come up as a decision.
 
jashan83 said:
BCCI looks nervous and looks like a loss on the cards. Hence last minute rush and full throttle is going on. If they win, they gain nothing, but if they lose, they lose a lot- Externally, Internally, Politically etc
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Its all over for BCCI
With the reports coming out BCCI is all panicked... BCCI didn't took this case seriously while PCB come up with all the homework and all set to give a phainty to BCCI in all front...Thanx to COA BCCI have lost all the financial clout on World Cricket...
Tight slap on the face of BCCI by PCB...
 
Rana said:
I am a strong advocate of Justice and I feel that BCCI will hold a strong defence citing force majeure as their reason of not fulfilling the MOU, but they basically shoot themselves in the foot by then convincing PCB to play them in ICC events. Pakistan threatened to pull out of the T20 world cup in India and we all know how BCCI were not so comfortable with this proposition. Not sure if 'force majeure' goes out for a walk on these occasions?
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I don't think the BCCI does any convincing to play PCB in ICC events. This is the first I am hearing of this, if it's true. I think it's the ICC that sets the event up and invites boards to participate. The boards merely show up. No convincing from any party except perhaps the ICC.
 
Savak said:
The compensation claim will be taken out from India ICC funds and diverted to the PCB. And the BCCI will be directed to pay for the lawyers as well
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I have read similar things, but all of them are in the forum world. What is the official statement from the ICC, besides saying that the ruling is final? Anything about enforcement of the ruling?
 
Rana said:
I am a strong advocate of Justice and I feel that BCCI will hold a strong defence citing force majeure as their reason of not fulfilling the MOU, but they basically shoot themselves in the foot by then convincing PCB to play them in ICC events. Pakistan threatened to pull out of the T20 world cup in India and we all know how BCCI were not so comfortable with this proposition. Not sure if 'force majeure' goes out for a walk on these occasions?
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I don’t think the For e Majeure argument applies unless there was a substantial change in situation after the MOU was signed.

Also, how can you apply force majeure when playing in a neutral venue?

Then you have to ask yourself, it force majeure can apply when even playing in a neutral venue, then why does it only apply for a bi lateral game and not in a tournament?

When coming to a decision the judge has to take all the surrounding circumstances in to account.
For example, the MOU itself becomes a legally binding contract when there is consideration. In this instance there was consideration, I.e Pakistan backed the Big Three formula even though they were against it initially...

I think Pakistan has an extremely strong case.
 
U ppl should get real. Has anyone in the cricketing world got the guts to even take a single penny from BCCI. It will be simply going against the Indian governnment. Indian govt. will give such a thrasing that ICC and PCB will go in coma. This all hearing is just a drama as PCB is begging for Indian money. Who knows Pakistan PM will ask for money from BCCI and Indian govt. for building the dam also and take them to ICC. PCB is just like a jealous neighbour who is incompetent and always want to get its neighbour's money. Improve ur own brand of cricket PCB other than begging for other's money. Irony is PCB hates BCCI but also want its money. Kuch sharm bachi hai ki sab Nawaz Sharif ki tarah kha pee gaye.
 
Bhoot_Pret said:
U ppl should get real. Has anyone in the cricketing world got the guts to even take a single penny from BCCI. It will be simply going against the Indian governnment. Indian govt. will give such a thrasing that ICC and PCB will go in coma. This all hearing is just a drama as PCB is begging for Indian money. Who knows Pakistan PM will ask for money from BCCI and Indian govt. for building the dam also and take them to ICC. PCB is just like a jealous neighbour who is incompetent and always want to get its neighbour's money. Improve ur own brand of cricket PCB other than begging for other's money. Irony is PCB hates BCCI but also want its money. Kuch sharm bachi hai ki sab Nawaz Sharif ki tarah kha pee gaye.
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Think you missed the gist of the case. Best to read about it
 
On one Pakistani sports program, they were already discussing that they should spend this money wisely to develop the sports infrastructure

milkmaid-and-her-pail-story.jpg

:klopp:klopp:))):))):)):))
 
navin said:
On one Pakistani sports program, they were already discussing that they should spend this money wisely to develop the sports infrastructure

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:klopp:klopp:))):))):)):))
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ROLF :)))

Jokes apart, let this case get some conclusion either way and all move on for good.

New PCB Cheif made his stand clear about all this drama from earlier management, hope common sense prevails going forward :19:
 
Not sure who is going to win this case but in my opinion the losers will always be real cricket fans. We want to see more India vs Pakistan matches.
 
Bhoot_Pret said:
U ppl should get real. Has anyone in the cricketing world got the guts to even take a single penny from BCCI. It will be simply going against the Indian governnment. Indian govt. will give such a thrasing that ICC and PCB will go in coma. This all hearing is just a drama as PCB is begging for Indian money. Who knows Pakistan PM will ask for money from BCCI and Indian govt. for building the dam also and take them to ICC. PCB is just like a jealous neighbour who is incompetent and always want to get its neighbour's money. Improve ur own brand of cricket PCB other than begging for other's money. Irony is PCB hates BCCI but also want its money. Kuch sharm bachi hai ki sab Nawaz Sharif ki tarah kha pee gaye.
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Are you trying to say that BCCI is a bully and nobody will dare to mess with them? :inti
 
USofA said:
I don't think the BCCI does any convincing to play PCB in ICC events. This is the first I am hearing of this, if it's true. I think it's the ICC that sets the event up and invites boards to participate. The boards merely show up. No convincing from any party except perhaps the ICC.
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Do your research about the India v Pakistan T20 that took place in the T20 world cup recently. Pakistan initially threatened to pull out
 
I am just being practical. There was a time when Pak was stronger than India. But since 2000 things have changed. BCCI became powerful as Indian players made it so by playing brilliant cricket all across the world and bringing a lot of money. Every team wants Indian team to tour their country. Now Pak team is no more in demand and they keep playing with minnows. Its not about bullying. Its about not giving a penny to PCB. WHY ND WHERE pakistan team regressed that it looks that only BCCI can help them with money. And PCB wants to snatch it. Had their cricket been attractive then they wont be begging for Indo pak series. Soon the election will be taking place in BCCI and then new office bearers who will be representing the old guards will run BCCI. So why should any CRICKET board or ICC will try to mess with BCCI. PAKISTAN should improve their performance to be invited to play with strong teams. That will make sure that they wont be begging for a series. Its only PCB who needs money. BCCI is happy without PCB and playing with them, they r not affected with no cricket between them as Indian team is more often playing with strong teams. BCCI isnt dependent on any other cricket board but Pak is. If other boards think bcci is bully then so be it. It has attained its powerful position with their cricket and as PCB isnt that strong then they need to improve their cricket to get money. Messing with BCCI for self inflicted things will bring disaster.
 
Rana said:
Do your research about the India v Pakistan T20 that took place in the T20 world cup recently. Pakistan initially threatened to pull out
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Perhaps I missed something. My understanding is that the ICC is in charge of running the T20 WC. They have to ensure that everything goes off without a hitch and all matches are played, if not for anything, just to get the $$ from the broadcasters.

I do not think BCCI or for that matter any other board, has any control over who the opponent is, let alone lobbying/convincing them to play. Sure, any board can refuse to play, but not sure if they would take the time to convince someone else. Given that fact that they do not control the $$. The ICC does.
 
What's the update on this ? It seems to have been forgotten by the boards and fans alike.
 
BCCI will win. The ICC won't antagoize India and even if they ruled in Pakistan favour there is no way they can enforce the ruling on India.
 
Game over for PCB. Sethi knew all along that this was a lost case without any merit but he still pushed for it
 
fitCricFan said:
Game over for PCB. Sethi knew all along that this was a lost case without any merit but he still pushed for it
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That's what people with cajones do, they take risks inspite of uncertainties. That is the main reason why he pulled off the PSL whereas his predecessors didn't even have the guts to try
 
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