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Which current Pakistani players would be picks at the IPL?

Abdullah719 said:
Wasn't Tahir picked by CSK? Perhaps I imagined it....

Also, wasn't he the highest wicket-taker (amongst spinners) last season?...
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Yup he has been picked up by CSK this season. Some people post without much research.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Wasn't Tahir picked by CSK? Perhaps I imagined it....

Also, wasn't he the highest wicket-taker (amongst spinners) last season?...
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He wasn't picked in auction initially last year and was sold for a measly amount this year.
 
rhony said:
He wasn't picked in auction initially last year and was sold for a measly amount this year.
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Perhaps, but as long as he is part of a squad, you can't really say 'he has no takers'.

Plus, Shadab is an all-rounder so not a direct comparison anyway.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Perhaps, but as long as he is part of a squad, you can't really say 'he has no takers'.

Plus, Shadab is an all-rounder so not a direct comparison anyway.
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Fair enough. "Had" no takers then. The point is foreign spinners are not valued expecially from Asia. It's all conjecture anyway.
 
rhony said:
Fair enough. "Had" no takers then. The point is foreign spinners are not valued expecially from Asia. It's all conjecture anyway.
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Rashid Khan 9 crores
Mujeeb Ahmed(?) 4 crores
Sandeep Lachlan(?) 2 crores
Tahir 1 crore
Shakib 2 crores
 
UN talkz said:
Rashid Khan 9 crores
Mujeeb Ahmed(?) 4 crores
Sandeep Lachlan(?) 2 crores
Tahir 1 crore
Shakib 2 crores
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All are Asians from birth ...So point is Forien spinners are not valued much in IPL ! Except Shane Warne of course.
 
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IndianFan2018 said:
All are Asians from birth ...So point is Forien spinners are not valued much in IPL ! Except Shane Warne of course.
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The poster above is saying "foreign spinners are not valued expecially from Asia"
I think he says Asain spinners arent valued unless i have misunderstood him.
 
UN talkz said:
The poster above is saying "foreign spinners are not valued expecially from Asia"
I think he says Asain spinners arent valued unless i have misunderstood him.
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My opinion is only Forien spinners are not of much demand in IPL for obvious reasons ...they are not exposed to spin friendly tracks from grade level cricket.
 
IndianFan2018 said:
My opinion is only Forien spinners are not of much demand in IPL for obvious reasons ...they are not exposed to spin friendly tracks from grade level cricket.
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Yep you are right apart from Shane Warne Foriegn spinners have never been in demand or have done nothing of note in IPL
 
Would Babar Azam get selected in IPL ?

T20 Stats:

Matches - 20
Avg - 53
SR - 127.49
50s - 5

"Number 1" in T20s

Personally, i believe he has no chance to get selected in IPL. However, would be interested in your views.
 
Probably No.Root has slightly better chance of being selected but Root himself wasn't picked.Anyway,Both are very good T20 batsmen.
 
What is the point of creating such a useless thread when we all knows pak players are not part of ipl since 2008 its freaken 10 years
Good try to bash him he must be doing something right
 
Yes. He would be :))

If he was Indian with exactly the same stats we would be singing his praises.
 
No...He is the number one batsman in the world...IPL is beneath his dignity...he would probably score 10 100s per season in IPL...should only play PSL where bowling is good enough to not allow such devastation. :babar
 
His T20 strike rate is low due to playing quite a few games on dead tracks in UAE and WI. In Pakistan his SR is definitely above 140 lol.
 
What's the point of this thread just to bash Babar?

He has good stats and would have made any IPL side if he was Indian, however, as a Pakistani he will be competing for the four overseas player quota and most teams would prefer bowlers/alrounders for their quota rather than an overseas bat who can anchor the innings.
 
Yeah Babar is outperforming every batsman in the world against D grade WI attack on the flattest tracks..Becchhara still has grand Strike rate of 127..lol
 
Spectrum said:
Yeah Babar is outperforming every batsman in the world against D grade WI attack on the flattest tracks..Becchhara still has grand Strike rate of 127..lol
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Last time he played India he scored 46(52) which was better than 10 out of the 11 Indians that batted that day.


Let's see how long you last on this forum with that condescending attitude.
 
Spectrum said:
Yeah Babar is outperforming every batsman in the world against D grade WI attack on the flattest tracks..Becchhara still has grand Strike rate of 127..lol
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ho so doesn't indian play SL like very other month? Not to mention they also play WI-and lost while we won against them in Pakistan, UAE, and WI. What is your point? Don't tell me your super batsmen can't produce these kinds of stats even against lesser teams like WI SL....that's too bad...Guess there is a reason why they aren't number 1. :shafiq2
 
Darkrai said:
ho so doesn't indian play SL like very other month? Not to mention they also play WI-and lost while we won against them in Pakistan, UAE, and WI. What is your point? Don't tell me your super batsmen can't produce these kinds of stats even against lesser teams like WI SL....that's too bad...Guess there is a reason why they aren't number 1. :shafiq2
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Their superstars like Rahul and Pandey can’t buy a run against these teams in ODI and then they bash Babar for feasting on them.

IIRC Rahul averaged like ~10 in a 5 match series vs SL :))
 
Spectrum said:
Yeah Babar is outperforming every batsman in the world against D grade WI attack on the flattest tracks..Becchhara still has grand Strike rate of 127..lol
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He has been scoring runs against all bowling attacks in T20s. You are mixing up his ODI stats with his T20's.
 
Lol..first let Babbu buy some runs against good attacks then talk.
He is the most overrated batsman since legend Umar Akmal.
 
babajee said:
Their superstars like Rahul and Pandey can’t buy a run against these teams in ODI and then they bash Babar for feasting on them.

IIRC Rahul averaged like ~10 in a 5 match series vs SL :))
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Very funny seeing Indians bash Babar on social media as well. It's like they're afraid of Pakistan batsman out performing their batsmen. Insecurity is on a different level.
 
Darkrai said:
Very funny seeing Indians bash Babar on social media as well. It's like they're afraid of Pakistan batsman out performing their batsmen. Insecurity is on a different level.
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They already know our bowling wipes the floor with theirs and if we get competent batsmen then it's game over for India. Hence the desperation to put down Babar.
 
Logical said:
T20 Stats:

Matches - 20
Avg - 53
SR - 127.49
50s - 5

"Number 1" in T20s

Personally, i believe he has no chance to get selected in IPL. However, would be interested in your views.
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I'm sorry with a terrible choice of thread like this you should change your username to "illogical".

Ofc Babar isn't good enough to be picked from the overseas quota since Root can't even get picked himself.
 
Syed1 said:
They already know our bowling wipes the floor with theirs and if we get competent batsmen then it's game over for India. Hence the desperation to put down Babar.
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Cut this crap that you have the best bowling attack. Your best bowler Hasan had the same treatment given by average batsman. Bravo is far better hitter.
 
To get selected for IPL you don't need qualifications. It is a platform for everybody. Infact those who have never played first class can make debut. Babar will definitely find a place. Whether he plays or not depends on the strength of the teams. If they have exceptional overseas bowlers he may not find a place. But most likely he will find ap lace
 
Send1983 said:
Cut this crap that you have the best bowling attack. Your best bowler Hasan had the same treatment given by average batsman. Bravo is far better hitter.
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Indians of all people should be the last ones to make fun of Pakistan’s bowling attack :)))

May I remind you Amir made King Kohli look like a tailender and took out your top 3 like they were nobodies. Hasan then put the finishing touches. Amir and Hasan are the best ODI bowlers in the world.
 
backfootpunch said:
I'm sorry with a terrible choice of thread like this you should change your username to "illogical".

Ofc Babar isn't good enough to be picked from the overseas quota since Root can't even get picked himself.
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Umm Kane Williamson got selected. He is a garbage T20 batsman.
 
babajee said:
Umm Kane Williamson got selected. He is a garbage T20 batsman.
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I wouldn't read too much with the difference in averages or his no.1 T20I ranking because on that basis then Babar > Fakhar in T20Is which simply isn't the case.

Kane has scored against better sides unlike Babar who has bullied the likes of WI (recent series was a C team), SL, World XI in Pakistan and Dubai.

I acknowledge Abu Dhabi is the slowest wicket known to man and with huge boundaries it's the most substandard ground for T20 cricket due to the magnitude of difficulty of scoring quickly however a SR of 85 is still unacceptable - I would expect a minimum of 100 if he was just a decent level T20 player.

Furthermore have you seen his SR in WI? - to save you a few clicks it's 103-104! So if Williamson is garbage then how is Babar any better?

Also he has yet to play play in the following countries - Aus, SA, SL, India, Bangladesh and has just one innings in England when Pakistan were a few runs away from the target. Williamson on the other hand has played everywhere so with his sample size his stats are far more reliable. Having played all sides an average of 31 with a SR of 120 doesn't make him garbage at all.

Don't get me wrong he's not a world class T20 batsman but with his experience and his against better sides at a reasonable SR makes him a more attractive pick than Babar Azam. I should also add if he's such a garbage T20 batsman why did he average over 40 last year in the IPL with a monster SR excess of 150?
 
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Mohammad Aamir and Shadab Khan (mainly because leg spin is the flavor of the day). Shoaib Malik too, the guy is one of the best t20 players.
 
Marketability is a big factor these days. Bit of hype has to come with the player. Routine players may find it very hard. Look at Joe Root, Pujara. nobody bought them. Lot of hacks were bought. Not that Pujara is good. But there are some who never played first class cricket were bought.
 
backfootpunch said:
I wouldn't read too much with the difference in averages or his no.1 T20I ranking because on that basis then Babar > Fakhar in T20Is which simply isn't the case.

Kane has scored against better sides unlike Babar who has bullied the likes of WI (recent series was a C team), SL, World XI in Pakistan and Dubai.

I acknowledge Abu Dhabi is the slowest wicket known to man and with huge boundaries it's the most substandard ground for T20 cricket due to the magnitude of difficulty of scoring quickly however a SR of 85 is still unacceptable - I would expect a minimum of 100 if he was just a decent level T20 player.

Furthermore have you seen his SR in WI? - to save you a few clicks it's 103-104! So if Williamson is garbage then how is Babar any better?

Also he has yet to play play in the following countries - Aus, SA, SL, India, Bangladesh and has just one innings in England when Pakistan were a few runs away from the target. Williamson on the other hand has played everywhere so with his sample size his stats are far more reliable. Having played all sides an average of 31 with a SR of 120 doesn't make him garbage at all.

Don't get me wrong he's not a world class T20 batsman but with his experience and his against better sides at a reasonable SR makes him a more attractive pick than Babar Azam. I should also add if he's such a garbage T20 batsman why did he average over 40 last year in the IPL with a monster SR excess of 150?
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Kane was an absolute flop against Pakistan. Flopped against Aus and England apart from one knock.

Yeah his SR in Windies is very low because in that series the max score was like 138. They were also slow and low wickets.

Whenever it has been a good wicket he has scored runs at a good SR.
 
Not sure why people here are calling me an Indian. Point of this thread (before it got merged) is to simply assess Babar's current value amongst some of the best foreign players in IPL today.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] if you are still around these days would like your 2 cents on this.
 
babajee said:
Kane was an absolute flop against Pakistan. Flopped against Aus and England apart from one knock.

Yeah his SR in Windies is very low because in that series the max score was like 138. They were also slow and low wickets.

Whenever it has been a good wicket he has scored runs at a good SR.
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Ok for argument sake let's just say Williamson is a flop in T20Is and hypothetically Pakistanis could play IPL once again with Babar in the draft. If you were the owner of Sunrisers are you going to let Williamson go and buy Babar Azam to replace him?
 
backfootpunch said:
Ok for argument sake let's just say Williamson is a flop in T20Is and hypothetically Pakistanis could play IPL once again with Babar in the draft. If you were the owner of Sunrisers are you going to let Williamson go and buy Babar Azam to replace him?
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Forgot to add considering after a superb IPL in 2017 ^
 
Watched a little bit of ipl. The difference is only young indian batsmen better than pak but psl bowling is un matched. A dozen Pakistani players at least can get in including ibtisam, sameen, hussain, asif ali and umaid. Ipl is no big deal just jam packed crowds. Quality is on par with psl.
 
backfootpunch said:
Ok for argument sake let's just say Williamson is a flop in T20Is and hypothetically Pakistanis could play IPL once again with Babar in the draft. If you were the owner of Sunrisers are you going to let Williamson go and buy Babar Azam to replace him?
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No because Williamson is a star and will pull crowds.
 
babajee said:
No because Williamson is a star and will pull crowds.
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No no forget about stardom - I should have made it clear for batting reasons. The point I was trying to convey across was when Williamson has had an epic IPL 2017 you wouldn't even think about replacing him with Babar (assuming if that option was available for Sunrisers this year) because I doubt he could match those stats!
 
Syed1 said:
What's the point of this thread just to bash Babar?

He has good stats and would have made any IPL side if he was Indian, however, as a Pakistani he will be competing for the four overseas player quota and most teams would prefer bowlers/alrounders for their quota rather than an overseas bat who can anchor the innings.
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Same reason :root :amla got snubbed by IPL franchises, agree on your view :babar
 
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backfootpunch said:
No no forget about stardom - I should have made it clear for batting reasons. The point I was trying to convey across was when Williamson has had an epic IPL 2017 you wouldn't even think about replacing him with Babar (assuming if that option was available for Sunrisers this year) because I doubt he could match those stats!
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Yes why would I fix something that isn’t broke?

Anyway Babar could probably match those stats. IPL bowling is nothing special.
 
Fakhar Zaman would be preferred, as he can play spin well. Babar Azam would also be picked, as he is reliable.

In our bowling attack, only Wahab and Amir would be picked, as both have pace, and have a good economy rate. Fahim can be considered, as he can hit big, plus can bowl, a bit like Pandya.

Don't see any other getting picked. Lack of power hitters and pace bowlers.
 
Amir and Hasan will be the most attractive buys. Shadab will go for big money too, especially as he adds some batting prowess as well. Fakhar will get bought, but is not a 100% pick; very good openers like Tamin, Guptill and even Hales (until recently) went unpicked.

I cannot see Babar getting in especially as a foreign player; for sake of comparison, Root is a much superior player with a similar style/position and still didn't get a contract. Imad will get in as all-rounders are worth their wait in gold in the IPL. So will Faheem but at a low base-price. The thing is that the overseas talent pool is so incredibly vast that I can't see more than 5-6 Pakistanis getting chosen.

I watched the CSK-MI game and the quality of bowling was actually pretty good. The pitch had pretty significant movement as well; hard and very grassy. I think that's actually a factor that helps the quality of cricket; you have 8-10 grounds in every corner of a country such as India. Therefore, you'll have to be adept to playing in seam-bowler friendly wicket, hard and true wickets, slow and low wickets, dust-bowls and so on. This would really test your skill-set and that's why winning home-games becomes so important.

That's actually a huge reason why I want the PSL back in Pakistan in multiple home-grounds. That will bring that true home-advantage back into play too! :)
 
BreadPakoda said:
McLenanghan is an ordinary bowler. Always surprises me how he gets a gig.
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It's the Mumbai wicket. It's very hard and bouncy and doesn't spin much. His hit the deck style makes him very potent on that wicket usually. He's like a T20 version of Wagner in a way.

On the contrary he would be useless in UAE wickets which is why he sat on the LQ bench. Playing horses for courses becomes important when you have 7 home-games and other away games. Conditions vary significantly.
 
From a pure business perspective, Every IPL team would pick a Pakistani player as each team will want a dedicated fan following of Pakistanis. That's the truth!

This is if the situation between India and Pakistan is peaceful and calm of course!
 
Logical said:
Not sure why people here are calling me an Indian. Point of this thread (before it got merged) is to simply assess Babar's current value amongst some of the best foreign players in IPL today.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] if you are still around these days would like your 2 cents on this.
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I think, Babar is among the best T20 players around. People think T20 to be only slam-bang batting, but it's not- otherwise Marlon Samuels won't have won 2 WC finals. Babar can be a fantastic T20 player in IPL because of the wickets & out fields there. He is a touch player who should enjoy ball coming on to bat & lightning outfield.

Having said that, batting isn't the scarce resource in IPL. He would have been a top batsman there as well, but there are only 4 spots - it might happen that he could be sitting odd games, or in rain shorten games. I think, at current form most valuable PAK player in IPL could be Wahab, Amir, Hasan & Fahim, even Irfaaan, ahead of Babar.
 
I think players with that X factor would be picks - I don't think the likes of Nawaz or Imad would be popular or even Babar Azam.

Instead I think Mohammad Amir, Shadab Khan, Hasan Ali, Fakhar Zaman, Wahab Riaz, faheem Ashraf, even perhaps Usman Shinwari.
 
Amir, hasan, wahab, fakhar, shadab,malak Saab, irfan and few more bowlers
 
It’s will be a step down for Pakistani players to play in ipl.. batters would feast on trundles & bowlers will be just to good for most of the has beens..even if our players were invited I would prefer no 1 went... PSL is the way fwd
 
Mirpur express said:
It’s will be a step down for Pakistani players to play in ipl.. batters would feast on trundles & bowlers will be just to good for most of the has beens..even if our players were invited I would prefer no 1 went... PSL is the way fwd
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So top batters and bowlers from all yeams except Pakistan who play in IPL are trundlers and has beens?
 
Mirpur express said:
It’s will be a step down for Pakistani players to play in ipl.. batters would feast on trundles & bowlers will be just to good for most of the has beens..even if our players were invited I would prefer no 1 went... PSL is the way fwd
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If Relationship between India and Pakistan improve and pak players allowed in IPL
Most of the Pak players will prefer to play in IPL over PSL Including Lala
 
Easily most of our pacers. The quality of local fast bowling in IPL is pretty ordinary. If Irfan jr. was born on the other side of the border he would get twice more than what Unadkat went for
 
I hope India Pakistan relations become normal so that Pakistani players can participate in IPL as well as we can have bilateral series.

Players that would be picked up from current Pakistan line up would be.

1. Amir 2. Hassan 3. Wahab 4. Babar 5. Fakhar

Besides that no one else atm
 
Josh said:
I hope India Pakistan relations become normal so that Pakistani players can participate in IPL as well as we can have bilateral series.

Players that would be picked up from current Pakistan line up would be.

1. Amir 2. Hassan 3. Wahab 4. Babar 5. Fakhar

Besides that no one else atm
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are you kidding?
 
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