Which is the better player out of these two?

[On_the_up]

Don't try to guess who they might be initially and just go by the stats.

If you were bidding on behalf of a franchise, which one would be higher up on your list?

It's just a bit of fun guys, let's not get too serious.

Tests
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Player A
Batting 1902 runs @ 33.96
Bowling 79 wkts @ 34.46

Player B
Batting 3452 runs @ 39.22
Bowling 52 wkts @ 33.90

ODIs
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Player A
Batting 1554 runs @ 33.78
Bowling 50 wkts @ 39.14

Player B
Batting 5876 runs @ 33.01
Bowling 133 wkts @ 36.79

T20
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Player A
Batting 192 runs @ 14.76
Bowling 10 wkts @ 48.5

Player B
Batting 1619 runs @ 22.48
Bowling 46 wkts @ 24.52

 

[Mamoon]

Difficult to compare without the batting strike rates of the respective players.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Based on that data only, clearly player B.

Who runs are scored against, conditions, strike rate etc. opinion might change.

 

[On_the_up]

Strike rate, batting wise.

Player A
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Test 63.82
ODI 97.24
T20 136.17

Player B
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Test 56.33
ODI 75.58
T20 114.41

 

[last_knight]

Strike rate, batting wise.

Player A
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Test 63.82
ODI 97.24
T20 136.17

Player B
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Test 56.33
ODI 75.58
T20 114.41

That kills it for Player B.

Player A most likely has started his career recently and has 79 test wickets, More like a Bowling AR. I will always bid for a Bowling AR.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Player A seems like a youngsta beauty aka Shadab. I will pick him over the TTF aka Hafeez.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

player a everyday

sounds like a seam bowler rather than a left arm slow spinner.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Player A for me. Also I know the names of both these players and if he anyone gets to know them, they would definitely select only 1 option and criticize other.

 

[aloo paratha]

PLayer A as player B is too slow for ODI and T20 cricket. Seems the player is young so I'd take him in tests as well as he has more potential.

 

[kingusama92]

Player A.

Player B appears to be a veteran who hasn't improved at all with age.

 

[Square Drive]

Player B.

Not too hard to figure out who either of those two are.

Once you guess figure out who player B is, you'll figure out that he has improved actually.

Also, OP should've posted bowling ER too. Along with bowling SR, of course.

 

[Abdullah719]

Player A for me. Also I know the names of both these players and if he anyone gets to know them, they would definitely select only 1 option and criticize other.

I know, right? Player A all the way.

 

[Muhammad10]

I want to see a comparison of their batting record in Test cricket in South Africa.
Oh, and I pick player A.

 

[Rayyman]

Player B easily.

Player A doesn't even hold a candle to somebody like Anwar Ali.

 

[QalandarFan]

Player B any day of the week you forgot to mention Player B played a big role in helping his team win an ICC Tournament in all facets of the game, and Player A played a big role in helping his team choke out of the tournament.

Player B might be the single greatest all-rounder EVER! I have never seen anyone so naturally gifted and blessed in all facets of the game!

 

[QalandarFan]

Based on those numbers presented in OP Player B is the obvious choice!!

Only reason I would select Player A is IF Dale Steyn is in the oposition.

 

[Abdullah719]

Player B any day of the week you forgot to mention Player B played a big role in helping his team win an ICC Tournament in all facets of the game, and Player A played a big role in helping his team choke out of the tournament.

Player B might be the single greatest all-rounder EVER! I have never seen anyone so naturally gifted and blessed in all facets of the game!

You are giving it all away now.

 

[MMHS]

I think, apart from direct stats & obvious other factors, it's extremely important when these players have played & what was the standard for that period, particularly for LO stats. Besides, these stats doesn't reflect individual skills for a particular venue. For example, let's take 2 all-rounders - Ben Stokes & MoHa : at their best, in any Asian venue Stokes doesn't have any chance to compete with MoHa. Also, bowling stats between A & B might have a factor of bowling action change - which needs to be factored in before & after context.


Last but the most critical factor - outside PCB, cricket is a young man's game - best time for a player is between 23 to 35. If B is a Pakistani player, based on his volume & type of stats, chances are high that, by the blessings of PCB, he is in his 40s, playing as late 30s, faking 3 to 5 years of age - for me, that's straight disqualification, even if B happens to be someone Imran Khan or Gary Sobers. It's a game of instincts & reflex - even Gary Sobers averages 0 in ODI career, because he started that career at 38. One can't beat age, but might manage through back door, which we call experience; here that's not considered in stats.

Overall, at both's prime (say at the ideal age of 29) considering all KPI, I'll pick B at his prime, because his bowling stats are better (would have liked to see economy of LO bowling as well) - in LO cricket that's extremely handy for all-rounders.

In Test, both has similar bowling stats (but A must have taken more work load by bowling more overs - similar average but more wickets, chances are most that A had bowled more overs/Test), but that batting stats indicates, B can make the Test team as specialist bat, A can't, neither he (A) can make it as bowler - so, in Test, B actually is a batting all-rounder, A is a bits & pieces utility player.

B for me, no doubt for all 3 formats (T20 might be a tie) - unless we start to factor against whom, where, how, what ......

 

[QalandarFan]

You are giving it all away now.

I apologize, I thought the SR's would have gave it away.

 

[Junaids]

I'd take Stokes over Hafeez every time.

Hafeez takes 1 wicket per Test.

That's not an all-rounder. That's a batsman who bowls a tiny bit part-time.

He's almost 37 years old and has only ever taken 52 wickets.

 

[Junaids]

Incredibly, Mohammad Hafeez has 318 international caps.

He has made 20 centuries in 362 international innings.

Imran Khan only ever got 263 international caps!

 

[Muhammad10]

Time to have a look at how both players have fared against one of the top Test teams of the last decade or so.


Batting:

Player A's statistics in Tests against South Africa: 7 matches, 629 runs, Highest score: 258, Average: 48.38, Strike rate: 85.46, Hundreds: 2, Fities: 2.

Player B's statistics in Tests against South Africa: 9 matches, 307 runs, Highest score: 60, Average: 17.05, Strike rate: 50.41, Hundreds: 0, Fities: 1.


Bowling:

Player A's statistics in Tests against South Africa: 7 matches, 19 wickets, Average: 29.94, Strike rate: 56.5.

Player B's statistics in Tests against South Africa: 9 matches, 14 wickets, Average: 41.11, Strike rate: 82.3.


MOTM/MOTS:

Player A in Tests against South Africa: MOTM: 1 (Excluding the ongoing Test where he has scored a vital hundred, taken a few wickets and may well end up being named MOTM), MOTS: 1.

Player B in Tests against South Africa: MOTM: 0, MOTS: 0.