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Just one name comes into my mind after following cricket for over two decades.Its INDIA.I wonder whether there is any second opinion! Is there any?

Another question that comes into my mind.Any team can take advantage of home conditions. But nobody can take as much as India.What makes India such a commendable demolishing side in home conditions?
 
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India is on the way to be the best team in the world home-away they have most bases covered and the likes of Shami, Bhuvi will do well on foreign pitches while their batsmen are equipped to handle seam and bounce if not always swing.
 
I think right now Pak, but overall India in last 28 years( lost only 3 series).
Pak edge out India because of their strong batting line up suitable to Asian conditions.
 
Navdeep Srivastava said:
I think right now Pak, but overall India in last 28 years( lost only 3 series).
Pak edge out India because of their strong batting line up suitable to Asian conditions.
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But how?
Pakistan has lost a test each to Srilanka(2013), to New Zealand in 2014 at their home in UAE .Both those series were drawn.India won't do that.

Pakistan lost to South Africa,England and New Zealand in ODIS in UAE by some big margins in recent years.India won't do that.

And Pakistan's lowest order is the weakest.Any top order failure always leads to calamity.
 
India last lost home test vs England in late 2012. From 2013 India has lost no test at home.

Visting team Mat Won Lost Draw Start Date
Australia 4 4 0 0 22-Feb-13
West Indies 2 2 0 0 6-Nov-13
South Africa 4 3 0 1 5-Nov-15
New Zealand 3 3 0 0 22-Sep-16
England 3 1 0 1 9-Nov-16
 
jeetu said:
India last lost home test vs England in late 2012. From 2013 India has lost no test at home.

Visting team Mat Won Lost Draw Start Date
Australia 4 4 0 0 22-Feb-13
West Indies 2 2 0 0 6-Nov-13
South Africa 4 3 0 1 5-Nov-15
New Zealand 3 3 0 0 22-Sep-16
England 3 1 0 1 9-Nov-16
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That's a cracker of a performance.Look at the opposition.All big guns except the 2nd name in the list.
 
current: INDIA
its been couple of years, Ind is demolishing every team

historically: Australia
dominated since long.. it is just now that australia has gone down in performance..

huge performance diff between home and away: Bangladesh
 
Australia and India historically if you look at data from 1990.

Currently India.

Its not invincible at home and is yet to figure out all its pieces (in batting) but a certain player simply doesn't let the visiting teams breakthrough and get the damn wins.
 
Historically, Australia and India have always been the toughest place to tour in the world. Right now, it's probably India.
 
I can't think of a specific reason. But generally Australia and India know their own conditions better than any other team in the world.
 
At present IND, but over all it has to be AUS.
 
Overall Australia,currently India.What is surprising is that India is winning many a matches without them being rank turners,Overall AUS surpasses all
 
street cricketer said:
Historically, Australia and India have always been the toughest place to tour in the world. Right now, it's probably India.
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India hasn't lost even a single test and won every series since 2013.Australia lost to South Africa in current series.So clearly it's India for now.
 
joly said:
Overall Australia,currently India.What is surprising is that India is winning many a matches without them being rank turners,Overall AUS surpasses all
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Very good point.
A decade ago India used to bamboozled the opposition with rank turners.But the trend has gradually changed.Not all the pitches are rank turner now.India used rank turners against South Africa recently and on one occasion against New Zealand.Otherwise, their pacers have come into act now.
 
SA just beat Australia at home and England can win a few tests there too. WI just won a test in the UAE and Pakistan haven't been very dominant there (they don't lose series but they don't win by large margins either). It has to be India right now.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Let SL, PAK and B'desh tour India once we will know :srini
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Sri Lanka has never won a test in India. Yes not even a test, let alone a series. Don't know how many matches they played in India. Whatever, that's got to be the worst record by any team in any country given that pitches in India are similar to the ones Sri Lanka play at home.
 
Mainul said:
Just one name comes into my mind after following cricket for over two decades.Its INDIA.I wonder whether there is any second opinion! Is there any?

Another question that comes into my mind.Any team can take advantage of home conditions. But nobody can take as much as India.What makes India such a commendable demolishing side in home conditions?
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Aus is dominant as well. I think Aus has lost 3-4 series and it was mostly to SA in the last 20-25 years.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Let SL, PAK and B'desh tour India once we will know :srini
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That will be interesting really! True test of Indian legacy at home.

It's strange that India didn't invite these 3 teams for a full series for many years!Is there any cause behind this?I know the cause behind Pakistan and Bangladesh not being invited.But i also can't remember when last time Srilanka played tests on Indian soil.When Srilanka will touring next?

Bangladesh has been invited for a honeymoon tour after 16 years.That's frustrating for all of us.

These 3 subcontinent team will challenge India the most on their home soil and hold the capacity to upset India.
 
Buffet said:
Aus is dominant as well. I think Aus has lost 3-4 series and it was mostly to SA in the last 20-25 years.
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England will also win against Australia on Australia with the current team i think.
 
Mainul said:
England will also win against Australia on Australia with the current team i think.
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Hard to say because Eng hardly plays well in Aus. Aus is down, but I won'y read much into losing series to SA. I want to see Pakistan playing Aus to see how much down they are. We have won in Aus many times so let's wait and see how other teams do in Aus before writing off Aus as a dominant team at home.

India may have an edge right now, but over all Aus is hardest for visiting teams. You have to go one century back to find a whitewash at home for Aus.
 
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Pakistan are actually lucky not to be touring India now! This myth of their batsmen handling our spinners well would have got investigated (it is not like their aging batsmen playing stubborn innings against lesser spinners in UAE). Even then our seamers would make sure of troubling them big time even on these pitches! The quality of previous teams visiting India was something else, but still the contest was even. Lesser said about their current team the better!
 
India away are still vulnerable against strong teams because of their batting! This bowling unit + late order batting + yesteryear's top order batting + Kohli captaincy would be the right combination! Which means we need to improve our top order batting like anything. Openers need to be settled. It will be better if Rahane is seen as opener which will negate his weakness against slow bowlers. Since our late order batting is doing well (expected to do reasonably well even overseas) we can take such calculated gambles! And W/K spot is crucial and also a settled seam bowling unit.
 
SA then Australia since readmission.
If we look at data, SA has only lost to two sides that is Australia and England @home.
When you look at the likes of India, they have lost a series against non Asian side three times (SA, AUS & Eng). In comparison the Asian teams have coped a pasting in SA and Australia regularly. We shouldn't neglect the fact that they avoid each other at all costs.
Australia in return has lost to Windies, SA and Eng at home since the 90's.
If Australia and SA were mingled in politics and didn't play each other regularly, they'd also lose one series every twenty years.
England has lost at home to everyone, so i won't mention them next to Australia and SA.
 
soso_killer said:
SA then Australia since readmission.
If we look at data, SA has only lost to two sides that is Australia and England @home.
When you look at the likes of India, they have lost a series against non Asian side three times (SA, AUS & Eng). In comparison the Asian teams have coped a pasting in SA and Australia regularly. We shouldn't neglect the fact that they avoid each other at all costs.
Australia in return has lost to Windies, SA and Eng at home since the 90's.
If Australia and SA were mingled in politics and didn't play each other regularly, they'd also lose one series every twenty years.
England has lost at home to everyone, so i won't mention them next to Australia and SA.
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We are dominant if you count series otherwise we drop too many tests at home to be dominant.

Starting from 1992 at home,

Aus W/L is 4.8
Ind W/L is 3.6
SA w/L is 2.5
 
RamLakhan said:
Pakistan are actually lucky not to be touring India now! This myth of their batsmen handling our spinners well would have got investigated (it is not like their aging batsmen playing stubborn innings against lesser spinners in UAE). Even then our seamers would make sure of troubling them big time even on these pitches! The quality of previous teams visiting India was something else, but still the contest was even. Lesser said about their current team the better!
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I fully agree.

This current Indian team is better than Pakistan in all 3 departments.

But the gap between two teams always gets narrower by the fire of Indo-Pak arch rivalry.So even then i expect a close contest between them on Indian soil.
 
Buffet said:
We are dominant if you count series otherwise we drop too many tests at home to be dominant.

Starting from 1992 at home,

Aus W/L is 4.8
Ind W/L is 3.6
SA w/L is 2.5
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no one remembers how many matches an individual team has won in World Cups.
Series wins are no different, either you win them or you don't.
When last did India play Pakistan at home?
 
soso_killer said:
SA then Australia since readmission.
If we look at data, SA has only lost to two sides that is Australia and England @home.
When you look at the likes of India, they have lost a series against non Asian side three times (SA, AUS & Eng). In comparison the Asian teams have coped a pasting in SA and Australia regularly. We shouldn't neglect the fact that they avoid each other at all costs.
Australia in return has lost to Windies, SA and Eng at home since the 90's.
If Australia and SA were mingled in politics and didn't play each other regularly, they'd also lose one series every twenty years.
England has lost at home to everyone, so i won't mention them next to Australia and SA.
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So basically you are saying that we should not look at how many series was lost but to number of opponent. I would have agreed with you if you SA had won even one series against Australia at home, or you had lost around 4odd series compare to India or Australia. But you have lost lot ( I think 5to Australia and 2to England) , number of opposition don't even matter.
 
This thread also opens up another interesting discussion

Posters here are always bashing India for being home track bullies and what not, while no one lays a finger on Australia who also do the same
 
Buffet said:
Hard to say because Eng hardly plays well in Aus. Aus is down, but I won'y read much into losing series to SA. I want to see Pakistan playing Aus to see how much down they are. We have won in Aus many times so let's wait and see how other teams do in Aus before writing off Aus as a dominant team at home.

India may have an edge right now, but over all Aus is hardest for visiting teams. You have to go one century back to find a whitewash at home for Aus.
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I don't think that Pakistan will do any better than their previous tours to Australia, rather will do worse.This upcoming series will only increase the lost confidence of the Aussies.
Yes, England hardly played well in Australia. But this team under Smith is vulnerable to carry the legacy of previous Aussie teams.And if you look at the combination of present English team, their team is tailor made for doing well on bouncy and seaming conditions.I don't count their performance on Indian track but when i see that Woakes and Broad bats at 9 and 10 and there are 3 very good all rounders in Stokes, Woakes and Moin this England team seems something else to challenge the Aussies.
 
Major said:
This thread also opens up another interesting discussion

Posters here are always bashing India for being home track bullies and what not, while no one lays a finger on Australia who also do the same
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I don't think so.No one including me is intending to bash India for their supreme performance on home tracks, rather i see it as a strength of India.Other teams have got the same opportunity to become a tiger at home, but can't.

Australia recently became a lesser force at home and away from home under Smith.Otherwise they were never a home track bully.And they even lost to South Africa at home whom India beat convincingly last time.At least India holds its strength on home soil.
 
Pakistan. Haven't lost at home since 2007 I believe?

Series are what counts and we are undefeated.
 
Navdeep Srivastava said:
So basically you are saying that we should not look at how many series was lost but to number of opponent. I would have agreed with you if you SA had won even one series against Australia at home, or you had lost around 4odd series compare to India or Australia. But you have lost lot ( I think 5to Australia and 2to England) , number of opposition don't even matter.
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Yes and no. It's pointless avoiding teams who are used to your home conditions and playing teams completely foreign to such conditions.
What/how would SA & Aus home records read if we exclude encounters between the two nations?
These two sides are the only ones with reputable home records IMO. It would be a complete farce if Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka played more games individually in SA and Aus, than say Eng, Aus and SA in their respective countries.
SA, Eng and Australia have all played more games in India than the rest of the Asian sides. Even a lowly NZ has had more games there. It's fruitless beating Western nations in Asia and then comparing western nations against each other To then stack a claim that a team beating these sides at home is the best is bordering on desperate. That doesn't sit right with me.
And no SA doesn't have the best of home records, but are tough to beat.
 
India easily

Even when they had a weak team in the 90s, they did well at home. From 2000 onwards, India has been the hardest team to beat at home.
 
The_Odd_One said:
India easily

Even when they had a weak team in the 90s, they did well at home. From 2000 onwards, India has been the hardest team to beat at home.
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Yes, since 90s India has been very hard to beat.

Please someone post a comparison table between home results of Australia and India since 90s.It will include both test and ODI series.
 
Last 5 years



Last 10 Years



Safe to say that India has been by far the strongest team at home in the last decade.
 
Mainul said:
Yes, since 90s India has been very hard to beat.

Please someone post a comparison table between home results of Australia and India since 90s.It will include both test and ODI series.
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Home Test Record in 1990 (Does not include tests on neutral pitches)
Team Mat Won Lost Draw W/L
Australia 152 102 20 30 5.1
India 109 61 16 32 3.812
South Africa 119 67 26 26 2.576
Sri Lanka 116 54 26 36 2.076
Pakistan 66 28 15 23 1.866
England 174 83 45 46 1.844
New Zealand 107 37 33 37 1.121
West Indies 121 40 40 41 1
Zimbabwe 56 9 31 16 0.29
Bangladesh 53 5 36 12 0.138

Pakistan's Record (both Home and Neutral)
Team Span Mat Won Lost Draw W/L
Pakistan 1990-2016 98 45 23 30 1.956
 
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Pakistan still haven't lost the series in UAE so they should be up there
 
Chrish said:
Pakistan still haven't lost the series in UAE so they should be up there
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Pakistan has failed to win many series in UAE. In familiar conditions, not losing is at best a decent result and I won't call it strong result. For that, you have to dominate oppositions consistently. Sure, it's a good result, but I am talking about in context of this thread.
 
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Buffet said:
Pakistan has failed to win many series in UAE. In familiar conditions, not losing is at best a decent result and I won't call it strong result. For that, you have to dominate oppositions consistently. Sure, it's a good result, but I am talking about in context of this thread.
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To me as long as you don't loose a series for a sustained period at home, it can be considered being dominant.
 
Everyone here is yet to mention that Pakistan of all teams has the best win loss ratio at home.
 
I'd say It's still Australia. They still have the courage to still face teams who are not worse off in their conditions like South Africa or England compared to India which avoids having to face Sri Lanka, Pakistan at home. Bangladesh is also a newcomer which could challenge them.
 
Chrish said:
To me as long as you don't loose a series for a sustained period at home, it can be considered being dominant.
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To me dominant at home means consistently winning. I will never see consistently not losing at home as dominant. Anyway, different views.
 
Suleiman said:
I'd say It's still Australia. They still have the courage to still face teams who are not worse off in their conditions like South Africa or England compared to India which avoids having to face Sri Lanka, Pakistan at home. Bangladesh is also a newcomer which could challenge them.
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sri lanka have never ever won a single test in india....bangladesh well we can beat them in bangladesh too.pakistan we are not afraid as you know as well
 
jeetu said:
Home Test Record in 1990 (Does not include tests on neutral pitches)
Team Mat Won Lost Draw W/L
Australia 152 102 20 30 5.1
India 109 61 16 32 3.812
South Africa 119 67 26 26 2.576
Sri Lanka 116 54 26 36 2.076
Pakistan 66 28 15 23 1.866
England 174 83 45 46 1.844
New Zealand 107 37 33 37 1.121
West Indies 121 40 40 41 1
Zimbabwe 56 9 31 16 0.29
Bangladesh 53 5 36 12 0.138

Pakistan's Record (both Home and Neutral)
Team Span Mat Won Lost Draw W/L
Pakistan 1990-2016 98 45 23 30 1.956
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Thanks a lot.
 
Now a days everybody is getting better at home. But real home series are far and few. For example AUS can really be challenged by SA and Vice Versa, and they both have done well in each others home, For India and Pakistan real challenge will come from each other, both does not play against each other, in a way both have not been tested to limit at home in last 10 years. India is rolling over western opposition easily, Pakistan is baking westerners in desert and getting better off it.

Australian bounce, Indian turn and Pakistan's desert formula is working against opposition that are weaker for those conditions. When Auses come up against team that can deal with bounce aka SA, they really did not shine that well...I still think Pakistan and India has not played high intensity home series in a while, you don't really know the limitation of their team. Without them playing each other, you are not going to see quality test series in respective countries. How good is India, we may never know, unless India Pakistan play 4/5 test series against each other, we will never find out...

Test Cricket may not have long life in Asia, because their is hardly any gripping series. AUS and ENG are living on Ashes, SA does match AUS, rest of the series are just way too one sided to be of any serious interest. I don't see Western team mastering spin or eastern teams mastering green and bounce any time soon, that was never the case, test cricket was living off of locals fight for most part, except WI era, who tried to dominating every where with battery of quicks!!!
 
soso_killer said:
no one remembers how many matches an individual team has won in World Cups.
Series wins are no different, either you win them or you don't.
When last did India play Pakistan at home?
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The analogy is absurd, football and cricket are entirely different games. To compare a WC win to a series win tortures credulity.
 
szrana007 said:
Everyone here is yet to mention that Pakistan of all teams has the best win loss ratio at home.
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Overall they are 5th if you take into account test matches since 1990.
Please take a look at post of [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION].
 
Godgam said:
Last 5 years



Last 10 Years



Safe to say that India has been by far the strongest team at home in the last decade.
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Yes, statistics show it clearly.

But Pakistan is missing in your list of 5 years.Would you add please?
 
India. Easily. Especially in the last 5 years:

25 matches played, 19 won, Lost 2, Drawn 4.

Absolutely flawless at home, 6 or 7 of their 19 wins have been by an innings and they haven't lost a single game at home in more than 4 years.
 
After this win against England, India's claim has become stronger.They are might at home.
 
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