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Many candidates for this award, depending on your political inclinations but who is the worst of the lot?

Leaders of Italy, China... USA - how about Spain or the UK? Did they do enough and sooner to confront the virus?
 
Many candidates for this award, depending on your political inclinations but who is the worst of the lot?

Leaders of Italy, China... USA - how about Spain or the UK? Did they do enough and sooner to confront the virus?

Trump.

Then Johnson.
 
Xi Jinping, had he not hidden the truth and been transparent earlier, we'd not be having the global pandemic.
 
Leaders like Trump were far too relaxed and nonchalant ("it's like a flu") while the virus was ripping through places like Northern Italy, and now the USA are suffering gravely for their late action. On top of that, he seemed to be inciting and supporting anti-lockdown protests on twitter, it's unbelievable.
 
From ‘hoax’ to pandemic: Trump’s shifting rhetoric on coronavirus

From calling "hysteria" over the outbreak a Democratic hoax, to announcing a national emergency and urging all Americans to work from home and avoid public spaces, US president Donald Trump’s rhetoric on the coronavirus pandemic has shifted significantly in the space of a few weeks.

Trump has come in for heavy criticism from political opponents for what they say was his failure to take the threat of the virus seriously when the outbreak first emerged.

"Thirty five thousand people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that?" Trump told supporters at a rally on February 28.

"Thirty five thousand. That's a lot of people. And so far, we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States."

"Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-from-hoax-to-pandemic-trump-s-shifting-rhetoric-on-coronavirus

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I'm no expert but I'm guessing there's a reason why the USA's handling of it has gotten so much criticism.
 
Certain leader is using this opportunity to drive his anti-Muslim agenda, doesn't get any worse than that.
 
XI Jinping - for hiding the virus and the extent of the disease from rest of the world.

Donald Trump - Had shown a lot of fake bravado initially. Tried to convince people that everything is under control, how America can handle this pandemic etc. Then it all backfired.

Boris Johnson - He was also relaxed initially and told british public that life must go on normal. Allowed Cheltenham Festival to go on between 10-13 March which saw an attendence of more than 250,000 people which amplified the disease. Allowed pubs, bars and restaurant to run normally till 16th March. Suddenly panic stuck from 17th but it was too late already.
 
I can say Canadian (& Ontario) leadership has been exceptionally good - prompt & decisive is their acts.

I don’t think any western leader including Trump can be levelled as worst, because these guys are exposed by their free media and democracy. The worst response, you ask me - I’ll say Hasina & her goon cabinet.

Let me explain why - in a country with densely populated 170mn population, one of the worst Medicare system (& awareness), Bangladesh was always one of the most vulnerable countries. Add to that, the number of frequent China visitors (both ways) and the number of expat Bangladeshis in areas like NY, London, Italy, Spain, Malaysia... there was absolutely no reason to believe that Bangladesh wouldn’t be hit severely. Besides, the economy in dependent on mass gathering industries, the neighbourhoods are closely bonded for social and religious activities.

Considering the ground reality, preparation for BD Govt. is worst in world. And, shamefully, whatever we could do proactively, was delayed so that she could pretend everything is normal and celebrate her dad’s birth centenary!!! The last global sports event was Dhaka Cricket League, with open crowd - continued till morning of 17th March, just one example. NGOs and foreign aid agencies are barred from any action, army wasn’t deployed for better crowd management, emergency food, medicine wasn’t stocked for the upcoming crisis, offices and markets were running on usual schedule .... everything was kept as it is so that we have a grand firework on 17th and her pet media kept bluffing people. Whatever, whoever tried to use social media to alert people was arrested/silenced using brutal force - either police or chattra league.

After 17th, there was absolutely no direction for field level administration, doctors and emergency support departments. No kits, precautionary costumes for doctors - hospitals were not ready, testing kits were not placed and there was no process of evacuation (from large cities) - people almost walked 50-100 km on feet to get out. And, there was absolutely no guidelines for RMG & textile industries, where around 12mn low income people works almost day to day earnings. Finally, now there is a major food crisis and whatever relief is distributed, most is looted by her grass root level goons.

So far, “officially” there are about 1000 confirmed cases and less than 50 deaths - so, obviously, Hasina and her non elected Govt. is doing much better than even Canadian leadership. Bravo ....
 
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Top 4 are probably in no particular order Johnson, Trump, the Chinese leader and Modi.
 
Top 4 are probably in no particular order Johnson, Trump, the Chinese leader and Modi.

Why Modi though? I thought he was very proactive and lead the country brilliantly amidst this pandemic.

Saved trapped Indian students from Wuhan by sending special flight.

Unlike US & UK who were reluctant to go the lockdown route fearing economy, Modi cared for people's life more and declared total lockdown. This timely lockdown was appreciated by WHO as well.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...ight-covid-19-pandemic/videoshow/74945537.cms

Took the decision to send hydroxychloroquine to 55 corona hit countries. A move appreciated by Trump and Brazilian president Bolsonaro.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...avirus-hit-countries/articleshow/75186938.cms

Extended the lockdown on time considering the virus is still ongoing. A move appreciated by even opposition leaders like Kejriwal.

Connecting with fellow citizens regularly and giving update the steps central govt is taking in collaboration with state ministers.

If anything, Modi has responded to this cricis the best way among all world leaders IMO.
 
Why Modi though? I thought he was very proactive and lead the country brilliantly amidst this pandemic.

Saved trapped Indian students from Wuhan by sending special flight.

Unlike US & UK who were reluctant to go the lockdown route fearing economy, Modi cared for people's life more and declared total lockdown. This timely lockdown was appreciated by WHO as well.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...ight-covid-19-pandemic/videoshow/74945537.cms

Took the decision to send hydroxychloroquine to 55 corona hit countries. A move appreciated by Trump and Brazilian president Bolsonaro.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...avirus-hit-countries/articleshow/75186938.cms

Extended the lockdown on time considering the virus is still ongoing. A move appreciated by even opposition leaders like Kejriwal.

Connecting with fellow citizens regularly and giving update the steps central govt is taking in collaboration with state ministers.

If anything, Modi has responded to this cricis the best way among all world leaders IMO.

I don’t think you need to explain obvious things to those who have a virus in their thoughts clouding their judgements LoL
 
Boris Johnson was quite a failure. His "herd immunity" proposal was absurd.

Hasina was pretty pathetic. So were many others.

Most world leaders failed with COVID-19.
 
From hosting Trump for a senseless tamasha despite a section of national capital burning at the same time, from doing tamasha of handing over his Twitter account to some women on account of International women's Day, from toppling constitutionally elected governments, from banging thalis, from starting the migrant crisis and still not being able to contain it, from not being able to stop export of PPE kits till 20 March, the list of his failures is endless....

And we still do not have enough PPE and test kits despite having a month long total lockdown already.
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nd...-and-to-mix-with-2215110?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

New Delhi: Excess rice in central godowns will be converted into ethanol to make hand sanitisers and will also be added to petrol to reduce emissions, the government said today in an order seen to be highly controversial with millions on the brink of starvation since the country went into lockdown last month to fight the rapid spread of coronavirus.

Quoting the National Policy on Biofuels, which allows the conversion of surplus foodgrain into ethanol, the government said the decision was taken at a meeting of NBCC (National Biofuel Coordination Committee) chaired by Petroleum Minister Dharmendra Pradhan.
 
See the kind of cluelessness and caring little attitude for majority of Indian population writ large on their decisions.

I mean how can anyone justify these jaahil steps when so many are sleeping hungry everyday?
 
China then Who

cant blame anyone else for not taking it serious when they were given misleading info, most here didnt take it serious at the time either.
 
Xi Jinping is a clear-cut winner (loser?) here.

Disgraceful leadership.
 
Boris the clown, hands down winner.

No other leader was visiting hospitals, shaking hands with those infected and missing meetings. The clown became infected and now is in hiding. An absolute shambles and embarssment for a country like the UK.

I would go as far as suggesting the UK government have been criminally negligent and charges should be bougth forth.
 
Many candidates for this award, depending on your political inclinations but who is the worst of the lot?

Leaders of Italy, China... USA - how about Spain or the UK? Did they do enough and sooner to confront the virus?

Trudeau.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Public opinion based approval ratings of world leaders shown in the charts. <a href="https://twitter.com/PMOIndia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PMOIndia</a> leads <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaFightsCorona?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaFightsCorona</a> from the front. Consistent high approval ratings for <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a>. Nation has confidence in its leadership in an extraordinary situation due a pandemic. <a href="https://t.co/fwrRDsp0o7">pic.twitter.com/fwrRDsp0o7</a></p>— Nirmala Sitharaman (@nsitharaman) <a href="https://twitter.com/nsitharaman/status/1252877038324613121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Public opinion based approval ratings of world leaders shown in the charts. <a href="https://twitter.com/PMOIndia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PMOIndia</a> leads <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaFightsCorona?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaFightsCorona</a> from the front. Consistent high approval ratings for <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a>. Nation has confidence in its leadership in an extraordinary situation due a pandemic. <a href="https://t.co/fwrRDsp0o7">pic.twitter.com/fwrRDsp0o7</a></p>— Nirmala Sitharaman (@nsitharaman) <a href="https://twitter.com/nsitharaman/status/1252877038324613121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lol

The same man who told the nation of a lockdown a few hours being it went live? People were dying in lines walking long distances.
 
Supporters of a certain leader are having to post survey results and news article to prove how their leader is the best. [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] :inti
 
Not sure about Johnson but our scientific advisers have been a failure. Why would Johnson think it’s ok to go with Herd immunity if the Torys keep arguing that they have been guided by the science from the very beginning?
 
Not sure about Johnson but our scientific advisers have been a failure. Why would Johnson think it’s ok to go with Herd immunity if the Torys keep arguing that they have been guided by the science from the very beginning?

The herd immunity tactic was to get enough people infected so they could then enforce a lockdown after scaring people. Now they are waiting for the economy to weaken enough and for their main supporters the mega rich to become even wealthier.

The virus is real but anyone who thinks the UK government is basing their policies on helping people are deluded. They are helping the rich only and only ever will.
 
lol

The same man who told the nation of a lockdown a few hours being it went live? People were dying in lines walking long distances.
Ignore the lackeys. Their only aim in life is to somehow bring in their god and singing peans for him.
 
lol

The same man who told the nation of a lockdown a few hours being it went live? People were dying in lines walking long distances.
See sorry state of our affairs. Our FM instead of concentrating on our sagging economy, is putting forward approval ratings of her leader. Even Trump isn't as shameless despite 2020 being an election year in US.
 
Indonesia in bad shape!

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Jakarta, Indonesia - With a coronavirus infection rate that has nearly quadrupled since the start of the month, and one of the world's highest mortality rates, Indonesia's response to the pandemic has led to doomsday predictions by infectious disease experts, epidemiologists and data handlers abroad.

President Joko Widodo's original denial of the problem and his current resistance to a blanket lockdown has also sparked a heated debate on social media, with critics posting the hashtag #LockdownOrDie backed by some health experts and politicians.

The president's actions have also raised speculation that the archipelagic nation of 268 million people is secretly pursuing herd immunity without a vaccine - a solution abandoned by the United Kingdom after it was revealed that millions could perish.

"At this point, we can only foresee a dark ending to our pandemic story," wrote The Jakarta Post in an expose that examined herd immunity and other potential endings to Indonesia's coronavirus health emergency.

But a member of the government's taskforce against COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, refuted such claims, offering Al Jazeera detailed up-to-date information on the country's response strategy.

Thousands of Indonesians journey home, despite virus warnings (2:15)
Much of the information is corroborated by documents already released by the taskforce, the Indonesian Disaster Mitigation Agency and the office of the president, but is compressed and easier to understand. The information also provides insight into the politics and ideology behind the government's slow and piecemeal response.

"Indonesia is not pursuing a policy of herd immunity. We understand that will not work as we probably do not have immunity to this virus, which means you can catch it again and again," the source said on condition of anonymity because they are not authorised to speak to the media.

"Those doomsday predictions are not taking into account everything the Indonesian government is doing to get through this."

'Flying a kite'

President Widodo continues to oppose blanket lockdown because he says it would hurt the poor too much in a country where nearly one in 10 people earn less than a dollar a day.

The country currently has 7,135 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 616 people have so far died.

Instead, Widodo has employed a patchwork solution that includes partial lockdowns in COVID-19 hotspots like Jakarta and West Sumatra, while allowing unrestricted movement in places like the Balinese capital Denpasar, where infection rates are seen to be low.

In explaining the government's approach, the source used an old Indonesian metaphor about the life lessons one can learn from kite flying.

"It's like flying a kite. You have to know when to hold the rope and when to let it go," the source said.

"If you don't put in a lockdown, 10 percent of the population could die from coronavirus. But if you do, people will die of starvation. Indonesia can't enforce a lockdown for very long, and we know it could be years until a vaccine is developed.

"So instead we are doing what Vietnam, Japan and Taiwan are doing. They test as many people as we can and if someone has the virus they trace them. If we can get that system going, we won't need a lockdown."

However, the pandemic tallying website Worldometer shows Indonesia has one of the lowest testing rates in the world. Only 184 in every million people in the country have been tested compared with 2,043 for every million in Thailand and 20,629 for every million in Germany.

Indonesia is also suffering from a scarcity of personal protective equipment (PPE). At least 12 Indonesian doctors, including the directors of two hospitals, died after contracting COVID-19 at the workplace, while most health workers around the country are using raincoats as medical gowns.

Earlier this month, Indonesia's COVID-19 taskforce said the scarcity would be addressed by retooling nearly 3,000 garment factories across the country to produce 17 million PPEs.

"We have a very large manufacturing industry that can move very quickly to produce the things we need. Our garment industry is starting to produce hazmat suits," the source said.

"Within one week we will be producing one million face masks per day. Within two weeks [state-owned vaccine maker] Bio Farma will produce its first batch of 4,000 test kits to analyse 100,000 suspected cases. We are working very hard to galvanise all our industries."

The source said Indonesia was also upgrading 132 hospitals, increasing medical salaries and training new staff in pulmonary treatment: "We know this is a problem. Many of our medical staff are not properly trained. It will take another two or three months to do so."

The source also noted several social security measures being introduced to help the 2.8 million Indonesians who had lost their jobs because of the pandemic, according to data supplied by the country's Ministry of Labour.

"Indonesia has come up with a social safety net worth about 110 trillion rupiahs [$7bn]. Many households will not have to pay their electricity bill for three months and if you have trouble paying the mortgage for your house there will be assistance, too.

"There will be tax relief for anyone who earns less than 15 million rupiahs [$1,000] a month, 20 percent company tax relief and VAT [value-added tax] holidays for 19 industries.

"The government is also thinking about people not having enough food. We have opened 12 big food kitchens in Jakarta. People are going to have to stand in line; it won't be easy to enforce social distancing. This is a chaotic country and it won't be perfect. But no one will go hungry."

Catch-22

To examine the efficacy of the strategy outlined by the source, Al Jazeera spoke with several experts in neighbouring Australia, where a blanket lockdown, well-resourced hospitals and generous social security that allows non-essential workers to stay home have flattened the COVID-19 infection curve and kept mortalities low.

John Mathews, a professor of medicine at Melbourne University and former head of Australia's National Centre for Disease Control says partial lockdowns in COVID-19 hotspots do not work, but Indonesia was in a difficult position.

"Indonesia is in a Catch-22; the country is so poor it cannot afford to do a lockdown as Australia can," he said.

"But everything we know about epidemiology says if you are going to stop a disastrous spread, the lockdown has to be complete and you have to start early. People in an enclave can protect themselves by remaining self-isolation as long as they can. But if there is a high frequency of infection outside their enclave, they're still at risk at the end of the day."

Referring to the taskforce's manufacturing objectives for PPEs and ventilators, Indonesia certainly has the capacity, said Ross Taylor, an analyst who has held various board positions in Indonesia and is currently president of The Indonesia Institute, a Perth-based think-tank.

"They have the labour, the buildings, the ingenuity and expertise," he said.

"Indonesia probably is the biggest carmaker in Southeast Asia and its spare parts supply business is quite remarkable. There can manufacture almost anything and do it quickly, especially if things are being driven by the highest level of government.

"But what often delays things in Indonesia is bureaucratic red tape. Corruption and self-interests also sadly always become part of every major project in the country."

Slow to wake

Corruption will probably impede Indonesia's ability to distribute social welfare to help people stay at home suspects Professor Tim Lindsey, director of the Centre for Indonesian Law, Islam and Society at the Melbourne Law School.



"Indonesia has been successful with social welfare subsidies in the past - especially cash payments," he said. "But most of its social welfare programs are vulnerable to corruption as well as to tension between different levels of government that have hampered the delivery of these services in the past."

Lindsey adds that the benefits, most of which are still to be distributed, will come too late.

"It is now adopting measures that have been successfully used in other countries. But rolling it out so late when coronavirus has already spread and partial lockdowns are in place will reduce their impact."

The source at Indonesia's COVID-19 taskforce acknowledged the challenges were formidable.

"We know we have massive problems and the death rate will go higher. We know we are going into the eye of the storm," the source said.

"But one of our strengths is our ability to improvise. Indonesia is like a big animal that takes a long time to get up. But once it starts moving, the animal can move very fast."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...s-response-revealed-late-200422032842045.html
 
Nearly every government have made mistakes, but Imran Khan and his government have proved to be the most incompetent and clueless of the lot.

He has no idea about the nature of the virus, he has flip-flopped a dozen times, he has neglected the warnings and recommendations of doctors and he thinks he looks tough when others around him are wearing masks but he struts around without one.

He might be a “cheetah” as his cult-followers like to call him, but this is no time to act macho.

However, his biggest failure has been his incapability to control the mullahs. The fact that there has been no downright ban on congregational prayers is nothing but an outcome of his weak leadership.

The only thing that he has been right about so far is that a total lockdown would cause severe damage to the country.

However, because of his incompetence, the so-called “smart” lockdown did not work at all. It was actually “dumb” lockdown and his decision of easing restric

The challenge for his cult-followers now is to somehow deflect all his blunders by blaming PMLN and PPP.
 
Dont think anyone as worse than the Brazilian leadership at the moment.
 
Until there is a proven vaccine, we cannot truly judge who has been the worse.

We must look at lives saved versus economy protected. The true picture will be visible after a decade possibly
 
On the ground, Uk has been unnecessarily lethargic in its restrictions and release of restrictions.
 
Brazil's Bolsonaro 'failed' on pandemic response, says climate activist Greta Thunberg

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has failed in managing the coronavirus crisis, teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg has said, a day after a record rise in deaths in the South American nation.

"The Bolsonaro government has definitely failed in tackling the coronavirus pandemic as many other governments have also done," the 17-year-old Swede said on a video conference with journalists.

Brazil's presidency declined to comment. Bolsonaro has fiercely criticised measures to shut down non-essential businesses and keep residents indoors to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus, saying the economic damage being done is worse than the health risk itself.
 
Brazil takes down COVID-19 data, hiding soaring death toll

Brazil has removed from public view months of data on its COVID-19 epidemic, as President Jair Bolsonaro defended delays and changes to official record-keeping of the world's second-largest coronavirus outbreak.

Brazil's Health Ministry removed the data from a website that had documented the epidemic over time and by state and municipality.

The ministry also stopped giving a total count of confirmed cases, which have shot past 672,000 - more than anywhere outside the US - or a total death toll, which passed Italy this week, nearing 36,000 by Saturday.

"The cumulative data ... does not reflect the moment the country is in," Bolsonaro said on Twitter, citing a note from the ministry. "Other actions are under way to improve the reporting of cases and confirmation of diagnoses."

Bolsonaro has downplayed the dangers of the pandemic, replaced medical experts in the health ministry with military officials and argued against state lockdowns, hobbling the country's public health response.
 
The challenge for his cult-followers now is to somehow deflect all his blunders by blaming PMLN and PPP.

And the challenge for cult haters is to explain how Nawaz bhai would have done a better job, no?
 
Bolsonaro, closely followed by Trump.
 
And the challenge for cult haters is to explain how Nawaz bhai would have done a better job, no?

How is that relevant? I haven’t seen a single person who has claimed that Nawaz or anyone else would have handled the situation better than the incumbent Captain Clueless. Whether Nawaz would have done a better or worse job is not an excuse or an explanation for how clueless Imran Khan has been and the blunders that he has made.

His reckless decision to ease restrictions in the last week of Ramzan and his inability to control the mullahs have nothing to do with the performance of the previous governments.
 
XI

As for IK, he started to ease restrictions at the same time as other world leaders. Sweden on the other hand didn't even impose a lockdown initially. The reality is the like of [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] would have used the total number of C19 deaths stat against IK, but he can't do that, so has resorted to wishy washy excuses. As a Doctor, I would expect him to show some data or correlation between ease of lockdown and C19 deaths - not happening for love nor money.

As for the number of deaths worldwide, take it with a pinch of salt. There is a difference between dying of C19 and dying with C19. There have been countless reports that cause of death were incorrectly reported on death certificates (at least in the UK).
 
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As for IK, he started to ease restrictions at the same time as other world leaders. Sweden on the other hand didn't even impose a lockdown initially. The reality is the like of [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] would have used the total number of C19 deaths stat against IK, but he can't do that, so has resorted to wishy washy excuses. As a Doctor, I would expect him to show some data or correlation between ease of lockdown and C19 deaths - not happening for love nor money.

As for the number of deaths worldwide, take it with a pinch of salt. There is a difference between dying of C19 and dying with C19. There have been countless reports that cause of death were incorrectly reported on death certificates (at least in the UK).

If you weren’t sleeping under a rock, you would have realized that the number of cases in Pakistan have risen drastically over the last few weeks and that is a consequence of Imran’s dumb decision to ease restrictions in the last week of Ramzan and not ban Eid prayers.

No one is looking at the total number of deaths or the rate of deaths in general. The key statistic is the number of people who are getting infected per day, and as the number of infected people per day are rising at an alarming rate, the death rate will also increase because the hospitals are running out of capacity.

As I mentioned earlier, doctors admit patients in hospitals based on a rating system. In simple words, if you are COVID positive and your symptoms do not meet a certain rating point, you will not be admitted and will be asked to self-isolate at home.

However, since hospitals do not have endless resources, we have now reached a point where even critical patients are being asked to self-isolate which will lead to increase in death rates over the next few weeks.

Imran eased restrictions at the same time as other world leaders, but in other countries, people do not go crazy with eid shopping in the last week of Ramzan. If you cared to live in Pakistan, you would know that the last week of Ramzan is the busiest week of the year and shops are overloaded with customers.

The fact that Imran either ignored that or labored under the delusion that people would follow the SOPs at that time was an unforgivable mistake which has resulted in this dramatic spike in the number of infections. If you think the huge rise in number of patients over the last few weeks is not because of Imran’s dumb decision to ease restrictions in the last week of Ramzan, what would you attribute it to?

Furthermore, your understanding of COVID-related deaths is expectedly shallow. People who die from COVID fall into two categories: those with underlying health issues and those with none.

The people who have died from COVID without any underlying health issues die because their oxygen saturation levels drop below 60, they are put on ventilators but they do not recover. Then there is another category of deaths where patients have heart problems, cancer etc. whose condition is aggravated because of COVID.

Both are COVID-related deaths and the only distinction is direct and indirect deaths. These are not examples of misreported deaths. An example of misreported death would be a COVID patient dying in a car accident or committing suicide.
 
If you weren’t sleeping under a rock, you would have realized that the number of cases in Pakistan have risen drastically over the last few weeks and that is a consequence of Imran’s dumb decision to ease restrictions in the last week of Ramzan and not ban Eid prayers.

No one is looking at the total number of deaths or the rate of deaths in general. The key statistic is the number of people who are getting infected per day, and as the number of infected people per day are rising at an alarming rate, the death rate will also increase because the hospitals are running out of capacity.

As I mentioned earlier, doctors admit patients in hospitals based on a rating system. In simple words, if you are COVID positive and your symptoms do not meet a certain rating point, you will not be admitted and will be asked to self-isolate at home.

However, since hospitals do not have endless resources, we have now reached a point where even critical patients are being asked to self-isolate which will lead to increase in death rates over the next few weeks.

Imran eased restrictions at the same time as other world leaders, but in other countries, people do not go crazy with eid shopping in the last week of Ramzan. If you cared to live in Pakistan, you would know that the last week of Ramzan is the busiest week of the year and shops are overloaded with customers.

The fact that Imran either ignored that or labored under the delusion that people would follow the SOPs at that time was an unforgivable mistake which has resulted in this dramatic spike in the number of infections. If you think the huge rise in number of patients over the last few weeks is not because of Imran’s dumb decision to ease restrictions in the last week of Ramzan, what would you attribute it to?

Furthermore, your understanding of COVID-related deaths is expectedly shallow. People who die from COVID fall into two categories: those with underlying health issues and those with none.

The people who have died from COVID without any underlying health issues die because their oxygen saturation levels drop below 60, they are put on ventilators but they do not recover. Then there is another category of deaths where patients have heart problems, cancer etc. whose condition is aggravated because of COVID.

Both are COVID-related deaths and the only distinction is direct and indirect deaths. These are not examples of misreported deaths. An example of misreported death would be a COVID patient dying in a car accident or committing suicide.

Read all of this before on the BBC and NHS.

The fact you're back on the forum after 2 months, ridiculling IK, is a testamant to IK's brilliant understanding and handling of the situation, otherwise you'd still be on the battlefield sewing masks.
 
Read all of this before on the BBC and NHS.

The fact you're back on the forum after 2 months, ridiculling IK, is a testamant to IK's brilliant understanding and handling of the situation, otherwise you'd still be on the battlefield sewing masks.
Oh my ignoramus friend, doctors are divided into groups of 5 and each group are on duty on periodic basis. You work for two weeks and then are you given two weeks off because in case you have contracted the virus, you can self-isolate at home.

IK’s brilliant understanding and handling of the situation. :)))
 
Oh my ignoramus friend, doctors are divided into groups of 5 and each group are on duty on periodic basis. You work for two weeks and then are you given two weeks off because in case you have contracted the virus, you can self-isolate at home.

IK’s brilliant understanding and handling of the situation. :)))

2 weeks off then 2 weeks on. Yet you were away for 2 months. Once again you undermine yourself.

You love to provide live commentary on IK etc, but when it came to what actually mattered, you disappeared, while other, real doctors, were constantly providing information, photos, data, while working on the frontline. You on the other hand, did nothing of the sort. It was your chance to show us ignoramous folk a real insight into how the Pakistan goverment handled the situation, instead you read the BBC.
 
The fact that Pakistan becomes the 14th country to cross the 100K mark shows exactly what an amazing job PTI leadership have done.
 
Five countries account for more than half of the world's Covid-19 cases, which now stand at just over seven million, according to the map and dashboard from Johns Hopkins University.

The United States has the highest number of confirmed cases so far - with more than 1.9 million.

With nearly 700,000 cases, Brazil comes second, followed by Russia (467,073), the UK (287,621) and India (257,486).

But testing rates vary widely across these countries - testing availability in the US has improved in recent weeks, but experts say Brazil and India, which have been testing too little, are likely to have far more infections than reported.

Of course, difference in population sizes are important to consider. The US has about 330 million people, while India has more than 1.3 billion. To account for this, researchers also use another metric - confirmed cases per 100,000 people.

By this measure, Peru - with 585 cases - tops the list, followed by the US (579), UK (428), Italy (388) and Russia (311).
 
Earlier on Wednesday, Professor Chris Whitty – the chief medical officer for England – was asked what his biggest regret was in the handling of the pandemic

He said he wished that testing could have been speeded up “very early on” in the outbreak, and mentioned Germany as an example.

In the week ending 4 April, Germany was using 132 laboratories to carrying out an average of 116,655 diagnostic tests for Covid-19 per day.

The total number of tests done by that date was over 1.3 million.

The UK, by contrast, had carried out a total of 316,836 tests by 10 April and didn't hit its target of 100,000 daily tests until the end of that month.

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This shows the incompetence of The English regime and the brilliance of Germany's.
 
Pakistan stands 15th on the list of countries with most cases. However, when it comes to testing Pakistan is ranked at 141 globally. Luckily for us, the mortality rate in the country is very low. Hope it remains that way otherwise we are headed towards a disaster.
 
Bolsonaro is taking the cake here! 1 million for a country is huge that is not that globalized, right wing govns across the world terrible.
 
Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro, has come under fire for failing to pay tribute to the more than 50,000 citizens who have lost their lives to Covid-19, writes Tom Phillips, the Guardian’s Latin America correspondent, in Rio de Janeiro.

Brazil’s official death toll – now the second highest in the world – officially rose above 50,000 on Sunday. On Friday the number of confirmed infections rose above one million, also the second highest total after the US.

But according to the Brazilian media, Bolsonaro – who has repeatedly trivialized the pandemic – was silent about the dead and their families between Friday and Monday.

“Despite the tragic milestones we have reached in the last few days, president Jair Bolsonaro has said nothing … about the victims or the fight against this illness,” the conservative Estado de São Paulo newspaper complained on Monday. “He has also been silent on social media.”

The newspaper said that by ignoring the human toll of the pandemic, Bolsonaro’s government was trying to hide the fact that Covid-19 had now claimed more Brazilian lives than guns did in the whole of 2019.

In a column, Leonardo Sakamoto, a left-wing commentator, attacked Bolsonaro’s “militant denialism”. “But you can’t say he didn’t fight. Bolsonaro has fought, bravely, in the name of coronavirus – and has become known as one of its staunchest defenders in the world,” Sakamoto wrote.

In an editorial, the newspaper O Globo said there was no doubt Bolsonaro bore responsibility for what was still “an unfinished tragedy”. “What is most scary is that, according to WHO officials … Brazil still hasn’t reached the peak of the epidemic.”
 
Brazil's far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, has again called for the easing of lockdown measures and the reopening of shops and businesses, a day after the country became only the second in the world to register more than 50,000 Covid-related deaths.

He said that the way the pandemic had been handled had "maybe been a bit over the top" and that the measures taken to contain it shouldn't be allowed to become more damaging than the pandemic itself.

The president's insistence that the economy should be prioritised has been deeply divisive and two health ministers have left their posts after disagreements with him.

He has also clashed with state governors who have brought in lockdowns.
 
UK's COVID-19 outcome has not been good, mistakes were likely made - chief scientist

Britain has not achieved a good outcome in dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic, the government’s chief scientific adviser said on Thursday, adding that he was sure mistakes had been made.

Britain has the highest COVID-19 death toll in Europe, which, including deaths from suspected cases, is nearly 56,000 according to a Reuters tally of official data sources.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered a lockdown on March 23, though a former member of the government’s scientific advisory group has said that introducing measures a week earlier could have halved the death toll.

“It’s very difficult to know exactly where we stand at the moment. It’s clear that the outcome has not been good in the UK ..,” Patrick Vallance told lawmakers, adding that some countries had done worse.

“There will be things, decisions made, that will turn out not to have been the right decisions at the time, I’m sure about that as well.”

He said the advice to introduce stringent lockdown measures was made when the rate at which the epidemic doubled increased to three days from six or seven days beforehand, but added that such advice could only be given once the data came in.

Heath Secretary Matt Hancock, questioned about Vallance’s assertion that scientific advisers had recommended measures be taken earlier, told lawmakers the lockdown had started on March 16, rather than a week later when Johnson told Britons they must stay at home.

“The 16th of March is the day I came to this House and said all unnecessary social contact should cease,” he said. “That is precisely when the lockdown was started.”

Vallance said there were “pretty strong hints” the new coronavirus was seasonal and could return in future years.

“What we’re dealing with now is a suppressed first wave,” he said. “I think it’s quite probable that we will see this virus coming back in different waves over a number of years.”

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-h...ere-likely-made-chief-scientist-idUKKCN24H28D
 
Considering Pakistan's limited resources and so many uneducated and uncooperative people , Government has done a great job, may be not so great in Sindh tough.

When it comes to the worst job, USA is the undisputed champion.
 
Brazil Bolsonaro's low approval rating improves despite rising COVID-19 cases

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro’s low approval ratings rose for a third consecutive month, a poll showed on Monday, as the perception of his handling of the coronavirus crisis and the economy’s direction continued to improve gradually.

The latest monthly XP/Ipespe poll findings come as the coronavirus-related deaths and cases also continue rising, cementing Brazil’s place as the world’s second-biggest hotspot for the pandemic after the United States.

Bolsonaro’s overall approval rating rose two percentage points to 30% this month, the highest since April, while the share of those who think he is doing a bad or terrible job fell three percentage points to 45%, the lowest since April.

The share of Brazilians disapproving of the far right former army captain’s government has consistently been greater than those who approve since May last year.

According to the nationwide poll, 25% of Brazilians say Bolsonaro’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic is good or excellent, up from 23% last month and the highest since April.

At the same time, 52% said his handling of the crisis is bad or terrible, down from 55% in June and the lowest since April.

One thousand people were surveyed between July 13-15, and the margin of error is 3.2 percentage points.

Brazil has now recorded 2.1 million cases of COVID-19 and almost 80,000 related deaths. Both tallies are the second highest in the world, and continue to rise steadily.

The XP/Ipespe poll also showed that 33% of Brazilians reckon the economy is on the right track, up from 29% in June.

Latin America’s largest economy is widely expected to record its biggest annual downturn in history this year, although central bank and Economy Ministry officials say a range of indicators suggest an encouraging recovery is already underway.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...pite-rising-covid-19-cases-idUKKCN24L2ID?il=0
 
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