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Which of the Prime Ministers, Imran Khan and N Modi, is doing the better job for his country?

Which of the Prime Ministers, Imran Khan and Narendra Modi, is doing the better job for his country?


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Both seem to be active and in the news - lot of supporters and detractors for both but can we compare them?
 
Both seem to be active and in the news - lot of supporters and detractors for both but can we compare them?

IK is handsome and articulate. Modi is a member of a hardline Hindu movement the RSS and doesn't speak English as far as I'm aware, so as an international figure he seems to be very limited.
 
Imran Khan is a great man, not only because of his personality but what he has acheieved outiside of politics. You cannot compare them man to man, it's not even a contest. The only thing in common is both are leaders of their nations.

Imran has been in office just over a year, Modi is in his second term. In this time, Imran has been fighting extremism while Modi has been promoting it. For eveything else we will need more time to compare but I have no doubt if Pakistan keep voting for the likes of Imran and India votes for the likes of Modi, Pakistan will take over India in all aspects apart from military power in the future. But with nukes, it harldly matters who has more troops or tanks.
 
Currently to me because of my dislike for Modi and Shah i would think IK but i have realized its always better to say after 10-15 years who was doing better, so the judgment is reserved for 2035, hopefully someone will bump the thread then.
 
How can this even be a question- IK has worked tirelessly to save the lives of PK and promotes PK at every forum. The other guy was part of the murderous riots which killed his countrymen just because they are a different religion.
 
IK is handsome and articulate. Modi is a member of a hardline Hindu movement the RSS and doesn't speak English as far as I'm aware, so as an international figure he seems to be very limited.

Well, the RSS hardline, Hindi speaking Modi has been getting red carpet welcomes and national honors wherever he goes, including in Muslim countries. No one seems to care for Imran.
So as always, you don't seem to be aware of much.:inti
 
Well, the RSS hardline, Hindi speaking Modi has been getting red carpet welcomes and national honors wherever he goes, including in Muslim countries. No one seems to care for Imran.
So as always, you don't seem to be aware of much.:inti

They want to make money off of you.

Lose that money and see how quickly you will be called 'Apu'.
 
Unless Imran Khan can revive the economy and take ruthless action against the corrupt, bringing back the looted wealth, there won't be a second term, people's patience is now wearing thin
 
Imran has faced a lots of difficulties in his first year and he has failed more often than he has succeeded, but still I think he has done a decent job.

Tax Revenue has increased and it is almost 100% compared to 10-20% during the last government.

CAD has shrank to 43%.

Corrupt leaders have been arrested and held accountable.

He has made NAB an independent department.

Our foreign affairs with Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and USA have improved during his term.

Pakistani Rupee has devalued but I believe it will get stable once the economic reforms will reap it’s rewards.

Keep in mind that Pakistan has also three neighbors which have their own problems:

- Afghanistan and USA issue.

- Kashmir issue.

- and Iran and Saudi Arabia issue.

One thing I’ve noticed when I was in Pakistan is that normal people are losing patience with him because of the “mehngayi”, whilst the rich people are turning against him because of the taxes which he is implying.
 
Modi is a proper leader. He literally climbed up the political ladder from the streets and won by the power of vote.

Imran is a con-artist who never held a public office before being planted as the PM by the military. He has no competency to run the country and PTI’s pathetic performance so far proves it.

He has no credibility because of his u-turns. He plays with people’s emotions and is a populist, but it is clear to see that it is all an act. He has always been a power-hungry narcissist.

He is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes with the military now but we should not forget his comments in the past.

Nonetheless, a disastrous and destructive PM whose fate will be a lesson to him and his cult followers.
 
IK is handsome and articulate. Modi is a member of a hardline Hindu movement the RSS and doesn't speak English as far as I'm aware, so as an international figure he seems to be very limited.

Modi speaks very good English. You need to check his lecture in US a few years back.
 
It doesn't take too much effort to top the dullard that is Modi, but Imran Khan is failing at those stakes as well.

So I would lean towards "both are incompetent".
 
Imran Khan had an extremely tough situation to deal with. With decades of corruption, Pakistan's economy and infrastructure was and still is a mess. Will take him 10 years, two terms at least to change the tide. Modi, took over when India was already in much better shape. So for me IK is doing a better job.

IK also treating every Pakistani and all provinces equally, Modi is favoring Hindus, very obviously.
 
Modi speaks very good English. You need to check his lecture in US a few years back.

Can you provide a link please?

I just did a search for 'Modi speech in English' in google, and it brought up the Howdy Modi speech which was delivered in Hindi in front of a mob of baying Indian ethnics.
 
The only thing this poll shows us is that there are 7 RSS extremists frequenting PP...
 
Imran all the way. He is speaking for the common man on the Pakistan streets. He is expressing just the way they would express. Modi is a fraud. No comparison really.
 
Modi is a proper leader. He literally climbed up the political ladder from the streets and won by the power of vote.

Imran is a con-artist who never held a public office before being planted as the PM by the military. He has no competency to run the country and PTI’s pathetic performance so far proves it.

He has no credibility because of his u-turns. He plays with people’s emotions and is a populist, but it is clear to see that it is all an act. He has always been a power-hungry narcissist.

He is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes with the military now but we should not forget his comments in the past.

Nonetheless, a disastrous and destructive PM whose fate will be a lesson to him and his cult followers.

Proper Leader?

He has to buy out the media to ensure that his image is positive.
 
Modi has led the government 5 times, 3 with state and twice nationally. Whereas Imran has only once, so there arent' be any comparison between both. PP can have all sorts of polls, and have a morale victory..

Modi is doing what he and his party promised in their manifesto with respect with 370, whereas Imran once spoke how, he wanted Modi to be reelected in 2019. On that basics alone, Imran should resign on morale ground..
 
modi is doing great in terms of setting the ball rolling for future sectarian and civil war which is about to erupt.

Not a fan of IK, but he is a real leader a proper leader who climbed the ranks from a noboddy to a celebrity then instead of living off in a comfortable life choose to fight the corruption killing the country and it took him almost 25 years to get to where he is now and he never gave up.
 
Narendra modi at the moment. It’s too early to judge Imran khan on any platform.
And my views are only what he has done for countrymen

changed the perception of India internationally and strengthened relation. Strengthening the economy

Swachh Bharat has really created a revolution. Promoting hygiene and cleanliness. Look at the railways now. Make in india initiatives with metro trains Manufactured in india operating in sydney, trains operating In srilanka now

Internal and external security. Campaigning the cause for climate change with ban of single use plastics and water conservation

Rupay cards that operate in other countries again elevating position of an indian in a foreign country
 
Modi is a proper leader. He literally climbed up the political ladder from the streets and won by the power of vote.

Imran is a con-artist who never held a public office before being planted as the PM by the military. He has no competency to run the country and PTI’s pathetic performance so far proves it.

He has no credibility because of his u-turns. He plays with people’s emotions and is a populist, but it is clear to see that it is all an act. He has always been a power-hungry narcissist.

He is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes with the military now but we should not forget his comments in the past.

Nonetheless, a disastrous and destructive PM whose fate will be a lesson to him and his cult followers.

a proper leader which cant even hold a SINGLE press conference with his indian media, forget the International media.
 
a proper leader which cant even hold a SINGLE press conference with his indian media, forget the International media.

“Empty vessels make the most noise”

Pakistan is a broke country with zero credibility. We are a laughing stock and our international reputation is barely better than Afghanistan and war-torn middle eastern countries.

We are globally recognized as a country that is held hostage by its military.

Obviously Imran Khan has to talk more and present our fictitious narrative to get our away. He needs all the help he can muster.
 
Not even a comparison. One is an honest man who is fighting corruption and putting all efforts to bring peace and progress in the country, while other is just a known banned terrorist who works through fascism.
 
“Empty vessels make the most noise”

Pakistan is a broke country with zero credibility. We are a laughing stock and our international reputation is barely better than Afghanistan and war-torn middle eastern countries.

We are globally recognized as a country that is held hostage by its military.

Obviously Imran Khan has to talk more and present our fictitious narrative to get our away. He needs all the help he can muster.

It's a broke country with no credibility in the eyes of broke personalities with any credibility. Keep up with your whines and poisoning the forums with your ill shares, Imran is here to stay.
 
Both are doing abysmally poor in governance and more importantly in yielding socio economic stability. Just that both have worthless opposition who have been on the state's pension for generations without doing anything substantial in recent history. As such aam admi in respective country have gone with them due to lack of viable alternative. That does not relieve them from accountability for their mishandling of critical stuff.
 
Modi is a proper leader. He literally climbed up the political ladder from the streets and won by the power of vote.

Imran is a con-artist who never held a public office before being planted as the PM by the military. He has no competency to run the country and PTI’s pathetic performance so far proves it.

He has no credibility because of his u-turns. He plays with people’s emotions and is a populist, but it is clear to see that it is all an act. He has always been a power-hungry narcissist.

He is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes with the military now but we should not forget his comments in the past.

Nonetheless, a disastrous and destructive PM whose fate will be a lesson to him and his cult followers.

yet you say that you voted for PTI. and you say that imran khan does not have vote of the people. i guess that makes you sub-human then.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PM Imran Khan met the editorial board of The New York Times and apprised them about the dangers to regional & international peace from the grave situation in occupied Jammu & Kashmir. There is a danger of a bloodbath in occupied Jammu & Kashmir. The world must act to avert this. <a href="https://t.co/y77PvgCtaN">pic.twitter.com/y77PvgCtaN</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial/status/1176889614898008065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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There is a new video of the UNGA dinner. Must watch.

IK is next to Putin chatting away, Modi sat away looking on. :)
 
Modi is a proper leader. He literally climbed up the political ladder from the streets and won by the power of vote.

Imran is a con-artist who never held a public office before being planted as the PM by the military. He has no competency to run the country and PTI’s pathetic performance so far proves it.

He has no credibility because of his u-turns. He plays with people’s emotions and is a populist, but it is clear to see that it is all an act. He has always been a power-hungry narcissist.

He is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes with the military now but we should not forget his comments in the past.

Nonetheless, a disastrous and destructive PM whose fate will be a lesson to him and his cult followers.

https://youtu.be/brqIgrR_OlE

Proper leader you said? One can only face-palm on such a naive comment.
 
Imran Khan is tenacious for sure, but his main test is improving his economy. No country in the world will give any importance to IK or Pakistan while they keep borrowing money from everybody & their grandmother.. Being morally right gets you nowhere in the world - we know India was morally right after 26/11 attacks but they couldn’t do zilch as they had no financial or political clout. Now the tables have turned & its Pakistan’s turn to build up the economic & political clout to challenge India.
 
Imran Khan is tenacious for sure, but his main test is improving his economy. No country in the world will give any importance to IK or Pakistan while they keep borrowing money from everybody & their grandmother.. Being morally right gets you nowhere in the world - we know India was morally right after 26/11 attacks but they couldn’t do zilch as they had no financial or political clout. Now the tables have turned & its Pakistan’s turn to build up the economic & political clout to challenge India.

1. National security always no.1 even for 3rd world nations.
2.India was not morally correct after Mumbai attacks because they had nothing to do with Pakistan.
3. IK and PTI have been working their backsides off fixing the economy, please keep up.
 
We need to understand that Modi inherited a country that was in a much better economic condition where as our Pak was a mess when IK became PM. Modi is a terrorist, racist and hater of minorities who has taken his country on the brink of a civil war. Imran Khan despite his many political short comings is trying to make Pak self dependent. He has a vision for the country and a good relationship with the military that bothers many countries. Imran Khan's philosophy is "short time pain will lead to long time gain" much like a newly elected Football manager who is trying to build a new team. Not that they will admit it but many Indians must be dying a million times seeing their idiotic and incredibly embarrassing PM making speeches at the UN:))):))):)))
 
Either you detest Modi/Imran or adore Modi /Imran. They bring out polarized views on many things..

It is tough to be a neutral to look into their policies.

Both have charisma and ability to pull people for a cause, it is not easy to fill up a 30,000 crowd in Washignton or 50,000+ crowd in Houston.

Both have started their career with passion for a cause, Modi with strong social work with RSS and Imran after cricket worked towards a cancer hospital..

Both have leanings over fundamentalism, Modi with RSS background and Imran with Islam ideology..

Both have a perception of clean image – no major headlines on corruption/scandal on them..
Both are looked as saviors of their country by their followers..

With Modi, he has a track record of 3 times chief minister, with people voting him back to power, and also wining the prime ministerial election again shows atleast people appreciation of his good work..

While Imran Khan have won power just a year back, is yet to face people on his performance..

With Modi, he has taken a lot of strong and bold measures like demonetization, GST / bankruptcy code, striking off non-filing companies and many more.. However the verdict of his actions on economy is still not out..

While Imran too has brought reforms, it is more out of compulsion than a clear thought out process..
With my reading of Pak newspapers over last 20 years, tells me, Imran come out as sincere person
and is more like Gen.Musharaff in the initial years.

However, Imran does not seems to have freedom like Modi..

On the negatives, Modi comes off like a bigot, narcissist while
Imran comes off like a loose mouth and exhibits lack of clarity in approach.. He is more like, let us try this option, and see whether it works or not..
In conclusion, I believe both have their country interest in heart and will do course corrections when things go wrong .
On the question, who is doing better for the economy, definitely Modi has done a lot in killing black economy.
The issue is black economy functions as a lubricant in an inefficient economic system. Killing it abruptly will have its own side effects unless you correct and streamline bureaucracy, tax reforms etc.,
However, on tax compliance and structural changes his work will definitely bring rewards for the Indian economy in the future.

For Imran, his hands are tied and he is restrained by IMF/lenders and he needs to be maverick to bring a change..
Is he delivering on that ? No. In 1991, India faced with similar situations with minority government, PV NArashimha Rao has set India on a path to glory with bold economic reforms..

Imran is yet to do something..
So, at the moment, Modi is a winner here..
 
How can you compare achievements of a PM who only had just over a year to clear the mess left by past bad governance and a country almost bankrupt, with someone who has settled in in his second term already, taking over a country that was not in a bad state economically as Pakistan was ?
 
How can you compare achievements of a PM who only had just over a year to clear the mess left by past bad governance and a country almost bankrupt, with someone who has settled in in his second term already, taking over a country that was not in a bad state economically as Pakistan was ?

True. It is definitely a challenging tasks and it needs - fresh thinking and you have to think out of box for solutions.. when faced similar situations India cancelled licencing process and freed lot of sectors from government clutches.. it abolished excise duties and allowed free import of capital goods, free floating of forex and aggresive devaluation of INR and so on.. We are yet to see bold moves from him... PVN did went for such bold reforms within one year of his power in a minority government , when the country was on verge of bankruptcy.
 
Too early to comment on Imran, he needs to be given at least one full term sans interruption. From my basic knowledge about Pak politics and economy, sociology he hasn't set the stage on fire yet. Might be an improvement over the Sharifs and Zardaris but always easier to govern from opposition than as PM. Let us wait and observe how he develops. Modi is having a negative influence on this side of the border, he and his party of goons are taking India backwards. So even if Imran is a zero, tough to lose to someone who is negative. Indo-Pak warriors may celebrate over these trivial comparisons but we have low standards. If our leaders can't take our nations forward what use is this showboating? Will Pak based PPers be happy if their PM is better than the Indian counterpart as long as their country doesn't show tangible improvement? Also a point to note why Indians don't want to compare with China or Pakistanis with Turkey/Indonesia. If your competition is weak, you will become weak.
 
There is a new video of the UNGA dinner. Must watch.

IK is next to Putin chatting away, Modi sat away looking on. :)

I think that is not from UNGA dinner man, an earlier video perhaps. Putin has skipped this session as per Al Jazeera and many other outlets, he is in Moscow right now with Maduro.

Skipping UNGA, Putin and Maduro hold talks in Russia
Venezuelan president heads to Moscow for talks with Russian counterpart, a key ally in his country's political crisis.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/skipping-unga-putin-maduro-hold-talks-russia-190925061418590.html
 
Insulting Khan to compare with Modi.

Modi can only give to interview to the likes of Akshay Kumar to talk about how he bite on that Mangoes.
 
Post #45 has corrected me but the point remains as you can see in the Video. A bit strange for Putin to be sitting next to IK and having a joke while his main arms buyers is away and looking lonely?

As you know how pakistani media tried to big this up. Lol. This is old video from SCO meet.

Then pak media posted fake news of Imran being invited to Vladivostok.

Fyi Putin just awarded Modi with Russias highest award. Looking lonely.
 
It is Modi without a doubt. Not by dint of personality but by being the right man for a time when nations operate as companies with CEOs and need a constant flow of FDI. All social programs for upliftment and empowerment are dependent on how attractive an investment destination the nation is.

Imran Khan would have been a great leader for Pakistan and the world had he been Prime Minister a few decades back. Like Kemal Ataturk, he has a charismatic personality, compassion for minorities and has the ability to infuse in people, pride for the nation. His skills, which could have catapulted Pakistan into the league of Turkey & Singapore, are relevant but not as significant as the shrewd sales & marketing skills that Modi exhibits.

By making India’s story an economic one rather than a political one, Modi has taken the path of least resistance and least offence. He shows good numbers and good performance graphs and gets the support of the people who actually run the world - the bankers and economists. His Bloomberg speech and interview is a great study of ‘nation marketing’ and could easily be interpreted as a CEO summit than a political leadership summit.

Imran Khan is still playing Pakistan’s story as a political one. The problem is that, the world has moved on from win-loss outcomes to win-win outcomes. Therefore, the focus on bilateral dialogue to resolve, move on and focus on the more important things i.e. economic development.

The UN and other leaders only have the bandwidth to take on 2 to 3 crises at the same time. With Syria, Iran and Afghanistan, their hands are full. If Pakistan wants to continue playing the political story, the best bet is Afghanistan - it is an opportunity to bring peace and become the de facto mediator between the West and Islamic nations. Imran mentioned that Trump had requested him to mediate with Iran as well. If Pakistan can project itself as a liberal and modern Muslim nation with credibility and goodwill to negotiate between states, it can take on an indispensable role that will have economic rewards as well. Imran Khan would do a great deal of justice to that role and could still turn out to be an Ataturk for these times.
 
Either you detest Modi/Imran or adore Modi /Imran. They bring out polarized views on many things..

It is tough to be a neutral to look into their policies.

Both have charisma and ability to pull people for a cause, it is not easy to fill up a 30,000 crowd in Washignton or 50,000+ crowd in Houston.

Both have started their career with passion for a cause, Modi with strong social work with RSS and Imran after cricket worked towards a cancer hospital..

Both have leanings over fundamentalism, Modi with RSS background and Imran with Islam ideology..

Both have a perception of clean image – no major headlines on corruption/scandal on them..
Both are looked as saviors of their country by their followers..

With Modi, he has a track record of 3 times chief minister, with people voting him back to power, and also wining the prime ministerial election again shows atleast people appreciation of his good work..

While Imran Khan have won power just a year back, is yet to face people on his performance..

With Modi, he has taken a lot of strong and bold measures like demonetization, GST / bankruptcy code, striking off non-filing companies and many more.. However the verdict of his actions on economy is still not out..

While Imran too has brought reforms, it is more out of compulsion than a clear thought out process..
With my reading of Pak newspapers over last 20 years, tells me, Imran come out as sincere person
and is more like Gen.Musharaff in the initial years.

However, Imran does not seems to have freedom like Modi..

On the negatives, Modi comes off like a bigot, narcissist while
Imran comes off like a loose mouth and exhibits lack of clarity in approach.. He is more like, let us try this option, and see whether it works or not..
In conclusion, I believe both have their country interest in heart and will do course corrections when things go wrong .
On the question, who is doing better for the economy, definitely Modi has done a lot in killing black economy.
The issue is black economy functions as a lubricant in an inefficient economic system. Killing it abruptly will have its own side effects unless you correct and streamline bureaucracy, tax reforms etc.,
However, on tax compliance and structural changes his work will definitely bring rewards for the Indian economy in the future.

For Imran, his hands are tied and he is restrained by IMF/lenders and he needs to be maverick to bring a change..
Is he delivering on that ? No. In 1991, India faced with similar situations with minority government, PV NArashimha Rao has set India on a path to glory with bold economic reforms..

Imran is yet to do something..
So, at the moment, Modi is a winner here..

Brilliant post..hats off..
 
Modi ji of course. He is solving the country's problems by travelling abroad and telling the world there is no problem in the country.
 
Modi ji of course. He is solving the country's problems by travelling abroad and telling the world there is no problem in the country.

:D

He is doing what he has been told to do - Indians love him and that's all that matters.
 
Imran khan started long way behind the starting line due to idoits in power before him but he is gaining serious ground...

poor mental midgets who blame Pak and islam all the time really deserve our prayers .. (not talking abt non-pakistanies here, ofcourse they have to look from their perspective)
 
Can’t compare someone who assumed power last year vs someone who has been the PM for 5.5 years.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the greatest golfer <a href="https://twitter.com/garyplayer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@garyplayer</a>’s message for &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; PM Imran Khan <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a>. <a href="https://t.co/klQO8kvDrk">pic.twitter.com/klQO8kvDrk</a></p>— Usama Qureshi (@UsamaQureshy) <a href="https://twitter.com/UsamaQureshy/status/1178780882821423105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Legendary golfer, Gary Player sent a heartfelt video message for Prime Minister Imran Khan where he called him one of his heroes and compared him with South Africa’s revolutionary leader Nelson Mandela.

Player said that he has been following his leadership and wished that he had the words of William Shakespeare or Winston Churchill to give him the credit he deserved.

“You are one of my heroes as Nelson Mandela was,” said Player, who is considered to be one of the best golfers of all time. “I used to cry every time I saw him [Mandela] because of his great forgiveness.”

The former South African golfer extended his best wishes for Pakistan’s Premier and said he is proud of what he is doing in his region.

“May ALLAH be with you all the time and God bless you my friend,” he said. “I know you have many challenges and you need at least two years, I would imagine, to send your message across, but until then ALLAH-O-AKBAR.”

Player, during his glorious career, has won nine major championships on the regular tour and nine major championships on the Champions Tour. At the age of 29, he was the youngest Career Grand Slam winning player of his era, though later Jack Nicklaus (26) and Tiger Woods (24) broke his record


https://arysports.tv/you-one-my-heroes-player-sends-message-pm-khan/
 
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No one is equivalent to Nelson Mandela no one, the guy is the greatest leader ever.
 
I chose both.

Imran because Pakistan finally have a leader with honest intentions who genuinely cares about his countrymen. Though he is helped by the fact that previous Pakistani leaders had set the bar so low that even something as basic as presenting the Pakistani narrative at the world stage must feel a big win to the Pakistanis.

Modi because he's not afraid to take bold steps (Article 370). They may or may not work as intended, but he doesn't play it safe and takes actions which he believes are in the long-term interests of the country even if they come at the risk of short-term pain/electoral losses.

The general mood of the Indian public for years had been in favor of revoking 370 and opening up Kashmir for settlement. Yet Congress (and even Vajpayee) leaders elected before him choose to play the politically safe option of maintaining the status quo.

You can criticize him on the economy (as you can do for Imran too) but remember, cyclical ups and down will continue under any PM. No one will remember the slowdown in growth today 50 years from now, but if the Kashmir gamble works (or God forbid backfires), people will definitely remember him for that.
 
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