Which players are likely to be the heroes in ICC World Cup 2023 semis and final?

[mikeypbadana86]

I am yet to find a match winning performance in knock outs which comes close to aravinda desilvas 1996 heroic in semi final and final. He scored counter attacking 66 against India with SL batting first. He single handedly won the final against Aus, chasing 241.

who would be your picks in crunch knock out matches from India/PAK and other potential contenders in semis.

From India.
1) Kohli . Post his come back, his calmness and self awareness with no ego ( Earlier it used to be, I score because I am kohli kindaa attitude) is remarkable accounting for human effort but result not being in control. if India goes to semis , i believe Kohli will play a key role. with preassure off capataincy removed, he is looking lot more calmer and relaxed.

2) Pandya may fire in one of semis/finals. Panday is lot matured than his 2019 brain fade semis. He threw it away in 2019 semis against NZ. He is bowling well and is in good rhythm now . Pandya may come to the party


Bowlers: Siraj who can run through an oppotions

From Pakistan:

Babar: His technique and assuredness at crease with batting friendly conditions may just well be the right platform for him to explode in semis/finals

Iftikhar: Great temperment and passion. plays well against pace and spin. Hugely underrated but tempermentally strong

Bowlers: Shaheen can do what peak wasim did in 1992.


From England:
Ben stokes, easily the best all rounder and mentally the toughest. He may repeat his 2019 heroics

Bowlers: Adil rashid's legspin can come very handy. he has guile and skill.


From srilanka:

kusal mendis - reminds me of jayawardane.
bowlers: pathiraana

 

[kron]

When has kohli ever scored in KO??

Anyway I agree with the rest. Bumrah is a choker though so you correctly picked siraj.

As for us, shaheen babar and rizwan I believe can step up in semis and finals.

Iftikar being good va pace is a myth however. Every time I see him try and play pace he has been poor.

 

[Devadwal]

When has kohli ever scored in KO??

Anyway I agree with the rest. Bumrah is a choker though so you correctly picked siraj.

As for us, shaheen babar and rizwan I believe can step up in semis and finals.

Iftikar being good va pace is a myth however. Every time I see him try and play pace he has been poor.

Check Kohli innings against South Africa in 2014 world t20 semifinals .

 

[BouncerGuy]

For me, I will really be looking forward to seeing these player's performances if they are in the semis.
Virat Kohli
shaheen and Babar
Starc
Dawid Malan

 

[kron]

Check Kohli innings against South Africa in 2014 world t20 semifinals .

Odi.

 

[Devadwal]

Odi.

2011 World Cup final and 2013 Champion trophy Final Both innings have more impact then hundreds runs as they were come at crucial time for India to become champion .

 

[kron]

2011 World Cup final and 2013 Champion trophy Final Both innings have more impact then hundreds runs as they were come at crucial time for India to become champion .

Chamoions trophy don't mean much. In odi he has been an utter failure since 2011.

Even in 2011 it was like a 35 run knock nothing special. Gambier and Dhoni did the hard yards.

 

[Devadwal]

Chamoions trophy don't mean much. In odi he has been an utter failure since 2011.

Even in 2011 it was like a 35 run knock nothing special. Gambier and Dhoni did the hard yards.

First T20 then Champion trophy what next doesn't matter for fan's like you??

 

[kron]

First T20 then Champion trophy what next doesn't matter for fan's like you??

T20 in the grand scheme of things is well below odi world cup, tests and then champions trophy. Followed by t20 and Asian cup. It's insignificant.

To be a legend you need to excel in odi world cup and tests. Kohli has failed consistently since 2011 in odi world cups.

 

[ChTab]

From Pakistan:

Babar: His technique and assuredness at crease with batting friendly conditions may just well be the right platform for him to explode in semis/finals

Iftikhar: Great temperment and passion. plays well against pace and spin. Hugely underrated but tempermentally strong

Bowlers: Shaheen can do what peak wasim did in 1992.

Seriously Babar?? This guy was the reason we lost WT20 semi-final vs Aus & the WT20 final vs Eng. If Pak does reach semi's or final by a miracle then I wish Babar would get injured for 2 weeks so that we can play a knockout match with 11 players instead of 10.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Seriously Babar?? This guy was the reason we lost WT20 semi-final vs Aus & the WT20 final vs Eng. If Pak does reach semi's or final by a miracle then I wish Babar would get injured for 2 weeks so that we can play a knockout match with 11 players instead of 10.

How can he be the reason for all these loses? Drop catches, poor fielding, poor batting performances from other players. It is not just the team of babar azam, 10 other guys are there to play so it is their duty as well to perform in crunch situations.

 

[ChTab]

Oh really, let's look at the semi final vs Aus he made 39 runs on 34 balls in a semi final, Fakhar made 55 on 32 balls which helped us to reach the target,his mate Rizwan who is alsoe loved by deluded fans played at a SR of 128 rest of the team played 4 balls in total, Rizwan inns was also bad but not as poor as Babar's. If you're talking about that dropped catch by Hassan Ali then Babar is also responsible for playing him despite him being the weakest link in our bowling attack Babar kept playing him & even in the semi's Babar chose to complete his quota despite going for plenty instead he should have given the ball to Imad who bowled quite well in his 3 overs. So yes Babar as the batter & then the captain is the reason we lost that semi against Aus.


Now let's talk about WC Final vs Eng. Babar played the highest number of balls from Pakistan side but played at a SR of just 114.28 in the freaking final of the WC alongside his best buddy who played the similar match losing knock of 15 on 14 balls. Him & Rizwan were responsible for the loss in that WC final.

 

[ChTab]

How can he be the reason for all these loses? Drop catches, poor fielding, poor batting performances from other players. It is not just the team of babar azam, 10 other guys are there to play so it is their duty as well to perform in crunch situations.

Oh really, let's look at the semi final vs Aus he made 39 runs on 34 balls in a semi final, Fakhar made 55 on 32 balls which helped us to reach the target,his mate Rizwan who is alsoe loved by deluded fans played at a SR of 128 rest of the team played 4 balls in total, Rizwan inns was also bad but not as poor as Babar's. If you're talking about that dropped catch by Hassan Ali then Babar is also responsible for playing him despite him being the weakest link in our bowling attack Babar kept playing him & even in the semi's Babar chose to complete his quota despite going for plenty instead he should have given the ball to Imad who bowled quite well in his 3 overs. So yes Babar as the batter & then the captain is the reason we lost that semi against Aus.





Now let's talk about WC Final vs Eng. Babar played the highest number of balls from Pakistan side but played at a SR of just 114.28 in the freaking final of the WC alongside his best buddy who played the similar match losing knock of 15 on 14 balls. Him & Rizwan were responsible for the loss in that WC final.


Still if you think he was not the reason & the 10 other guys were then you're deluded af & there's no cure for being delusional.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Oh really, let's look at the semi final vs Aus he made 39 runs on 34 balls in a semi final, Fakhar made 55 on 32 balls which helped us to reach the target,his mate Rizwan who is alsoe loved by deluded fans played at a SR of 128 rest of the team played 4 balls in total, Rizwan inns was also bad but not as poor as Babar's. If you're talking about that dropped catch by Hassan Ali then Babar is also responsible for playing him despite him being the weakest link in our bowling attack Babar kept playing him & even in the semi's Babar chose to complete his quota despite going for plenty instead he should have given the ball to Imad who bowled quite well in his 3 overs. So yes Babar as the batter & then the captain is the reason we lost that semi against Aus.


Now let's talk about WC Final vs Eng. Babar played the highest number of balls from Pakistan side but played at a SR of just 114.28 in the freaking final of the WC alongside his best buddy who played the similar match losing knock of 15 on 14 balls. Him & Rizwan were responsible for the loss in that WC final.

SO you want him to get injured for 2 weeks so we can win the world cup? If it is possible and you can guarantee 100 percent that we will win without him in the team, I am totally fine with this idea bro.

 

[ChTab]

SO you want him to get injured for 2 weeks so we can win the world cup? If it is possible and you can guarantee 100 percent that we will win without him in the team, I am totally fine with this idea bro.

Yes, if Pak does qualify for semi's or final I want the team to play with 11 players instead of 10 & that's only happening if the Number 1 player is not playing. Obviously, there's no guarantee that Pak will win but at least they will play with 11 players instead of 10 & they might even win.

 

[Mesozoic]

David Warner
Shubman Gill
Jonny Bairstow
Kuldeep Yadav
Mitchell Starc

 

[Devadwal]

Gill
Babar Azam
M. Marsh
MAkram
Stokes
D.Mitchell

 

[shamaan]

I am looking forward to Abdullah Shafique if he plays in the xi.

 

[Devadwal]

I am looking forward to Abdullah Shafique if he plays in the xi.

Don't think he will Play ahead of Imam and Fakhar unless both are not available due to injury or any reason

 

[hitthestump]

Babar isn’t really a crunch performer but I back him to do well in the group stages.

I anticipate Shadab will step up actually. He always bowls horribly in bilaterals and then finds his groove in ICC tournaments. On these pitches he could be pretty handy. I hope for Pakistans sake that this happens.

 

[hassan918]

It is a bit early to say since we don't know the top 4 but let's assume India, England, Pakistan and Australia will make it to the semi-finals. For India Shubhman Gill and Hardik Pandya would be my picks. For England, I would pick Ben Stokes. For Pakistan, I would pick Mohammad Rizwan, and for Australia I would pick Travis Head.

 

[mikeypbadana86]

When has kohli ever scored in KO??

Anyway I agree with the rest. Bumrah is a choker though so you correctly picked siraj.

As for us, shaheen babar and rizwan I believe can step up in semis and finals.

Iftikar being good va pace is a myth however. Every time I see him try and play pace he has been poor.

22 year kohli scored a 35 in 2011 world cup final against Srilanka which was acknowledged by dhoni as crucial partnership with gambhir

2013 champions trophy final , rain curtailed kohli top scored


2014 t20 semis against SA and finals,against SL 2016 virtual quarter final knock out against AUS an other knock against west indies in semis

His notable failures 2015 semis chasing 330 odd against AUS and 2019 semis against NZ.

 

[mikeypbadana86]

Chamoions trophy don't mean much. In odi he has been an utter failure since 2011.

Even in 2011 it was like a 35 run knock nothing special. Gambier and Dhoni did the hard yards.

Disagree. Imagine inzamam or ijazj Ahmed doing the same in 1996 quarter final against India, instead they lost their wickets in no time putting huge pressure on PAK in a match they were cruising with 112/1 in 15 overs chasing 289 .

 

[mikeypbadana86]

Contrary to what fans expect, knock out performances are one world cup out of every 4 .

Aravind played 5..his came in 1996

Inzamam played 5 his came in 1992

Wasim played his came in 1992

Steve Waugh played 4 his notable came in 1999 super 6 must win against SA

I think kohli will do this time .....babar too can !

 

[mikeypbadana86]

Add dhoni ...played 4 his came in 2011.

 

[kron]

Contrary to what fans expect, knock out performances are one world cup out of every 4 .

Aravind played 5..his came in 1996

Inzamam played 5 his came in 1992

Wasim played his came in 1992

Steve Waugh played 4 his notable came in 1999 super 6 must win against SA

I think kohli will do this time .....babar too can !

Maybe. Kohli was clutch pre 2013. Since then all went downhill.

 

[kron]

If kohli does perform this time he would undoubtedly go down as one of the greatest in odi.

 

[BouncerGuy]

If kohli does perform this time he would undoubtedly go down as one of the greatest in odi.

He already is one the greatest players of all time.

 

[kron]

He already is one the greatest players of all time.

I mean he could make world 11 of all time list. He is a great player but he is not yet in the greatest 11. He needs to perform in KOs.

 

[mikeypbadana86]

Srilanka bundled out for 50 with cloud cover in subcontient . It was so unfortunate the SF against NZ in 2019 was rained off and went to reserve day.

Kohlis dismissal was umpires call on DRS with Ball barely clipping the bails still a knock out failure .

If there is no rain around in knock outs, I am backing kohli to score in semis or finals for sure. Albeit t20 he did an impossible having been out of form for ages in 2022 t20. The reason for my belief thag he would score this time, his lofted extra cover/long on /long off and cow corner risty shots are back . He looks calmer and relaxed. I think he will
Unlike sachin, Kohlis big match temperament is better

Young babar in 2019 scored a century in must win group matches against NZ. I see no reason why he can't do it going a step further specially in knock outs.

Keeping my fingers crossed .