Which side do you support in the current political turmoil in Pakistan?

[KingKhanWC]

I think its important for everyone interested in Pakistan to have a civilised discussion on their views to explain reasons why you support a certain political party, figure or armed forces.

I support Imran Khan and the party he founded PTI.

Reasons.

1. Imran is well known to all, his life is not a hidden book.

2. Imran is the greatest sporting hero in Pakistan.

3. Imran is one of the greatest philanthropists in Pakistan history, helping millions.

4. Imran in his tenure as PM continue to help the people in so many ways.

5. Imran as PM stood up the imperialist US/Western Empire.

6. I agree with Imran's foreign policy views.

7. Not a SINGLE drone attack took place while Imran was PM.

8. I admire Imran's strong faith in the Almighty.

9. I admire Imran's faith in Pakistan.

10. There is NOBODY better in Pakistan atm to be leader.

If you criticise others, you must also explain who you would prefer and why you think they are better. Otherwise imo, you have no credibility.

 

[ElRaja]

i lean towards imran and the PTI, but that does not discount the fact that he made a load of blunders in managing the personnel within his party and failed to put in place a realistic succession policy. his opponents know the day he is no longer part of the picture his party is dead, in a country beset by dynastic politics Imran paid far too little attention to ensuring the survival of his own party beyond himself.

even your OP is all about Imran, whilst i do not disagree with your points, that's not how real long term change happens. the party must be larger than the person because the timescales on which real change occurs are longer than leadership tenures, otherwise you veer into despotism and tyranny, no matter no noble the initial objectives of a movement are.

but yes, imran and the PTI, because the rest are just slimey leeches sucking the country dry of any life.

 

[Major]

When populism breeds the other sides opinion view doesnt matter, as the generilization has already been done oh he supports evil. And if one cant prove his point than they start getting personal by saying he benefits from corruption, or that his dead dad was corrupt, or he got personal favors, even though the accusing posters dont know zilch about anything about the other poster.

So plz, this thread is another topi drama that starts off with the pseudo concern on wanting to know other sides view, but will end up the same way like all the political threads have.

Now many will make conclusion im diverting because they will assume I am wrong thats why.

 

[KingKhanWC]

When populism breeds the other sides opinion view doesnt matter, as the generilization has already been done oh he supports evil. And if one cant prove his point than they start getting personal by saying he benefits from corruption, or that his dead dad was corrupt, or he got personal favors, even though the accusing posters dont know zilch about anything about the other poster.

So plz, this thread is another topi drama that starts off with the pseudo concern on wanting to know other sides view, but will end up the same way like all the political threads have.

Now many will make conclusion im diverting because they will assume I am wrong thats why.

This is not making any sense to me.

Please let us know WHO do you support? One name will do.

 

[KingKhanWC]

i lean towards imran and the PTI, but that does not discount the fact that he made a load of blunders in managing the personnel within his party and failed to put in place a realistic succession policy. his opponents know the day he is no longer part of the picture his party is dead, in a country beset by dynastic politics Imran paid far too little attention to ensuring the survival of his own party beyond himself.

even your OP is all about Imran, whilst i do not disagree with your points, that's not how real long term change happens. the party must be larger than the person because the timescales on which real change occurs are longer than leadership tenures, otherwise you veer into despotism and tyranny, no matter no noble the initial objectives of a movement are.

but yes, imran and the PTI, because the rest are just slimey leeches sucking the country dry of any life.

I would agree if Imran joined a party but he created it. The original founder will always be the biggest asset to the party but overall yes, the party should be bigger than any one person.

I dont think we are in any sort of position to worry about the long term change. When PTI was in power, they were laying down foundations for long term change but need at least 3 terms minimum to make a lasting change.

For this topic, I dont see any other option. I wish there was another person with Imrans integrity as good opposition is healthy and needed for change.

Now we have only these choices.

PMLN - PPP - Army rule or PTI.

Im finding it difficult to understand reasons why some would not choose PTI, its a no brainer.

 

[rickroll]

I'm among the apathetic few. I may have leaned towards PTI if IK had built a good rung of next level leaders and a meritocracy based party system. But sadly he did not so it will devolve into the PDM, PPP type farce after Imran's time.

I want to be on the side of the people - good democracy, meritocracy based system, less religious extremism, less military tampering on democratic processes, investments in medicine and education, semblance of equal attention for Swat, Baluchistan or basically any non-Punjab dominated areas, more hope and opportunities for Pakistan's youth ... sadly none of the leadership seems to deliver any of this.

Majority of the political debates here and other places devolve into critiquing whose side is the worse choice. Thinking out loud as I type ... a clean reboot of all stakeholders is an awesome choice but not practically possible. So I guess we are stuck with all of these clowns pulling at Pakistan from their respective ends.

 

[MenInG]

It's very obvious who people support here. Some try and be clever about it and some are open.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's very obvious who people support here. Some try and be clever about it and some are open.

I assume ALL would care about Pakistan and have their reasons which would be interesting to hear.

Maybe you, I and others who support PTI/IK are wrong?

 

[Stewie]

Its a no brainer.. one side is fulll of thugs and crooks and tge other side is PTI.

 

[sweep_shot]

As an outsider, I support PTI and Imran Khan. Rest seem way too corrupt. Imran at least has integrity.