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Which side will win the 10th September Asia Cup 2023 clash between Pakistan and India?

Which side will win the 10th September Asia Cup 2023 clash between Pakistan and India?

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Rain will win.

No chance of any match in Colombo, 95% chance of thunderstorms.

Tomorrow will be the last game of the Asia Cup.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Rain will win.

No chance of any match in Colombo, 95% chance of thunderstorms.

Tomorrow will be the last game of the Asia Cup.
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i think they will change the location for rest of the matches. else whole Asia Cup will get ruined.
 
Weather on Sunday

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On 2nd Sept, Indian top order was playing cricket after long time. Rohit and Kohli was batting first time in ODIs since March. So our top order looked undercooked. Players like Kishan and Pandya who are playing regular cricket lookes good.

The situation will be very different on 10th. Our top order will be much better prepared. I know likes of Shaheen and Naseem are very good but people assuming they will simply come and knock out stumps of Indian top order every game is waiting for a reality check.

I fully expect India to bounce back in that game.
 
Rajdeep said:
On 2nd Sept, Indian top order was playing cricket after long time. Rohit and Kohli was batting first time in ODIs since March. So our top order looked undercooked. Players like Kishan and Pandya who are playing regular cricket lookes good.

The situation will be very different on 10th. Our top order will be much better prepared. I know likes of Shaheen and Naseem are very good but people assuming they will simply come and knock out stumps of Indian top order every game is waiting for a reality check.

I fully expect India to bounce back in that game.
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But they have done that before also.

This is an ongoing issue for Indian top order, not a new one.
 
MenInG said:
But they have done that before also.

This is an ongoing issue for Indian top order, not a new one.
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Sir there are multiple factors behind it. First, there is no denying that Pakistan bowling is absolutely top bowling side. But bccoz Indian batters don't face them regularly, there is a mystic factor behind it. Even KL Rahul said the same last year after Naseem Shah humiliated him. All they hear throughout the year from media is - Shaheen afridi is coming for you, Naseem Shah and Rauf will knock you etc etc. So that fear factor plays a huge part.

From 2nd match, the equation changes a bit and players play more freely.
 
It's true that facing a strong and unfamiliar bowling attack can create a sense of uncertainty and even fear among batsmen. In the context of international cricket, where teams from different countries face each other less frequently than in domestic or league competitions, there can be a mystique surrounding bowlers from certain nations. This mystique can be fueled by media hype and public perception, as you mentioned.
Rajdeep said:
Sir there are multiple factors behind it. First, there is no denying that Pakistan bowling is absolutely top bowling side. But bccoz Indian batters don't face them regularly, there is a mystic factor behind it. Even KL Rahul said the same last year after Naseem Shah humiliated him. All they hear throughout the year from media is - Shaheen afridi is coming for you, Naseem Shah and Rauf will knock you etc etc. So that fear factor plays a huge part.

From 2nd match, the equation changes a bit and players play more freely.
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Let all the games be a wash out, imagine the pressure on Kohli, Rohit and Gill if the next time they play us is during the WC.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Let all the games be a wash out, imagine the pressure on Kohli, Rohit and Gill if the next time they play us is during the WC.
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If such a situation were to occur, where important matches leading up to a World Cup are continuously affected by rain, it would indeed increase the pressure on players and teams. In such a scenario, the expectations and anticipation for the World Cup clash between the teams would likely be very high.
 
And the attention now shifts to...
 
I hope the rain doesn't disrupt the game this time although it seems highly unlikely based on the current weather forecast.
 
I hope they reconsider their decision and move it out of Colombo. It’s quite disappointing they’re wanting to continue super fours there, knowing very well the weather will be at its worst over the next week or so.
 
They should get some overs in. Pak should bowl first if win the toss. The game prob wont be concluded so another chance to knock over Kohli and Sharma for nothing.
 
UAE would have been a better option both from logistics point of view and from weather point of view I guess PCB has no choice it is BCCI that dictates the terms. still hoping for the best
 
Cricket Warrior said:
It seems like that BCCI and ACC are deliberately avoiding matches against Pakistan possibly due to concerns about potential loss against Pakistan and the subsequent reactions from their fans.
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Agreed. The scheduling is very suspicious. Everyone knows this is SL's monsoon season.

If BCCI lost twice to Pakistan on the eve of hosting the WC the Indian crowd would be baying for their blood.

It's possible Jay Shah has considered the best bet for India is to try and get the matches rained off to save face over a potential humiliation on the field.
 
KingKhanWC said:
They should get some overs in. Pak should bowl first if win the toss. The game prob wont be concluded so another chance to knock over Kohli and Sharma for nothing.
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In a rain affected match you should always bowl first. It was a bit disappointing though to see that India got lots of nice net practice while we didn't get to face their bowlers.
 
Next time, Pak should be able bundle out Indians on sub 200 score. Now, They might go with 3 pacers + fast bowling alrounder. Also, it would not surprise me if they go with 2 fast bowling allrounders (less likely, but probable)
 
It's highly improbable that the match will reach its completion due to the excessive precipitation, which is even more intense than in the previous ind vs pak game.
 
Not sure how this frustration for players, some stop start matches help for World Cup prep. Stupid decision on ACC/BCCI’s behalf to continue all remaining matches at a single venue where nearly everything will be rained off. If this does indeed happen, I believe this will be the last ever Asia cup tournament.
 
The grass will be victorious, getting some fantastic photosynthesis in thanks to the monsoon. ACC are nature lovers, that explains this debacle.
 
1694083955827.pngStill raining in Colombo. We might have another washout on sunday.
 
Wonder how the broadcasters feel about all of this. Losing out on 3 IndoPak games, also having to travel from Pakistan to Sri Lanka.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
It seems like that BCCI and ACC are deliberately avoiding matches against Pakistan possibly due to concerns about potential loss against Pakistan and the subsequent reactions from their fans.
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Sad to see this mindset of 'India scared of playing against us' is still doing round in Pakistani circles. It was there in 90s, early 00s...stopped for a bit during 2010s when a win of Pakistan against India was a rare feat and now that arrogance is back again.

No one is avoiding any team or scared of anyone...especially a team like Pakistan who blows hot and cold. Getting Afg all out for 57 and next game Afg batters piled up record opening stand. We are talking about a team about such inconsistency and no one is really avoiding anyone.

Indian top order has not batted in ODIs since March this year and so were rusty in 1st game. The players that are batting continuously like Ishan and Pandya, already shown what they can do. Come 10th and Pak bowlers will be dealt accordingly.

No one knows why games didnt move to Hambantota. Indian media saying PCB was reluctant as they were not considered prior to making that decision. Indian team was also reluctant as there are no proper facilities there. Even SLCB was reluctant as most of the ticket sales and revenues would come from Colombo.

Reason of sticking with Colombo can be any but afraid of facing Pakistan is definitely not one. If BCCI was scared of facing Pakistan due to public fear, why would they put the world cup match in Modi stadium?
 
Rajdeep said:
Sad to see this mindset of 'India scared of playing against us' is still doing round in Pakistani circles. It was there in 90s, early 00s...stopped for a bit during 2010s when a win of Pakistan against India was a rare feat and now that arrogance is back again.

No one is avoiding any team or scared of anyone...especially a team like Pakistan who blows hot and cold. Getting Afg all out for 57 and next game Afg batters piled up record opening stand. We are talking about a team about such inconsistency and no one is really avoiding anyone.

Indian top order has not batted in ODIs since March this year and so were rusty in 1st game. The players that are batting continuously like Ishan and Pandya, already shown what they can do. Come 10th and Pak bowlers will be dealt accordingly.

No one knows why games didnt move to Hambantota. Indian media saying PCB was reluctant as they were not considered prior to making that decision. Indian team was also reluctant as there are no proper facilities there. Even SLCB was reluctant as most of the ticket sales and revenues would come from Colombo.

Reason of sticking with Colombo can be any but afraid of facing Pakistan is definitely not one. If BCCI was scared of facing Pakistan due to public fear, why would they put the world cup match in Modi stadium?
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Agree about the 'scared of facing' stuff but don't pay much attention to it. It is just fans being fans and many Indian fans would be saying the same thing if roles were reversed and many Indians fans say ridiculous things too. It is what all fans do.

Obviously ACC know why games didn't move to Hambantota so not true to say 'nobody' knows but it is difficult to see the sense in the decision. Maybe Indian team need red carpet Buckingham Palace facilities and weren't going to get that there. Otherwise reasons don't make sense.

If it was logistical then they would have just said it was not logistically possible. PCB was in favour and SL will lose more money with rained out games.
 
Rajdeep said:
Sad to see this mindset of 'India scared of playing against us' is still doing round in Pakistani circles. It was there in 90s, early 00s...stopped for a bit during 2010s when a win of Pakistan against India was a rare feat and now that arrogance is back again.

No one is avoiding any team or scared of anyone...especially a team like Pakistan who blows hot and cold. Getting Afg all out for 57 and next game Afg batters piled up record opening stand. We are talking about a team about such inconsistency and no one is really avoiding anyone.

Indian top order has not batted in ODIs since March this year and so were rusty in 1st game. The players that are batting continuously like Ishan and Pandya, already shown what they can do. Come 10th and Pak bowlers will be dealt accordingly.

No one knows why games didnt move to Hambantota. Indian media saying PCB was reluctant as they were not considered prior to making that decision. Indian team was also reluctant as there are no proper facilities there. Even SLCB was reluctant as most of the ticket sales and revenues would come from Colombo.

Reason of sticking with Colombo can be any but afraid of facing Pakistan is definitely not one. If BCCI was scared of facing Pakistan due to public fear, why would they put the world cup match in Modi stadium?
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India were definitely afraid to play Pakistan in the 90's and rightly so. It was day and night between the two sides at the time, not just in ability but also attitude.

India have PTSD from those days. Even Kohli smiling at Pakistan players caused mayhem across a sizeable populace because of the memories.

I don't think it's far fetched to think that India worry about the reaction at home if they start losing to Pakistan. The BCCI have a good thing going on where they can catch multiple cheques without delivering a single trophy. That might change if the public realise that despite all the riches they are still being humiliated by their broke neighbours across the border.
 
If Rain continues to win out, ACC needs to be held liable for the Colombo decision. Matches could have been moved to Hambantota. All non-India matches could have been moved back to Multan and Lahore as both grounds were logistically ready to handle it. I am not sure if there's any kind of revenue loss due to canceled matches but this needs to be laid at ACC's and even (since Jay Shah made the statement) BCCI's feet and payment should be demanded if any revenue is lost due to rained off matches. The excuse of "we couldn't have known" doesn't apply when you made this decision knowing it's monsoon season and the two week forecast showed consistent steady rain day over day.

Jay Shah probably did this to try and deprive Pakistan of Asia Cup Revenue. Make the ACC pay.
 
It all depends on the first 7 overs of Indian batting. If they lose 3 wickets again, it will be 60-40 in favor of Pakistan.

If India does not lose any wickets in the first 7 overs, it will be 70-30 in favor of India.

It all depends on mostly Shaheen and his ability to get Rohit and Kohli out. If he cannot, Pakistan will be chasing leather.
 
Why can't they move to a different city in Srilanka if there is 90% chance of thunderstorms in Colombo on Sunday? It makes no sense when you know a week in advance what is going to happen with weather.

Stupidity of the highest order.
 
Imam-ul-Haq speaking to the PCB after win vs BD:

"We are no longer of the mindset that we have to return to the dressing room as not out, we are trying to play fearless cricket."

"We had many discussions amongst us that we would end the game in the 35th over; In this team, personal milestones do not matter and we want to play like the number one ranked ODI team that we are."

"I could have easily ended up on 90 or 95 not out but the message given to us was to end the game in 35 overs and we gave respect to those instructions."

"We will play with the same mindset against India as we played against Bangladesh; We as batters have to play the ball and our bowlers have to bowl the best against their batters; It doesn't matter who is up against us."

"Yes, they are a quality side, but we are trying to enjoy the game and take each game as it comes; Yes, we are playing against India, but right now we will savour our win against Bangladesh and then worry about what's next."
 
Indian players were forced to train at the Gamini Dissanayake Indoor Cricket Nets, Nondescripts Cricket Club because of heavy rain in Colombo ahead of the Super 4s Asia Cup match against Pakistan.

Virat Kohli, Shubman Gill, and Suryakumar Yadav, among others, were seen practicing in the nets with KL Rahul ahead of the key Super 4s match against Pakistan. Notably, the group match between the two archrivals last week was rained out due to heavy rain before the start of the second innings.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Rain will win.

No chance of any match in Colombo, 95% chance of thunderstorms.

Tomorrow will be the last game of the Asia Cup.
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There is a reserved day for India vs Pakistan match.
Rajdeep said:
Sir there are multiple factors behind it. First, there is no denying that Pakistan bowling is absolutely top bowling side. But bccoz Indian batters don't face them regularly, there is a mystic factor behind it. Even KL Rahul said the same last year after Naseem Shah humiliated him. All they hear throughout the year from media is - Shaheen afridi is coming for you, Naseem Shah and Rauf will knock you etc etc. So that fear factor plays a huge part.

From 2nd match, the equation changes a bit and players play more freely.
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What an excuse lol. It is same for both sides. Even Pakistanis don't get to play against Indian batsmen and bowlers regularly. At least give a logical excuse. :inti
 
Rajdeep said:
Sir there are multiple factors behind it. First, there is no denying that Pakistan bowling is absolutely top bowling side. But bccoz Indian batters don't face them regularly, there is a mystic factor behind it. Even KL Rahul said the same last year after Naseem Shah humiliated him. All they hear throughout the year from media is - Shaheen afridi is coming for you, Naseem Shah and Rauf will knock you etc etc. So that fear factor plays a huge part.

From 2nd match, the equation changes a bit and players play more freely.
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What special kind of bull is that?

When do they hear from their media that Afridi is coming for you? Infact indian media tries hard to not talk about Pakistan players because well they might be boycotted :yk
 
Looks like there will be no winner thanks to the ACC insisting on having the match in Colombo.

ACC needs to give their heads a shake.
 
Saj said:
Looks like there will be no winner thanks to the ACC insisting on having the match in Colombo.

ACC needs to give their heads a shake.
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If all the remaining Super 4 matches get washed out:

Pakistan is through to Final

Bangladesh is out

A toss up between India & SL in NRR where India is ahead now due to 10 wicket victory.

According to weather forecast, no rain predicted on final day.

I think its destined for an India vs Pakistan final, albeit this way

:srini
 
It's been raining every day in Colombo. This is just a waste of time and they know it.
 
Rajdeep said:
If all the remaining Super 4 matches get washed out:

Pakistan is through to Final

Bangladesh is out

A toss up between India & SL in NRR where India is ahead now due to 10 wicket victory.

According to weather forecast, no rain predicted on final day.

I think its destined for an India vs Pakistan final, albeit this way

:srini
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Sri Lanka has 4 points, while India has 3 points, so Sri Lanka should make it this way. Nonetheless in reality, these points won't be considered in case that happens.

As far as I know there will be a coin toss to determine who goes to meet Pakistan in Final.
 
Rajdeep said:
If all the remaining Super 4 matches get washed out:

Pakistan is through to Final

Bangladesh is out

A toss up between India & SL in NRR where India is ahead now due to 10 wicket victory.

According to weather forecast, no rain predicted on final day.

I think its destined for an India vs Pakistan final, albeit this way

:srini
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No Sri Lanka came 1st in their group, and India came 2nd, if it comes down to that Sri Lanka will qualify.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Sri Lanka has 4 points, while India has 3 points, so Sri Lanka should make it this way. Nonetheless in reality, these points won't be considered in case that happens.

As far as I know there will be a coin toss to determine who goes to meet Pakistan in Final.
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There won't be any coin toss, Sri Lanka came 1st in their group, they will qualify.
 
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How is it possible that the weather forecast is getting even worse haha.
According to google weather, there is only 7 aggregate hours of dry weather expected over the next 8 days in Colombo :rolleyes:
 
Colombo ground has already turned into a swimming pool, how can we possibly proceed with a match there?
 
Jasprit Bumrah has rejoined the Indian team after taking a brief break from Asia Cup duties to celebrate the birth of his first child. He arrived in Colombo early on Friday, just in time for India's first Super 4 match against Pakistan on Sunday.
 
MenInG said:
Jasprit Bumrah has rejoined the Indian team after taking a brief break from Asia Cup duties to celebrate the birth of his first child. He arrived in Colombo early on Friday, just in time for India's first Super 4 match against Pakistan on Sunday.
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Might as well have stayed. There won’t be a match.
 
ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TICKET HOLDERS - RESERVE DAY ADDED FOR PAK VS IND!

A reserve day has been incorporated for the Super11 Asia Cup 2023 Super 4’s match between Pakistan and India, scheduled to take place on 10th September 2023 at R. Premadasa International Cricket Stadium in Colombo.

If adverse weather suspends play during the Pakistan vs. India game, the match will continue on 11th September 2023 from the point at which it was suspended.

In such an eventuality, ticket-holders are advised to retain their match tickets, which will remain valid and will be utilized for the reserve day.
 
BouncerGuy said:
ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TICKET HOLDERS - RESERVE DAY ADDED FOR PAK VS IND!

A reserve day has been incorporated for the Super11 Asia Cup 2023 Super 4’s match between Pakistan and India, scheduled to take place on 10th September 2023 at R. Premadasa International Cricket Stadium in Colombo.

If adverse weather suspends play during the Pakistan vs. India game, the match will continue on 11th September 2023 from the point at which it was suspended.

In such an eventuality, ticket-holders are advised to retain their match tickets, which will remain valid and will be utilized for the reserve day.
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It’s slated to be worse on reserve day, in terms of rain, than even on match day.
 
What an absolute joke.

Reserve day for just India-Pakistan? Rest of the matches getting rained out won’t matter?

ACC is so incompetent, this is not even hilarious anymore. It’s just sad. The state of these individuals, trying to do something they are most certainly not cut out for - management
 
Usman Chadda said:
What an absolute joke.

Reserve day for just India-Pakistan? Rest of the matches getting rained out won’t matter?

ACC is so incompetent, this is not even hilarious anymore. It’s just sad. The state of these individuals, trying to do something they are most certainly not cut out for - management
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I think ACC need to stop embarrassing themselves further and declare it will be Ind vs Pak final on 17th Sept.

The weather looks fine on that day and everyone will be happy.

Ind fans want Ind v Pak final

Pak fans want Ind v Pak final

ACC wants Ind v Pak final

Heck even SLCB wants Ind v Pak final keeping revenue in mind

Only BD fans will be unhappy but since they lost the first Super game - chances of them qualifying for finals is less anyway.
 
Rajdeep said:
I think ACC need to stop embarrassing themselves further and declare it will be Ind vs Pak final on 17th Sept.

The weather looks fine on that day and everyone will be happy.

Ind fans want Ind v Pak final

Pak fans want Ind v Pak final

ACC wants Ind v Pak final

Heck even SLCB wants Ind v Pak final keeping revenue in mind

Only BD fans will be unhappy but since they lost the first Super game - chances of them qualifying for finals is less anyway.
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It's an insult to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

I hope it rains on both days, such that we don't even get the toss. This arrogance needs to be given a reality check.
 
BouncerGuy said:
ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TICKET HOLDERS - RESERVE DAY ADDED FOR PAK VS IND!

A reserve day has been incorporated for the Super11 Asia Cup 2023 Super 4’s match between Pakistan and India, scheduled to take place on 10th September 2023 at R. Premadasa International Cricket Stadium in Colombo.

If adverse weather suspends play during the Pakistan vs. India game, the match will continue on 11th September 2023 from the point at which it was suspended.

In such an eventuality, ticket-holders are advised to retain their match tickets, which will remain valid and will be utilized for the reserve day.
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Wow, what a slap in the face for Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

Even school tournaments are better managed than this.
 
The Colombo weather forecast predicts a 70% chance of rain on Sunday morning. While the temperature is expected to fall slightly throughout the day, the likelihood of rain remains high, particularly at the start of the match.

The temperature is expected to drop further, with no sign of clear skies, and the rain is expected to become more intense during the night. Despite a good drainage system at Colombo's R. Premadasa Stadium, the IND vs. PAK Super 4 match could be hampered if heavy and continuous rain falls.


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Pakistan have named their XI

Same XI as the one that faced Bangladesh in Lahore

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Pak have announced the same playing 11 as against Bangladesh..as expected..

It means that Pak have made up their mind regarding Faheem Ashraf as the bowling all rounder, for WC also…..In my opinion, its a very risky option to take Faheem Ashraf to India,, as the bowling all rounder, as on Indian pitches, you would need some pace, not 120s thunder bolts from Faheem
 
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