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Which were the best ever Asian Test teams?

Harsh Thakor

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Whatever the great achievements of Indian cricket in recent times I still maintain that the best ever Asian teams were the Pakistani teams of 1977-79,1987-1992 and 1996-99.India at it's best may have defeated Pakistan but overall it has not had as impressive test record overseas .True Pakistan did not win in Australia but remember the number of times it conquered England on their soil or drew with them in England.Morally it was Pakistan that won the test world championship title in the Carribean in 1988,when dubious umpiring decisions robbed them of a historic series victory.India has never beaten as powerful an English side as Pakistan did in 1987 or 1992 in England nor drawn a series with as good or beaten as strong a side in the Carribaen as Pakistan came so close to in 1988.I agree India drew with a powerful Aussie team down under in 2003-04 but it's bowling attack was not at it's best with Glen Mcgrath absent for 2 tests .In 1976-77 Pakistan drew with Australia at home and bad umpiring cost them a drawn rubber with West Indies.In 1992 and 1996 Pakistan beat strong Englsih teams with contempt and in 1998 drew a series agaisnt a powerful South African side away.Man to man Pakistan of 1999 was arguably even stronger than past top Pakistani teams.



Even at home I give Pakistan the marginal edge,even if India performed best ever by an team at home when beating Australia in 2001 and South Africa in 1996.





India's bowling was at it's best in 2018 in Australia followed by in Australia in 2007-08 or in England in 2014.Overall in terms of team balance India of 2002-2004 was the best ever Indian team.It's batting was very strong in terms of pure class or talent but still I feel the best Pakistani teams had more depth in 1977-79 and 1987-89.In terms of bowling attack even India's best did not match Pakistan in 1996-99 or 1986-88.The likes of Wasim-waqar-Saqlain or Wasim -Imran -Qadir made the Pakistani bowling attack one of the most potent of all time.Still India's batting depth of 1986-89 was in the same league as posessed by any Pakistani batting line up.



No Asian team had the collective middle order bating strength as India in 2003-04 with the likes of Tendulkar,Dravid,Laxman, Ganguly and Sehwag or in 1994-98 with Tendulkar,Azhar,Sidhu,Ganguly and Dravid.





In terms of pure achievement India has not equalled Pakistan's achievements under Mushtaq Muhammad from 1976-79 or under Imran Khan from 1986-89.India won formal world championship status when top sides like Australia or South Africa wee in decline .Pakistan's 2-1 loss in the Carribean in 1976-77morally to me surpassed India at it's best in Australia and Pakistan in 2003-04.



In 1971 India reached status of unofficial test champions when most teams were in state of decline.Nevertheless did posess the most potent spin attack of all time and produced some truly cavalier performances.By a margin of a whisker I rate the Pakistan team of that era ahead led by Inthikab Alam.





If I had a gun on my head I would vote for Pakistan under Mushtaq Muhammad to be the best Asian team of all time.Just a whisker below would be Imran led leam of 1986-90 and a notch below Indian team of 2003-04.Imagine a combination of Majid,Zaheer,Sadiq,Asif,Mushtaq ,Raja and Imran with the likes of Wasim Bari batting last.I would rank this team ahead of Australia led by Greg Chappell later or maybe even South Africa under Grame Smith..The 1987 team blending the classical reverse swing of Imran and Wasim with the magical spin of Qadir.With Wasim and Waqar together .The 1987 -88 Pak team had the likes of Abdul Qadir batting last.In Javed Miandada and Salim Malik it had two of the best batsman ever in a crisis and in Imran it had close to the best ever skipper and all-rounder.Pakistan posessed a more deadly duo than Lillee-Thomson.



India had explosive talent in Zaheer Khan,Ishant Sharma,Jasprit Bhumra,Srinath,Kapil Dev,Bhuvanesh Kumar etc amongst pace bowlers but collectively it could never compare with Pakistan attack at it's best.What gave the bets Pakistani tames the cutting edge was the poise of their bowling attack,which propelled them to many a famous win.No doubt India's bowling attack of modern times is comparable to the best of all.



India never had as many genuine all-rounders as Pakistan in 1997 in the time of Azhar Mehmood.Abdur Razzaq and Wasim Akram.



Even at it's pinnacle India's batting in recent years comprising of the likes of Kohli,Rahane Pujara,Rahul,Pant etc does not match taht of yesteryear's.Infact with the bowlers of today the 1987 Indian team could have given the best Paksiatn teams a run for their money.







My list in order of merit.



1.Pakistan of 1976-79



2.Pakistan 1987-89



3.Pakistan 1996-99



4.India 2003-04



5.Pakistan 1982-83



6.India 2018-2019



7.India 2010-11



8.Pakistan 1971-74



9.India 1971-74



10.India 1986-89
 
The Indian team from 2015 onwards is the greatest Asian Test team of all time.

You have put 1996-99 Pakistan at number 3. They lost 4 home series, and strong teams do not lose series at home.

90s Pakistan as well as Imran’s Pakistan will get hammered by Kohli’s India.

At number two, I would put Ganguly’s India.

Even Inzamam’s Pakistan from 2004-2006 was better than 90’s Pakistan. The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam is the greatest middle-order Pakistan has ever had.
 
The Indian team from 2015 onwards is the greatest Asian Test team of all time.

You have put 1996-99 Pakistan at number 3. They lost 4 home series, and strong teams do not lose series at home.

90s Pakistan as well as Imran’s Pakistan will get hammered by Kohli’s India.

At number two, I would put Ganguly’s India.

Even Inzamam’s Pakistan from 2004-2006 was better than 90’s Pakistan. The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam is the greatest middle-order Pakistan has ever had.

Mushtaq Muhamad 's team?Why not on top?Or Imran's which were unofficial world champions?Remember how well they played against West Indies and Australia
 
The Indian team from 2015 onwards is the greatest Asian Test team of all time.

You have put 1996-99 Pakistan at number 3. They lost 4 home series, and strong teams do not lose series at home.

90s Pakistan as well as Imran’s Pakistan will get hammered by Kohli’s India.

At number two, I would put Ganguly’s India.

Even Inzamam’s Pakistan from 2004-2006 was better than 90’s Pakistan. The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam is the greatest middle-order Pakistan has ever had.

Remember achievements of team led by Mushtaq-drew and almost won against two of the best team s ever.Did Kohli's team perform as consistently abroad?It never won in England or defeated as powerful a team as West Indies of the 1980's.
 
Ganguly's India
Dhoni's India
Kohli's India
Misbah's Pakistan
Miandad's Pakistan
Imran Khan's Pakistan
Jaysuriya's Sri Lanka
Wasim's Pakistan
Mahela's Sri Lanka
 
Ganguly's India
Dhoni's India
Kohli's India
Misbah's Pakistan
Miandad's Pakistan
Imran Khan's Pakistan
Jaysuriya's Sri Lanka
Wasim's Pakistan
Mahela's Sri Lanka

Why Imran's team so low which was unofficially world test champion in 1988?Was not 1977 Pak team worthy of a place which gave the most powerful West Indies and Australian teams a run for their money?
 
Good list Overall. Except I would put Pak under Mushtag Mohammad and Imran Khan at par. India from 2015 onwards is up there as well.
 
Ganguly's India
Dhoni's India
Kohli's India
Misbah's Pakistan
Miandad's Pakistan
Imran Khan's Pakistan
Jaysuriya's Sri Lanka
Wasim's Pakistan
Mahela's Sri Lanka

Nonsense, no way is Misbah's Pakistan is better than Imran or Javed led Pakistani sides.
 
The Indian team from 2015 onwards is the greatest Asian Test team of all time.

You have put 1996-99 Pakistan at number 3. They lost 4 home series, and strong teams do not lose series at home.

90s Pakistan as well as Imran’s Pakistan will get hammered by Kohli’s India.

At number two, I would put Ganguly’s India.

Even Inzamam’s Pakistan from 2004-2006 was better than 90’s Pakistan. The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam is the greatest middle-order Pakistan has ever had.
Nonsense, 90's Pakistan's W/L ratio is 1.53, what is 2000's Pak W/L ratio ? Nobody in their right mind will rate 2000's Pak above 90's Pak.
 
Good list Overall. Except I would put Pak under Mushtag Mohammad and Imran Khan at par. India from 2015 onwards is up there as well.

Thanks,appreciate.What about India in 2003-04 ?Not up there who drew in Australia and won in Pakistan?
 
India's only weakpoint is never winning in SA. And low win ratio in England in the last 20 years.
Else, most Indian teams have always been the #1 in Asia - of course, over the last 50 years only 2 teams were there and in the last 30 years 3 teams have joined. It is not a big list but yes, that is how it is.
 
Kohlis india have struggled in england, new zealand and SA. Until they change that the so called bhangra by certain indian fans needs to be put on hold.
 
Nonsense, 90's Pakistan's W/L ratio is 1.53, what is 2000's Pak W/L ratio ? Nobody in their right mind will rate 2000's Pak above 90's Pak.

90’s Pakistan lost a dozen Test series at home. Strong teams don’t do that. There is one thing common between all great Test teams - they are very hard to beat at home.

However, beating 90’s Pakistan at home was a piece of cake.

Also, I am not talking about the entire 2000 decade. I am only referring to the 2004-06 period under Inzamam-Woolmer.

That was a very efficient Test side compared to 90’s Pakistan. They would beat most of the sides that won in Pakistan in the 90’s.

90’s Pakistan had a good away record but mainly due to bashing hapless English teams and they also used illegal means to doctor the ball.

90’s Pakistan is the most overrate Asian Test side ever. You know you are overrated when mediocre players like Aamer Sohail and Ijaz are fixtures in your top 3.

The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam was much stronger than what Pakistan had in the 90’s. Miandad dragged his career and Malik was in decline and more focused on fixing than performing.

Kamran in 2004-06 was playing at a level that was a notches above Moin and Latif.

Asif was also a better Test bowler than Waqar.

90’s Pakistan basically had Wasim and Anwar who were head and shoulders above what Pakistan had in their positions/roles.

People romanticize 90s Pakistan because of the World Cup win and the Wasim-Waqar partnership. In terms of actual performance, that team was not flash.
 
90’s Pakistan lost a dozen Test series at home. Strong teams don’t do that. There is one thing common between all great Test teams - they are very hard to beat at home.

However, beating 90’s Pakistan at home was a piece of cake.

Also, I am not talking about the entire 2000 decade. I am only referring to the 2004-06 period under Inzamam-Woolmer.

That was a very efficient Test side compared to 90’s Pakistan. They would beat most of the sides that won in Pakistan in the 90’s.

90’s Pakistan had a good away record but mainly due to bashing hapless English teams and they also used illegal means to doctor the ball.

90’s Pakistan is the most overrate Asian Test side ever. You know you are overrated when mediocre players like Aamer Sohail and Ijaz are fixtures in your top 3.

The middle-order of Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam was much stronger than what Pakistan had in the 90’s. Miandad dragged his career and Malik was in decline and more focused on fixing than performing.

Kamran in 2004-06 was playing at a level that was a notches above Moin and Latif.

Asif was also a better Test bowler than Waqar.

90’s Pakistan basically had Wasim and Anwar who were head and shoulders above what Pakistan had in their positions/roles.

People romanticize 90s Pakistan because of the World Cup win and the Wasim-Waqar partnership. In terms of actual performance, that team was not flash.

90's Pakistan won 13 tests outside Asia in a single decade with a W/L ratio of 1.0 . Also won 2 out of 3 matches in India in 1999. Their away record was phenomenal. 2000's Pak in comparison only won 8 tests outside Asia with a W/L ratio of 0.5 .Since I rate away performances more, I will take 90's Pak over 2000's Pak any day of the week.
 
This great indian team lead by kohli has done well in Aus what about rest of SENA?
 
Mushtaq Muhamad 's team?Why not on top?Or Imran's which were unofficial world champions?Remember how well they played against West Indies and Australia

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...am=4;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=team

Is this the performance you are talking about? 8 wins and 7 losses??



Or Pakistan team of 1996-1999 that lost a home test series to Zimbabwe and has W/L of 1.33 only??

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval2=span;team=7;template=results;type=team

Indian team between 2007-10 had W/L of 2.22 with a drawn series in South Africa.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval2=span;team=6;template=results;type=team
 
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...am=4;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=team

Is this the performance you are talking about? 8 wins and 7 losses??



Or Pakistan team of 1996-1999 that lost a home test series to Zimbabwe and has W/L of 1.33 only??

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval2=span;team=7;template=results;type=team

Indian team between 2007-10 had W/L of 2.22 with a drawn series in South Africa.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval2=span;team=6;template=results;type=team

I think Pak team of the late 70's drew 2 series in OZ, won a series in NZ, won a home series 2-0 against India and lost a closely fought series against the then best WI side 1-2 in WI in 1977. Thats what he is talking about.

Anyway I think that Pakistan's greatest side is from 1982-1993, which had a W/L ratio of 2.6, only behind the West Indies in that period.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...1982;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team
 
Recency bias is playing a role in severely under rating the pre90s Pak test teams
 
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