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Who are Misbah-ul-Haq's silent but powerful backers?

Almost.

Misbah is actually (and this should delight [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] ) cricket’s equivalent of Jacob Rees-Mogg.

In a scene full of uneducated village idiots his education makes him look polite, civilised and classy. It makes you over-estimate the man.

But Rees-Mogg is a weirdo who takes his nanny on the campaign trail with him, refuses to eat foreign food or even join his wife and kids when they holiday in Europe.

Misbah is a cricket tragic who can’t live without the game. But as captain he filled the team with his geriatric cronies and delayed the integration of Babar Azam. And he actually doesn’t have the ethics to go with his manners: he shamelessly applied for this job after being on the committee which removed his predecessor.

We concentrate, obviously, on the Conflict of Interest which saw Misbah take this job. But people forget that Mickey Arthur remained supportive of Misbah even when the entire cricket world said that he needed to drop himself in Australia.

But Misbah has now rewarded Arthur by stabbing him in the back to take his job.

I see Misbah as the most dangerous man in the history of Pakistan cricket. And what he has done to Mickey Arthur shows me that he is both cold-blooded and ruthless in terms of what he is prepared to do for his own benefit.

You have read Mickey Arther's book am sure so will have a bias in favour of him but since you have read about his approach to the game, you'd also know that he was never ever going to be successful for Pakistan, he is very very narrow minded and I can't thank Misbah enough for getting rid of him! if Misbah out-foxed everyone to the top, power to him! #Alpha

I don't think you are one of those people but there are certain folk who feel too inferior and insecure which inspires their hatred towards Misbah to the point where they write poems about this / will focus all their energy into it for the next 5 years! I hope you can help them doc!
 
If experience was the be and end all, graduates would never get a job! I can now honestly say, I am the greatest employee of all time in my company's history despite not being "experienced" sometimes the smarter blokes at the top recognise that someone likes myself or Misbah would bring a set of fresh ideas and energy which is not limited to the tried/tested methods or approaches which lack any ounce of adaptability, experience can be a negative to! you're too set in your ways like Mr. Miyagi telling you to wax on wax off! that's what experience brings to the table nothing more! Now that approach has its benefits but if you take risks from time to time a radical approach can be very very fruitful, I know you and Savak don't like Misbah but I think that is primarily because he is an Alpha Male!

Lets cast our minds back to the last Australia tour, when Misbah's lack of cricketing intelligence was being called out by Ian Chappell and the rest of the Channel 9 commentary team. Misbah is by far the worst test captain in tests held in Australia. But somehow he's an "Alpha Male" :))
 
Lets cast our minds back to the last Australia tour, when Misbah's lack of cricketing intelligence was being called out by Ian Chappell and the rest of the Channel 9 commentary team. Misbah is by far the worst test captain in tests held in Australia. But somehow he's an "Alpha Male" :))

Yea lets take Ian Chappell's opinions at face value:)):)):facepalm:
 
Yea lets take Ian Chappell's opinions at face value:)):)):facepalm:

It wasn't just Ian Chappell, everyone including even Waqar Younis were in disgust.

Now I know you take Misbah's opinion at face value, so the only the only delusional fool is yourself.

So what do you make of his inept insight on Shaheen?
 
Lets cast our minds back to the last Australia tour, when Misbah's lack of cricketing intelligence was being called out by Ian Chappell and the rest of the Channel 9 commentary team. Misbah is by far the worst test captain in tests held in Australia. But somehow he's an "Alpha Male" :))

Pakistan never win tests in Australia but sure, let's blame one guy for the entire squad failures.

Just look back at the 2016 tour where Pakistani bowlers got destroyed by Aussies. What is Misbah supposed to do? Teach them to magically start bowling better? Start bowling himself?

Misbah's hate is pretty ridiculous. Pakistan were a laughing stock after the ban and he brought the team back to respectibility with a roster full of mediocrity. He had no fast bowlers to work with other than a Junaid and Irfan for a small brief period of time. The openers were a joke and the roster was full of inconsistent players like Jamshed/Akmal brothers, Shehzad, Hafeez, Afridi.

All he had was spinners in Ajmal/Hafeez/Rehman/Afridi and he made good use of them. It's not like the domestic system was loaded with hidden star players (though Fawad Alam should have been given more of a chance in Tests however). He gave players like Haris/Sarfraz/Yasir a chance who are still playing and gave chances to Sharjeel too but he was a flop too.

It's so easy to mock Misbah and call him tuk tuk but he took over Pakistan's cricket at its lowest point and even managed to get them #1 in Tests. Yes, maybe he played too slow in ODI's but what else can you expect him to do when Pakistan batting is collapsing on a consistent basis and he's getting in there to bat 30/3 every single time.

I am intrigued to see how well Misbah does in this role. I think he can exceed in that because he is a good thinker and tactical. My only concern is that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest and personal bias that can easily creep in if you don't like someone.
 
Pakistan never win tests in Australia but sure, let's blame one guy for the entire squad failures.

Just look back at the 2016 tour where Pakistani bowlers got destroyed by Aussies. What is Misbah supposed to do? Teach them to magically start bowling better? Start bowling himself?

Misbah's hate is pretty ridiculous. Pakistan were a laughing stock after the ban and he brought the team back to respectibility with a roster full of mediocrity. He had no fast bowlers to work with other than a Junaid and Irfan for a small brief period of time. The openers were a joke and the roster was full of inconsistent players like Jamshed/Akmal brothers, Shehzad, Hafeez, Afridi.

All he had was spinners in Ajmal/Hafeez/Rehman/Afridi and he made good use of them. It's not like the domestic system was loaded with hidden star players (though Fawad Alam should have been given more of a chance in Tests however). He gave players like Haris/Sarfraz/Yasir a chance who are still playing and gave chances to Sharjeel too but he was a flop too.

It's so easy to mock Misbah and call him tuk tuk but he took over Pakistan's cricket at its lowest point and even managed to get them #1 in Tests. Yes, maybe he played too slow in ODI's but what else can you expect him to do when Pakistan batting is collapsing on a consistent basis and he's getting in there to bat 30/3 every single time.

I am intrigued to see how well Misbah does in this role. I think he can exceed in that because he is a good thinker and tactical. My only concern is that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest and personal bias that can easily creep in if you don't like someone.

What do you expect me to say with his ultra-defensive leg side fields and bowling Yasir with the new ball, during that tour? I mean did you even watch the series???

I've never seen any touring captain in Australia been ridiculed as much as Misbah was.

Also Misbah picked that "mediocrity", for e.g. typical example of his incompetence was when he selected Imran Farhat in the 2013 CT. Unsurprisingly his team crashed out, having lost every game in the tournament. Now contrast this with Pakistan's current captain, who has the mannerisms and a brain of a street cricketer, yet he still managed to win the 2017 CT.

Again Pakistan found themselves 30/3 because of his preferences for defensive cricketers at the top of the order, whilst other teams were adopting a modern brand of attacking cricket. The fact that it took him until nearly end of the 2015 campaign to work out that Sarfraz should be opening sums up why Pakistan's batting hit rock bottom and inevitably resulted in their downslide to 9th in the rankings.

80% of this forum were against his appointment because they know what the future holds and well versed with how he damaged Pakistan cricket.
 
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What do you expect me to say with his ultra-defensive leg side fields and bowling Yasir with the new ball, during that tour? I mean did you even watch the series???

I've never seen any touring captain in Australia been ridiculed as much as Misbah was.

Also Misbah picked that "mediocrity", for e.g. typical example of his incompetence was when he selected Imran Farhat in the 2013 CT. Unsurprisingly his team crashed out, having lost every game in the tournament. Now contrast this with Pakistan's current captain, who has the mannerisms and a brain of a street cricketer, yet he still managed to win the 2017 CT.

Again Pakistan found themselves 30/3 because of his preferences for defensive cricketers at the top of the order, whilst other teams were adopting a modern brand of attacking cricket. The fact that it took him until nearly end of the 2015 campaign to work out that Sarfraz should be opening sums up why Pakistan's batting hit rock bottom and inevitably resulted in their downslide to 9th in the rankings.

80% of this forum were against his appointment because they know what the future holds and well versed with how he damaged Pakistan cricket.

Yes, I did watch that series. The series where Amir couldn't get a wicket, Rahat sucked and they were relying on mediocre pacers in Wahab and Sohail.

Misbah designs the batting lineup too? So I guess he just gets selectors to get who he wants on the squad, places them where he wants in the lineup while the chief selectors and coach just twindle their thumb. Makes sense.

It's such insane assumptions to think all Misbah wants to do is play defensive cricket and purposely have players who can't bat or can't bat fast so they could get a 200-250 score he is after... because it is all a part of his masterplan.

Players play to their ability and he mostly had players whose ability was simply not that good and didn't have the talent to play long or fast innings. It wasn't because Misbah forced them to play that style. It's utter insanity to think it so.
 
Pakistan never win tests in Australia but sure, let's blame one guy for the entire squad failures.

Just look back at the 2016 tour where Pakistani bowlers got destroyed by Aussies. What is Misbah supposed to do? Teach them to magically start bowling better? Start bowling himself?

I am intrigued to see how well Misbah does in this role. I think he can exceed in that because he is a good thinker and tactical. .
You may have watched this series, but at the risk of sounding obnoxious (sorry!) you don't appear to have understood what you were watching.

Pakistan's problems in Australia in 2016-17 basically were almost entirely the fault of appalling choices made by Misbah-ul-Haq.

I attended the First and Third Tests in their entirety.


Pakistan lost the First Test by 39 runs.

In the First Innings, Mohammad Amir took 4-97 and Wahab Riaz took 4-89. But two problems were already glaringly obvious. The lack of a fourth seamer was exhausting the main bowlers and Misbah's horrible leg-side fields were crippling Yasir Shah. Unfortunately Amir damaged his knee on Day 1, and was semi-fit for the rest of the tour.

Misbah didn't understand that in Australia whether you are a quick or a leggie, you need to bowl on off-stump to an off-side field because batsmen only get out caught by the keeper or slips.

Pakistan then collapsed to 150 all out (Azhar 5, Younis 0, Misbah 4, Shafiq 2) because they hadn't arrived in Australia early enough to acclimatize to the conditions. The itinerary had been agreed by Misbah and Sethi before Mickey Arthur had been appointed.

They then contained Australia to 202-5, and even Rahat Ali bowled decently and took 2-40. They then fell short by 39 runs in the Second Innings because one of the top order batsmen failed for the second time in the match...…….Misbah-ul-Haq.

The Second Test was on a dead wicket at the MCG. Absolutely stone dead.

Pakistan actually declared their First Innings at 443-9, which was a mistake because it was already obvious that their bowlers were going to struggle (Starc had taken 1-125, and Lyon 1-115).

Australia then amassed 624-9 declared because Amir was neither quick enough nor tall enough to extract anything from the dead wicket, while Yasir Shah again bowled that horrid leg-stump line to a leg-side field and took 3-207 at over 5 runs per over.

Yet again, the fault was 99% due to Misbah-ul-Haq. He wasted his leggie bowling a line and to a field which has failed in Australia for 130 years, and it failed again. But he also had to overbowl his quicks because they hadn't taken an all-rounder as fourth seamer, so Amir and Wahab and Sohail got slower and less accurate as the innings dragged on and on.

Pakistan then only had to survive 68 overs on the dead wicket to draw the match. Unfortunately Misbah added a brave 0 to his First Innings 11, and the match was lost.

The Third Test was universally recognized as the worst instance of captaincy ever seen in Australia.

Misbah had worn out Sohail Khan in the previous Test by overbowling him, and Amir was still only half-fit. Wahab Riaz was okay, but Misbah bewilderingly picked the medium-paced trundler Imran Khan to open the bowling with the unfit Amir.

The wicket was pretty dead, but not as bad as the MCG, and by the time Australia declared at 538-8 Misbah had bowled his attack into the ground. Imran was toothless, Amir was bowling on one leg and yet again Yasir Shah bowled to that insane leg-side field and went for 1-167 in just 40 overs.

Pakistan were cooked. They struggled to post 315 all out, even though Younis Khan made 175 not out on a blameless wicket.

But Australia was running out of time to force a result. Pakistan just needed to bowl a probing off-stump line to delay their Second Innings declaration, so that their batsmen would only have to face 70 or so overs on the Fifth Day.

Well, that is how any sane or well-informed captain would have proceeded. But poor Misbah had completely mentally disintegrated by the Third Test, and was now captaining on autopilot as if he was playing a game at home.

It's true that he had overworked his quick bowlers and bowled them into the ground. But Pakistan only needed to keep Australia at the crease for 50-60 overs before they declared, and he just needed to get one last assault out of those bowlers.

The rest is history. To be precise, it is the history of the worst piece of captaincy ever perpetrated on Australian soil.

Yasir Shah had been slaughtered all tour when he bowled to Asian leg-side fields. It had to be hoped that he wouldn't bowl at all, but Mohammad Amir wasn't fit to bowl due to the chronic overwork Misbah had imflicted on him for the last 3 weeks.

Misbah needed Wahab Riaz and Imran Khan to open the bowling and bowl a mile outside off-stump to a packed off-side field. With no one-day wide rule, Pakistan needed to bowl out the remaining 50 overs of the day and restrict Australia to around 200-4, which would require them to then use up 5-6 overs the next day before they could declare.

But Misbah decided to open the bowling with Yasir Shah. To that stupid leg-side field.

Yasir Shah returned figures of 14-0-124-1. When Wahab Riaz was belatedly brought into the attack he bowled 7-0-28-0!

Misbah enabled Australia to race to a declaration at 241-2 in just 32 overs, so that Pakistan had to face 18 overs before the close.

Pakistan lost again, bowled out in 80.2 overs. Which means that if Misbah had bowled the right bowlers to the right field they would have drawn the Third Test and the Second Test.


Pakistan's 2016-17 defeat in Australia turned out to be almost entirely due to the rank incompetence of their geriatric skipper. He picked the wrong bowlers, gave them the wrong fields and he bowled them into the ground.

And he also managed to mess up the batting too. Over 2 years had passed since Babar Azam had scored a century for Pakistan A versus Australia. He was ready for Test cricket, but Misbah's desperation to retain himself, Younis and Hafeez as three geriatric batsmen meant that when Babar Azam toured Australia 26 months later he was still a vulnerable rookie rather than the seasoned international he should have been.
 
Still waiting for [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]'s response and as usual he has ran with his tail between his legs.
I have watched every match under misbah and seen the situations and reasons behind every move, unlike you who jsut tunes into a match and than starts whining when results dont go in favour

But your just gonna be bias, as you are not here with a neutral view, but just here to bash Misbah no matter what.
And now you have even started to get personal with me only because on a disagreement.

So i am not gonna waste my time on you, be sensible and mature and than i might ever reply you.
 
I have watched every match under misbah and seen the situations and reasons behind every move, unlike you who jsut tunes into a match and than starts whining when results dont go in favour

But your just gonna be bias, as you are not here with a neutral view, but just here to bash Misbah no matter what.
And now you have even started to get personal with me only because on a disagreement.

So i am not gonna waste my time on you, be sensible and mature and than i might ever reply you.

As expected, instead of replying to my 5 questions; you have resorted to typical hyperbole and gibberish. Maybe start answering the questions, so that we start taking you more seriously and someone who has more depth to him than just being a Misbah fan.

I have not "bashed" Misbah without reason. I have instead presented you with reasons on why Misbah is not people like you make him out to be.

I have not gotten personal with you, if you cant take a slight amount of heat then i am not sure what to say to you then.
 
Most posters are being ridiculous for bashing Misbah for selections in the past when he's never held a selectors role before
 
ISLU head coach now and ISLU kicked out Dean Jones who helped them win 2 PSL titles and to qualify for the playoffs for the other 2 seasons in order to accomodate this guy.

Would love to know what connections he has
 
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Given that PSL is about money, I would say whoever has him as coach has done so for a reason. PSL teams are not charities.
 
Given that PSL is about money, I would say whoever has him as coach has done so for a reason. PSL teams are not charities.

I would love to know the reasons for a sacking a 2 time successful PSL coach, lets not just blindly assume they had valid reasons in this case. Dean Jones was shocked by the decision
 
I would love to know the reasons for a sacking a 2 time successful PSL coach, lets not just blindly assume they had valid reasons in this case. Dean Jones was shocked by the decision

Actually, PSL franchises would have a lot of incentive to get Misbah now that he is in an all-powerful position as Pakistan coach and selector.

Think of all the pull he will have with Pakistani players, everyone will want to keep him on his good side.

Its a smart move by IU, it the PCB who should be regulating this and have failed completely
 
Actually, PSL franchises would have a lot of incentive to get Misbah now that he is in an all-powerful position as Pakistan coach and selector.

Think of all the pull he will have with Pakistani players, everyone will want to keep him on his good side.

Its a smart move by IU, it the PCB who should be regulating this and have failed completely

Not sure if you have been following media reports but a vast majority of Franchises were opposing Misbah having any role in the PSL due to the conflict of interest.
 
The whole Pakistan media has been really soft on Misbah so far and that is unlikely to change.
 
That’s oddly naive. Imagine Misbah can tell players “play for IU to increase your chances to play for Pakistan.” Or IU could tell players that when signing them outside the draft. They don’t even have to say anything, players will automatically want to play for IU as they’ll believe it’ll enhance their chances of playing for Pakistan.

I was less opposed to it when Mickey was KK coach as he was foreigner who was getting an opportunity to be involved in a domestic tournament. But for a local coach from Mianwali, it’s a massive conflict of interest.
 
The whole Pakistan media has been really soft on Misbah so far and that is unlikely to change.

There is no one to criticize him. Our ex-players bad-mouthed Mickey/foreign options away and now they got what they vouched for. It would be hypocrisy of the highest order to backtrack on their word now.
 
Not sure if you have been following media reports but a vast majority of Franchises were opposing Misbah having any role in the PSL due to the conflict of interest.

That is because they knew if Misbah was allowed to coach, he would go to IU and not to their franchise. If any one of them had a chance to get him, they would absolutely go for it

Think about it: Babar wants to captain all 3 formats, he would want to get closer to Misbah. Hafeez/Malik want to make a comeback, they would want to play for him. Sharjeel, Akmal's, Shehzad - they would all want to do the same. We already know from the past that Misbah's strongly favours selection of his friends / allies

Not just players, other management personnel would want to work with him at IU to try and get a spot as a coach or selector within PCB
 
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From what I was told last week, the PM of Pakistan made it clear that Misbah was to be the new all-powerful supremo and the PCB just created a process as a figleaf to legitimize the decision.

The problem is really this. Misbah may be distantly related to Imran Khan, but his captaincy is all Javed Miandad and not at all Imran.

Imran's kids were generally players like Moin Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed and Zahid Fazal who had been doing really well in Under-19 international cricket. And he had as few players in their thirties as possible - he even sacked his cousin Majid Khan because he was the age that Azhar Ali probably genuinely is now.

It was Javed who would always pick a veteran like Iqbal Qasim if he possibly could.
 
From what I was told last week, the PM of Pakistan made it clear that Misbah was to be the new all-powerful supremo and the PCB just created a process as a figleaf to legitimize the decision.

The problem is really this. Misbah may be distantly related to Imran Khan, but his captaincy is all Javed Miandad and not at all Imran.

Imran's kids were generally players like Moin Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed and Zahid Fazal who had been doing really well in Under-19 international cricket. And he had as few players in their thirties as possible - he even sacked his cousin Majid Khan because he was the age that Azhar Ali probably genuinely is now.

It was Javed who would always pick a veteran like Iqbal Qasim if he possibly could.

The great Imran Khan wanted him to captain Pakistan during 2016 T20 WC.
 
From what I was told last week, the PM of Pakistan made it clear that Misbah was to be the new all-powerful supremo and the PCB just created a process as a figleaf to legitimize the decision.

The problem is really this. Misbah may be distantly related to Imran Khan, but his captaincy is all Javed Miandad and not at all Imran.

Imran's kids were generally players like Moin Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed and Zahid Fazal who had been doing really well in Under-19 international cricket. And he had as few players in their thirties as possible - he even sacked his cousin Majid Khan because he was the age that Azhar Ali probably genuinely is now.

It was Javed who would always pick a veteran like Iqbal Qasim if he possibly could.

Doesn't surprise me. As Mamoon mentioned, the process was designed to eliminate early all of the other prospective applicants.

This is why Deano was the only other man competing for this role.

Also notice how PTI recently blamed Azhar Ali for the poor showing in Australia, but didn't say a word about Misbah.

I'm more than 50% convinced, that the PM was behind Misbah's appointment. If this is the case I retract all my criticism towards Wasim Khan.

For only time will tell, when we have a definitive picture of who's the pulling the strings here.
 
I am not sure about the powerful backers. But the work which PCB should have done, made Misbah to do. After spot fixing scandal, how many years team needs to get on track? 1 year , 2 year. We needed 7 straight years, thanks to poorest planning and execution from PCB, that they thought keeping Misbah will bring them less trouble. PCB was such blind after the spot fixing scandal that like Butt & Asif they were not even accepting something wrong players have done. They were in a denial mode for straight 2 years until Butt & Asif accepted their charges.

Misbah gets more respect from other boards for keeping team disciplined and bringing no trouble. Then why not made him the security advisor or Anti - corruption head of the team for which he is more suited to. People said Younis would have made difference, but Hello! We might have gotten similar results , and who knows Younis might have resigned , withdraw , resigned by now 3 times.

What this team really needed was the tough task master who is after the lazy players every time, and make them run for their $$$. And this was Mickey was doing, with some success. I also advocated that change is needed now in the set up. But philosophy should have remained the same. Have a tough task master to make these lazy guys do things. Our current players are least self motivated. They are happy with mediocre performances, and every one wants to become team captain. Wants to give sensational interviews in media. Leaks news to media so that they can get some $$. Is this not some kind of match fixing that how come media knows every thing almost 99% accurate
 
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